I have a copy of the Record Books 1857-1946 of the above named Church on CD. I will do look ups for those looking for members during this time period. The members of this church seem to be all of German descendency, with an occasional Polish name noted. The church was located at 125 Central Ave. in Albany and the cemetery is on Sand Creek Rd, not too far from Memory Garden. Barbara in AZ

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Heritage Hunters wants everyone to get off to a great start on their genealogy projects in 2009 by attending a meeting on Saturday, January 17, at 1:00 pm at the Saratoga Springs Public Library, 49 Henry Street, Saratoga Springs. Beginners and experienced alike will benefit from learning the basics and more, especially on Internet research, taught by Heritage Hunters founder, Ruth Ann Messick. Additional help is available days and evenings throughout the winter at the Saratoga Library as needed. Email or call Ruth Ann to setup times to meet and make use of the warm library and their computers. Call Ruth Ann's cell 518-207-7494 or email GodIsUnlimited@yahoo.com . Ruth Ann is also willing to also meet at the County Clerk's office and Surrogate Court in Ballston Spa and learn how to use their deed and probate records. Ruth Ann says, "There is always something to learn no matter how long you've been at it."

John, We would like to have you upload a biography of him to Albanyhilltowns.com under the Rensselaerville Biographies with a subsection ==Military Service==. Thanks. Harold (Hal) Miller ALBANY HILLTOWNS <http://albanyhilltowns.com/> - sharing information on our Berne, Knox, Westerlo, and Rensselaerville ancestors BERNE HISTORICAL PROJECT <http://bernehistory.org/> - now featuring the Hilltowns Genealogy HILLTOWNS FACEBOOK GROUP<http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1609167281&v=feed&story_fbid=42097780582#/group.php?gid=39859776842>- discussing history and genealogy of the Hilltowns Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:48:54 EST > From: Johnntravis@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] Hilltowns men in the Civil War. > To: nyalbany@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <ccb.40ced67f.369d06b6@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > My ancestor, Great-grandfather Justus Travis fought in the 5th NY Cavalry. > He was born on Travis Hill in Rensselaerville, but enlisted in Athens. I > know quite a bit about him. > > JTRAVIS > **************

My ancestor, Great-grandfather Justus Travis fought in the 5th NY Cavalry. He was born on Travis Hill in Rensselaerville, but enlisted in Athens. I know quite a bit about him. JTRAVIS **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

"To clarify then, the Albany City death records are just in Albany City?" That can be said only of death certificates from before 1914. Beginning in 1914, the city and the state both have them. The state has the original handwritten copy, and the city has the information in a ledger. Cliff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nancy M. Lyons wrote: >Cliff thanks so very much for your response. I believe you have great web >site that I just located, and I found some death notices/obits > >You said > >The city of Albany has death certificates from 1870 to 1913 that have >never been turned over to the state. If a person died in the city of >Albany, after 1913 the certificates are available from both places. >Before ordering a certificate, you must decide whether you think a >person who died before 1914 died in the city of Albany or not. The >cemetery record should tell the place of death. > >4I >have dates of internment to use a guide. They are buried in St Agnes >Cemetery. The census of 1860 though 1920 shows the family in Albany City. > >Many thanks again, >Nancy > > >

"To clarify then, the Albany City death records are just in Albany City?" That can be said only of death certificates from before 1914. Beginning in 1914, the city and the state both have them. The state has the original handwritten copy, and the city has the information in a ledger. Cliff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nancy M. Lyons wrote: >Cliff thanks so very much for your response. I believe you have great web >site that I just located, and I found some death notices/obits > >You said > >The city of Albany has death certificates from 1870 to 1913 that have >never been turned over to the state. If a person died in the city of >Albany, after 1913 the certificates are available from both places. >Before ordering a certificate, you must decide whether you think a >person who died before 1914 died in the city of Albany or not. The >cemetery record should tell the place of death. > >4I >have dates of internment to use a guide. They are buried in St Agnes >Cemetery. The census of 1860 though 1920 shows the family in Albany City. > >Many thanks again, >Nancy > > >

Henry Augustus Oakman, nee 1835, Pittstown and passes 1874 in West Troy. His Civil War records have no familial information. He marries in Brooklyn, 1862, but cannot find Church though I believe I found Rev. King in Episcopal Church which has no record. Neither does NY Gen & Bio Society which I belong to. Any help is appreciated. I think Oakman is Scottish as his wife was. His son marries my gr grandaunt in Catholic Church but she was a Delahanty. The men seem to go to the women's religion with the Anglo-Saxon side. Not my German side, just the opposite. Thanks, Bob Phelan lilwolf53@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. > [Original Message] > From: <Johnntravis@aol.com> > To: <nyalbany@rootsweb.com>; <NYALBANY@rootsweb.com> > Date: 1/9/2009 5:43:44 PM > Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] Albany City Irish > > The 1st ward is the old South End. Depending on the year and address, they > would have went to St John's or St Anne's (my old parish). But since they > merged into St Johns-St Anne's Parish, ifs no longer a problem. They're at 95 > Fourth Ave, Albany, 12202. > > Dont think baptismal certificates have places of origin, but naturalizations > at Hall of Records may. > Its on Tivoli St, Albany. > > What's the name you're working on? > > JTRAVIS > > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making > headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I spoke to a very nice young lady at St. Angela/St. Patrick's office. She is going to search the 9 Catholic cemeteries in the Troy, Watervliet, Albany area for me and call Monday. I was very lucky. I also will send $22 Gen request to Vital Statistics, Rm 254M, in Albany for a search which appears to be different than DOH Albany or so they said. We will see soon. If not this, then I may buy the Maine Genealogical booklet where the entry was found. How it got into Maine history is unknown to me........lol Thanks all, and I think Oakman is Scottish - at least his wife was - Dawson. Bob Phelan lilwolf53@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. > [Original Message] > From: <groner2413@aol.com> > To: <nyalbany@rootsweb.com> > Date: 1/9/2009 5:08:50 PM > Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] FW: Henry Augustus Oakman > > They don't have certificates but they used to make a copy of the entry in the ledger for a fee.I have copies of my grandfathers birth and also his marriage and the death of his sister from these ledgers.When I went there they would also print copies of index cards for a sur name with no fee. These were index cards for entries in the ledger.The lady who helped was nmed Angela or Angie.She may not still be there.Others might not be as helpful. > The bottom line is that the index cards and ledgers are there unless they shipped them across the street to the library.The legers were so large she had to make more than one copy and scotch tape the together. > ?If i rember correctly they had seperate ledgers fo births,deaths and marriages. > Doug Groner > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cliff Lamere <clifflamere@nycap.rr.com> > To: nyalbany@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:54 am > Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] FW: Henry Augustus Oakman > > > > The city of Albany had death certificates going back to 1870, but I had > doubts about the city of Watervliet having death certificates in the > 1870s. I phoned them today and confirmed that they don't have them. > Buffalo and Yonkers go back to 1870 also. > > The city of Watervliet does have some vital records for 1849-1850 in a > ledger. They won't allow an outsider to look at them. Beginning in > 1847, school districts were supposed to collect vital records. I have > seen some of those as late as 1851 online. For most parts of the state > these records no longer exist. For other areas, they exist but are > never mentioned by vital records offices. The city of Albany had theirs > in 1942, but they don't know where they are now. > > These school district vital records were microfilmed for some areas. > > Cliff > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > groner2413@aol.com wrote: > > >West Troy became Watervliet around 1900.Contact the city clerk in Watervliet > they have records of births ,deaths and marriages before 1880.They are posted in > ledger books.The library in Watervliet also has city directories which list for > each year some but not all births,deaths ,marriages and moves from the city for > each year.Someone at the library may also be able to help you. > >Albany Rural Cemetary is on the northern edge of Watervliet,it is avery large > cemetary and they have very good records on burials there.There was a man who > worked there who was very helpful in finding these records.I don't know if he is > still there & I? do not remember his name. > >Doug Groner > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: ROBERT PHELAN > >To: NYALBANY-L@rootsweb.com > >Sent: 1/7/2009 8:12:31 PM > >Subject: FW: Henry Augustus Oakman > > > > > >I just visited your site and subscribed. I have a family branch member who > >seems to have passed away in West Troy, Albany in 1874. I believe NYS archives > > >only has death certs from 1880 forward so I tried finding him in NYC as he > >married in1862 Brooklyn to no avail. He is missing shortly thereafter and > >probably settle > d in upstate after the Civil War where he was in the Union Army. > > > ><snip> > > > > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cliff thanks so very much for your response. I believe you have great web site that I just located, and I found some death notices/obits You said The city of Albany has death certificates from 1870 to 1913 that have never been turned over to the state. If a person died in the city of Albany, after 1913 the certificates are available from both places. Before ordering a certificate, you must decide whether you think a person who died before 1914 died in the city of Albany or not. The cemetery record should tell the place of death. To clarify then, the Albany City death records are just in Albany City? I have dates of internment to use a guide. They are buried in St Agnes Cemetery. The census of 1860 though 1920 shows the family in Albany City. Many thanks again, Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Lamere" <clifflamere@nycap.rr.com> To: <nyalbany@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] Albany City Irish Nancy, Death certificates can usually be obtained from two places; from the state and from the local government. The state has the handwritten, complete and original certificate. Locally, they have copied some, but not all, of the information from the certificate into a ledger before the certificate was forwarded to the state. The local, typed certificate contains all essential genealogical information but may omit minor things like when the doctor first treated the patient, and when the patient was last seen. It might tell the main cause of death, but might omit the secondary causes. If you get the original copy, you get to decipher difficult spellings, but may have to wait several months to get it. A local copy will be received in 2-4 weeks. The cost is the same at either source ($22). If you order a certificate and it can't be found, there is no refund. Before charging you, small communities sometimes will look at their records over the phone to see if they have it. The state and most cities will not do that. The city of Albany has death certificates from 1870 to 1913 that have never been turned over to the state. If a person died in the city of Albany, after 1913 the certificates are available from both places. Before ordering a certificate, you must decide whether you think a person who died before 1914 died in the city of Albany or not. The cemetery record should tell the place of death. Cliff Nancy M. Lyons wrote: >Hi all, >I am searching for an Irish Catholic family who lived in Albany in the mid >to late 1800s and 1900s. They are buried in St Agnes Cemetery. I have their >dates of internment. What is the most cost efficient way to obtain copies >of >the death records? and where to get them? What information is provided on >the death records in the 1880s? 1890s? early 1900s? If a couple was living >in Albany and having children in the 1st ward the 1840s what Catholic >Church would they have taken their children to be baptized? Do the >baptismal >records ever contain place of origin of the parents? >What newspaper would have covered the area in the 1800s? Do any of the >local >institutions have online databases? >Regards >Nancy > > > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know, I thought I'd get it all out of the way! Thanks for responding. So a phone call to see if they have a record would be good. I have dates of internment. I appreciate the link to the State Library. This is great information. I hope it comes to you in your research. Regards Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann W" <annw659@cableone.net> To: <nyalbany@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] Albany City Irish Hi, Nancy, Whew!! That's a lot of stuff! Let's start with the birth and death records. If you go to The Albany City Hall site, click on the Vital Statistics section. Here's a direct link: http://www.albanyny.org/forms.aspx#Vital%20Statistics%20Forms They have forms for births, marriages and deaths in the Genealogical section. You can fill them out on line, print them and mail them in. OR -you can call City Hall, if you have questions -it's not free - minimum of $22.00 for a short search. If you have the exact dates, it may cost less. That's why calling might be your first step. Number is: (518) 434-5284 Here's a list of the Albany newspapers through the years: http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/101.htm The Cemetery office is in Menands: 48 Cemetery Ave, Menands, NY 12204 (518) 463-0134 Good Luck, Ann ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a great list! The name in question is John B. Feeley and Julia Kelly (+variants). How are the church folks with filling requests for baptismal records? marriage records? I would send a donation and a self addressed stamped envelope. Many thanks for the help! Regards Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Johnntravis@aol.com> To: <nyalbany@rootsweb.com>; <NYALBANY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] Albany City Irish The 1st ward is the old South End. Depending on the year and address, they would have went to St John's or St Anne's (my old parish). But since they merged into St Johns-St Anne's Parish, ifs no longer a problem. They're at 95 Fourth Ave, Albany, 12202. Dont think baptismal certificates have places of origin, but naturalizations at Hall of Records may. Its on Tivoli St, Albany. What's the name you're working on? JTRAVIS **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nancy, My family was connected to the St. Agnes Church in Cohoes (now Holy Trinity), and the staff there was very nice about looking up information for me. I sent a donation for their efforts -I got my information through email after I had called them. Here's the link for St. John's-St. Anne's: http://www.sjsachurch.org/ Ann

Hello AAJ, If you go to Fulton Postcards newspaper index you will find 4 newspaper articles on Trixie Jennery, most involve a murder of an Armenian Oriental rug dealer who was shot on the street and he died in her arms. One about her graceful dancing. http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html All very interesting, no obit found, yet. Marilyn in CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "artnmarti@bellsouth.net" <artmartijannery@bellsouth.net> To: <NYALBANY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: [NYALBANY] Jennery > HI, > > Perhaps my previous query did not express my intent. Most interested in > any connection between Trixie Jennery performer in Vaudeville, Broadway, > et al, and to the Jennerys of Altamont, Albany County, NY > > Thanks. > > AAJ > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website > at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank, you Janet. Very glad to know about the Civl War monument in Rensselarville . Of course my list of Civil War men in the Hilltowns does not include many men from Rensselaeville. As you well know, I have just recently expanded my research to include Rensselarville. I hope you will give me a list of the names of men on the monument, and better yet, tell me more about them. Harold (Hal) Miller

Dear Hal, Your list of Civil War servicemen from the Hilltowns does not include many names from Rensselaerville, including my great grandfather Charles Mulford Niles who wrote a letter to his father, Judge John Niles in Rensselaerville, describing his emotions when he stood guard at Lincoln's casket. I have the original letter as well as his uniform and sword and a photo of him wearing the uniform and holding the sword. You are incorrect in saying there are no Civil War monuments in the hilltowns. In the middle of the Rensselaerville village cemetery is a monument erected to the memory of the Rensselaerville township men who died in the Civil War. The monument is inscribed with all their names (there are 29 of them), their ages and the regiments to which each belonged. Janet Haseley, Research Chair, Rensselaerville Historical Society **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

Nancy, Death certificates can usually be obtained from two places; from the state and from the local government. The state has the handwritten, complete and original certificate. Locally, they have copied some, but not all, of the information from the certificate into a ledger before the certificate was forwarded to the state. The local, typed certificate contains all essential genealogical information but may omit minor things like when the doctor first treated the patient, and when the patient was last seen. It might tell the main cause of death, but might omit the secondary causes. If you get the original copy, you get to decipher difficult spellings, but may have to wait several months to get it. A local copy will be received in 2-4 weeks. The cost is the same at either source ($22). If you order a certificate and it can't be found, there is no refund. Before charging you, small communities sometimes will look at their records over the phone to see if they have it. The state and most cities will not do that. The city of Albany has death certificates from 1870 to 1913 that have never been turned over to the state. If a person died in the city of Albany, after 1913 the certificates are available from both places. Before ordering a certificate, you must decide whether you think a person who died before 1914 died in the city of Albany or not. The cemetery record should tell the place of death. Cliff Nancy M. Lyons wrote: >Hi all, >I am searching for an Irish Catholic family who lived in Albany in the mid >to late 1800s and 1900s. They are buried in St Agnes Cemetery. I have their >dates of internment. What is the most cost efficient way to obtain copies of >the death records? and where to get them? What information is provided on >the death records in the 1880s? 1890s? early 1900s? If a couple was living >in Albany and having children in the 1st ward the 1840s what Catholic >Church would they have taken their children to be baptized? Do the baptismal >records ever contain place of origin of the parents? >What newspaper would have covered the area in the 1800s? Do any of the local >institutions have online databases? >Regards >Nancy > > >

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I have recently started a web site for people researching their Albany Hilltowns <http://albanyhilltowns.com/>ancestors from Berne, Knox, Westerlo, and Rensselaerville. 2011 is the 150th anniversary of the start of the Civil War. Perhaps a hundred or more hilltown men served in the Union Army with a casualty rate of maybe 25%. It had an big impact on the Towns and the families. Researchers from the Albany County hilltowns history and genealogy<http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1609167281&v=feed&story_fbid=42097780582#/group.php?gid=39859776842>group on Facebook are planning a series pf books on the history of the Hilltowns and the families that lived. The first in the series will be on the men from the Hilltowns who served in the Civil War. It will tell how the war affected the towns and their families. Where possible, family researchers will be asked to write, or at least contribute information, on their ancestors who served. Since there are no Civil War monuments in the hilltowns, the book will be a written memorial to the service of our Hilltown men. This will show that those who served are not forgotten. We want to collect copies of photos, letters written home from the soldiers, death notices, pension requests, military papers, medals, pictures of tombstones, family stories, etc. Michael Grant Hait Jr. will serve as the editor for the Civil War book. He lives in the Washington DC area and thus has access to the National Archives. He is currently writing a book on Civil War soldiers. To help us begin, we ask that all of you who have a Hilltown ancestor who served in the Civil War post their biography to Albanyhilltowns.com. Make sure the biography has a section on their service in the Civil War. Then add a link under the Civil War page reached from the bottom of the Main Page. I have uploaded a file list of Hilltown Men in the Civil War. It can be accessed by following links from the bottom of the home page at AlbanyHilltowns.com. Please look at the list and let me know if one of the men is an ancestor of yours that you can write a biography on. Send me additions and corrections. It has men with the following surnames: Allen, Ball, Barber, Barckley, Baxter, Bell, Beller, Bennett, Best, > Billings, Blade, Bogardus, Boomhower, Brate, Bronk, Cary, Champenois, > Chesbro, Chrysler, Clow, Condon, Cummings, Davis, Dennison, Devoe, Dietz, > Ecker, Engle, Filkins, Flansburgh, Flint, Gathan, Gibbs, Haight, Haverly, > Hayes, Hinman, Hochstrasser, Hoose, Irons, Jones, Karker, Ketcham, Kilbourn, > Lavery, Ludden, Martin, Mattice, McCulloch, McNary, Merrihew, Miller, > Newberry, Osterhout, Palmer, Posson, Post, Reinhart, Requa, Resue, > Sagendorf, Secor, Shafer, Shay, Shultes, Sinclair, Slade, Smith, Snyder, > Stafford, Stalker, Stanton, Steiner, Stonet, Strvell, Stringham, Taylor, Van > Vleek, Wagoner, Walden, Warner, West, Westfall, Wilber, Willsey, Wilson, > Wnne, Wisegarver, Wood, Wright, and Zeh. > Harold (Hal) Miller ALBANY HILLTOWNS <http://albanyhilltowns.com/> BERNE HISTORICAL PROJECT <http://bernehistory.org/> HILLTOWNS FACEBOOK GROUP: <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1609167281&v=feed&story_fbid=42097780582#/group.php?gid=39859776842>- Berne, Knox, Westerlo, and Rensselaerville

The 1st ward is the old South End. Depending on the year and address, they would have went to St John's or St Anne's (my old parish). But since they merged into St Johns-St Anne's Parish, ifs no longer a problem. They're at 95 Fourth Ave, Albany, 12202. Dont think baptismal certificates have places of origin, but naturalizations at Hall of Records may. Its on Tivoli St, Albany. What's the name you're working on? JTRAVIS **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

Hi all, I am searching for an Irish Catholic family who lived in Albany in the mid to late 1800s and 1900s. They are buried in St Agnes Cemetery. I have their dates of internment. What is the most cost efficient way to obtain copies of the death records? and where to get them? What information is provided on the death records in the 1880s? 1890s? early 1900s? If a couple was living in Albany and having children in the 1st ward the 1840s what Catholic Church would they have taken their children to be baptized? Do the baptismal records ever contain place of origin of the parents? What newspaper would have covered the area in the 1800s? Do any of the local institutions have online databases? Regards Nancy