Hi Avi-   I have a couple of suggestions, if you haven't tried them already. 1. Visit the NYS Library at the Cultural Education Center in Albany. I also had ancestors that I was told "There is no record of them." at Troy City Hall.  However, I visited the above library, where they have an index of all death certificates recorded on microfiche, by year. I found three that Troy's clerks missed.  Mind you, this just gives you the Index number, the actual certificates have to be ordered from NYS and take several months to receive, and for a fee of course. 2. Check Troy Naturalization index on Pat Connors' site Connorsgenealogy.com. There is a special section for Troy and may help in other ways as well. The actual naturalization records are on file in the basement of the County Courthouse on Second St. in Troy. 3. If you know the names of the ancestors in Temple Beth El Cemetery, I can attempt to photo the stones for you. If they are in Yiddish, I won't make a fool of myself trying to transcribe them. In most cases the family name is in English on the stones. Email me directly. 4. Email for Temple Beth El is  [email protected]   Good luck in your search!  - Barry Considine ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 3:00 AM Subject: NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Digest, Vol 7, Issue 77 ** NOTE ** When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: 1.  Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. 2.  Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. Thank You - List Administrator Today's Topics:   1. New to Troy Research (Avi Lichtenstein)   2. Re: New to Troy Research (Kathleen Secker)   3. Re: New to Troy Research (James Kelly) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:55:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Avi Lichtenstein <[email protected]> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] New to Troy Research To: "[email protected]"     <[email protected]> Message-ID:     <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, my name is Avi, and I just recently subscribed to the list.? My great-grandmother Bella Goldstein was born in Troy or thereabouts in 1897.? Her father died in 1903, and afterwards her mother moved the family to New York City.? It looks like she had a very sizable extended family of Goldsteins who remained in Troy, including her grandparents.? I was able to get pictures of the graves of my great-grandmother's father and her grandparents, but I have thus far had only limited success in getting any records pertaining to their deaths.? I was able to get the grandfather's death certificate and letter of administration, but that is about it.? When I wrote to Troy City Hall for death certificates for my gggf and ggggm, none were on file.? Both were living in Troy at the time of their deaths, but I do not know where they died.? I am not sure what my next step should be in my search.? If anyone has any suggestions, I would be most appreciative.? All my family members were buried at the Bethel Cemetery, which as far as I can tell, does not have any kind of office or place to contact.? Kindest regards, Avi Lichtenstein

Hi, I have always wondered about my relative's birth in Troy. The family was French and protestant. When Adelbert Perrier was 6 yr. old, he was baptised in Quebec. However, I was wondering if his birth would still be recorded in Troy in 1872. Peggy

Hello Peggy: 1. New York State did not require reporting of birth/death/marriage records until 1880 and compliance with the law was not great in the early years. 2. Sugguest you try records of the French Church in Troy at the time which was St. Jean De Baptiste. All records for this church have been published and copies are in the Troy Library. Also, you can have a TIGS volunteer do a look-up in the book for you by sending an email request. Check out the TIGS website www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ click on RECOURCES and then click on LOOK-UPS IRISH ACTS OF KINDNESS where you will find the volunteer who has copies of St. Jean's records and who will do a look-up for you. Regards, Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY > Hi, > I have always wondered about my relative's birth in Troy. The family was > French and protestant. When Adelbert Perrier was 6 yr. old, he was > baptised in Quebec. However, I was wondering if his birth would still be > recorded in Troy in 1872. > Peggy