Hi Jim, Thanks for the information about the designation of the Ulster Scots as Irish. I knew they were in earlier days, but didn't know they ever differentiated between them. I'm sure you're right - it was to identify the Presbyterians. The other thing I've encountered is that Irish in this country often had Great Britain or England as their birthplace in the U. S. census, even when they were born in Ireland. I guess because they were considered British by the census taker. One of my daughter-in-law's family had it that way in the first two, then had IRISH FREE STATE in caps in the last one of them I found. I'm sure they insisted the census taker put it that way, since the rest of the sheet is in lower case, except for normal caps. Marianne On Oct 4, 2008, at 9:07 PM, James L. Owens wrote: > Marianne, > > Until around the 1850's everyone from Ireland, Ulster Scots and > those from > the rest of Ireland were all "Irish". After that time the label > Scots-Irish > or Ulster Scots came into use. The purpose was apparently to > differentiate > between the Presbyterians and the Catholics. I can locate the > reference for > that if you are interested. > > Jim O. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marianne Arnold" <mamearnold@jetbroadband.com> > To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 10:04 AM > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] A Research Surprise: Seeing > Ireland > fromAlaska > > > Hi Mary Lee, > Actually my husband isn't Irish. I have his family way back - some to > the 1400s - and unless you count Ulster Scots, I haven't turned up a > single Irishman or woman. I, on the other hand, am about 3/4 Irish, > of the starving famine kind. > > He is descended from some of the same early New England puritans and > quakers that Sarah Palin is. Parkhurst, Leete, Rice and Frost, and > probably one of those Carters. > > I do have a Burke line, so that's a possibility for me. Given my > druthers though, I'd just as soon pass! My daughter says, "If anyone > asks, I'm adopted"! Marianne > > > On Oct 3, 2008, at 3:18 PM, maryldunn@aol.com wrote: > >> >> Hi, Marianne, >> >> Which lines are they related through? Are they Roscommon lines? >> Interesting. >> >> FYI, later yesterday I was interviewed by the Irish Times and they >> had a story in today's paper, which is on-line at http:// >> www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/ >> 2008/1003/1222959305923.html. Just google the paper's name. And >> then that led to an interview on RTE's radio program Morning >> Ireland last evening and that too is on-line at their website: >> rte.ie. >> >> I didn't post about them since nobody had posted to my earlier note >> so I thought there was little or no interest, which seemed strange >> with John McEneny addressing Ballykilcline, in part, at this >> month's meeting. Or that the debate itself was too distracting. I >> was going to try to attend TIGS' October meeting but a family >> member will be visiting, so I won't be there. Maybe sometime down >> the road. >> >> Indeed it was hectic yesterday! >> >> Mary Lee >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Marianne Arnold <mamearnold@jetbroadband.com> >> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 2:37 pm >> Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] A Research Surprise: Seeing >> Ireland from Alaska >> >> >> >> Dear Mary Lee, thanks for this information. I've been having all sort >> f fun with my husband's family - they are related to Sarah about six >> imes over. They are not happy campers! Marianne Arnold. >> n Oct 2, 2008, at 5:32 PM, maryldunn@aol.com wrote: >>> Fellow Researchers, >> >> I had a news essay about Sarah Palin’s roots in Ireland published in >> this week’s edition of The Irish Echo, poste >> d at www.irishecho.com >> (page 8). Working with her on-line lineage posted and updated at >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~battle/palin.htm, >> help from Rutland researchers, and the databases I developed in >> researching Ballykilcline Rising, I learned that her immigrant Irish >> ancestor came out of the same conflicted terrain described in my >> book >> -- from the townland across a narrow country road from >> Ballykilcline -- >> and went to Rutland, Vermont, before going west. >> >> Mary Lee Dunn >> >> PS Thanks to Peter Patten, Barbara Grenier, and Rosemary Vandenburg >> for >> help with this research and the genealogists -- Robert Battle, Tom >> Brown, William Reitwiesner, Gary Boyd Roberts, and Michael Hurdle -- >> who contributed to the posted on-line lineage. >> >> >> >> >> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH- >> GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ==NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >> id you pay your 2008 Dues? >> roy Irish Genealogy Society >> ttp://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >> ------------------------------ >> o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH- >> GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com >> ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of >> he message >> >> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH- >> GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH- > GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message