I had a similiar problem when searching for the marriage record for my wife's grandparents. This couple also immigrated from "Poland". However, the area they came from was a part of Austria when they were born, was ceded to Poland after they immigrated, and became part of the Ukraine after the breakup of the USSR. I had also been unsuccessful, when I tried St. Casmir's Polish parish in Albany where this couple worshiped, and where their children were baptized. Conducted a step by step search. From the Vital Records Index at the State Archives, I learned the license was issued and marriage recorded in 1912 at Albany. After obtaining a copy of the marriage record from the Albany County Archives, I learned they were married at Troy, by a "Gr. Catholic priest". Knowing they were from the region near, and now part of, the Ukraine, I contacted St. Nicholas Ukranian Orthodox Church in Troy. SUCCESS!!! And the church even provided an English translation of their record, along with a photocopy. >From the information given below, the marriage would have taken place 1903-1904. There should be a civil record, and the state index should indicate where that record originated. The local city or town can then be contacted directly to avoid state Health Dept. delays. If the civil record is obtained, it might then identify what church, or at least give some clue(s) for which churches to approach for a church record. And for recent immigrants, the language barrier could bea large clue. Hope this helps. And good fortune in the search. Tom Breedlove ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kris6851 via" <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Request for help solving a puzzle >I have received a request for help and am tossing it out to all the pro's >on this list. This lady is a real fan of TIGS and has only praise for the >projects we undertake, I hope we can give her some help and/or direction > Thanks > Kristin Cooney-Ayotte > > > > I noticed your name in associationwith the Troy Irish Genealogical Society > and the project of indexing marriagesfrom 1908-1930's. What a great help > to the genealogist. Too bad they don't havea link on the city of Troy > homepage. I see births and deaths at the bottom. > > I have been taking a couple ofgenealogy refresher courses recently. I > started back in 1984 with no Internet. Ihave made many trips to the > Archives in DC during the 80's. I wanted to catchup on what I may have > missed with Internet sites and it really can beoverwhelming. > > The reason I am writing is I'mwondering if you can give some advice for a > record that my husband and I havelong ago searched for but can't seem to > find. It is a marriage license of hisgrandparents: Jan/John STACHURA and > Caroline/Karolina GAWRON. They camefrom Poland and went to St. Michael's > in Cohoes since there was no Polishchurch in Troy. We went to the church a > while ago and the priest looked itup but could not find any record. He did > find the baptism of their first child,Anna, July 4, 1904. > > I found Karolina on a passenger listarriving March 10, 1903 at the age of > 16. Even if there was a churchrecord, did there have to be a civil record > also? If something happened to thechurch record I thought there might be > another place it was recorded. So mythought is either in Cohoes or Troy. I > know one can submit a search at the NYDept of Health but it said it would > take 8 months and better to go to thecourthouse. I get the impression that > they don't allow the public to search theselocal records. > > Something else I just thought of isthat she would not have turned 18 until > May 10, 1904 two months before Anna'sbirth. What happens if someone is a > minor? My grandmother was under theage of 18 in PA and had to have a > guardian in order to get married. > > I don't mind sending in a request toeither Cohoes or Troy but I was just > thinking you or someone in your group mighthave some other knowledge or > experiences with something like this. Thanks for any thoughts about this > puzzle. >