Hi Chris, Just want to thank you again for all the information you have been posting. Now I know I have to look into this further..... The cemetery literally sits across the street from me & I feel compelled to investigate its history. Do you know of any sites or government agencies I can access to help me? This is ( in my opinion) historical information for Troy. Kathy Sent from my iPad > On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Christopher Philippo via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > “Ramble.” Troy Daily Times. July 3, 1860: 3 col 2. > http://gravelyny.blogspot.com/2014/08/troy-nail-factory-cemeterys-high-toned.html > > Above article I found this morning describing the Oak Grove, Burden’s Lake, and Woodside areas of South Troy. The Nail Factory Cemetery as shown on the 1858 map was (is?) located north of the E. Proudfit mansion (the area that became the monastery), and east of William F. Burden and Henry Burden’s mansion(s). The article describes what would seem to be those mansions, as well as the cemetery: > > "Look at the magnificent mansions of Messrs. Burden and Proudfit, setting like ducal coronets on the mountain’s brow. Here Summer welcomes you to one of her sweetest charms, the sheen glancing in silken waves from the luxuriant foliage, the gleam of the sunbeams constantly adding new charms to the lovely picture, and the village burying-ground blending a high-toned pensiveness with the landscape.” > > Mr. and Mrs. Ebenezer Proudfit were responsible for the Proudfit Observatory at RPI http://www.lib.rpi.edu/Archives/buildings/proudfit.html > > In other news, I was just told some volunteers will be working in Cohoes’ City Cemetery located directly east of and adjacent to Crescent Union Cemetery in Halfmoon tomorrow, Thursday, at 12:30 and again on Monday at 12:30. I don’t know what their work focus will be - possibly trash removal, weed and branch removal, etc. With at present only about twenty marked graves visible when over 950 people were known to have been reinterred there, it’s possible that other headstones will resurface during the cleanup, which could be rewarding. On the other hand, it seems possible that few if any headstones will be found. I can try to get more details if anyone’s interested - short notice, I realize. > > Chris > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Aug 13, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Kathy Fomuk <kfomuk@icloud.com> wrote: > I feel compelled to investigate its history. Do you know of any sites or government agencies I can access to help me? This is ( in my opinion) historical information for Troy. There’s a NYS Dep’t of State Division of Cemeteries http://www.dos.ny.gov/cmty/ and a NYS Cemetery Board, but for the most part they don’t have jurisdiction over municipal (or religious, or family) cemeteries. It’s not clear to me what agency, if any, does oversight regarding municipal cemeteries. I’ve been meaning to try asking the NYS Division of Local Government Services http://www.dos.ny.gov/lg/ and NYS Comptroller’s Local Government and School Accountability http://www.osc.state.ny.us/localgov/ There’s some interesting reports on Troy there, incidentally: “We found that the City did not develop adequate procedures to monitor compliance with its Code and related statutory requirements. For example City established an Ethics Board to review annual financial disclosure statements and ethics complaints. However, one Ethics Board member told us that he has never met the other Ethics Board members and has not been asked to attend any meetings since he was appointed to the position in March 2008. Another Ethics Board member told us that the Board has not met since 2007 and she has never seen the annual financial disclosure statements that the Ethics Board is required to review annually. As a result,we found that 22 of the 72 individuals required to file these statements did not do so. One of the 22 individuals was an Ethics Board member, and another was a City Councilman. This is particularly troubling because those individuals should be setting an example for other City officers and employees. When a local government does not devel! op mechanisms to ensure compliance with its code of ethics, local officials have little assurance that they are preventing and detecting unethical conduct.” “Although officials told us that recent revisions to the Code addressed whistle-blower protection, we could not locate the revised section and the head of personnel was not aware of such revision.” http://www.osc.state.ny.us/localgov/audits/swr/2010/ethics/troy.pdf I asked Kathy Sheehan and she doesn’t know of any city or county records pertaining to the cemetery other than ones we’re already aware of, but indicated she could get in touch with HVCC’s President to make sure they’re aware of the possibility the cemetery is still there. City Engineer’s office might have maps. City Registrar of Vital Statistics might have burial permits. The city and/or county might have records pertaining to the ownership and transfers or sales of the Woodside area property, deeds, tax records. The State Environmental Quality Review (SEQR) http://www.dec.ny.gov/permits/357.html for the HVCC dorm project might address the issue of possible exhumation of bodies, opening of underground burial vaults, etc. Books of Troy’s Common Council Proceedings ought to have info about what became of the cemetery, or at very least one could find when it was last referenced. I don’t know how many survived the 1938 City Hall fire or where else might have copies, other than a couple places for sure. WorldCat indicates the NYPL in NYC as well as Harvard have some http://www.worldcat.org/title/common-council-proceedings/oclc/48838302&referer=brief_results Troy City Hall ought to have them - but might not. Rensselaer County Historical Society might have them. NYSL in Albany doesn’t seem to have them, though I think it ought. Troy newspapers used to publish the Common Council Proceedings as well, which is where I’ve been finding some info via fultonhistory.com - but there’s lots of Troy newspapers that website hasn’t scanned. Oakwood Cemetery may have some records pertaining to the reinterment of veterans from the Nail Factory Cemetery to Oakwood. Not just interment records, but the Day Books. While it would be laborious their records could potentially be checked for all the people named at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/NailFactoryCemetery/NailFactoryCemeteryIntro.htm to determine if they were moved there or not (I’d guess most were not). Chris