This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LISSABABEY Surnames: Offenbacker, Nedoroscik, Bederick, Dederick, Neaton Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/7621.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Heather - Based on the SSDI, Elizabeth was born 1/21/1924 (which agrees with the below census record) and died 9/19/1993. In her obituary, she lists Leonard as a step-brother, which should mean that are only related by marriage, so her mother is probably not Mattie. I found Elmer's (who's name appears to be Irvin Elmer) obituary, he died 4/1/1970. It says he is the son of the "late Charles and Stella [Bederick, Dederick] Neaton". It lists Charles as a surviver, but does not list Elizabeth or Leonard, who both would have been alive at this point. Family from the 1930 census: Home in 1930: Mechanicville, Saratoga, New York Household Members: Name Age Charles Neaton 50 Head Marinda Neaton 39 Wife Elizabeth Neaton 6 Daughter NOTE: I wasn't able to find any other census records that seemed to apply to the family. Note that the census says that Charles was first married in 1901 and Marinda was first married in 1907. I am assuming that this is not the same person as Mattie, which would lead me to believe that Charles was married before this current marriage to Marinda. Would it be possible that Charles Sr actually had 3 wives? If so, maybe: Wife #1 - Stella - definitely Elmer and possibly Charles, based on Elmer's obituary. Wife #2 - Miranda - possibly the mother of Elizabeth, since we are not sure when this couple was married. But based on Elmer's obituary not listing her, I'd lean towards Miranda being her mother. Even then she'd still be a half sister so you would think she'd be listed either way. Wife #3 - Mattie - who already had Leonard. The SSDI shows he was born in April 6, 1907. Obviously this is just a guess. Also this would mean that Charles and Mattie must have been married after 1930, and would have had no children together. I'd assume Elmer and Charles are older than Elizabeth due to the parents ages (50 & 39) in 1930. I couldn't find their birth dates in the SSDI or on the birthday database. If you have their birth dates you may be able to make better sense of this info! Oh, and while looking this stuff up, I found: - Obit for Elizabeth - Obit for Elmer - Marriage notice for Elizabeth (they were married 6/6/1943) - SSDI for Elmer, Elizabeth, and Mattie - Obits for what appears to be 2 brothers of Charles Sr. - Obit for Leonard Offenbacker. Let me know if you need any of these records! Also have you been to the NYS Archives in Albany? There are vital records indexes there where you may be able to find the marriage dates and also birth dates for these people. Good luck, Laurissa Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.