Will you be here this Friday the 30th or the following Friday, 9/6? I think you best bet is to hit the library, the Troy Room on the first floor has excellent resources. The second floor has the microfiche of old newspapers. Kris **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

Don't overlook the National Archives in Pittsfield, MA. It is one of 12 or 13 locations throughout the country with national archives data and/or access. They have helpful volunteers to guide you. They suggested I access Ancestry.com and Family Search/Mormon Center (available free at most libraries/archives) to see if I had any ancestors in the Civil War. I inquired about two that were of age in the 1860 and found severals records about one of them. You can check census reocrds and they will show you how to do it. It is a great place to get started. Ancestry.com provided invaluable help primarliy through ready access to all the census reocrds plus others. The most data I collected was either in the NY State Library (part of NY State Museum) on the 7th and 11th floors or in the Troy Library.. In Albany the NY State Library was very helpful in ading my search and showed me how to look for info, suggest sources and show how to use their equipment. They have records of deaths, births and marriages from about 1880 through about 1954 or so. For all of NY State you can look up each name by year and find out by alphabetic index dates and Certificate numbers for any name you want. While I didn't find every name I searched it probably covered 90 % of the names I sought. I may have missed some or moved the microfiche too quickly to see some. You will need to know the full name and a range of years you think the event occurred. You should have a specific list of people you want to research or you will be overwhelmed with the data and may be ineffeicient looking if you have too big a list. They also have all kinds of details about NY State Census records (taken in 1825 and every 10 years thereafter. They also have directories of various cities though I found more complete records for Troy, Waterford, Watervliet, etc in the Troy Library. Also, in the Troy Library they have newspapers from the early 1800's through recent years to search for obituaries, death notices, marriages, etc. they are very helpful and have a specific room set up for genealogy reasearch. A lot of the data for Troy has been collected and available at the TIGS site and Pat Conners. In the library there are many others sources you can use. You can get much info from these sites and several of the people that run and support the TIGS projects. You can get help from many of the Churches and City Halls. There is a charge of $ 22.00 per official record you request and for key ancestors this is critical. For many events you may be able to get info by various means from these same sources as sometimes one clerk may provide info you need without any formal request. It varies and depends how much data you are looking for. I've been very pleased with all the official documents I got but must note much data was provided by telephone or personal requests. I recently got information on one set of my great grandparents by asking for info on the marriage of these grandparents by knowing the exact date of marriage and place. On the marriage record it listed the maiden name of this one great grandmother which I had not known. I got this info after I said I was after the info for tracing my ancestors but did not need a formal document. They let me look at the official marraige documents index and allowed me to copy the needed info. I offered to pay for it but they said I didn't have to as I only extracted data and they didn't have to really do any work. They kindly said I didn't have to pay anything. From this info I then was able to trace by great grandmother's family thorough an earlier Census search and got all this info. Sometimes this happens, sometimes it doesn't. It is basically hunt and peck and trial and error. Good luck and ask lots of questions at these locations. Have a great day, Mike> From: Kris6851@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:54:48 -0400> To: aefadden@yahoo.com; ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] trip to Troy> > Will you be here this Friday the 30th or the following Friday, 9/6? I think > you best bet is to hit the library, the Troy Room on the first floor has > excellent resources. The second floor has the microfiche of old newspapers.> Kris> > > > **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel > deal here. > (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List===> Did you pay your 2008 Dues?> Troy Irish Genealogy Society> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008

Thanks, that is a lot of help. we will be staying near Pittsfield and I hadn't thought of looking there. My brothers wife is originally from Pittsfield. A.E Fadden “Beware the people who moralize about great issues; moralizing is easier than facing hard facts.” - John Corry --- On Wed, 8/27/08, Michael Rainey <raineymk@msn.com> wrote: From: Michael Rainey <raineymk@msn.com> Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] trip to Troy To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 11:15 PM Don't overlook the National Archives in Pittsfield, MA. It is one of 12 or 13 locations throughout the country with national archives data and/or access. They have helpful volunteers to guide you. They suggested I access Ancestry.com and Family Search/Mormon Center (available free at most libraries/archives) to see if I had any ancestors in the Civil War. I inquired about two that were of age in the 1860 and found severals records about one of them. You can check census reocrds and they will show you how to do it. It is a great place to get started. Ancestry.com provided invaluable help primarliy through ready access to all the census reocrds plus others. The most data I collected was either in the NY State Library (part of NY State Museum) on the 7th and 11th floors or in the Troy Library.. In Albany the NY State Library was very helpful in ading my search and showed me how to look for info, suggest sources and show how to use their equipment. They have records of deaths, births and marriages from about 1880 through about 1954 or so. For all of NY State you can look up each name by year and find out by alphabetic index dates and Certificate numbers for any name you want. While I didn't find every name I searched it probably covered 90 % of the names I sought. I may have missed some or moved the microfiche too quickly to see some. You will need to know the full name and a range of years you think the event occurred. You should have a specific list of people you want to research or you will be overwhelmed with the data and may be ineffeicient looking if you have too big a list. They also have all kinds of details about ! NY State Census records (taken in 1825 and every 10 years thereafter. They also have directories of various cities though I found more complete records for Troy, Waterford, Watervliet, etc in the Troy Library. Also, in the Troy Library they have newspapers from the early 1800's through recent years to search for obituaries, death notices, marriages, etc. they are very helpful and have a specific room set up for genealogy reasearch. A lot of the data for Troy has been collected and available at the TIGS site and Pat Conners. In the library there are many others sources you can use. You can get much info from these sites and several of the people that run and support the TIGS projects. You can get help from many of the Churches and City Halls. There is a charge of $ 22.00 per official record you request and for key ancestors this is critical. For many events you may be able to get info by various means from these same sources as sometimes one clerk may provide info you need without any formal request. It varies and depends how much data you are looking for. I've been very pleased with all the official documents I got but must note much data was provided by telephone or personal requests. I recently got information on one set of my great grandparents by asking for info on the marriage of these grandparents by knowing the exact date of marriage and place. On the marriage record it listed the maiden name of this one great grandmother which I had not known. I got this info after I said I was after the info for tracing my ancestors but did not need a formal document. They let me look at the official marraige documents index and allowed me to copy the ne! eded info. I offered to pay for it but they said I didn't have to as I only extracted data and they didn't have to really do any work. They kindly said I didn't have to pay anything. From this info I then was able to trace by great grandmother's family thorough an earlier Census search and got all this info. Sometimes this happens, sometimes it doesn't. It is basically hunt and peck and trial and error. Good luck and ask lots of questions at these locations. Have a great day, Mike> From: Kris6851@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:54:48 -0400> To: aefadden@yahoo.com; ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] trip to Troy> > Will you be here this Friday the 30th or the following Friday, 9/6? I think > you best bet is to hit the library, the Troy Room on the first floor has > excellent resources. The second floor has the microfiche of old newspapers.> Kris> > > > **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel > deal here. > (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List===> Did you pay your 2008 Dues?> Troy Irish Genealogy Society> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008 ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? 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Thanks to all for the input.   Spent today in Troy, not much of what I needed at the library but enjoyed it any way.   Made two trips from library to St. Peters on foot. Enjoyed the atmoshpere and local color. Even found a shotcut for the second trip. Met several locals all very friendly and helpful. the secretary at the church was helpful and I will followup with her.   Several promising leads yielded nothing useful, but that is nothing new   Wish I had more time,but happy all the same   Thanks again for all the help   A.E Fadden “Beware the people who moralize about great issues; moralizing is easier than facing hard facts.” - John Corry