Hello Albany listers, I am looking for father of Lorenzo VanDenburgh, he was born June 1864 (if Census data is correct) in Cohoes and lived in Cohoes. He must have died sometime after 1910 Census and before 1930 Census. I can find his widow Delia (Rivet) VanDenburgh living in Cohoes in 1930 with her daughter, Rena (VanDenburgh) Forest and surprisingly enough her own mother, Mary Rivet, age 82. Is there a Historian for the town of Cohoes? Would the death certificate for Lorenzo VanDenburgh list his father's name? Thank you for any help anyone in Albany County can provide. Sincerely, Marilyn in CA

I talked to Father McTavey, retired Pastor at St. Bernards, Cohoes, at Mass today. The records, such as they are, from this Cemetery are at the Diocescan Cemetery Office at St. Agnes Cemetery, Menands. JTravis **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

That was my point. You get this junk, you mark it as "spam' and you get un-subscribed.. Yjen its a pain to re-subscribe. JTravis **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

My vote is to keep the gateway between the board and mailing list - a helpful reminder about the board and easy enough to delete unwanted items.. Thank you for all you do, Pat. Katharine

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/7612.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found most of what I know on Ancestry so as long as you dont need these census records I won't post them. Also, the newspaper articles I found were from Ancestry, too, so you already have access to them. Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I am curious about the motive of the person posting the junk mail since advertising on this site will only anger those receiving the email. It is a no-win, waste-of-time, endeavor. Toribeth Napa, CA ************** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

At the time I went( 2 or 3 years ago),you could view the index cards and get a copy made at no charge.If you wanted a copy of the ledger for an idividual event you had to submit a form and make a payment. Doug Groner -----Original Message----- From: Sheilaploof1@aol.com To: nyalbany@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 2:03 pm Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] Watervliet ledgers and b-m-d microfilm (Also changed the subject line from Waterman Brick Wall Still Standing) Are the old Watervliet ledgers and the microfilm of index cards available for individual/personal viewing or used as part of a paid search by the staff at the City Clerks office? Thank you. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You might think about warning people that if if you are allowing junk through and they mark something as spam, then they get automatically un-subscribed from the site. Then, its a pain trying to re-subscribe. JTravis **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

We don't allow junk mail to be posted, in fact we work very hard to keep it off the lists but some are sneaky and join a list, post the garbage and then get off. One way to do so, is to post to the various message boards and if they are connected to lists, the messages then got automatically to the lists. Something else. A number of lists have gotten messages to join different online programs. This happens because a subscriber signs up for a program, like Face Book, and the program send a 'join me' to everyone in the subber's address book. So, remember if you sign up for such a program, to control where those messages go. > You might think about warning people that if if you are allowing junk > through and they mark something as spam, then they get automatically un-subscribed > from the site. Then, its a pain trying to re-subscribe. > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dechdi126 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/7612.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: in the 1880 census Lydia Fuller is living with them, I am assuming Sarah's mother 2 children wilbert and Ida there are Fullers living next door who could be Sarah's brother and family Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WinnebagoGirl Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/7612.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I do have access to census records. I am looking for any and all info--Justus and Sarah's children's names (if there are any others), their parents names, etc. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bob15955 Surnames: SADLER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/7613/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Seeking information on whereabouts of Tyyrance SADLER Tyyrance, who is about 39-40 years of age, was last living (2006) in the Albany-Troy-Schenectady, NY area He may have a wife named Nadine. He used to (1994) live downstate in the Queens, New York City area Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/7612.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: How much info on this family do you want? I found Sarah Hicks obit and some other obits for this family. I think Sarah's maiden name was Fuller and I have her in the 1850, 1860, 1870,1880,and 1900 census. She dies in July,1904. Do you have access to the census records and ancestry?? If not I can post for you and explain why I think her maiden name is Fuller. Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

In a message dated 7/25/2008 2:49:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nyalbany-request@rootsweb.com writes: Message: 3 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:24:54 -0700 From: "Pat Connors" <nymets22@gmail.com> Subject: [NYALBANY] ADMIN MSG: re: Change your entire life around with a few clicks To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, nyalbany@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <e194a7930807251024i2678d6bdj256f906aa241ce23@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859 I vote for Albany list only, don't appreciate some of the gateway material Tom **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WinnebagoGirl Surnames: Hicks Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/7612/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I am looking for info on Justus Hicks. He was born around 1826 in Cohoes, Albany Co., New York. He married a woman named Sarah (looking for her maiden name) and had at least two sons: Egbert and Ivan. He moved to Oshkosh, WI in the 1850's. I am looking for his parents names, any other children, his wife's maiden name, etc. Any help is appreciated. Here is his obit: Daily Northwestern May 6, 1895 p.4 Death of J.B. Hicks Never Regained Consciousness- Funeral services to be held tomorrow Justus H. Hicks, whose critical illness was noted on Friday, died Saturday night at 11:45 o'clock. He was unconscious for a long period preceding his death and never rallied from the first stroke of paralysis. He was born in Cohoes, N.Y. in 1825 and came to Winnebago county in 1853. In 1865 he moved to Oshkosh and for a time was quite an active business man. He was one of the first secretaries of the Winnebago County Agricultural society and was a foremost worker in early days for the upbuilding of that organization. Immediate relatives who survive him are a wife and two sons, Ivan H. and Egbert H., both of this city. The funeral services will be held at 2 o'clock tomorrow afternoon from Odd Fellows' hall on Algoma street. The interment will be at Ellenwood. Daily Northwestern May 7, 1895 p.8 The funeral services of the late Justus Hicks were held at Odd Fellows hall on Algoma street this afternoon at 2 o'clock. Rev. E. H. Smith of First Congregational church conducted religious exercises and preached a sermon, after which the Odd Fellows' ritual was rendered. The remains were interred at Ellenwood cemetery. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Marilyn, I came across several Bramhalls and Wordens while working on the Hogeboom family. They were Charles Bramhall who married Eliza Hogeboom and Moses Bramhall who married Elizabeth Hurlbert. I also have a David Worden who married Lucretia Hogaboom. Do you have any information on these families? I also have many Van Den Berghs on my website at www.angelfire.com.ga4/myhayes_family/ Are we related in some way? -- Richard

I vote to please keep the gateway to the message boards opened. Before I found the mailing lists, around 2002, I too was a message board poster. Occasionally, I still get replies to those posts from people that have not found the mailing lists yet. It's a great link to a possible wallbanger or to a living relative. If anyone has any connections to Mitchell, Roth, McMurray, or Kearns/Kerns in the Albany/Rensselaer area, from about 1850 to present, please get in touch. Best Regards, Robert MacMurray P.S. Here's a question/suggestion - Would it be possible to post a message to the Albany message board encouraging the people that use it to subscribe to the mailing list? It's been so long since I subscribed to the board that I can't recall if there's any reference to the mailing list when I signed up. It probably won't cut down on the miniscule amount of spam that gets through, but it may get a lot more people "on the same page" (so to speak). Think you could handle the extra baggage? :-) -----Original Message----- >From: Pat Connors <nymets22@gmail.com> >Sent: Jul 25, 2008 1:24 PM >To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, nyalbany@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NYALBANY] ADMIN MSG: re: Change your entire life around with a few clicks > >It looks like some spam got through via the NY Albany message board. >When I took over this list, a few years ago, we had a discussion about >keeping the message board connected with the list and most wanted to >keep the connection so we did. > >Meanwhile, Rootsweb became Ancestry with less overview, hence, we are >having problems with spam on the boards and on the lists. So, I think >this is a good time to get some more opinions. > >Do you want to keep the board connection or not? Please write your >opinion to the list. After a week, I'll see how feeling is on the >list and let you know if we continue the connection or not. Remember, >everyone is entitled to their opinion so if someone differs with you, >it is okay and no need to get in flaming wars. > >Thanks for your cooperation.

Hello to all Although I agree with what is being said, I have a pessimistic view of the future, regarding this issue. I also agree that it takes little energy to hit the delete button, with a glance at, either, the subject line, or the first few lines of text. In a way, there is much to be said about these boards and lists being text only, in that attachments are automatically filtered and/or denied. Happy rummaging John

Pat, As you're aware, we just recently went through this issue on the Rensselaer County list and Cliff Lamere put the negatives of gatewaying as succinctly as anyone could, certainly better than I could. The response was swift and the Rensselaer County list no longer accepts gatewayed messages from the boards. Cliff's comments follow for all to consider: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The list administrator asked our opinion about whether to keep the gateway system, so I have tried to evaluate it. Nobody has said anything negative about this system, so let me be the first. I'm not trying to talk anyone into abondoning the system. I just offer some facts to weigh. Here are some reasons why people might not like it. 1) You can't tell who wrote the gatewayed email (not even your own) without opening it. They all come from "gc-gateway". It is fairly important to know who wrote the email. For example, if Pat Connors writes an email, I will always open it no matter what the subject is. 2) People seldom use even their first name at the end of a gatewayed message, so you don't know who wrote the message, which makes them definitely less personal. 3) Most of the time you don't know, and can't learn, the email address of the sender, so you can't answer privately. 4) You can read the gatewayed email, but the previous message is not included in it. It is therefore very often hard to understand the answer. When a subject has several respondents at once, you just can't tell to what the incoming email is responding. Even if there is only one respondent that day, you still can't tell what they were answering. This becomes even worse when the question was posted several days, weeks, or months earlier (as is often the case with message boards). This kind of confusion is avoided by using the message board the way it was intended; by visiting it. 5) Gatewaying forces you to go online and do some research if you want to understand many of the emails. 6) BUT, when I tried to do that twice in the past three days, the link to the online message took me to a screen advertising Ancestry instead of to the message board. I did learn that if I closed the browser window and clicked on the email link in the message a second time, that second time I would be taken to the correct place. Most people would not have tried it a second time. 7) The current system sometimes generates duplicate messages to the mailing list. 8) Gatewaying confuses a large number of the mailing list members. Sometimes they try to answer the question being posed on the message board, but they are only sending their answer to the mailing list members. The person who asked the question doesn't always see a helpful answer. 9) As one member complained, somedays there are a lot of these messages that have to be deleted. For those who check mail once a day, that is not a problem. For those whose computers alert them to the fact that there is an incoming email, checking to see what that mail is, then deleting it is not much of a problem. But, the large number of gatewayed messages on some days can mean checking many extra times. I suspect that some people find that to be annoying. 10) Unlike in past years, the mailing list Archives no longer shows who wrote most of the emails, because the ones that are gatewayed don't list a sender or their email address. They just list a "handle" of seemingly nonsense letters which usually makes it impossible to recognize the sender's name. That means that it will be harder or impossible to contact the sender when a genealogist finds an interesting message in the mailing list's Archives. That is a lot of negatives. You may think of others. Despite all of these negatives, a small percentage of list members are no doubt being helped, and a higher percentage don't want to miss the chance that a message board message might help. But, this can be resolved a different way. A line could be added at the bottom of each email from the mailing list that tells how to reach the message board. And an email reminder could be sent every two or three months to the mailing list suggesting that we check the message board. People who use a message board usually ask to be notified when someone replies to their message. So, it would not be harmful to the list member if they didn't read the message on the day it was written. I believe the negatives of gatewaying much outweigh the positives. However, the list administrator knows things about the mailing list and message board that few of us know. She knows how she would like things to operate, what would be easy and reasonable for her, and what would be best for the mailing list. I think she is in the best position to make the decision. I don't care one way or the other. I just tried to present an analysis of the situation. Cliff Lamere ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It goes without saying that my vote is to cease accepting message board posts to the list. Regards to all, Jim Groat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Connors" <nymets22@gmail.com> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>; <nyalbany@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:24 PM Subject: [NYALBANY] ADMIN MSG: re: Change your entire life around with a fewclicks > It looks like some spam got through via the NY Albany message board. > When I took over this list, a few years ago, we had a discussion about > keeping the message board connected with the list and most wanted to > keep the connection so we did. > > Meanwhile, Rootsweb became Ancestry with less overview, hence, we are > having problems with spam on the boards and on the lists. So, I think > this is a good time to get some more opinions. > > Do you want to keep the board connection or not? Please write your > opinion to the list. After a week, I'll see how feeling is on the > list and let you know if we continue the connection or not. Remember, > everyone is entitled to their opinion so if someone differs with you, > it is okay and no need to get in flaming wars. > > Thanks for your cooperation. > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, list admin > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > ====NY-Albany Mailing List====

Curious to know if any of your Lockwoods came to Lennox and Addington Ontario, Canada post American Revolution. I will be away from a computer for the next 5 days or so. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn LeVeque" <mleveque@tcsn.net> To: <nyalbany@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:47 PM Subject: [NYALBANY] I vote KEEP message board gateway to Albany board > Hello all Albany listers, > > I am new to this board, but belong to others, this is the first board to > notify me of a post by a nonlister to the Rootsweb.com board (or > Ancestry.com board, both the same) regarding an Albany county query or > information, so only having dealt with the one spam e-mail, I vote KEEP > the > gateway to the boards and I will DELETE the nongenealogical fraud posters. > > BTW-I am researching VanDenburgh's, Worden's, Bramhall's in Cohoes, Albany > and Brown's, Christian's, Lockwood and Hotchkiss in Cayuga, Herkimer & > Oneida, NY counties. > > For some who MAY not be aware there is the wonderful > www.fultonhistory.com > site which offers newspaper articles from NY newspapers & with a very > simple search engine you can view the newspaper on Adobe. I found a > Jonathan Brown's court case from 1821 in a Cayuga County news article and > the Van Denburgh, Bramhall obits from 1931-1990's online at this site, > plus > newsy old time articles of piano recitals, visits with their family and > friends, etc, very informational articles.. > > Love reading about the past lives of our ancestors and seeing the old > classifieds and ads!. > > Marilyn in CA. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Dobie" <cdobie@superaje.com> > To: <nyalbany@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 5:31 PM > Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] ADMIN MSG: re: Change your entire life around with > a > few clicks > > >>I agree with Pat below. One more tap of the delete key isn't going to >> hurt anyone. >> >> I've had the same email address for 10 years or more and it has been >> posted on countless message boards and websites. Because of this I >> get an average of 350 spams per day. I've set up filters to trap the >> obvious stuff but I still have to visually scan the subject and >> senders because I have friends who think that an appropriate subject >> for their email is "hi" :-) >> >> Chas. Dobie. >> >> >> >> At 05:52 PM 7/25/2008, dlmcdon@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Pat, >>>I have participated with Rootsweb on several county levels for >>>several years.? My objective is to GET all the leads I can find, >>>filter them out for relevance, delete those that are not pertinent >>>and follow up those with some connection promise.? I can't imagine >>>the effort to hit the delete key is so significant as to warrant >>>restricting the flow of leads/clues that come from the multiple >>>sources, including the message board.? I vote strongly for retaining >>>the information flow. >>> >>>Regards, >>>DLMcDon >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Pat Connors <nymets22@gmail.com> >>>To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; nyalbany@rootsweb.com >>>Sent: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:24 pm >>>Subject: [NYALBANY] ADMIN MSG: re: Change your entire life around >>>with a few clicks >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>It looks like some spam got through via the NY Albany message board. >>>When I took over this list, a few years ago, we had a discussion about >>>keeping the message board connected with the list and most wanted to >>>keep the connection so we did. >>> >>>Meanwhile, Rootsweb became Ancestry with less overview, hence, we are >>>having problems with spam on the boards and on the lists. So, I think >>>this is a good time to get some more opinions. >>> >>>Do you want to keep the board connection or not? Please write your >>>opinion to the list. After a week, I'll see how feeling is on the >>>list and let you know if we continue the connection or not. Remember, >>>everyone is entitled to their opinion so if someone differs with you, >>>it is okay and no need to get in flaming wars. >>> >>>Thanks for your cooperation. >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, list admin >>>http://www.connorsgenealogy.com >>>====NY-Albany Mailing List==== >>>Check out the mailing list's website >>>at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ >>>Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com >>>with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >>>body >>>of >>>the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>====NY-Albany Mailing List==== >>>Check out the mailing list's website >>>at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ >>>Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>Checked by AVG. >>>Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1572 - Release Date: >>>7/25/2008 6:51 AM >> >> Charles Dobie, >> cdobie@superaje.com >> >> ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== >> Check out the mailing list's website >> at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ >> Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website > at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message