Although I do not live in Green Island anymore, I do believe some of those surnames are still living there, you could check whitepages.com and see, it is a small town & if you find someone with those last names, they are probably related & you could call or write to them. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn" <cohoes2@juno.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] News article dated April 24, 1913 > Could you give me more information on the families you remember? I have > found one of the women's name in the 1880 census but it was an address in > Troy not Green Island. I don't know who her father , mother or siblings > were. I found Mary Ahearn who was close to my go aunt in age. I have a > feeling they were not found. This really bothers me for some reason. They > were well know in the community and my aunt was engaged to one of the male > survivors. > > Thank you for your response. I think the word melancholy (although I never > have used that word in my life) is appropriate here. I think this is the > most interesting thing about genealogy for me. That the people who came > before me lived lives of struggle and loss and sorrow but somehow survived > because they had the hope that life would somehow get better. > I am also fascinated by them and their sometimes inexplicable behavior. My > grandmother kept changing her name (both first and last name) fortunately > my > mother did leave enough clues behind to trace her in various places. She > was > married twice which did not help matters. > It also seemed to matter very little what name they went under or how it > was > spelled. You can tell they were covering up something but who knows what? > It > is better then reading a good mystery. > > My grandfather's family were listed as running a saloon at 138 George > Street in Green Island and that seems to have lasted 2 generations. I > wonder > if the reasons for doing genealogy are similar? > To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:29 PM > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] News article dated April 24, 1913 > > >> That is a very sad story. I do not recall hearing this one before, >> although >> I grew up in Green Island and my grandparents and their friends >> frequently >> told us about these sorts of things that had happened in the past. I do >> recognize some of the names as being Green Island family names. >> >> Donna >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lynn" <cohoes2@juno.com> >> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:15 PM >> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] News article dated April 24, 1913 >> >> >>> If any of these names are familiar or if anyone wants more information >>> please let me know. I am interested to know if any of the bodies were >>> recovered. I did contact the Troy Library and they could not find an >>> obituary for my great aunt. The article was accompanied with a picture >>> of >>> my aunt and one of the other women who drowned. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Left Behind >>> To: Lynn >>> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:45 AM >>> Subject: Fw: Please send this back to me. >>> >>> >>> From: Lynn >>> To: Kilmelkin@yahoo.com >>> Cc: Ravens and Magpies -- Oh my >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:50 AM >>> Subject: Please send this back to me. >>> >>> >>> My mother really hated her name.I asked her once why her mother had >>> named >>> her Gertrude and she told me that her father's sister had drowned in a >>> boat accident in the Hudson river just before she was born and so she >>> was >>> named after her. >>> >>> In the Sunday Record of June 24, 1984 they re-published the original >>> article (April 24, 1913.) >>> >>> Three persons were drowned and four others had narrow escapes from the >>> same fate this morning when the steam ferry boat, "The Ambrose," running >>> between Troy and Green Island at Douw street went over the state dam at >>> Middleburgh street. >>> The Dead >>> >>> Miss Gertrude Breen, 17 Arch street, Green island, aged 25 years. >>> Miss Nellie Maguire, 162 Paine street, Green island aged 35 years. >>> Miss Mary Ahearn, 36 James street, Green Island aged 26 years. >>> Besides the owner of the boat, William B. Curley, who resides at 20 Douw >>> street, this city, and the three victims there were three men passengers >>> on board, all of whom were rescued. >>> They were: >>> Arthur Jesmain, 168 Hudson avenue, Green Island. >>> Albert Stebbins, who resides in a house boat anchored in the state >>> basin. >>> James M. Williams 156 Hudson avenue, Green Island >>> >>> Happened at 7:00A.M. Mr. Curley, who is captain and pilot , left the >>> Troy >>> side of the river at 6:15 o'clock this morning for his first trip, and >>> because of a heavy fog decided instead of making trips every five >>> minutes >>> as usual to make them every fifteen minutes. Mr. Curley was making his >>> third trip of the morning at the time of the accident and was coming >>> across the river from Green Island to the dock at the foot of douw >>> street >>> where he was scheduled to arrive at 7 o'clock. >>> Over the Dam: >>> Mr. Curley had made the two previous trips without mishap although the >>> fog >>> was dense and he could not see. He usually sent the boat in a sort of >>> half >>> circle to the north in order to avoid getting too close the the state >>> dam. >>> and thought he was doing so on his third trip. There was no intimation >>> that the boat was getting near the dam until Mr. Curley heard the noise >>> of >>> the rushing water. He then threw out his anchor, but it was too late, >>> the >>> current being very swift, and before the passengers could be warned the >>> boat went over the dam carrying the occupants with it. (Note:Mr Curley >>> also stated in another part of the article that he had put his compass >>> next to the boiler and evidentially was getting an incorrect reading.) >>> No time for Life Belts: >>> The boat was equipped with life belts which were tied together, but >>> there >>> was no time to get at them. Some of them were found later >>> floating near the dam.The ferry boat turned almost on end and a portion >>> of >>> the stern only is visible just south of the dam. The ware is twelve feet >>> deep at the foot of the dam and three feet of water is running over the >>> crest of the dam. There is shoal about ten feet from the boat where the >>> water is only about three feet deep when the tide is out. At the time of >>> the accident the tide was in. >>> Caught in the Cabin: >>> The women passengers, because of the fog, went into the cabin of the >>> boat >>> after boarding it at Green Island .The men were outside on deck. The >>> women >>> had no fear of the fog, because they had been passengers on the ferry >>> boat >>> almost every day except Sunday, since Mr. Curley first started to run >>> it, >>> and last summer had often crossed when it was very foggy. When the boat >>> this morning struck the dam the men jumped but it is thought the women >>> remained in the cabin and after the boat settled in the river the strong >>> current carried their bodies down the river. >>> >>> As soon as the fog had lifted a number of boats were put out near the >>> foot >>> of the dam and attempts made to locate the bodies. Riverment stated that >>> that the strong current would carry the bodies down the river and that >>> they would probably be found a long distance from the dam.Captain Powers >>> of the Third precinct station detailed Officers Trainor and McCarthy to >>> the scene. The men put out in a boat,and near Rock Island found a hat >>> and >>> a kid gloves floating on the water. The had was of black straw, sailor >>> pattern, and was trimmed with a black velvet bow. The glove was of brown >>> kid and was for the right hand. They were evidentially the property of >>> one >>> of the unfortunate girls. >>> >>> Other information on the 3 women was that they attended St. Joseph's in >>> Green Island.They were going to work that morning to Cluet and >>> Peabody's. >>> My great aunt Gertrude was engaged to be married to one of the men on >>> the >>> boat who survived the accident. I asked the Troy library to find >>> Gertrude's obituary and they could not find one. I do not know whether >>> or >>> not her body or the bodies of the other women were found.This news item >>> was published in national newspapers as far away as Texas. >>> One last sad note,I discovered on a census document that Gertrude's >>> mother >>> (my great grandmother) had five children and the record showed that only >>> two had survived:my grandfather and Gertrude. 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