They don't have certificates but they used to make a copy of the entry in the ledger for a fee.I have copies of my grandfathers birth and also his marriage and the death of his sister from these ledgers.When I went there they would also print copies of index cards for a sur name with no fee. These were index cards for entries in the ledger.The lady who helped was nmed Angela or Angie.She may not still be there.Others might not be as helpful. The bottom line is that the index cards and ledgers are there unless they shipped them across the street to the library.The legers were so large she had to make more than one copy and scotch tape the together. ?If i rember correctly they had seperate ledgers fo births,deaths and marriages. Doug Groner -----Original Message----- From: Cliff Lamere <clifflamere@nycap.rr.com> To: nyalbany@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:54 am Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] FW: Henry Augustus Oakman The city of Albany had death certificates going back to 1870, but I had doubts about the city of Watervliet having death certificates in the 1870s. I phoned them today and confirmed that they don't have them. Buffalo and Yonkers go back to 1870 also. The city of Watervliet does have some vital records for 1849-1850 in a ledger. They won't allow an outsider to look at them. Beginning in 1847, school districts were supposed to collect vital records. I have seen some of those as late as 1851 online. For most parts of the state these records no longer exist. For other areas, they exist but are never mentioned by vital records offices. The city of Albany had theirs in 1942, but they don't know where they are now. These school district vital records were microfilmed for some areas. Cliff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ groner2413@aol.com wrote: >West Troy became Watervliet around 1900.Contact the city clerk in Watervliet they have records of births ,deaths and marriages before 1880.They are posted in ledger books.The library in Watervliet also has city directories which list for each year some but not all births,deaths ,marriages and moves from the city for each year.Someone at the library may also be able to help you. >Albany Rural Cemetary is on the northern edge of Watervliet,it is avery large cemetary and they have very good records on burials there.There was a man who worked there who was very helpful in finding these records.I don't know if he is still there & I? do not remember his name. >Doug Groner > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: ROBERT PHELAN >To: NYALBANY-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: 1/7/2009 8:12:31 PM >Subject: FW: Henry Augustus Oakman > > >I just visited your site and subscribed. I have a family branch member who >seems to have passed away in West Troy, Albany in 1874. I believe NYS archives >only has death certs from 1880 forward so I tried finding him in NYC as he >married in1862 Brooklyn to no avail. He is missing shortly thereafter and >probably settle d in upstate after the Civil War where he was in the Union Army. > ><snip> > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Nancy, Whew!! That's a lot of stuff! Let's start with the birth and death records. If you go to The Albany City Hall site, click on the Vital Statistics section. Here's a direct link: http://www.albanyny.org/forms.aspx#Vital%20Statistics%20Forms They have forms for births, marriages and deaths in the Genealogical section. You can fill them out on line, print them and mail them in. OR -you can call City Hall, if you have questions -it's not free - minimum of $22.00 for a short search. If you have the exact dates, it may cost less. That's why calling might be your first step. Number is: (518) 434-5284 Here's a list of the Albany newspapers through the years: http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/101.htm The Cemetery office is in Menands: 48 Cemetery Ave, Menands, NY 12204 (518) 463-0134 Good Luck, Ann

The city of Albany had death certificates going back to 1870, but I had doubts about the city of Watervliet having death certificates in the 1870s. I phoned them today and confirmed that they don't have them. Buffalo and Yonkers go back to 1870 also. The city of Watervliet does have some vital records for 1849-1850 in a ledger. They won't allow an outsider to look at them. Beginning in 1847, school districts were supposed to collect vital records. I have seen some of those as late as 1851 online. For most parts of the state these records no longer exist. For other areas, they exist but are never mentioned by vital records offices. The city of Albany had theirs in 1942, but they don't know where they are now. These school district vital records were microfilmed for some areas. Cliff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ groner2413@aol.com wrote: >West Troy became Watervliet around 1900.Contact the city clerk in Watervliet they have records of births ,deaths and marriages before 1880.They are posted in ledger books.The library in Watervliet also has city directories which list for each year some but not all births,deaths ,marriages and moves from the city for each year.Someone at the library may also be able to help you. >Albany Rural Cemetary is on the northern edge of Watervliet,it is avery large cemetary and they have very good records on burials there.There was a man who worked there who was very helpful in finding these records.I don't know if he is still there & I? do not remember his name. >Doug Groner > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: ROBERT PHELAN >To: NYALBANY-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: 1/7/2009 8:12:31 PM >Subject: FW: Henry Augustus Oakman > > >I just visited your site and subscribed. I have a family branch member who >seems to have passed away in West Troy, Albany in 1874. I believe NYS archives >only has death certs from 1880 forward so I tried finding him in NYC as he >married in1862 Brooklyn to no avail. He is missing shortly thereafter and >probably settled in upstate after the Civil War where he was in the Union Army. > ><snip> >

Trying to locate a grave of my wife's grandfather (L. Pogoda) which is somewhere in this area. Have contacted Beth Abraham_Jacob and Levine Memorial Chapel and one of the benevolent associations and Guilderland Town Clerk without success. Internment was in 1917-18, marker was raised in the 60's(?). Marker was of course in Hebrew, think I have found the marker but it is so weathered can't even get a decent rubbing. Ultimate goal is to find grave and replace/?restore marker. Does anyone have any suggestions? Tom Mc Hugh **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215047751x1200957972/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

You are right it is the southern edge.All I can say is oops. Doug -----Original Message----- From: Ro765@aol.com To: nyalbany@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:21 pm Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] FW: Henry Augustus Oakman In a message dated 1/8/2009 10:06:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, groner2413@aol.com writes: northern edge of Watervliet Doug, check the above info, I think it is on the southern edge. Bob McA **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215047751x1200957972/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a Burtonville west of Albany, maybe in Scoharie. Pete> From: Johnntravis@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 14:45:13 -0500> To: nyalbany@rootsweb.com; NYALBANY-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] Location of Jerusalem and Bartonville> > Don't know of a "Jerusalem" or a Bartonville in Albany County. There is a > Jerusalem Cemetery in Feura Bush, Bethlehem, Albany County.> > JTRAVIS> **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making > headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)> ====NY-Albany Mailing List====> Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/> Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry.> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_012009

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John, Thank you for your help as well and all the help that I see you giving to others. Both Cliff and you are always there to help and we all appreciate your kindness in sharing your knowledge. Barbara in Az ----- Original Message ----- From: <Johnntravis@aol.com> To: <nyalbany@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] Location of Jerusalem and Bartonville > Cliff is right. I was thinking Feura Bush is in Bethlehem but it is in > New > Scotland. You go through Bethlehem to get to New Scotland. > > JTRAVIS > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making > headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website > at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is no doubt the correct place-Burtonsville. They were enumerated in the 1920 Census in Montgomery Co., so this is probably the correct town. Thank you for shoving me in the right direction<g> I sure appreciate the help! Barbara in AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Lamere" <clifflamere@nycap.rr.com> To: <nyalbany@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] Location of Jerusalem and Bartonville > Barbara, > > Jerusalem Reformed Church is in Feura Bush, which is in the Town of New > Scotland (SW of Albany city). > > The is no Bartonville in New York State today (two gazetteers), nor was > it mentioned in an 1860 gazetteer. There was a Burtonsville, however, > in Montgomery Co. right where Schoharie and Schenectady counties meet. > That is not too far from Albany Co. > > Cliff Lamere > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Barbara wrote: > >>Could someone give me an approximate location of what was known as >>"Jerusalem" in Albany Co.? >> >>I also have a copy of an obit which states that a survivor lived in >>Bartonville. I am not even sure if this is in Albany Co., but help would >>be appreciated. >> >>Thanks! >>Barbara in Az >> >> > > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website > at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cliff is right. I was thinking Feura Bush is in Bethlehem but it is in New Scotland. You go through Bethlehem to get to New Scotland. JTRAVIS **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

Barbara, Jerusalem Reformed Church is in Feura Bush, which is in the Town of New Scotland (SW of Albany city). The is no Bartonville in New York State today (two gazetteers), nor was it mentioned in an 1860 gazetteer. There was a Burtonsville, however, in Montgomery Co. right where Schoharie and Schenectady counties meet. That is not too far from Albany Co. Cliff Lamere ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Barbara wrote: >Could someone give me an approximate location of what was known as "Jerusalem" in Albany Co.? > >I also have a copy of an obit which states that a survivor lived in Bartonville. I am not even sure if this is in Albany Co., but help would be appreciated. > >Thanks! >Barbara in Az > >

Don't know of a "Jerusalem" or a Bartonville in Albany County. There is a Jerusalem Cemetery in Feura Bush, Bethlehem, Albany County. JTRAVIS **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

The villages of West Troy, Port Schuyler and Watervliet came together around the turn of the century to form the present-day City of Watervliet. The Albany Rural Cemetery is located in Menands. just south of Watervliet. They have very good records and are most helpful. The Rural Cemetery abuts the Catholic St. Agnes Cemetery. Many Watervliet residents were also buried in St. Patrick's Cemetery just up 19th St from Watervliet. JTRAVIS **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

In a message dated 1/8/2009 10:06:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, groner2413@aol.com writes: northern edge of Watervliet Doug, check the above info, I think it is on the southern edge. Bob McA **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215047751x1200957972/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

West Troy became Watervliet around 1900.Contact the city clerk in Watervliet they have records of births ,deaths and marriages before 1880.They are posted in ledger books.The library in Watervliet also has city directories which list for each year some but not all births,deaths ,marriages and moves from the city for each year.Someone at the library may also be able to help you. Albany Rural Cemetary is on the northern edge of Watervliet,it is avery large cemetary and they have very good records on burials there.There was a man who worked there who was very helpful in finding these records.I don't know if he is still there & I? do not remember his name. Doug Groner -----Original Message----- From: ROBERT PHELAN <lilwolf53@earthlink.net> To: NYALBANY@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 7:16 pm Subject: [NYALBANY] FW: Henry Augustus Oakman If you can post the snippet below for page 130, I would deeply appreciate it. It has all the known details for possible assistance. lilwolf53@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ----- Original Message ----- From: ROBERT PHELAN To: NYALBANY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 1/7/2009 8:12:31 PM Subject: FW: Henry Augustus Oakman I just visited your site and subscribed. I have a family branch member who seems to have passed away in West Troy, Albany in 1874. I believe NYS archives only has death certs from 1880 forward so I tried finding him in NYC as he married in1862 Brooklyn to no avail. He is missing shortly thereafter and probably settled in upstate after the Civil War where he was in the Union Army. The attached sniplet has him passing in Albany. That's all I have. I would appeciate any help with family or cemetery info or registers of life events for this family. If I can reciprocate for anyone in NYC Archives, feel free to ask and I will do my best to accomodate. Thanks for any/all info........ Robert C. Phelan lilwolf53@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ----- Original Message ----- From: Vicki Strickland To: lilwolf53@earthlink.net Sent: 1/7/2009 6:05:50 PM Subject: Henry Augustus Oakman Hi Robert, Happy new year to you! Hope you have had an enjoyable (and not too cold) Christmas. I have had a couple of days to myself of late and have been going through Google Books to see what I could find on various Oakmans. I have found something which is going to be of great interest to you. Source: ?The Maine Historical and Genealogical Recorder? By Stephen Marion Watson Published by Genealogical Pub. Co., 1887 I?m not sure what Vol or issue ? just have publication year. Here?s the link for you: Link: http://books.google.com/books?id=3owMAAAAYAAJ&q=%22oakman%22+glasgow&dq=%22oakman%22+glasgow&lr=&ei=l_xjSZTYN4X-kwTqjMUo&pgis=1 Worth hunting it down???? Talk soon, Vicki ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== Check out the mailing list's website at:http: //www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could someone give me an approximate location of what was known as "Jerusalem" in Albany Co.? I also have a copy of an obit which states that a survivor lived in Bartonville. I am not even sure if this is in Albany Co., but help would be appreciated. Thanks! Barbara in Az

If you can post the snippet below for page 130, I would deeply appreciate it. It has all the known details for possible assistance. lilwolf53@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ----- Original Message ----- From: ROBERT PHELAN To: NYALBANY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 1/7/2009 8:12:31 PM Subject: FW: Henry Augustus Oakman I just visited your site and subscribed. I have a family branch member who seems to have passed away in West Troy, Albany in 1874. I believe NYS archives only has death certs from 1880 forward so I tried finding him in NYC as he married in1862 Brooklyn to no avail. He is missing shortly thereafter and probably settled in upstate after the Civil War where he was in the Union Army. The attached sniplet has him passing in Albany. That's all I have. I would appeciate any help with family or cemetery info or registers of life events for this family. If I can reciprocate for anyone in NYC Archives, feel free to ask and I will do my best to accomodate. Thanks for any/all info........ Robert C. Phelan lilwolf53@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ----- Original Message ----- From: Vicki Strickland To: lilwolf53@earthlink.net Sent: 1/7/2009 6:05:50 PM Subject: Henry Augustus Oakman Hi Robert, Happy new year to you! Hope you have had an enjoyable (and not too cold) Christmas. I have had a couple of days to myself of late and have been going through Google Books to see what I could find on various Oakmans. I have found something which is going to be of great interest to you. Source: ?The Maine Historical and Genealogical Recorder? By Stephen Marion Watson Published by Genealogical Pub. Co., 1887 I?m not sure what Vol or issue ? just have publication year. Here?s the link for you: Link: http://books.google.com/books?id=3owMAAAAYAAJ&q=%22oakman%22+glasgow&dq=%22oakman%22+glasgow&lr=&ei=l_xjSZTYN4X-kwTqjMUo&pgis=1 Worth hunting it down???? Talk soon, Vicki

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: canis1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/7660/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Capital District Genealogical Society will meet at the Colonie Town Library 629 Albany-Shaker Road, Loudonville Saturday Jan 24, 2009 2 P.M. to 4 P.M. The computer group will meet at 1 P.M. The computer group is an informal demonstration by one of our members of sites and tips to use on your computer The topic for the meeting will be The Knickerbocker Family The speaker will be Jon Stevens Please join us the meeting is free and open to the public. Capital District Genealogical Society P.O. Box 2175 Empire State Plaza Station Albany, NY 12220 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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