The 1875 NY State Census is one of the current project on FamilySearch Indexing. So an index will be available at some point. Marie Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:01:08 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] Subject: [BKLYN] 1875 State Census Kings Co. To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello List, Well it has finally happened! Familysearch has placed the entire 1875 Kings Co. State Census online. It is not indexed, so I am plodding through it. If I could find a map of Wards for this time period, it would be great! Don't get me wrong, this would not be a full proof solution to finding my elusive family, but what a help it could be. Any ideas on where I can find a map that would tell me Fulton Street's Ward? I am ever grateful to Familysearch for this work! Also...for this list!!!! Bev W

The Rootsweb Surname Message Boards now allow uploads of files to postings too, and I add the certificates there, including those I send for, that turn out not to be my people, so that others can benefit from what I paid for them. In almost all cases the Rootsweb Surname Message boards aren't location specific. It does however, allow people who may not have a location, find information by surname. Judy H -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:37 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [BKLYN] Add MARRIAGE certificates & IRISH SURNAMES! Hey Everyone in the Metro NYC area! There is an easy, ongoing online site to enter your familiy's Marriage Certificate details, even if you're not prepared to post a gedcom of your tree yet. This comprehensive and non-denominational site is the Brooklyn list's homepage at http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ The list administrator is Nancy LUTZ = [email protected] Please cut and paste the following, and email to Nancy with title "MARRIAGE" AS THEY APPEAR ON MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE. GROOM (Surname first): His Parents' Names: BRIDE (Surname first): Her Parents' Names: County, Date & Certificate # of Marriage Names of WITNESSES Your email address, if you'd like to be contacted by searchers: For those with IRISH Surnames in New York State, check out the homepage for NY-IRISH at http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/#surnames You can view the Surname List, browse Irish details and send your surname, its location, and time frame to Pat CONNORS at [email protected] Title your submissions "ADD SURNAME." Again, include your e-address if you'd like to be found by other searchers. The more often we share and utilize these resources, the more lilkely we are to find living descendants. Yaaaaaaaaaa ha! Please forward to NYC-L, Suffolk-Westchester-Rockland-Putam County lists. Barb Metro NYC Researcher (NYC, Westchester, Putnam) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Give me your tired, your poor — your Internet-connected masses yearning to see. Lady Liberty is getting high-tech gifts for her 125th birthday: webcams on her torch that will let viewers gaze out at New York Harbor and read the tablet in her hands or see visitors on the grounds of the island below in real time. The five torch cams are to be switched on Friday during a ceremony to commemorate the dedication of the Statue of Liberty on Oct. 28, 1886. For more info: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/10/23/torch-cams-to-give-masses-views-from- lady-liberty/ If the above URL breaks-up, then try: http://tinyurl.com/3lzl9mh I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY

Bev,     You can try the Brooklyn Genealogy Homepage (Enumerations and Wards):   http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Ward/1875.ed.html   This should at least get you in the right location.  Happy hunting. Catherine --- On Sun, 10/23/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [BKLYN] 1875 State Census Kings Co. To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, October 23, 2011, 7:01 PM Hello List, Well it has finally happened!  Familysearch has placed the entire 1875 Kings Co. State Census online.  It is not indexed, so I am plodding through it.  If I could find a map of Wards for this time period, it would be great!  Don't get me wrong, this would not be a full proof solution to finding my elusive family, but what a help it could be.  Any ideas on where I can find a map that would tell me Fulton Street's Ward? I am ever grateful to Familysearch for this work!  Also...for this list!!!! Bev W ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List, Well it has finally happened! Familysearch has placed the entire 1875 Kings Co. State Census online. It is not indexed, so I am plodding through it. If I could find a map of Wards for this time period, it would be great! Don't get me wrong, this would not be a full proof solution to finding my elusive family, but what a help it could be. Any ideas on where I can find a map that would tell me Fulton Street's Ward? I am ever grateful to Familysearch for this work! Also...for this list!!!! Bev W

Hey Everyone in the Metro NYC area! There is an easy, ongoing online site to enter your familiy's Marriage Certificate details, even if you're not prepared to post a gedcom of your tree yet. This comprehensive and non-denominational site is the Brooklyn list's homepage at http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ The list administrator is Nancy LUTZ = [email protected] Please cut and paste the following, and email to Nancy with title "MARRIAGE" AS THEY APPEAR ON MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE. GROOM (Surname first): His Parents' Names: BRIDE (Surname first): Her Parents' Names: County, Date & Certificate # of Marriage Names of WITNESSES Your email address, if you'd like to be contacted by searchers: For those with IRISH Surnames in New York State, check out the homepage for NY-IRISH at http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/#surnames You can view the Surname List, browse Irish details and send your surname, its location, and time frame to Pat CONNORS at [email protected] Title your submissions "ADD SURNAME." Again, include your e-address if you'd like to be found by other searchers. The more often we share and utilize these resources, the more lilkely we are to find living descendants. Yaaaaaaaaaa ha! Please forward to NYC-L, Suffolk-Westchester-Rockland-Putam County lists. Barb Metro NYC Researcher (NYC, Westchester, Putnam)

Sad, for sure. Sad regarding the health issues for the administrator of the site, and really too bad that the site will cease to exist due to computer problems. Perhaps it could continue with the help of an interim administrator? Let's hope so. I was assisted not so long ago by a volunteer who obtained an obituary for me that I had searched for for about 6 yrs. That one article opened up a "wall" and I am now in touch with a cousin whose family had been "lost" to us for over 30 years. His father died when he was a child of 8, and as a result, had NO family info for this side of the family. He is very grateful to have been contacted by us and to now have access to all of the family records and info that he had been wishing for. I hope that the administrators health will improve. All the best to you. And thanks for having kept the site up for as long as you have. Sheila upstate NY

I am wondering if anyone has any idea of what happened to the Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness web site. I have used this site and volunteered on this site for many years and for the last week or so have not been able to connect. John McGreal Beaver, PA

The below notice was posted into another group I belong to. This is so sad. I am a RAOGK volunteer and did not get a notice sent to me. RAOGK helped so many and networked family history researchers so well. This is a shame. Elaine Long Island, New York ******* Random Acts of Genealogy Kindness (RAOGK) RAOGK has been around with our volunteers helping other genealogists get copies of documents required to prove your lineage back to Adam and Eve (giggle). Picture of your ancestors' tombstones were also high on the lists of requests. I hope everyone got as much service as we were able to give. Our heart is saddened that we will be offline for quite awhile. Between computer problems (harddrive turning to toast) and the health of the administrator very questionable ... RAOGK, after 11 years, will cease to exist for awhile. Bridgett Schneider RAOGK Administrator -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:06 AM To: nybrooklyn Subject: [BKLYN] Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness I am wondering if anyone has any idea of what happened to the Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness web site. I have used this site and volunteered on this site for many years and for the last week or so have not been able to connect. John McGreal Beaver, PA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Elaine,   All the honor goes to Jim.  He was the one who figured this out.  I would never have puzzled out the word Lutheran in a million years.   Barbara From: Elaine LaGreca <[email protected]> To: 'Barbara Kiersh' <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:12 PM Subject: RE: [BKLYN] cemetery is lutheran all faiths Barbara and Jim I am not sure if I missed an email but I might have. How did you and Jim come to realize the cemetery was All Faiths? BTW I have dealt with this cemetery in the past and they are one of the most helpful. Elaine Long Island, New York -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barbara Kiersh Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:04 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [BKLYN] cemetery is lutheran all faiths A big thank you to Jim and everyone for their suggestions.  Not only is my great grandmother Jeanetta Lazrus buried in Lutheran All Faiths Cemetery but she's also buried with her grandson Rudolph Kern.  He was a stillborn and died the same year as Jeanetta - 1887.  The woman in the cemetery office was very nice and very helpful. I didn't know anything about this child.  Her daughter Charlotte married Rudolph R. Kern and they had a son Rudolph Jr. born in 1888.  I thought Rudolph Jr. was their first child.  I think it's a little creepy to give a new baby the same name as a previous still born baby.  But I guess it was the custom.   Barbara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]m with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Genealogy Friends of New York.. I have been looking for ANY clues on my wife's CUTLER family of Westchester for more than two years. I have been all over Westchester County, including the Westchester County Archives looking for them. I had a lead that there were some Cutlers in Peekskill in 1790. So, the other day, in an act of desperation, I visited the Peekskill Library in hopes of finding a remote clue. I found nothing. Then I went to the nearby Shrub Oak Library . At quick glance, it pretty much looked like the the same books as everywhere else. So I asked the Librarian whether she might have any ideas of where else I could look. She brought me over to the same books I had just been looking at. Before I could say anything, she began pulling out books and looking for the surname in the indexes. She pulled out several books that I had looked through before, but I didn't have the heart to tell her that I had already seen them. The third or fourth book she pulled out was the well known "Genealogical and family history of southern New York and the Hudson River Valley", volume III. Much to my surprise, she said she found Cutlers listed in it. I thought she had to be mistaken as this was one of the very first books I looked through at the Westchester County Archives and found absolutely nothing. So she turned me loose to look through the books she pulled out. Many of them, I just closed and put back since I had already looked through them. The others provided me little useful information. I saved the book mentioned above for last. I don't know why. But much to my surprise... THERE IS WAS..... A fairly detailed genealogy of the family I was looking for. As it turns out, there are at least TWO versions of this book. The one in the Shrub Oak Library was published in 1913. The second one was compiled under the editorial supervision of Cuyler Reynolds and published in 1914. For some reason, Mr Reynolds decided to completely pull the Cutler genealogy from the book. so, BEWARE! I am telling you this because he may have done the same for other surnames. I hope this story helps someone else. Never give up! Philip L. Hayes http://www.hayesfamily.us Monroe, CT USA "Genealogy is where you confuse the dead and irritate the living." Researching: CT: Yerks, Condos, Smith NY: Cutler, Tierney, Lewis, Beattie, Yerks, Hone and Hanley NH: Sheehan, Hayes, Kelty IA: Smith Wales: Lewis Scotland: Beattie Ireland: Hayes. Roach (Roche), Sheehan, Tierney, Kelty and Hanley

Barbara and Jim I am not sure if I missed an email but I might have. How did you and Jim come to realize the cemetery was All Faiths? BTW I have dealt with this cemetery in the past and they are one of the most helpful. Elaine Long Island, New York -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barbara Kiersh Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:04 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [BKLYN] cemetery is lutheran all faiths A big thank you to Jim and everyone for their suggestions.  Not only is my great grandmother Jeanetta Lazrus buried in Lutheran All Faiths Cemetery but she's also buried with her grandson Rudolph Kern.  He was a stillborn and died the same year as Jeanetta - 1887.  The woman in the cemetery office was very nice and very helpful. I didn't know anything about this child.  Her daughter Charlotte married Rudolph R. Kern and they had a son Rudolph Jr. born in 1888.  I thought Rudolph Jr. was their first child.  I think it's a little creepy to give a new baby the same name as a previous still born baby.  But I guess it was the custom.   Barbara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

CONGRATULATIONS, Barbara!!! I'm so happy to have been able to help you - you're very welcome! Jim Barbara Kiersh wrote: > A big thank you to Jim and everyone for their suggestions. Not only is my great grandmother Jeanetta Lazrus buried in Lutheran All Faiths Cemetery but she's also buried with her grandson Rudolph Kern. He was a stillborn and died the same year as Jeanetta - 1887. The woman in the cemetery office was very nice and very helpful. I didn't know anything about this child. Her daughter Charlotte married Rudolph R. Kern and they had a son Rudolph Jr. born in 1888. I thought Rudolph Jr. was their first child. I think it's a little creepy to give a new baby the same name as a previous still born baby. But I guess it was the custom. > > Barbara > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

A big thank you to Jim and everyone for their suggestions.  Not only is my great grandmother Jeanetta Lazrus buried in Lutheran All Faiths Cemetery but she's also buried with her grandson Rudolph Kern.  He was a stillborn and died the same year as Jeanetta - 1887.  The woman in the cemetery office was very nice and very helpful. I didn't know anything about this child.  Her daughter Charlotte married Rudolph R. Kern and they had a son Rudolph Jr. born in 1888.  I thought Rudolph Jr. was their first child.  I think it's a little creepy to give a new baby the same name as a previous still born baby.  But I guess it was the custom.   Barbara

Walter, your information is always useful and most definitely interesting. Thank you so much for all you share. Wish I could be there to go to this exhibit. On Oct 17, 2011, at 7:48 PM, [email protected] wrote: > I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting.

Could it possibly be LUTHERAN? Jim Barbara wrote: > I just got a coroners report for, I'm positive, my great grandmother. > It's a report from 1887. All information on the report, jibes with her > year of birth (which I only know approximately), place of birth and how > long she has lived in America. The question is the cemetery. The > handwriting is a bit florid but still quite readable. Except for the > cemetery. I've never heard of this one. It could be Hittman Cemetery, > Fittman Cemetery, can't think of anything else. There's no clue as to > where the cemetery may be. Her place of death was 323 W. 53rd St., so > she could be in Manhattan, Bronx, maybe Brooklyn? Maybe it's Hithman or > Fithman. Still makes no sense. I've searched the web and no such > place. Any ideas? > > Barbara Kiersh > Jacksonville, FL > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Barbara, Why not give us her name and date ofdeath and we'll help you search.! Dolores In a message dated 10/17/2011 5:14:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I just got a coroners report for, I'm positive, my great grandmother. It's a report from 1887. All information on the report, jibes with her year of birth (which I only know approximately), place of birth and how long she has lived in America. The question is the cemetery. The handwriting is a bit florid but still quite readable. Except for the cemetery. I've never heard of this one. It could be Hittman Cemetery, Fittman Cemetery, can't think of anything else. There's no clue as to where the cemetery may be. Her place of death was 323 W. 53rd St., so she could be in Manhattan, Bronx, maybe Brooklyn? Maybe it's Hithman or Fithman. Still makes no sense. I've searched the web and no such place. Any ideas? Barbara Kiersh Jacksonville, FL ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try this link. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nymanhat/cemeteries.htm Barb =========== Time, [email protected] writes: > It could be Hittman Cemetery, > Fittman Cemetery, can't think of anything else. There's no clue as to > where the cemetery may be. Her place of death was 323 W. 53rd St., so > she could be in Manhattan, Bronx, maybe Brooklyn?

Hi Theresa,   Wow, great suggestions for searching.  I'm going to give this my best shot.   Barbara From: Gail Jorgensen <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc: Barbara <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [BKLYN] what cemetery could this be? GREAT ideas on ways to search. I am pretty good on searching but some you suggested I never thought of! Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ On Oct 17, 2011, at 15:00, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >  It could be Hittman Cemetery, >> Fittman Cemetery, can't think of anything else.  There's no clue as to >> where the cemetery may be.  Her place of death was 323 W. 53rd St., so >> she could be in Manhattan, Bronx, maybe Brooklyn?  Maybe it's Hithman or >> Fithman.  Still makes no sense.  I've searched the web and no such >> place.  Any ideas? >> > > > My idea is to go to http://Fulton history.org and do a Boolean search for > several different things - their faq page gives excellent instructions and > one or two little points may be specific to the site, so it is worth > reading.  What would I search? > > 1. The address she died at.  I found at least one obit this way, and lots > of other interesting info about my families as well. > > 2. Pick a Manhattan newspaper, put in the date of death, or year of death, > and search on "Cemetery" or any other synonyms for the times.  An ad may > reveal possible suspects. > > 3. If no result, repeat #2 with other Manhattan papers.  They have  few for > that time period. > > 4. Do a Boolean search on all variations of her name and see if you get > anything.  ALSO search for the names of likely survivors - various > children, etc.  Again, you can limit these to one paper and time frame at a > time, or just search the site in general. > > 5.  If I am remembering correctly, and I could be wrong, Grandma might be > in a Jewish Cemetery?  There is probably some group that keeps track of > what these were at different time periods, although I would not know what > that group is, although in a pinch you might call Riverside Memorial > Chapels.  (I think that's the name, but I am not sure - they advertize as > having been around a long time and they may have lists of what places were > around. > > 6. I had one death certificate where the names for the deceased person's > mother and father were the last name of the friend who was possibly the one > who brought her to the hospital.  I have another one where the deceased's > mother' s name was actually the deceased's name, or something like that. > So, is it possible that the cem. was actually the doctor or whoever's name? > Is there anything else that might give you a clue? (Probably not, you're > very good at this and would probably have noticed, but you asked, so...) > > Wish you great success! > > Theresa > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barb,   Thanks for the link.  I found that before posting and nothing on there remotely resembles the cemetery name.  So I'm really stumped.  I'm going to scan the report and see if I can enlarge the place of burial for everyone to take their best guess.   Barbara From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [BKLYN] what cemetery could this be? Try this link. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nymanhat/cemeteries.htm Barb =========== Time, [email protected] writes: >  It could be Hittman Cemetery, > Fittman Cemetery, can't think of anything else.  There's no clue as to > where the cemetery may be.  Her place of death was 323 W. 53rd St., so > she could be in Manhattan, Bronx, maybe Brooklyn? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message