This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JRB.2ACE/1583.2.1.1 Message Board Post: The LDS has the indexes for 1951 so a quick check of that will give you the death certificate number. Once you have that, the DOH is a little more likely to release the certificate when the request has the number with it. Also, a copy of your parent's marriage certificate and a copy of yours will prove direct descendency as long as both have the names of parents on them. Tony