Jim: Since the document is relatively short, here is the key content... Perry 1. Patrick-1 O'Connor was born, probably in County Cork, Ireland. He was married, probably in County Cork, Ireland to Catherine Gorman. What little is known of Patrick and Catherine (Gorman) O'Connor with certainty comes from records pertaining to their daughter, Mary Catherine (O'Connor) Mahoney. According to one of Mary's grandsons, Jack R.-3 Mahoney (John W.-2, Daniel-1), Mary's husband, Daniel Mahoney, knew her parents and brothers in Ireland, yet the two of them had never met, despite the fact that the Mahoney and O'Connor farms were reportedly next to each other. If there is any truth in this tale, it follows that Patrick and Catherine were natives of County Cork, like Daniel. In the 1905 New York State Census, Mary Catherine indicated that she had been a resident of the United States for 38 years. The O'Connors must have immigrated about 1867 and they had certainly arrived in Hornell, Steuben County, New York by 19 March 1868: 19 March 1868: In matrimonium conjunctis Danielene filium Michaelis Mahony + Margarita Carroll et Marium filiane Patrick Connors + Catherina Gorman -- Testes evant Dionysius Gorman + Eliza Regan (Liber Matrimonorium; Missionis circa Hornell's-Villam) The Liber Matrimonorium is the earliest collection of marriage records for the Roman Catholic congregation that became St. Ann's Church of Hornell, Steuben County, New York. An approximate translation of the original latin text is: 19 March 1868: In matrimony were joined Daniel, son of Michael Mahony and Margaret Carroll, and Mary, daughter of Patrick Connors and Catherine Gorman; witnessed by Dennis Gorman and Eliza[beth] Regan. Dennis Gorman was probably a brother or nephew of Catherine (Gorman) O'Connor. On 9 June 1870, Elizabeth Gorman was born to "Dionysios Gorman et Ellena Regan"; "Timotheo Collopy et Elizabeth Regan" served as baptismal sponsors. Mrs. Daniel Mahoney [Mary Catherine (O'Connor) Mahoney]... was born in Ireland, and came to this country when a young girl, with her parents, settling in this city. She leaves to mourn her loss... two brothers, Patrick and Michael O'Connor of this city... (Evening Tribune-Times [Hornell, NY; 5 September 1915]) On 23 May 1886, a "Patrick O'Connors" of Ireland and Hornellsville filed a Declaration of Alien status (Index of Naturalizations and Declarations of Aliens, Declarations Vol. 2 [1862-1891], 157) It was thought for a time that the following records from St. Ann's Church pertained to Patrick and Catherine (Gorman) O'Connor. A Patrick O'Connor was born, probably in County Cork, Ireland in 1827 (tombstone) and died in Hornell, Steuben County, New York, about 20 September 1877 when "Patrick Connors" purchased a burial lot 3 in Section 39 North of St. Ann's Cemetery in Hornell (Names of Lot Owners for St. Ann's Cemetery, St. Ann's Church, Hornell, New York); buried St. Ann's Cemetery, Hornell, New York in 1877 as "Patrick O'Conner" (tombstone). A Catherine (_____) O'Connor was born about 1829 and died in Hornell, New York on 2 February 1884 "sepelive corpus viduae Catherinae O Connor 55 annos fuit" [buried widow Catherine O'Connor age 55] (Liber Mortuornum Hornelsville, St. Ann's Church, Hornell, New York). Based on the dates cited above, the Patrick and Catherine (_____) O'Connor identified in the records of St. Ann's Church must be identical with the Patrick O'Connor who died intestate in Hornellsville on 29 September 1877 leaving a widow Catharine and children John, Mary, Bridget, James, Catherine, Ellen and William (Steuben County Records, A-8049). From Mary Catherine (O'Connor) Mahoney's obituary, we know that she had brothers named Patrick and Michael. Details on Patrick and Catherine (Gorman) O'Connor continue to elude us. In the records of St. Ann's Church, there are several men named Michael O'Conner; the eldest one was born in 1813 and died in 1870. Patrick named one of his sons Michael; perhaps some of these other O'Conners named Michael were kinsmen of Patrick's. However, the surname is far too common to yield any credence to this theory beyond mere speculation. Children, probably all born in County Cork, Ireland, birth order uncertain: * i. Mary Catherine, b. about 1845; d. in Hornell, NY 5 Sep 1915; bur. in St. Ann's Cemetery; m. St. Ann's Church Hornell, NY on 19 March 1868 to Daniel-1 Mahoney (Michael-A), b. in County Cork, Ireland about 1839, d. in Hornell, 11 Dec 1913, bur. in St. Ann's Cemetery, son of Michael-A and Margaret (Carroll) Mahoney; direct ancestors of the compiler; see Daniel Mahoney of Hornell, Steuben County, New York for more information. ii. Patrick-2, d. after 5 Sep 1915; perhaps the same Patrick O'Connor who was a boiler-maker and resided at 58 River Street in Hornell in 1891 (Directory of Steuben Co., NY); resided in Hornell in 1915. iii. Michael, d. after 5 Sep 1915; perhaps the Michael F. O'Connor who was a machinist and boarded at 9 Pardee St. in Hornell in 1891 (Directory of Steuben Co., NY); resided in Hornell in 1915. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Hartigan [mailto:jhartig1@twcny.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:59 PM To: perry@streeter.com; NYALLEGA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYAllega] Re: O'Connor - Wellsville Perry: Do you have any dates to go with your request? Thanks, Jim Hartigan ----- Original Message ----- From: <perry@streeter.com> To: <NYALLEGA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: [NYAllega] Re: O'Connor - Wellsville > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: O'CONNOR > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BUB.2ACI/2097.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Jim: > > My great-great-great-grandfather, Patrick O'CONNOR, resided across the Allegany-Steuben County line in Hornell. If your time and interest permit, please review the O'CONNOR document at www.perry.streeter.com for any potential matches. > > Thanks, > > Perry --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Information Boulevard's Virus Scanning]
Hi Perry: I like the way you have written your family history. The curse of the common Irish surname can be overcome, if one leaves "no stone unturned". I assume you have checked land & mortgage, probate, military, tax, voter and obscure records held by various societies & Assoc. I assumed you have searched all the censuses avail. 15 pages before & after where you found your folks. I assume you have used a wider net to catch collateral lines to help you unravel your direct lines. I assume you have used the greatest asset of the Familysearch.org, the Family History Library Catalog. I assume you have good American & Irish genealogy references. Please ask ques., I know how tough this research can be even with a much less common surname like Hartigan. Jim Hartigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Perry Streeter" <perry@streeter.com> To: "Jim Hartigan" <jhartig1@twcny.rr.com>; <NYALLEGA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:29 PM Subject: Re: O'Connor - Wellsville > Jim: > > Since the document is relatively short, here is the key content... > > Perry > > 1. Patrick-1 O'Connor was born, probably in County Cork, Ireland. > He was married, probably in County Cork, Ireland to Catherine > Gorman. What little is known of Patrick and Catherine (Gorman) > O'Connor with certainty comes from records pertaining to their > daughter, Mary Catherine (O'Connor) Mahoney. According to one of > Mary's grandsons, Jack R.-3 Mahoney (John W.-2, Daniel-1), Mary's > husband, Daniel Mahoney, knew her parents and brothers in Ireland, > yet the two of them had never met, despite the fact that the > Mahoney and O'Connor farms were reportedly next to each other. If > there is any truth in this tale, it follows that Patrick and > Catherine were natives of County Cork, like Daniel. > In the 1905 New York State Census, Mary Catherine indicated > that she had been a resident of the United States for 38 years. > The O'Connors must have immigrated about 1867 and they had > certainly arrived in Hornell, Steuben County, New York by 19 March > 1868: > > 19 March 1868: In matrimonium conjunctis Danielene > filium Michaelis Mahony + Margarita Carroll et Marium > filiane Patrick Connors + Catherina Gorman -- Testes > evant Dionysius Gorman + Eliza Regan (Liber > Matrimonorium; Missionis circa Hornell's-Villam) > > The Liber Matrimonorium is the earliest collection of marriage > records for the Roman Catholic congregation that became St. Ann's > Church of Hornell, Steuben County, New York. An approximate > translation of the original latin text is: > > 19 March 1868: In matrimony were joined Daniel, son of > Michael Mahony and Margaret Carroll, and Mary, daughter > of Patrick Connors and Catherine Gorman; witnessed by > Dennis Gorman and Eliza[beth] Regan. > > Dennis Gorman was probably a brother or nephew of Catherine > (Gorman) O'Connor. On 9 June 1870, Elizabeth Gorman was born to > "Dionysios Gorman et Ellena Regan"; "Timotheo Collopy et Elizabeth > Regan" served as baptismal sponsors. > > Mrs. Daniel Mahoney [Mary Catherine (O'Connor) > Mahoney]... was born in Ireland, and came to this country > when a young girl, with her parents, settling in this > city. She leaves to mourn her loss... two brothers, > Patrick and Michael O'Connor of this city... (Evening > Tribune-Times [Hornell, NY; 5 September 1915]) > > On 23 May 1886, a "Patrick O'Connors" of Ireland and > Hornellsville filed a Declaration of Alien status (Index of > Naturalizations and Declarations of Aliens, Declarations Vol. 2 > [1862-1891], 157) > It was thought for a time that the following records from St. > Ann's Church pertained to Patrick and Catherine (Gorman) O'Connor. > A Patrick O'Connor was born, probably in County Cork, Ireland in > 1827 (tombstone) and died in Hornell, Steuben County, New York, > about 20 September 1877 when "Patrick Connors" purchased a burial > lot 3 in Section 39 North of St. Ann's Cemetery in Hornell (Names > of Lot Owners for St. Ann's Cemetery, St. Ann's Church, Hornell, > New York); buried St. Ann's Cemetery, Hornell, New York in 1877 as > "Patrick O'Conner" (tombstone). A Catherine (_____) O'Connor was > born about 1829 and died in Hornell, New York on 2 February 1884 > "sepelive corpus viduae Catherinae O Connor 55 annos fuit" [buried > widow Catherine O'Connor age 55] (Liber Mortuornum Hornelsville, > St. Ann's Church, Hornell, New York). > Based on the dates cited above, the Patrick and Catherine > (_____) O'Connor identified in the records of St. Ann's Church must > be identical with the Patrick O'Connor who died intestate in > Hornellsville on 29 September 1877 leaving a widow Catharine and > children John, Mary, Bridget, James, Catherine, Ellen and William > (Steuben County Records, A-8049). From Mary Catherine (O'Connor) > Mahoney's obituary, we know that she had brothers named Patrick and > Michael. Details on Patrick and Catherine (Gorman) O'Connor > continue to elude us. > In the records of St. Ann's Church, there are several men > named Michael O'Conner; the eldest one was born in 1813 and died in > 1870. Patrick named one of his sons Michael; perhaps some of these > other O'Conners named Michael were kinsmen of Patrick's. However, > the surname is far too common to yield any credence to this theory > beyond mere speculation. > Children, probably all born in County Cork, Ireland, birth > order uncertain: > > * i. Mary Catherine, b. about 1845; d. in Hornell, NY 5 Sep > 1915; bur. in St. Ann's Cemetery; m. St. Ann's > Church Hornell, NY on 19 March 1868 to Daniel-1 > Mahoney (Michael-A), b. in County Cork, Ireland > about 1839, d. in Hornell, 11 Dec 1913, bur. in St. > Ann's Cemetery, son of Michael-A and Margaret > (Carroll) Mahoney; direct ancestors of the > compiler; see Daniel Mahoney of Hornell, Steuben > County, New York for more information. > ii. Patrick-2, d. after 5 Sep 1915; perhaps the same > Patrick O'Connor who was a boiler-maker and resided > at 58 River Street in Hornell in 1891 (Directory of > Steuben Co., NY); resided in Hornell in 1915. > iii. Michael, d. after 5 Sep 1915; perhaps the Michael F. > O'Connor who was a machinist and boarded at 9 > Pardee St. in Hornell in 1891 (Directory of Steuben > Co., NY); resided in Hornell in 1915. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Hartigan [mailto:jhartig1@twcny.rr.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:59 PM > To: perry@streeter.com; NYALLEGA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYAllega] Re: O'Connor - Wellsville > > Perry: > Do you have any dates to go with your request? Thanks, > Jim Hartigan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <perry@streeter.com> > To: <NYALLEGA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:28 PM > Subject: [NYAllega] Re: O'Connor - Wellsville > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Surnames: O'CONNOR > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BUB.2ACI/2097.1.1 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Jim: > > > > My great-great-great-grandfather, Patrick O'CONNOR, resided across the > Allegany-Steuben County line in Hornell. If your time and interest permit, > please review the O'CONNOR document at www.perry.streeter.com for any > potential matches. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Perry > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Information Boulevard's Virus Scanning] >
Jim: Thank you for your kind words and the helpful suggestions. My ancestral families have resided in Steuben County for as many as 9 generations and since as early as 1794. Many of these families resided in Towns which border Allegany County so you may find other local surnames of interest at www.perry.streeter.com. Perry -----Original Message----- From: Jim Hartigan [mailto:jhartig1@twcny.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:44 AM To: NYALLEGA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYAllega] Re: O'Connor - Wellsville Hi Perry: I like the way you have written your family history. The curse of the common Irish surname can be overcome, if one leaves "no stone unturned". I assume you have checked land & mortgage, probate, military, tax, voter and obscure records held by various societies & Assoc. I assumed you have searched all the censuses avail. 15 pages before & after where you found your folks. I assume you have used a wider net to catch collateral lines to help you unravel your direct lines. I assume you have used the greatest asset of the Familysearch.org, the Family History Library Catalog. I assume you have good American & Irish genealogy references. Please ask ques., I know how tough this research can be even with a much less common surname like Hartigan. Jim Hartigan <snip> --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Information Boulevard's Virus Scanning]
Perry: Have you checked out any of the County Packet pre-1860-Data in the counties where your ancestors lived? Allegany is indexed to give you a better idea of how the other 48 counties we have abstracted will look when indexed. I definitely would like to hear your opinion. 9 generations, fantastic!!! Jim Hartigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Perry Streeter" <perry@streeter.com> To: "Jim Hartigan" <jhartig1@twcny.rr.com>; <NYALLEGA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:53 PM Subject: RE: [NYAllega] Re: O'Connor - Wellsville > Jim: > > Thank you for your kind words and the helpful suggestions. My ancestral > families have resided in Steuben County for as many as 9 generations and > since as early as 1794. Many of these families resided in Towns which > border Allegany County so you may find other local surnames of interest at > www.perry.streeter.com. > > Perry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Hartigan [mailto:jhartig1@twcny.rr.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:44 AM > To: NYALLEGA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYAllega] Re: O'Connor - Wellsville > > > Hi Perry: > I like the way you have written your family history. The curse of the common > Irish surname can be overcome, if one leaves "no stone unturned". > I assume you have checked land & mortgage, probate, military, tax, voter and > obscure records held by various societies & Assoc. I assumed you have > searched all the censuses avail. 15 pages before & after where you found > your folks. I assume you have used a wider net to catch collateral lines to > help you unravel your direct lines. I assume you have used the greatest > asset of the Familysearch.org, the Family History Library Catalog. I assume > you have good American & Irish genealogy references. Please ask ques., I > know how tough this research can be even with a much less common surname > like Hartigan. > Jim Hartigan > > <snip> > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Information Boulevard's Virus Scanning] >