None of the names listed are familiar with the exception of Johanna. I have seen it somewhere and will try to jog my memory. It was not pertinent to my search but I thought it an uncommon name for an Irish woman. I think it might have been the Canada census of 1881. Not sure...I think it was in a domicile close to a Michael Shea. I will try to find the Cohoes book in a bookstore and check the names of the Shea women whose pictures appear in that book. Many Irish came to this country through Canada. You would know if the dates cited were accurate. I found the Canada census on the family search run site by the LDS church. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Alice Mangan" <MalteseMom@sc.rr.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:36 AM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] My O'Briens of Troy > My great-great-grandparents were John O'Brien and Johanna Shea/Shay, both > born in Ireland although exact location is unknown. One or both of them > may have died in Ireland. I did locate a Mrs. Johanna O'Brien, > housekeeper, who lived on Fourth Street in South Troy. She is buried in an > unmarked grave in St. Joseph's Cemetery. She is buried there alone and she > is the sole plot owner so I am unable to determine for certain if she is > Johanna Shea O'Brien. > > Known children (all believed to be born in Ireland) were: > > Catherine, b. prior to 1850, married Jeremiah McNamara/Mack > > Johanna, b. 1850(?), married John Joseph Mangan (my great-grandparents) > > Dennis, b. 1852(?), married Catherine Clancy > > "Brother", (first name unknown), b. 18??. Wife's name unknown. 1 known son > named John. > > ************************* > > This young John O'Brien (son of Brother) was most likely the fellow who > served as pallbearer for his aunt, Catherine Clancy O'Brien, in 1923. The > latest I find him in Troy is February, 1938 when he served as pallbearer > for his first cousin, Elizabeth Mack Kelley. This particular John O'Brien > was alluded to in a previous post...just wanted to clarify that he is in > my O'Brien family. > > M. Alice Mangan > Okatie, SC > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ____________________________________________________________ Book your next cruise vacation today! Click now to find the best prices. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nL6YmtZqmahAcGLsfIWfFr2Ffqgc3lfVrUihU5DRr1bIFhj/

Lynn: Johanna is a very common Irish name for a woman, it is the way it appears often in the baptismal and marriage records. It is simply the full form of Hannah. Marianne Arnold On Jul 31, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Lynn wrote: > None of the names listed are familiar with the exception of > Johanna. I have > seen it somewhere and will try to jog my memory. It was not > pertinent to my > search but I thought it an uncommon name for an Irish woman. I > think it > might have been the Canada census of 1881. Not sure...I think it > was in a > domicile close to a Michael Shea. I will try to find the Cohoes > book in a > bookstore and check the names of the Shea women whose pictures > appear in > that book. Many Irish came to this country through Canada. You > would know if > the dates cited were accurate. I found the Canada census on the family > search run site by the LDS church. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M. Alice Mangan" <MalteseMom@sc.rr.com> > To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:36 AM > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] My O'Briens of Troy > > >> My great-great-grandparents were John O'Brien and Johanna Shea/ >> Shay, both >> born in Ireland although exact location is unknown. One or both of >> them >> may have died in Ireland. I did locate a Mrs. Johanna O'Brien, >> housekeeper, who lived on Fourth Street in South Troy. She is >> buried in an >> unmarked grave in St. Joseph's Cemetery. She is buried there alone >> and she >> is the sole plot owner so I am unable to determine for certain if >> she is >> Johanna Shea O'Brien. >> >> Known children (all believed to be born in Ireland) were: >> >> Catherine, b. prior to 1850, married Jeremiah McNamara/Mack >> >> Johanna, b. 1850(?), married John Joseph Mangan (my great- >> grandparents) >> >> Dennis, b. 1852(?), married Catherine Clancy >> >> "Brother", (first name unknown), b. 18??. Wife's name unknown. 1 >> known son >> named John. >> >> ************************* >> >> This young John O'Brien (son of Brother) was most likely the >> fellow who >> served as pallbearer for his aunt, Catherine Clancy O'Brien, in >> 1923. The >> latest I find him in Troy is February, 1938 when he served as >> pallbearer >> for his first cousin, Elizabeth Mack Kelley. This particular John >> O'Brien >> was alluded to in a previous post...just wanted to clarify that he >> is in >> my O'Brien family. >> >> M. Alice Mangan >> Okatie, SC >> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Book your next cruise vacation today! Click now to find the best > prices. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/ > Ioyw6i3nL6YmtZqmahAcGLsfIWfFr2Ffqgc3lfVrUihU5DRr1bIFhj/ > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH- > GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here's the only info I know about the O'Brien's in our family tree.  After Joseph James O'Brien's death, Mary Ann (his wife, my g.g.grandmother) married William Clancy (my g.g.grandfather).   ~ Pam   Descendants of Joseph James O'Brien   Generation No. 1 1. Joseph James2 O'Brien (Michael1) was born 1854 in Ireland, and died in Troy, NY. He married Mary Ann O'Brien Hogan, daughter of John Hogan and Elizabeth Sheehan. She was born December 21, 1864 in Troy, NY, and died May 16, 1941 in Troy, New York. Notes for Mary Ann O'Brien Hogan: 1917 listed as widow at 65 Ingalls Avenue 1908 listed at 14 Orr Street The funeral of Mrs. Mary Ann Clancy, was conducted from the residence (61 Ingalls Avenue) this morning and later from St. Patricks Church where Rev. Leo P. Brady celebrated a requiem high mass. Walter B. Chippendale presided at the organ. James A. Murray and Mrs. Mary Murray Ryan rendered "Miserere" at the processional and "Hark Hark my Soul" at the conclusion of the mass. Mr. Murray sang "O Salvtaris" at the offertory and Mrs. Ryan rendered "on the Reserrection Morn" at the ressional. Bearers, all relatives, were Richard Sheehan, James Dwyer, John Powers, Peter Masterson, George Augustal and Joseph Cassidy. Interment was in the family plot in St. Peters Cemetery where Rev. Father Brady officiated. DATED: Monday, May 19, 1941 Buried in Lot #2171 (Edward Clancy) DEATH CERTIFICATE: AGE 76, 4MO, 25 DAY; dob 12/21/1864; DOD: MAY 16, 1941' PARENTS: JOHN HOGAN (ireland) ELIZABETH SHEEHAN (troy) informant: Edward clancy, 61 Ingalls Ave More About Mary Ann O'Brien Hogan: Burial: May 19, 1941, St. Peter's Cemetery, Troy, NY - lot 2171 Cause of Death: Acute Cardiac Failure Medical Information: due to hypertension/chronic myocarditis Children of Joseph O'Brien and Mary Hogan are: 2 i. Elizabeth3 O'Brien, born May 12, 1886 in Troy, NY. More About Elizabeth O'Brien: Baptism: May 16, 1886, St. Patrick's Church, Troy, NY Baptism Sponsors: John Delany & ? O'Brien 3 ii. Joseph Michael O'Brien, born March 16, 1884 in Troy, NY. More About Joseph Michael O'Brien: Baptism: March 25, 1884, St. Patrick's Church, Troy, NY 4 iii. Mary Ellen O'Brien, born February 19, 1882 in Troy, NY. More About Mary Ellen O'Brien: Baptism: February 26, 1882, St. Patrick's Church, Troy, NY Baptism Sponsors: Joseph Bradt & Mary Anne O'Brien

I guess that it just is not common in the investigations I have made. My family are Marys, Kathleens, Bridgets, Maureens, Patricias, and quite a few Ellens. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marianne Arnold" <mamearnold@jetbroadband.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] My O'Briens of Troy > Lynn: Johanna is a very common Irish name for a woman, it is the way > it appears often in the baptismal and marriage records. It is simply > the full form of Hannah. Marianne Arnold > On Jul 31, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Lynn wrote: > >> None of the names listed are familiar with the exception of >> Johanna. I have >> seen it somewhere and will try to jog my memory. It was not >> pertinent to my >> search but I thought it an uncommon name for an Irish woman. I >> think it >> might have been the Canada census of 1881. Not sure...I think it >> was in a >> domicile close to a Michael Shea. I will try to find the Cohoes >> book in a >> bookstore and check the names of the Shea women whose pictures >> appear in >> that book. Many Irish came to this country through Canada. You >> would know if >> the dates cited were accurate. I found the Canada census on the family >> search run site by the LDS church. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "M. Alice Mangan" <MalteseMom@sc.rr.com> >> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:36 AM >> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] My O'Briens of Troy >> >> >>> My great-great-grandparents were John O'Brien and Johanna Shea/ >>> Shay, both >>> born in Ireland although exact location is unknown. One or both of >>> them >>> may have died in Ireland. I did locate a Mrs. Johanna O'Brien, >>> housekeeper, who lived on Fourth Street in South Troy. She is >>> buried in an >>> unmarked grave in St. Joseph's Cemetery. She is buried there alone >>> and she >>> is the sole plot owner so I am unable to determine for certain if >>> she is >>> Johanna Shea O'Brien. >>> >>> Known children (all believed to be born in Ireland) were: >>> >>> Catherine, b. prior to 1850, married Jeremiah McNamara/Mack >>> >>> Johanna, b. 1850(?), married John Joseph Mangan (my great- >>> grandparents) >>> >>> Dennis, b. 1852(?), married Catherine Clancy >>> >>> "Brother", (first name unknown), b. 18??. Wife's name unknown. 1 >>> known son >>> named John. >>> >>> ************************* >>> >>> This young John O'Brien (son of Brother) was most likely the >>> fellow who >>> served as pallbearer for his aunt, Catherine Clancy O'Brien, in >>> 1923. The >>> latest I find him in Troy is February, 1938 when he served as >>> pallbearer >>> for his first cousin, Elizabeth Mack Kelley. This particular John >>> O'Brien >>> was alluded to in a previous post...just wanted to clarify that he >>> is in >>> my O'Brien family. >>> >>> M. Alice Mangan >>> Okatie, SC >>> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >>> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >>> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Book your next cruise vacation today! Click now to find the best >> prices. >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/ >> Ioyw6i3nL6YmtZqmahAcGLsfIWfFr2Ffqgc3lfVrUihU5DRr1bIFhj/ >> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH- >> GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ____________________________________________________________ Click here to save cash and find low rates on auto loans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ndyITb8mOLqEi3861PJTwlAx1WJyfguCGL6t01nHQhoqE0N/