Richard, here are some more data re my O'Brien family: 1. My paternal great grandparents were James O'Brien and Mary O'Brien, probably born in Cork or Kilkenny around the 1810s or 1820s. 2. They had 11 daughters and one son (John O'Brien) as follows: Catherine O'Brien, born May 6, 1846, married Thomas Duffy. Thomas was my grandfather. My father was Thomas Francis Duffy, born in Troy on Nov. 30, 1870. Margaret A. O'Brien, born Nov. 1847, married Patrick O'Mara Mary O'Brien, born Mar., 1849, married Henry Patterson/Pattison Alice O'Brien, born about 1850, married John Whelan Anastasia O'Brien, born Apr. 23, 1851, married John J. McKeough Ellen O'Brien, born about 1852, married John Power They remained in Tramore, County Waterford. Her siblings all came to the Troy area. John O'Brien, born Feb., 1853, married Maggie Keeley/Kieley ??? O'Brien, born between 1854 and 1857 Anne O'Brien, born Mar., 1858 and died soon after birth Anna O'Brien, born Jul. 16, 1860, married John Mason and then John Houlihan after Mason's death Johanna O'Brien, born Nov. 18, 1863, marital status unknown Josephine O'Brien, born Apr., 1866, married James McGuire 3. Most of the O'Brien children of James and Mary O'Brien were born in the far south of County Kilkenny along the River Suir in the Roman Catholic Parish of Slieverue across the River Suir from Waterford City. But most of them later lived in the area around Tramore in County Waterford before migrating to America. The Baptismal info on some of them follow with their sponsors' names, which may turn on some lights for you: --- Mary O'Brien, Baptized on March 2, 1847 and sponsored by Michael Wall and Ellen Costelloe. --- Anastasia O'Brien, Baptized on April 23, 1851 and sponsored by Thomas Corcoran and Mary Walsh. --- John O'Brien, Baptized on Feb. 28, 1853 and sponsored by John Baccus and Bridget Shea. --- Anne O'Brien, Baptized on Mar. 29, 1858 and sponsored by Robert Murphy and Mary Hussey. She died soon after birth. --- Anna O'Brien, Baptized on July 17, 1860 and sponsored by Johanna Murphy and John Power. --- Johanna O'Brien, Baptized on Nov. 20, 1863 and sponsored by James Hayden and Bridget Higgins. Enjoy your search! And let m know if you need more of mine. Gerry Duffy