They don't have certificates but they used to make a copy of the entry in the ledger for a fee.I have copies of my grandfathers birth and also his marriage and the death of his sister from these ledgers.When I went there they would also print copies of index cards for a sur name with no fee. These were index cards for entries in the ledger.The lady who helped was nmed Angela or Angie.She may not still be there.Others might not be as helpful. The bottom line is that the index cards and ledgers are there unless they shipped them across the street to the library.The legers were so large she had to make more than one copy and scotch tape the together. ?If i rember correctly they had seperate ledgers fo births,deaths and marriages. Doug Groner -----Original Message----- From: Cliff Lamere <clifflamere@nycap.rr.com> To: nyalbany@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:54 am Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] FW: Henry Augustus Oakman The city of Albany had death certificates going back to 1870, but I had doubts about the city of Watervliet having death certificates in the 1870s. I phoned them today and confirmed that they don't have them. Buffalo and Yonkers go back to 1870 also. The city of Watervliet does have some vital records for 1849-1850 in a ledger. They won't allow an outsider to look at them. Beginning in 1847, school districts were supposed to collect vital records. I have seen some of those as late as 1851 online. For most parts of the state these records no longer exist. For other areas, they exist but are never mentioned by vital records offices. The city of Albany had theirs in 1942, but they don't know where they are now. These school district vital records were microfilmed for some areas. Cliff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ groner2413@aol.com wrote: >West Troy became Watervliet around 1900.Contact the city clerk in Watervliet they have records of births ,deaths and marriages before 1880.They are posted in ledger books.The library in Watervliet also has city directories which list for each year some but not all births,deaths ,marriages and moves from the city for each year.Someone at the library may also be able to help you. >Albany Rural Cemetary is on the northern edge of Watervliet,it is avery large cemetary and they have very good records on burials there.There was a man who worked there who was very helpful in finding these records.I don't know if he is still there & I? do not remember his name. >Doug Groner > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: ROBERT PHELAN >To: NYALBANY-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: 1/7/2009 8:12:31 PM >Subject: FW: Henry Augustus Oakman > > >I just visited your site and subscribed. I have a family branch member who >seems to have passed away in West Troy, Albany in 1874. I believe NYS archives >only has death certs from 1880 forward so I tried finding him in NYC as he >married in1862 Brooklyn to no avail. He is missing shortly thereafter and >probably settle d in upstate after the Civil War where he was in the Union Army. > ><snip> > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message