My Great-grandfather was a "teamster" in Chicago, which meant he used a horse and wagon commercially. Either he owned his own horse and wagon and was in business for himself, or he worked for someone who owned the horses or wagons as a driver. To this day unionized truck drivers belong to the Teamsters Union. Marianne Arnold On Sep 1, 2008, at 9:18 PM, James L. Owens wrote: > I believe "Teamster" was a job. or occupational, description. The > Union > wasn't founded until 1903. You can look it up on Google. As far as > I know > the census does not report union membership in any case. > > Jim O. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lois" <lantana@npgcable.com> > To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 8:55 PM > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Rescue of Charles Nalle > > >> I don't think we had labor unions in the 1870s; they were organized >> later when working conditions became an issue during the industrial >> revolution. >> But that is just an opinion; not a known fact. If there was a >> union for >> them, I would also be interested in a roster since my ancestor is >> also >> identified >> as a teamster in Troy in 1880. >> Lois in AZ >> >> gbfurry@comcast.net wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Does anyone know if there is a place to check on a relative >>> listed as a >>> "teamster"in the 1870's? Are there union membership lists for >>> Watervleit/ >>> West Troy available online? >>> >>> Thanks, v >>> >>> -------------- Original message -------------- >>> From: "Bill & Cathy McGrath" <seamus@nycap.rr.com> >>> >>> >>> >>>> The Times Union Newspaper www.timesunion.com for Sunday, August >>>> 31, 2008, >>>> has an >>>> article on Watervliet's connection to the rescue of Charles >>>> Nalle, an >>>> escaped >>>> slave. Story is on Page B1 - The Perspective Section. >>>> >>>> If you want to read a more detailed account of this incident and >>>> see some >>>> interesting photograph's go to the Troy Irish Genealogy site >>>> www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/ click on LOCAL HISTORY and >>>> then click >>>> on >>>> Escaped Slave: Charles Nalle. >>>> >>>> This lengthy article on the TIGS website was excerpted from the >>>> book >>>> Troy's One >>>> Hundred Years - 1789-1889, published in 1891 by William H. >>>> Young, 7 and 9 >>>> First >>>> Street, Troy, NY. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Bill McGrath >>>> Clifton Park, NY >>>> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >>>> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >>>> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>> 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >>> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >>> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH- > GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One more thought on this subject. In New York City Teamsters were known as "carters". It was a pretty tough business and closely regulated by the city. A license was required and heavy fines were assessed for exceeding the "speed limit". Some owned their own rigs and others rented them by the day. Some men owned several rigs and rentd them out to others. Jim O.