In a message dated 9/6/2008 9:15:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Wrdsrus@aol.com writes: Occassionally, I will purposely misspell our name, or give some other wrong info (such as a typo would create) and then see how much junk mail I get with that info...You would be amazed at the number of places selling your info!!! My son bought me a subscription and instead of using my name he used the name "Sam The Dog". Boy, did our Sam get a lot of mail -- too bad the could not read!!! **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

Just go to Google, enter your phone number and see what happens. Very interesting! J On Sep 6, 2008, at 11:37 AM, warrior rabbit wrote: > If I look up my name at whitepages.com, all my info is listed plus a > map to my house. > > Nekko and Ancestry are right -- it's all public info. > > > However, I thought privacy settings were the norm? I've never > uploaded anything to Ancestry, but I have at GenCircles.com (many > years ago), and even if I didn't use the privacy settings in my > program (Reunion), they employ them anyhow. They won't show the birth > years of living people, for instance. In fact, they don't even use > the first name, calling them 'Living [Surname].' Maybe Ancestry has a > similar feature, but you have to opt in? > > As all the info is publicly available, though, I'm not sure how it > all matters. All the info in my tree on living family members can be > found elsewhere quickly, easily, and for free. > > In fact, I have found a number of 'new' cousins in the last 9 months, > and I contacted them all through whitepages.com. Whitepages.com even > tells you ages, who else is in the household, and other addresses > that person used in the past. (Seems intrusive, but it's helpful if > you want to make sure it's the John Smith who used to live in > Shreveport, for example.) > > On top of regular public info, most people under 40 are on Facebook, > Friendster, MySpace or LinkedIn anyhow -- you can find and contact > anyone, anywhere. > > Unless their number is unlisted or they're off the grid...their info > is out there, and there's no taking it back. > > > On Sep 6, 2008, at 6:22 AM, Rowdy Rebel wrote: > >> They have my name date of birth, address. I asked them to remove my >> dat of >> birth and street address. They refused saying it is PUBLIC >> IFORMATION. >> I hate Ancestry.com. >> ___________________________________ >> >> The Bklyn Info Pages Website: >> www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ >> >> List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com >> >> Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com >> ___________________________________ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > ___________________________________ > > The Bklyn Info Pages Website: > www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ > > List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com > > Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > ___________________________________ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

I did not receive the email of Issue 255 (digest form). Would SKS please forward it to me - ? Thanks so much. Kathleen~CT. **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

It does not matter how safe a person is, the fact is the data is out there on the web not only in family tree's but a ga zillion other places. I have the replies posted and caution those that are unconcerned about website family data. It has to do with identity theft. Do we know those who make false ID's for illegals where they get their data from? Are we informed of the extent of identity theft? Stick your head in the sand, you may get a kick in the backside while your head is down there. It is better to be safe than sorry. ************** Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

That is true...I can pull up property tax information on line here, and can find out an awful lot about people...I did this once after interviewing a housekeeper and found out enough about them to follow my instincts and NOT hire her... There is a LOT of info out there, easily accessible. That is why when filling out forms etc, I always give a false telephone number. Also a lot of times, I'll give an email address that I don't use, so all the junk email fills up a screename mailbox that I don't bother with. (I have 7 screenames via AOL)...Something else interesting is that every time I purchase something on eBay, the scam e-mails and junk e-mails start in... There is no privacy on the internet, so you have to be crafty to keep some things secret...Your local govt is as much to blame. My husband applied for a business license for some ebay sales...and made the mistake of putting down our home telephone as a contact number...within weeks our phone was ringing off the hook... Occassionally, I will purposely misspell our name, or give some other wrong info (such as a typo would create) and then see how much junk mail I get with that info...You would be amazed at the number of places selling your info!!! That is why I have not included any info on my tree that could be helpful in someone actually tracing me. Joyce BROOKLYN NAMES FLEURY HEALD FOSTER BOWERS BAXTER LINDELOF HICKMAN STEPHENSON MORA YOUNG CAMMAROTA RUBINO HICKMAN JOHNSON MULHERN AND MANY MORE Check out my website below for details http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/f/l/e/Joyce-Fleury/index.html In a message dated 9/6/2008 6:52:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Nekkobrij@aol.com writes: It is a matter of public record and easily obtainable. For free a person can find out ages, location, associated family members, what you paid for your house, what your real estate taxes are, county court records, and yadda yadda They have my name date of birth, address. I asked them to remove my dat of birth and street address. They refused saying it is PUBLIC IFORMATION. I hate Ancestry.com. ************** Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) ___________________________________ The Bklyn Info Pages Website: www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com ___________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

I have the replies posted and caution those that are unconcerned about website family data. It has to do with identity theft. Do we know those who make false ID's for illegals where they get their data from? Are we informed of the extent of identity theft? Stick your head in the sand, you may get a kick in the backside while your head is down there. It is better to be safe than sorry.

In the 1920 census, Queens, Assembly district 5: Thomas CURNUCK, head; Louise CURNUCK, wife; Alberta ENDERBY, widow, mother-in-law, 60. >From the 1900 and 1910 censuses I know that Alberta (Abbie) had six children and none living had the name of Louise. Alberta's place of birth is as in previous censuses and her age corresponds with previous censuses. ENDERBY is a relatively uncommon name so I am reasonably sure the this is the same person who I have identified in previous censuses. In New York City in 1920 what other meanings of "mother-in-law" could there have been besides our current meaning: the spouse's mother? How else could Alberta be Thomas CURNUCK's mother-in-law? How else to explain (what I am quite certain to be true) that Alberta ENDERBY is not the mother of Louise CURNUCK? One of Alberta's daughters changed her given name?(the birth years don't work) Incorrect information given the enumerator? The numerator mis-understanding the informant? Just dumb luck? All suggestions gratefully received and thoughtfully considered. Source: Thomas CURNUCK, head, 611 Boyd Avenue, Queens, Brooklyn, New York; NARA Roll T625_1234, page 29A, image 1044. Thanks Terence **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

I have been doing genealogy since 1979 when i lived in Suffolk Co LI and would take trips on the LIRR to NY Public Library. Even on Summer vacations, i would make 1 day to stop in the Library of Congress in D.C. or other big libraries across the US. I would handwrite or type my requests, wait a few weeks for a reply, then mail a check for copies and postage and hope it was the clue or data i had been requiring for documentation. It took a long time to get one clue or reply, yet it was the only way. Those were the days too of having a magazine subscription to Everton's Genealogical Helper as the Mormons Library had the most data of anyone then. They were great too in helping or sending you data, yet it was time consuming. Then in the mid-'90's a home computer and Microsoft Windows became the hot item in our homes and genealogy became a great online hobby. Rootsweb.com was my first favorite FREE genealogical online site, as well as Cyndi'sList.com, and a few others. Ancestry.com had its beginnings early on as well, yet like any 'hog monguls' in our society, they saw a way to make big $$. They started collecting all that was online even taking over data on Rootsweb and others, then charging a pricey Membership fee for us to see a lot of our own data, no less what our cousins had worked hard to find over the years. Yes they had all our data and family trees that some of us innocently had put online at sites we trusted. Trust and respect seemed to go out the window however after the Clinton era. Not much we can do now as our privacy has become public, even down to people paying $ to have Google Earth to see what i was doing in my backyard this a.m.! Scary....as for sure "Big Brother" did come true more than even the book said. I still research online for FREE whenever and wherever i can. I pay when i feel it is necessary, like obtaining copies and vital records, and such. I too can see some online genealogical sites having to charge a small fee as it costs to have online, but the membership fee Ancestry wants is for their own profit and not to help us. Happy Trails to you......

Hi list - I have a few pages from the following microfilm and wanted to post these names / dates & parents - If you find a name that you think is yours then email me directly and I will give you the rest of the information. I hope this may help someone: Register of Births in Town of Newtown, Queens Co. by Wm O'Gorman, Town Clerk Pg 7 - yr 1885 Date Child Mother Father Aug 29 / Lafferty, William / Rosetta Brown / Mervin Lafferty Aug 28 / Ehman, Anna / Anna Burroughs / Charles Ehman Aug 30 / Burger, Carline / Mary Webber (? Wesser) / George Burger Sept 25 / Female Timmes / Louise Timmes / Anton Timmes Aug 14 / Allen, Anna Rose / Moriah Murth / Ebenezer Thomas Allen Sept 26 / Furman, John Rogers / Amy Anderson / John E. Furman Sept 2 / Male Mulvey / Lizzie Sinnot / Gerald Mulvey Aug 25 / Weldon, Mary Margaret / Jane Ferner / John Joseph Weldon Aug 9 / Barder, Andrew / Catharine Lale / John Barder Aug 15 / Pettit, Edgar Francis / Elenor C. Way / Alfred Pettit Aug 18 / Kilroy, John / Janette Elizabeth Reece (?) / Thomas Jefferson Kilroy Aug 26 / Smith, Kate Elizabeth / Ida May Myers / Wells Lott Smith ( this is my line) Aug 19 / Male Buakhardt / Laura Leonard / John Buakhardt Sept 8 / Miskell, John / Christina Earnst / George Miskel Sept 22 / Gough, John / Maggie Maute / John W. Gough Year 1888 Dec 12 / Acckerman, Wilhelm / Caroline Theas / Wilhelm Ackerman Nov 19 / Keebe, John Charles / Margaretha Keader / Conrad Keebe Nov 8 / Schusler, Johann Louise / Karoline Schusler / Bernhardt Schusler Nov 3 / Bischoff , George / Augusta Staffeldt / George Bischoff Jan 4 (must be 1889) Lee, Bertha Earl - 7 yrs / 6 mo / 22 days / "mistake - should be in Reg of Deaths" Dec 26 / Dittus, Josephine Mary / Mary (?) Biend / Charles Dittus Dec 29 / Wilson, Lullie / Lettie Armstrong / Alexander Wilson Dec 24 / Bashe, Hermann / Anna Bergemann / Hermann Bashe Dec 19 / Female Rassmer / Helena Duns / Christian Rassmer Dec 17 / Albresht , Willie / Minia Albrescht / O.W. Dec 7 / Buhler, Leo / Mary Elson / Frank Buhler Dec 12 / Schmidt , Elizabeth / Elizabeth Dascher / Andrew Schmidt Dec 3 / Fuhrman, William / Barbra Schmitt / William Fuhrman Dec 13 / Logan, Stephen / Burns, Catharin / John Logan Dec 23 / Klumpf, Carrie / Matilda Guttenbergh / Henry Klumpf Dec 22 / McGuiness, James / Mary Riley / Joseph McGuiness will send more later.... Kelly Jane O'Hara // OHARA555@aol.com **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

Sometimes I've just wanted to correct a name interpretation/ transcription of a census record (just how they have it in their database, not the actual document, of course), but they don't even offer that option. Even Ellis Island has a 'send us a correction' feature -- I've used it and they do it, even if it takes them months (and it does). They don't guarantee they'll change it, just that they'll look at it and see if you're right and change it if appropriate. That's good enough for me. I know they've made a few changes based on my submissions. Wish Ancestry was as responsive. On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:40 AM, MizScarlettNY@aol.com wrote: > Exact experience I had when some of my family look-ups were"maybes" > to me. > They have it accessible as facts. > Overseeing our paid memberships w/ "Big Brother" attitude. > > > barkie@bellsouth.net writes: > > >> It's also impossible to correct or contact Ancestry. They're too >> big and >> just not interested. > > > > > > ************** > Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, > plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > > (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) > ___________________________________ > > The Bklyn Info Pages Website: > www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ > > List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com > > Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > ___________________________________ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

It is a matter of public record and easily obtainable. For free a person can find out ages, location, associated family members, what you paid for your house, what your real estate taxes are, county court records, and yadda yadda They have my name date of birth, address. I asked them to remove my dat of birth and street address. They refused saying it is PUBLIC IFORMATION. I hate Ancestry.com. ************** Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

They have my name date of birth, address. I asked them to remove my dat of birth and street address. They refused saying it is PUBLIC IFORMATION. I hate Ancestry.com.

If I look up my name at whitepages.com, all my info is listed plus a map to my house. Nekko and Ancestry are right -- it's all public info. However, I thought privacy settings were the norm? I've never uploaded anything to Ancestry, but I have at GenCircles.com (many years ago), and even if I didn't use the privacy settings in my program (Reunion), they employ them anyhow. They won't show the birth years of living people, for instance. In fact, they don't even use the first name, calling them 'Living [Surname].' Maybe Ancestry has a similar feature, but you have to opt in? As all the info is publicly available, though, I'm not sure how it all matters. All the info in my tree on living family members can be found elsewhere quickly, easily, and for free. In fact, I have found a number of 'new' cousins in the last 9 months, and I contacted them all through whitepages.com. Whitepages.com even tells you ages, who else is in the household, and other addresses that person used in the past. (Seems intrusive, but it's helpful if you want to make sure it's the John Smith who used to live in Shreveport, for example.) On top of regular public info, most people under 40 are on Facebook, Friendster, MySpace or LinkedIn anyhow -- you can find and contact anyone, anywhere. Unless their number is unlisted or they're off the grid...their info is out there, and there's no taking it back. On Sep 6, 2008, at 6:22 AM, Rowdy Rebel wrote: > They have my name date of birth, address. I asked them to remove my > dat of > birth and street address. They refused saying it is PUBLIC IFORMATION. > I hate Ancestry.com. > ___________________________________ > > The Bklyn Info Pages Website: > www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ > > List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com > > Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > ___________________________________ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I too have had that problem. I have only submitted my family tree to the Isle of Wight Family Historical Society as I did not want it on the internet/Ancestry. Imagine my surprise when I put the family name in, up popped OneWorldTree and my branch of the Corney family appeared. Including my grandfather and grandmother. How they found and got this information I do not know. They have a death date for Gr GrandUncle that I do not have. They just show a year, no date, place or cemetery. I have been searching for him for 9 years and they have the info, and I don't. Amazing. So strange to do work on family and then have it show up and with possible new information is weird. Pat Corney

And if you go to family tree.com what do you see at the bottom of the page... Ancestry.com http://www.familytree.com/ gave information to a family member (orally) and he is the only one who has it.? He must have added it to my page.? I have not given any information to ancestry.com.? I only use it for research.? I am very angry at this person and am going to cancel my subscription to it.? I have gotten about all I can use from it.?? The only place I have my family tree is at Family Tree.com. Most of my search has been in the Brooklyn area and I have gotten all I can. ************** Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

I gave information to a family member (orally) and he is the only one who has it.? He must have added it to my page.? I have not given any information to ancestry.com.? I only use it for research.? I am very angry at this person and am going to cancel my subscription to it.? I have gotten about all I can use from it.?? The only place I have my family tree is at Family Tree.com. Most of my search has been in the Brooklyn area and I have gotten all I can. Thanks to all who sent me in their experiences..

I have the book, "Tombstones of the Irish Born", Cemetery of The Holy Cross, Flatbush Brooklyn. For more info, please contact me directly at my email addy. Joy Joy Bold

I do not havee ancestry. Perhaps someone who put there tree on ancestry can validate that it is also on rootsweb.. That is the way I understand the system operate. If someone could check data from their tree and see if it on rootsweb that would validate my point in my previous post. ************** Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

The answer is: that no matter where you put your family tree they wind up on three different places. A person can at anytime go to rootsweb and extrapolate all or a portion of a tree one has submitted and if he/ she is so inclined can incorporate this date into his/.her family tree. One must read the fine print before submission of data. And because this happens that is why roots web has some 544 million names on family tree's. It is called extract from another and incorporate the data into mine to raise my bean count... World Connect Family Tree; This database is online at Ancestry.com, Rootsweb.com and Genealogy.com free for all to use. Perhaps I don't understand how uploading your tree to Ancestry works. I have seen another person's tree (which in part is part of mine) added to in error either by someone else or by Ancestry. I am not going to allow my hard work to be corrupted. Perhaps someone can explain this all to me. ************** Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

Perhaps I don't understand how uploading your tree to Ancestry works. I have seen another person's tree (which in part is part of mine) added to in error either by someone else or by Ancestry. I am not going to allow my hard work to be corrupted. Perhaps someone can explain this all to me. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <franksgram@aol.com> To: <rhlnj@aol.com>; <NYBROOKLYN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [BKLYN] Ancestry.com > My tree is on ancestry.com but I had to upload it. > > I don't know how it could get onto any site unless you uploaded it or > someone who had access to your computer uploaded it. > > Did you upload it to any site at all including genealogy.com? > > Did you send your tree to someone who might have uploaded it? > > There is no way it could have appeared that I know of that a tree could > appear.? They can't get into your computer. > > Does anyone else know? > > I have found a great number of relatives by uploading my tree, adding > hundreds of names to my tree. > > Please let me know. > > Carol > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rhlnj@aol.com > To: NYBROOKLYN@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 8:34 pm > Subject: [BKLYN] Ancestry.com > > > > Hi.? > > I have not been into my account for quite a while.? You can imagine the > shock > to see part of my family tree listed under my account name.? I did not > give the > information.? How can I prevent this from happening again.? My > subscription runs > until Jan. and?I probably will not renew. Has this happened to anlyone > else? > > ___________________________________ > > The Bklyn Info Pages Website: > www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ > > List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com > > Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > ___________________________________ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > ___________________________________ > > The Bklyn Info Pages Website: > www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ > > List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com > > Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > ___________________________________ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message