You are absolutely correct, the original "Town of Watervliet" consisted of everything not the City of Albany. The Village of Green Island was unwanted when the Town of Colonie was formed and since Villages can't exist outsides of Towns, Green Island became both. There are three of these Town-Villages around the State. JTravis **************You can't always choose whom you love, but you can choose how to find them. Start with AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000002)

The original query that was gatewayed from the Albany County Message Board specifically referenced the year 1854. The answer that I provided, through that same message board, was correct for that timeframe. That was then, this is now, and municipalities have changed as much as other conditions. T Breedlove ----- Original Message ----- From: <Johnntravis@aol.com> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>; <NYALBANY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] Greenstone Island, New York > Green Island, Albany County is not within the Town of Watervliet. It is a > Village co-terminus with the Town of Green Island. They have a Village Mayor > and a Town Supervisor. > > JTRAVIS

Green Island, Albany County is not within the Town of Watervliet. It is a Village co-terminus with the Town of Green Island. They have a Village Mayor and a Town Supervisor. JTRAVIS **************You can't always choose whom you love, but you can choose how to find them. Start with AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000002)

Thanks again. I better go to Mapsonus to get my locations straightened out. Bob McA **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62)

Try the Hudson River Maritine Museum in Kingston, NY. They may have records and someone who can help.

Is there anyone on the list who is researching family members who worked on the steamboats that traveled between Albany and NYC in the 1860's and 1870's? If so,please contact me at.. dannnan1@bellsouth.net Thanks. Danny Guinan in Charleston,SC

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tbrdlve Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/7670.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Drop the "stone" and you come up with Green Island, a village within the Town of Watervliet in Albany County. This could be the location you're looking for. Good luck. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fpage143 Surnames: White, Holloway, Page Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/7670/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Gt, Grandfather's obit lists his place of birth in 1854 as Greenstone Island, NY, I have not been able to locate a location with that name, is anyone familar with that location? Thank you. Fred Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JudyH01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/45.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Donna, I haven't been able to find any records to let me know where my McCabe's came from in Ireland. Judy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: donnaknightvaughn Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/45.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a line of McCabe's from County Longford who came over in 1866 through the Port of New York, but they settled in Ossining NY (Westchester County). Are any of these McCabe's being discussed in this thread from County Longford?? Thanks, Donna Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The Bethlehem Historical Association has tools and info on Ice house and harvesting of Ice. My great grandfather worked down by the river in Selkirk at one of the many Ice house along there. Dawn **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62)

Was he called "Bid" and related to the McMahons? Barbara De Mase wrote: > I'm another Cohoesier. I lived in the north part of Cohoes so > wouldn't remember Matson's. My uncle John Rioux owned an ice house > where they made the ice inside in many compartments. As a kid, we > would go up there to see the ice. This was in the Orchard section up > near the Cohoes Falls. Before this, he had an ice house up along the > Mohawk River. If you were coming East on the river and came under the > bridge that Route 9 uses, as soon as you came under that bridge, his > ice house was on the right. But I guess they didn't use it when I got > older because it was a tumbled down wreck by then. > Barbara Bisnett De Mase (one of the many Bisnetts that went to > Cohoes High: Lois '50' > Barbara "51 > Jim > "52 > Kay > '53 > Pat > '55 > Tom '59 > I remember the McAlonies and Murrays from Cohoes (we are all the "Old > Timers" now.) > > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Matson's ice house was just south of the Sinclair oil tanks on Delaware Ave. T he Dyke is much farther south in the Pines area Ro765@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 2/16/2009 3:16:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > amurray7@nycap.rr.com writes: > > Matson's ice house on Delaware Ave > > > > Thank you very much!!! I think that area was called the DYKE > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe > bemailfooterNO62) > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JudyH01 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/45.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: She was born abt. 1848. Her parents names on DC were John & Mary McCabe. I assume they came here when Rose did but I am not sure. For being in this country as long as she was I have not any luck finding any records other than her Death Cert. I am told she was a widow when she married by Gr-Grandpa with a child and that she came from the Catskill area, but know she was born in Ireland Gr-Grandpa was living on Washington in Albany in 1881 with 3 children and widower. So not sure where she would have been living when they met, I assume Albany. Thanks very much Judy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I'm another Cohoesier. I lived in the north part of Cohoes so wouldn't remember Matson's. My uncle John Rioux owned an ice house where they made the ice inside in many compartments. As a kid, we would go up there to see the ice. This was in the Orchard section up near the Cohoes Falls. Before this, he had an ice house up along the Mohawk River. If you were coming East on the river and came under the bridge that Route 9 uses, as soon as you came under that bridge, his ice house was on the right. But I guess they didn't use it when I got older because it was a tumbled down wreck by then. Barbara Bisnett De Mase (one of the many Bisnetts that went to Cohoes High: Lois '50' Barbara "51 Jim "52 Kay '53 Pat '55 Tom '59 I remember the McAlonies and Murrays from Cohoes (we are all the "Old Timers" now.)

In a message dated 2/16/2009 3:16:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, amurray7@nycap.rr.com writes: Matson's ice house on Delaware Ave Thank you very much!!! I think that area was called the DYKE **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DLamitie Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.albany/45.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Judy- Sorry, I haven't come across a Rose McCabe. Did you have a birth year? Do you know if her parents, John and Mary, also immigrated to the US? I'll let you know if I see anything that might be helpful. Kind Regards, David Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Matson's ice house on Delaware Ave Ro765@aol.com wrote: > Hello all, I remember the icehouse between Cohoes and Green Island back in > the 1940's. Used to watch those huge cakes of ice traveling on chutes from one > location to another!! It was a lot of fun to watch back then. > > Wish I could remember the owner's name. Can anyone help me out? > > Bob McAlonie > Lincroft,NJ > but still a Cohosier. > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe > bemailfooterNO62) > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello all, I remember the icehouse between Cohoes and Green Island back in the 1940's. Used to watch those huge cakes of ice traveling on chutes from one location to another!! It was a lot of fun to watch back then. Wish I could remember the owner's name. Can anyone help me out? Bob McAlonie Lincroft,NJ but still a Cohosier. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62)

Cliff, That's interesting, because in my mind I can see the shape of the pond in Kenwood, and what you say makes sense. My mother, who was born in 1887, once in her reckless youth drove a horse and buggy across the ice to Castleton and back. Our place wasn't right next to the river, but on River Road across from Peltz Rd. The ice house was just a small building, evidently just for private use, and it like our old barn and the other outbuildings were all lost to the Thruway around 1950 when the road cut the farm into two pieces. My great-grandfather, Jacob J. Soop, built the house around 1848 and it's still there, or was a couple of years ago, but much changed and with the road very close to the back of the house. Where did you live in Selkirk? Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Lamere" <clifflamere@nycap.rr.com> To: <nyalbany@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [NYALBANY] Ice Harvesting in the Hudson River in 1915 > Jane, > > A pond was less dangerous than the river, and the thickness of its ice > was more uniform. The river ice could get worn away on the bottom and > thereby make some parts of the ice thinner, sometimes too thin to hold > the weight of the horse. However, it looked all the same as you walked > on it. > > I used to live in Selkirk in the '70s. Was your ice house right near > the river? > > Cliff > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Jane Fiske wrote: > >>Cliff, >> Interesting article about ice. I was a child in the 1930s, growing up on >> a >>farm in Selkirk, about halfway between Albany and New Baltimore, and among >>the outbuildings on our place was an ice house, as well as a smoke house >>and >>a wood house, all of which I remember as just storage although when I was >>very small we still had a refrigerator with real ice. There was a large >>rectangular pond at Kenwood that I understood had been used earlier to cut >>ice from, at the end of the city bus line, where my mother used to >>sometimes >>meet me when I was in high school in Albany and missed the regular bus -- >>or >>maybe there had been ice houses there, because why would they use a pond >>with the river right there? >> Jane >> >> >> > > ====NY-Albany Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website > at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > Add/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message