Harold, You asked me about the parents of Robert STEWART. Based mostly upon census data, I suspect that his parents are James STEWART and Ann SEATON, but nether left wills nor have I been able to find the birth or baptism records for their children that would seal the deal. I have pieced together the following. James STEWART was born 28 Feb 1749 (based upon age at death), place unknown . He enlisted 1775 from Blandford, MA immediately after the Battle of Lexington. He married first 6 May 6 1776 (date of intention) Ann SITTON or SEATON. She was born about 1750 based upon age at death. She died 1 Mar 1814 in Kortright, Delaware, NY. He married second 9 Apr 1815, Cynthia WARD at Westerlo only a month later when he was 65 and she was 28. Hmmmm. The questionably reliable Stewart Clan Magazine says that they had two sons, James and William. When he applied for a pension in 1832, he was living in Westerlo and testified that he enlisted in Blandford, MA. The pension record contains no birth info, but some local histories say he was born in Scotland. I suspect that James was Scotch-Irish. Suspected children of James STEWART and first wife Ann SEATON: * James STEWART Jr., born about 1786 in Delaware County. Died between 1860 and 1865, probably in Westerlo. This is the ancestor of Laura Rabideau, with whom I have been collaborating on research. * Robert STEWART, born 1794 in NY or CT. Died 1868 in Westerlo. Left will. I have not found a grave. Robert was living in Berne in 1830 and 1840. Jesse STEWART might be a brother of James STEWART Sr. He was also a solider who moved from Blandford, MA to Delaware County. Jesse is in Kortright, Delaware, NY in 1810. James was there sometime before 1800. A Silas and Benjamin STEWART of Kortright may also have been brothers. Note: while James STEWART Sr (1749-1844) lived in Kortright, Delaware, NY, there was another James STEWART (1747/48-1823) living in the adjacent town of Stamford, Delaware, NY. He also had a son named James STEWART. The other James was a son of William STEWART. Early census data more often used STUART than STEWART, also STEWARD. Peter Blood ----- Original Message ----- From: <nyalbany-request@rootsweb.com> To: <nyalbany@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 3:01 AM Subject: NYALBANY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 175 > > > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website > at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: NYALBANY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 174 (Harold Miller) > 2. Van Denburgh, Lorenzo b. 1864 & Rena b. 1867, father ?, > mother Nancy Elvira Worden, b. 1846-d. 1932; all b. Cohoes, > Albany NY (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) > 3. Genealogy Meeting (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) > 4. VanDenburgh & Nancy "ELVIRA" Worden d/o Lorenzo Worden. > (Marilyn LeVeque) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:27:37 -0500 > From: "Harold Miller" <halned1@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] NYALBANY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 174 > To: nyalbany@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <8737c6880807190527w2501d967g63a8118977cc9217@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >> >> >> >> Who are the parents of Mary MITCHELL? She was born about 1797 (in Albany >> County according to the 1855 Census). She married Robert STEWART Apr >> 1815 >> in Kortright, Delaware, NY. The couple moved back to Albany County by >> 1827, >> and settled in Westerlo. >> >> Does anyone know her parents? >> >> Any suggestions for research? Is there a book about the MITCHELL family >> that focuses on Albany County? >> >> Peter Blood >> Urbana, MD >> >> > Peter, > > I can't help on Mitchell, but I would like to know the parents of Robert > Stewart. Thanks > > -- > Harold (Hal) Miller > Berne Historical Project www.Bernehistory.org

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MarilynLeVeque28 Surnames: Van Denburgh, Worden, Perrault, Rivet Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/7606/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello researchers in Albany County, I am searching for information on the father of Lorenzo and Rena Van Denburgh. Which Van Denburgh male married Nancy "ELVIRA" Worden before 1863 and possibly died before 1870 Census? Are there marriage records? Are there death records for this male VanDenburgh in Cohoes? One census lists him born in Nova Scotia another NY. The family is very well settled in Cohoes, Albany County, NY from 1850 of the Worden's to 1920's the Van Denburgh descendants of this Nancy ELVIRA (WORDEN) VANDENBURH and unknown male VANDENBURGH. Lorenzo VanDenburgh married Delia (Rivet/Rival?) per census of 1900. He had one son I will list here: Leslie William VanDenburgh who m. Louise Perrault. Rena VanDenburgh married Abraham Lincoln BRAMHALL in Cohoes, NY, they died in Oneida County, NY and are buried in Carr Cemetery, Marcy, NY. I have their obits. He died 1931 and she died Oct. 3rd, 1945. Nancy "Elvira" (Worden) VanDenburgh is also buried in Carr Cem., Marcy, NY. She died in March 1932, but her obit does not list her husband, who I assume died before the 1870 Census in Cohoes, NY. Nancy ELVIRA Worden is the daughter of Lorenzo Worden and is listed in the Census inf. I have searched Census data and Ancestry.com and Albany County, nygenweb to no avail. Any clues or information welcomed. Sincerely, Marilyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello Albany researchers, Here are some obits on the Worden, Van Denburgh & Bramhall families, that I have collected together that were born in Cohoes, Albany County, NY. Obit of Abraham Lincoln BRAMHALL Wednesday April 1, 1931 Utica Daily Press Page number not legible Column 6 A. L. BRAMHALL, (my note aka Abraham Lincoln Bramhall) A. L. Bramhall, 45, 1100 Kellogg Avenue died at his home yesterday after a brief illness. Heart disease caused his death. He was born in Cohoes, April 14, 1865, and came to Utica from New Brunswick, N.J., in 1909. He married Rena G. Van Denburgh at Cohoes in 1889 (?) (print not clear). Besides his wife he leaves a daughter, Erminie Bramhall Burlingame, Utica: three brothers, William San Jose, Calif.; John Seattle, Wash.; and James Bramhall, Cohoes, and a sister, Mrs. William Lewis, Round Lake. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Obit of Nancy ELVIRA (Worden) Van Denburgh Census data says b. Aug. 1846 Waterville Times Thursday March 3, 1932 page 7 Column 6 Nancy Elvira (Worden) Van Denburgh Nancy Elvira Van Denburgh, mother of Mrs. Rena G. Bramhall died at the home of her granddaughter, Mrs. Erminie Bramhall Burlingame, Tower St., at 12:15 Wednesday morning. Mrs. Van Denburgh was born in Cohoes and went to Utica in 1913 where she resided until the death of her son-in-law, A. Lincoln Bramhall in March last year. She is survived by her daughter and granddaughter with whom she lived; one sister, Mrs. John MacNiven, Worcester, Mass; one granddaughter and 4 grandsons of Cohoes, also 11 great grandchildren. Funeral services will be held at her home, 405 Tower street, Saturday afternoon a 2 o'clock. Buried at Carr Cem., Marcy, Albany County, NY. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Obit of Rena G. (Bramhall) Burlingame Date of death Oct. 3rd, 1945 Waterville Times, Waterville, N.Y. October 4, 1945 Page 5, Column 5 top of page Mrs. Rena Bramhall Rena Vandenburgh, wife of the late A. lincoln Bramhall, died in a nursing home in Bridgewater October 3, 1945 following a lenthy illness. She was born in Cohoes, N. Y. and resided in Utica for several years. She was a former member of the Cohoes Philharmonic Society and a member of Centenary M. E. Church of Utica. For the past 14 years she made her home in Waterville. She is survived by one daughter Erminie B., wife of Clayton E. Burlingame; two grandsons, Lt. Elmo L. Burlingame stationed in Cardiff, Wales, and P.F.C. Eldon W. Burlingame stationed in Naples, Italy; also one granddaughter, Elvira E. Burlingame of Waterville. Funeral services will be held at 2 P.M., October 6, at 405 Tower Street, Waterville. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Obit of Erminie Bramhall Burlingame, d/o A. L. Bramhall & Rena Van Denburgh. The Waterville Times Waterville, NY Thursday June 16, 1966 Page 5 Column 4 Mrs. C. Burlingame Once Resident Mrs. Erminie B. Burlingame of 33 Bayberry Lane, Whitesboro, formerly of Waterville, died on June 14 (1966) in Faxton Hospital. She was born in Cohoes, a daughter of Rena Van Denburgh Bramhall. She came to Utica in 1909. She was married to Clayton E. Bulingame in 1917. The couple moved to Waterville in 1931 and to Whitesboro last year (1965). Besides her husband she leaves a daughter, Mrs. Gene E. (Elvira) Purcell and 2 sons, Elmo L. and El Don (Eldon) W. (Burlingame) all of New Hartford. The funeral will be a nonn Friday from Williams Funeral Home with the Rev. H. E. Hudson, Church of the Reconciliation, pastor, officiating. Burial will be in Carr Cemetery, Marcy (Oneida County, NY). --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hoping someone in Albany County, NY will know the history of unknown Van Denburgh who married Nancy Elvira Worden and had Lorenzo and Rena Van Denburgh. Sincerely, Marilyn

Hello Albany County researchers, Hoping you can help, I am searching for the father of Lorenzo VanDenburgh b. ca 1864 and Rena VanDenburgh b. 1867 in Cohoes, Albany County, NY. Mother is known to be Nancy ELVIRA Worden b. Aug. 1846 in Cohoes, Albany County, NY. Her father is Lorenzo Worden and mother, Sarah. Nancy "Elvira" (Worden) VanDenburgh died March 7, 1932 and is buried in Oneida County, NY at Carr Cem., Marcy, NY. She died at her grand daughter's home. Lorenzo VanDenburgh m. Delia (Rivet or Rival depending on Census) and they lived in Cohoes, Albany County, NY. I have their children. Rena G. VanDenburgh married Abraham Lincoln (aka A. Lincoln) BRAMHALL and they all are buried in Carr Cem., Marcy, NY and I have their children and grandchildren to 1991. Searching for the unknown male VanDenburgh who married Nancy ELVIRA Worden sometime after 1860 and went missing before 1870 Census. What is his name? When did he die and of what? Did he serve in the Civil War? Some of the Census' say he was b. "NS" (Nova Scotia?) others say NY, so.... Hoping someone will know the answer. Thank you in advance for any help in finding his name and perhaps his parents. I assume his parents are grandparents are from the Cohoes area and may have been part of the original Dutch settlers. Sincerely, Marilyn mleveque@tcsn.net

> > > > Who are the parents of Mary MITCHELL? She was born about 1797 (in Albany > County according to the 1855 Census). She married Robert STEWART Apr 1815 > in Kortright, Delaware, NY. The couple moved back to Albany County by 1827, > and settled in Westerlo. > > Does anyone know her parents? > > Any suggestions for research? Is there a book about the MITCHELL family > that focuses on Albany County? > > Peter Blood > Urbana, MD > > Peter, I can't help on Mitchell, but I would like to know the parents of Robert Stewart. Thanks -- Harold (Hal) Miller Berne Historical Project www.Bernehistory.org Blah, bla, blog at http://berneny.blogspot.com/

Who are the parents of Mary MITCHELL? She was born about 1797 (in Albany County according to the 1855 Census). She married Robert STEWART Apr 1815 in Kortright, Delaware, NY. The couple moved back to Albany County by 1827, and settled in Westerlo. Does anyone know her parents? Any suggestions for research? Is there a book about the MITCHELL family that focuses on Albany County? Peter Blood Urbana, MD Researching New England and New York families including BRAY, DIBBLE, CARY/CAREY, BROWN, HALLADAY, SPENCER, WHITNEY, SPEAR, BLOOD, HERRICK, FRISBIE/FRISBEE, SWART, and TYLER.

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Leslie, Your geography question is not off-topic. On county websites, history and geography are as important as genealogy. It just happens that most people are here for the genealogy, but it is best understood in a geographical and historical context. French's "Gazetteer of New York State" (1860) has no such location. Using Google, I entered "Arlington, NY" (with the quotation marks) and clicked on a hit called ePodunk. Here is what it says. "Arlington is in Dutchess County, in the Poughkeepsie-Newburgh metro area. The community was named for the Duke of Arlington [NOTE: This is not the only community in New York named Arlington. For links to other places called Arlington, NY, see the Duplicate Names box <#fkaLink> at right.] That box says, "NY communities formerly known as Arlington: ·Richford </cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=1525>, Tioga County" Tioga Co. formed from Montgomery Co. in 1791. Montgomery was formed from Tryon Co. in 1784 (Tryon was just renamed) which formed from Albany Co. in 1772. This makes the Arlington in Tioga Co. a possibility, but when I went to the Tioga Co. website and entered Arlington, none of the five hits was for a location in NY. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nygenweb/county.htm Dutchess Co. was an original county, so that particular Arlington does not fit your requirement that Arlington be in old Albany Co. I also found this on another site, written by the Town of Richford historian: "Richford is located in the northeast corner of Tioga County... The population in the 1990 census was 1153. The name is from an early settler, Ezekiel Rich, who donated half of the public square. The town was formed from Berkshire, first as the town of Arlington in 1831. Its name was changed by an act of legislature in 1832, the same year the town was officially organized." http://www.tiogacountyny.com/towns_villages/richford_history.php Tioga Co. would not seem to be the location either. It formed too late. A phone call or letter to the historian might give you more insight as to whether Arlington was also a very small community there at one time. Cliff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Leslie B. Potter wrote: >Dear List, > >Please forgive my geography question? Admittedly it is off topic. > >I am going through Peter Wilson Coldham's book, "American Loyalist >Claims", and pulling out the names of Albany County, NY Loyalists. >Usually the summaries of Loyalists' claims in Coldham's book are >detailed enough for me to be able to place these Loyalist son the >appropriate list for the Albany County tax district in which they >actually lived. However, Isaac Brisco has me stumped. He stated that >he lived at Arlington in Albany County, NY and left home in 1777 to >serve as a Sargent in the Kings' Rangers. After the Rev War he settled >in the Second Twp. of Catarogui in Canada. He claimed the loss of >lands; houses; barns and mills. > >Does anyone know where Arlington was in "old" Albany County, NY. > >Thank you for your help. > >Sincerely, > >Leslie Potter >Glen Mills, PA >====NY-Albany Mailing List==== >Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ >Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Jane, Thank you for responding to my query. I don't know if Brisco meant Arlington, VT or not. I have a copy of "New York: Atlas of Historical County Boundaries" by Kathryn Ford Thorne. According to Thorne, on March 16, 1770, Albany County lost jurisdiction over most of the land in Vermont. On March 12, 1772, Albany County lost jurisdiction over the rest of Vermont ,with the exception of only the southern half of Bennington County, VT. Is Arlington in the southern half of Bennington County, VT? I do not own a modern map of Vermont. On January 14, 1777, Albany County lost jurisdiction over the southern half of present day Bennington County, VT. Brisco said that he left home in 1777. If he left home after, January 14, 1777, Arlington, VT could not have been in Albany County, NY. Since Burgoyne did not arrive in Montreal to lead his military expedition down the Champlain/Hudson Valley to Albany until May 6, 1777, I assume that Brisco did not leave home until later that spring or until early summer of 1777. Unfortunately, Thorne only shows county lines and not the villages or land patents within the counties. Thanks again, Leslie Jane Fiske wrote: > Could it be Arlington, Vermont? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> > To: <nyalbany@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:08 PM > Subject: [NYALBANY] Isaac Brisco of Arlington, Albany Co., NY in 1777 > > > >> Dear List, >> >> Please forgive my geography question? Admittedly it is off topic. >> >> I am going through Peter Wilson Coldham's book, "American Loyalist >> Claims", and pulling out the names of Albany County, NY Loyalists. >> Usually the summaries of Loyalists' claims in Coldham's book are >> detailed enough for me to be able to place these Loyalist son the >> appropriate list for the Albany County tax district in which they >> actually lived. However, Isaac Brisco has me stumped. He stated that >> he lived at Arlington in Albany County, NY and left home in 1777 to >> serve as a Sargent in the Kings' Rangers. After the Rev War he settled >> in the Second Twp. of Catarogui in Canada. He claimed the loss of >> lands; houses; barns and mills. >> >> Does anyone know where Arlington was in "old" Albany County, NY. >> >> Thank you for your help. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Leslie Potter >> Glen Mills, PA >> ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== >> Check out the mailing list's website >> at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ >> Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Could it be Arlington, Vermont? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> To: <nyalbany@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:08 PM Subject: [NYALBANY] Isaac Brisco of Arlington, Albany Co., NY in 1777 > Dear List, > > Please forgive my geography question? Admittedly it is off topic. > > I am going through Peter Wilson Coldham's book, "American Loyalist > Claims", and pulling out the names of Albany County, NY Loyalists. > Usually the summaries of Loyalists' claims in Coldham's book are > detailed enough for me to be able to place these Loyalist son the > appropriate list for the Albany County tax district in which they > actually lived. However, Isaac Brisco has me stumped. He stated that > he lived at Arlington in Albany County, NY and left home in 1777 to > serve as a Sargent in the Kings' Rangers. After the Rev War he settled > in the Second Twp. of Catarogui in Canada. He claimed the loss of > lands; houses; barns and mills. > > Does anyone know where Arlington was in "old" Albany County, NY. > > Thank you for your help. > > Sincerely, > > Leslie Potter > Glen Mills, PA > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website > at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List, Please forgive my geography question? Admittedly it is off topic. I am going through Peter Wilson Coldham's book, "American Loyalist Claims", and pulling out the names of Albany County, NY Loyalists. Usually the summaries of Loyalists' claims in Coldham's book are detailed enough for me to be able to place these Loyalist son the appropriate list for the Albany County tax district in which they actually lived. However, Isaac Brisco has me stumped. He stated that he lived at Arlington in Albany County, NY and left home in 1777 to serve as a Sargent in the Kings' Rangers. After the Rev War he settled in the Second Twp. of Catarogui in Canada. He claimed the loss of lands; houses; barns and mills. Does anyone know where Arlington was in "old" Albany County, NY. Thank you for your help. Sincerely, Leslie Potter Glen Mills, PA

Thank you Joe, The maps on that site are terrific. However, I like maps. Thanks again, Leslie joslake@sbcglobal.net wrote: > You will find about a dozen maps (I haven't looked at them) at the following URL (The > People of Colonial Albany). The page is an Index. Scroll down to "Maps": > > http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/albany/pcalhindex.html > > Joe Lake > > >> Jane, >> >> Thank you for responding to my query. >> >> I don't know if Brisco meant Arlington, VT or not. I have a copy of >> "New York: Atlas of Historical County Boundaries" by Kathryn Ford >> Thorne. According to Thorne, on March 16, 1770, Albany County lost >> jurisdiction over most of the land in Vermont. On March 12, 1772, >> Albany County lost jurisdiction over the rest of Vermont ,with the >> exception of only the southern half of Bennington County, VT. Is >> Arlington in the southern half of Bennington County, VT? I do not own a >> modern map of Vermont. >> >> On January 14, 1777, Albany County lost jurisdiction over the southern >> half of present day Bennington County, VT. Brisco said that he left >> home in 1777. If he left home after, January 14, 1777, Arlington, VT >> could not have been in Albany County, NY. Since Burgoyne did not >> arrive in Montreal to lead his military expedition down the >> Champlain/Hudson Valley to Albany until May 6, 1777, I assume that >> Brisco did not leave home until later that spring or until early summer >> of 1777. >> >> Unfortunately, Thorne only shows county lines and not the villages or >> land patents within the counties. >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Leslie >> >> Jane Fiske wrote: >> >>> Could it be Arlington, Vermont? >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> >>> To: <nyalbany@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:08 PM >>> Subject: [NYALBANY] Isaac Brisco of Arlington, Albany Co., NY in 1777 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Dear List, >>>> >>>> Please forgive my geography question? Admittedly it is off topic. >>>> >>>> I am going through Peter Wilson Coldham's book, "American Loyalist >>>> Claims", and pulling out the names of Albany County, NY Loyalists. >>>> Usually the summaries of Loyalists' claims in Coldham's book are >>>> detailed enough for me to be able to place these Loyalist son the >>>> appropriate list for the Albany County tax district in which they >>>> actually lived. However, Isaac Brisco has me stumped. He stated that >>>> he lived at Arlington in Albany County, NY and left home in 1777 to >>>> serve as a Sargent in the Kings' Rangers. After the Rev War he settled >>>> in the Second Twp. of Catarogui in Canada. He claimed the loss of >>>> lands; houses; barns and mills. >>>> >>>> Does anyone know where Arlington was in "old" Albany County, NY. >>>> >>>> Thank you for your help. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> Leslie Potter >>>> Glen Mills, PA >>>> ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== >>>> Check out the mailing list's website >>>> at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ >>>> Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== >>> Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ >>> Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== >> Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ >> Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> > > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Cliff, Thank you for the information. Historical geography can be a real nightmare at times. This is one of those times. Since Tryon County had been created from Albany on March 12, 1772, I suspect that if Brisco had been from Tryon County, he would have said so. There are plenty of men from Tryon County, who were Loyalists, fled to Canada, filed claims and are listed in Coldham's book. However, I found Arlington, VT on the 1775 Montressor map of the Province of New York. It looks like Arlington is due east of the town of Salem, Washington County, NY. So I googled Arlington, VT. The google map showed that Arlington, VT is located south side of Route 313, which appears to follow the Batten Kill for at least part of its course. Thorne's Atlas seems to indicate that the Batten Kill was the dividing line between the north and south sections of present day Bennington County, VT from March 12, 1772 to January 14, 1777. So since Albany County's loss of the southern half of Bennington County was a recent event in relation to Isaac Brisco's departure for Canada, maybe the news of the change had not caught up to Mr. Brisco. Although Isaac Brisco may not have been completely accurate about which county he lived in on January 15, 1777, it is "close enough for government work". I suspect that the British government did not fuss about his inaccuracy. Now to figure out my next puzzle. I have a Timothy Buill, who claimed to live in Charlotte County, but describes Ft. Miller as being on the wrong side of the Hudson River. Why historians get gray! Thanks again, Leslie Cliff Lamere wrote: > Leslie, > > Your geography question is not off-topic. On county websites, history > and geography are as important as genealogy. It just happens that most > people are here for the genealogy, but it is best understood in a > geographical and historical context. > > French's "Gazetteer of New York State" (1860) has no such location. > Using Google, I entered "Arlington, NY" (with the quotation marks) and > clicked on a hit called ePodunk. Here is what it says. > > "Arlington is in Dutchess County, in the Poughkeepsie-Newburgh metro area. > > The community was named for the Duke of Arlington > [NOTE: This is not the only community in New York named Arlington. For > links to other places called Arlington, NY, see the Duplicate Names box > <#fkaLink> at right.] > > That box says, "NY communities formerly known as Arlington: > ·Richford </cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=1525>, Tioga County" > > Tioga Co. formed from Montgomery Co. in 1791. Montgomery was formed > from Tryon Co. in 1784 (Tryon was just renamed) which formed from Albany > Co. in 1772. This makes the Arlington in Tioga Co. a possibility, but > when I went to the Tioga Co. website and entered Arlington, none of the > five hits was for a location in NY. > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nygenweb/county.htm > > Dutchess Co. was an original county, so that particular Arlington does > not fit your requirement that Arlington be in old Albany Co. > > I also found this on another site, written by the Town of Richford > historian: "Richford is located in the northeast corner of Tioga > County... The population in the 1990 census was 1153. The name is from > an early settler, Ezekiel Rich, who donated half of the public square. > The town was formed from Berkshire, first as the town of Arlington in > 1831. Its name was changed by an act of legislature in 1832, the same > year the town was officially organized." > > http://www.tiogacountyny.com/towns_villages/richford_history.php > > Tioga Co. would not seem to be the location either. It formed too > late. A phone call or letter to the historian might give you more > insight as to whether Arlington was also a very small community there at > one time. > > Cliff > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Leslie B. Potter wrote: > > >> Dear List, >> >> Please forgive my geography question? Admittedly it is off topic. >> >> I am going through Peter Wilson Coldham's book, "American Loyalist >> Claims", and pulling out the names of Albany County, NY Loyalists. >> Usually the summaries of Loyalists' claims in Coldham's book are >> detailed enough for me to be able to place these Loyalist son the >> appropriate list for the Albany County tax district in which they >> actually lived. However, Isaac Brisco has me stumped. He stated that >> he lived at Arlington in Albany County, NY and left home in 1777 to >> serve as a Sargent in the Kings' Rangers. After the Rev War he settled >> in the Second Twp. of Catarogui in Canada. He claimed the loss of >> lands; houses; barns and mills. >> >> Does anyone know where Arlington was in "old" Albany County, NY. >> >> Thank you for your help. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Leslie Potter >> Glen Mills, PA >> ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== >> Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ >> Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

You will find about a dozen maps (I haven't looked at them) at the following URL (The People of Colonial Albany). The page is an Index. Scroll down to "Maps": http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/albany/pcalhindex.html Joe Lake > Jane, > > Thank you for responding to my query. > > I don't know if Brisco meant Arlington, VT or not. I have a copy of > "New York: Atlas of Historical County Boundaries" by Kathryn Ford > Thorne. According to Thorne, on March 16, 1770, Albany County lost > jurisdiction over most of the land in Vermont. On March 12, 1772, > Albany County lost jurisdiction over the rest of Vermont ,with the > exception of only the southern half of Bennington County, VT. Is > Arlington in the southern half of Bennington County, VT? I do not own a > modern map of Vermont. > > On January 14, 1777, Albany County lost jurisdiction over the southern > half of present day Bennington County, VT. Brisco said that he left > home in 1777. If he left home after, January 14, 1777, Arlington, VT > could not have been in Albany County, NY. Since Burgoyne did not > arrive in Montreal to lead his military expedition down the > Champlain/Hudson Valley to Albany until May 6, 1777, I assume that > Brisco did not leave home until later that spring or until early summer > of 1777. > > Unfortunately, Thorne only shows county lines and not the villages or > land patents within the counties. > > Thanks again, > > Leslie > > Jane Fiske wrote: >> Could it be Arlington, Vermont? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Leslie B. Potter" <lbpotter@comcast.net> >> To: <nyalbany@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:08 PM >> Subject: [NYALBANY] Isaac Brisco of Arlington, Albany Co., NY in 1777 >> >> >> >>> Dear List, >>> >>> Please forgive my geography question? Admittedly it is off topic. >>> >>> I am going through Peter Wilson Coldham's book, "American Loyalist >>> Claims", and pulling out the names of Albany County, NY Loyalists. >>> Usually the summaries of Loyalists' claims in Coldham's book are >>> detailed enough for me to be able to place these Loyalist son the >>> appropriate list for the Albany County tax district in which they >>> actually lived. However, Isaac Brisco has me stumped. He stated that >>> he lived at Arlington in Albany County, NY and left home in 1777 to >>> serve as a Sargent in the Kings' Rangers. After the Rev War he settled >>> in the Second Twp. of Catarogui in Canada. He claimed the loss of >>> lands; houses; barns and mills. >>> >>> Does anyone know where Arlington was in "old" Albany County, NY. >>> >>> Thank you for your help. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Leslie Potter >>> Glen Mills, PA >>> ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== >>> Check out the mailing list's website >>> at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ >>> Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== >> Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ >> Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DBurton119 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/7603.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks, Mary Anne and Richard, for your helpful replies to my post. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: aggieway Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/7603.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My 1944 City Directory shows George A Stahler as a funeral director at 200 Lark St. In 1953, the business was at 12 Colvin Ave, Albany (note: not a funeral home today). The 1959 City Directory shows that George died in 1957, but a widow Anne and his son George Jr. (a student) are shown living together. Try plugging George A. Stahler into zabasearch.com for NY State. The one born in 1939 appears to live not far from Albany and is about the right age to have been listed in the City Directory as a student in 1959. He could be the undertaker's son and perhaps could help you with the location of any records that might survive if you are willing to contact him. Also, have you contacted the Ann Lee Home (now merged with the Albany County Nursing Home) to see if they might be of any help? I've no idea what records they might have kept or if they would even release them. It occurs to me that if you have no informant on the death certificate that perhaps the Ann Lee Home rather than a relative/friend made the burial arrangements. Hope this helps a little. Mary Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Dear List, I always like knowing the end of the story. So let me tell you what I found out about Amos Nettleton and his brother, Daniel Nettleton, with the help of two members of the Albany County e-mail list. (The two Albany County List members were Donna [no last name given] and Janet Haseley, Research Chair, Rensselaerville Historical Society). I had run the whole list of surnames enumerated in the September 18th, 1779 Minutes of the Commissioners for Conspiracies past the several of the county lists and received two responses pertaining to the other men, who had been the subject of the Minute from the Commissioners on Conspiracies along with Daniel Nettleton. These responses helped me hone in on Amos and Daniel Nettleton. Amos Nettleton lived in Dutchess County and served in the Second Regiment of the Dutchess County Militia during the Rev War. At some point Amos Nettleton removed from Dutchess County and settled in the Rensselaerwick District of Albany County prior to the 1790 U.S. Census being taken. Daniel Nettleton apparently had settled in the Half Moon District of Albany County. He had been there long enough and was prosperous enough to have been listed on both the March 2, 1779 and the October 23, 1779 Half Moon District Tax Lists for Albany County, NY. According to Tim Fenton, Daniel had applied for land in Canada by 1791. Coldham's "American Loyalist Claims" gave me the information on Joseph Knapp, one of other men from the Half Moon District, who had been hauled before the Commissioners for Conspiracies with Daniel Nettleton in 1779. Knapp had been driven from his farm in the Half Moon District of Albany County in 1781 for harboring 19 members of the British army. Coldham states that Knapp escaped to Canada with seven others. I suspect that there is the real possibility that Daniel Nettleton, of the Half Moon District of Albany County may well have been one of those seven. Admittedly there was nothing straight forward about this research, but all is well that ends well, no matter how circuitous the route. Sincerely, Leslie Potter Glen Mills, PA

Thank you, Janet. This is interesting information. Leslie Edhase@aol.com wrote: > Descendants of Ananias Conklin(g) were among the earliest settlers in > Rensselaerville which is in the extreme southwest corner of Albany County. They > came from East Hampton, Long Island. Daniel Conkling, Sr. was among the > earliest. Among other early Conkling names were Daniel Jr., John, Gurdon, David, and > Josiah. Some used the Conkling spelling and some used the Conklin spelling. > > Janet Haseley, Research Chair, Rensselaerville Historical Society > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you, Donna. Your information has been very helpful. Leslie Donna K. Vaughn wrote: > I asked a researcher I know who is working on some of these lines (not a > list member) and I was told that "an Ananias (Conklin) line went to > Renssellaerville and a "Pre-1700 Westchester Conklin, I think is more in the > Saratoga area. The Wiltse surname is connected to the Pre-1700 Westchester > Conklins usually. Lossing is a Dutchess name and all three main lines were > there." > > Donna >