Our next meeting will be Thursday August 21 at The Ilium Cafe, located at 9 Broadway Troy (at Second Street). 6:30 pm start. You need not be a member to attend. Please do RSVP by Tuesday 08/19 if at all possible to gerrisherry@outlook.com. Hope to see you there.

The TIGS website, www.troyirish.com has some history and a list of names of those buried in the Nail Factory Cemetery. Click on PROJECTS and then THE NAIL FACTORY CEMETERY. Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY Sent from my iPad

http://vufind.uhls.org/vufind/Record/255355/Holdings#tabnav could this help. -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Connors via Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 1:34 PM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Nail Factory Cemetery Chris, first of all, thank you for all the work you are doing with the cemeteries in and around Troy. You work is invaluable to us family researchers. I am just wondering if there is a list of who is buried in this cemetery (Nail Factory). Thanks again, Pat -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com nymets22@gmail.com ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Earl. could this help. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat > Connors > via > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 1:34 PM > To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Nail Factory Cemetery > > Chris, first of all, thank you for all the work you are doing with the > cemeteries in and around Troy. You work is invaluable to us family > researchers. I am just wondering if there is a list of who is buried in > this cemetery (Nail Factory). > > Thanks, but I am in California, was hoping the records were online. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com nymets22@gmail.com

Chris, first of all, thank you for all the work you are doing with the cemeteries in and around Troy. You work is invaluable to us family researchers. I am just wondering if there is a list of who is buried in this cemetery (Nail Factory). Thanks again, Pat -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com nymets22@gmail.com

The Aug 16-17 Civil War Heritage Days event will be a great opportunity for TIGS to host an information table (like we do annually at RCHS for the Victorian Stroll) . If you are able to stop by for an hour or more to help on Saturday (or Sunday), please contact me directly: christine.connell@gmail.com Here's more info about this weekend's events (worth a visit even if you can't work the TIGS table). Schedule to follow. The annual Civil War Heritage Days event is happening on Saturday-Sunday (Aug 16-17) where Schuyler Flatts Park, located in Menands, NY, will be transformed into a small civil war encampment in the time of 1864. You'll be able to watch a battle rage in the open field, with cannon fire and mounted cavalry units in battle and military exercises. You can visit both Union and Confederate camps and experience the daily life of a soldier during the Civil War. The re-enactment is one of the larger of its kind in New York State with over 100 re-enactors, both military and civilian. There will be period music concerts, period clothing demonstrations and depictions of all aspects of daily life during the time of war. There will also be many different educational booths from local historian groups and museums from around NYS.

1861 Map showing Nail Factory Cemetery http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47e3-4f37-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99 1861 Map showing Nail Factory Cemetery overlaid on Google Satellite image https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Mt-S77wZKfXzdaa3lCWl9Zakk/edit?usp=sharing 1881 Map showing Nail Factory Cemetery http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47e3-68ab-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99 1881 Map showing Nail Factory Cemetery overlaid on Google Satellite image https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Mt-S77wZKfSTluSlF0ZTZxQkk/edit?usp=sharing It’s hard to be sure, given imprecision of old maps, and the imprecision involved in trying to overlay them on a satellite image, but the eastern line of the cemetery seems to be about in line with the east side of red-roofed buildings, and the cemetery’s southern boundary may have been right behind those buildings. The northern boundary may have been about in line with Lark Street, and the western boundary is less clear - possibly corresponds to where the trees end and the clearing starts on the satellite image. Chris

Chris, Thank you for posting about Nail Factory. I'm trying to see where the burial ground was (is). I'm interested in this cemetery. Kathy Sent from my iPad > On Aug 9, 2014, at 11:05 PM, Christopher Philippo via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > My collection of info about Troy cemeteries, mostly news items from Troy newspapers, is up over 500 pages. I used Createspace.com to have a couple copies printed as book proofs and they look pretty good. There's still a lot of work to be done before they're worth actually offering for sale. I'll bring it along to the TIGS meeting later this month. > > One item recently found, regarding the Nail Factory Cemetery: > > "Cows and pigs continue to roam over the graves in the old sixth ward burial ground. The fence recently ordered by the common council has not yet been begun." > "From the Southern Section." Troy Daily Times. November 21, 1883: 3 col 3. >  > In other news, I learned recently of the Town of Lincoln, Rensselaer County. It was proposed in 1866 to be created from parts of Lansingburgh, Schaghticoke, and Pittstown and the bill to create it passed the NYS Assembly unanimously. It died in the Senate. I think it was an attempt by the towns of the county to gain more power through numbers relative to the City of Troy, but I’m not sure. I then found that in 1879 there was a bill to create a town of North Lansingburgh from Lansingburgh, Schaghticoke, Pittstown, and Brunswick. It looks like it passed the Assembly, though not unanimously, and made it to the second reading in the Senate but then seems to have died in committee. I'll have to check at the State Library to see if they have copies of the bills, which might indicate the boundaries the towns would have had. I don't think sponsor's memos for failed bills are kept, and even ones for bill that did pass from that long ago I think are long gone. > > Chris Philippo > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My collection of info about Troy cemeteries, mostly news items from Troy newspapers, is up over 500 pages. I used Createspace.com to have a couple copies printed as book proofs and they look pretty good. There's still a lot of work to be done before they're worth actually offering for sale. I'll bring it along to the TIGS meeting later this month. One item recently found, regarding the Nail Factory Cemetery: "Cows and pigs continue to roam over the graves in the old sixth ward burial ground. The fence recently ordered by the common council has not yet been begun." "From the Southern Section." Troy Daily Times. November 21, 1883: 3 col 3.  In other news, I learned recently of the Town of Lincoln, Rensselaer County. It was proposed in 1866 to be created from parts of Lansingburgh, Schaghticoke, and Pittstown and the bill to create it passed the NYS Assembly unanimously. It died in the Senate. I think it was an attempt by the towns of the county to gain more power through numbers relative to the City of Troy, but I’m not sure. I then found that in 1879 there was a bill to create a town of North Lansingburgh from Lansingburgh, Schaghticoke, Pittstown, and Brunswick. It looks like it passed the Assembly, though not unanimously, and made it to the second reading in the Senate but then seems to have died in committee. I'll have to check at the State Library to see if they have copies of the bills, which might indicate the boundaries the towns would have had. I don't think sponsor's memos for failed bills are kept, and even ones for bill that did pass from that long ago I think are long gone. Chris Philippo

Very interesting, thanks for transcribing and posting. Lots of work ! Amy La Pietra -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Philippo via Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:53 PM To: TIGS Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] "Troy's Tombs" Troy Daily Times November 12, 1879 > Troy's Tombs > The Silent Sepulchers of 45,000 Dead. > The Forgotten Burial-Places of the First Inhabitants. > The Memorial Monuments of the Old Burial Grounds. > The Peculiar Personages of By-Gone Years. > The History of the Different Cemeteries in the City. > The Funerals of the Last Century. > Record of Deaths and Burials for Forty-five Years. "Troy's Tombs." Troy Daily Times. November 12, 1879 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Mt-S77wZKfcUpfc1dMbVZsclE/edit?usp=sharin g It's quite a long newspaper article - my transcription of it runs over thirteen pages. The NYS Library in Albany had a folder on the shelf with the article, though it seems to be missing part of a segment about Oakwood Cemetery. I'll have to check a microfilm reel of the whole newspaper. Chris Philippo ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Christopher, Thank you for posting this article. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Investigating/ researching the cemetaries in Troy has always been of interest to me. Kathy Sent from my iPad On Aug 1, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Christopher Philippo via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Troy’s Tombs >> The Silent Sepulchers of 45,000 Dead. >> The Forgotten Burial-Places of the First Inhabitants. >> The Memorial Monuments of the Old Burial Grounds. >> The Peculiar Personages of By-Gone Years. >> The History of the Different Cemeteries in the City. >> The Funerals of the Last Century. >> Record of Deaths and Burials for Forty-five Years. > > “Troy's Tombs.” Troy Daily Times. November 12, 1879 > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Mt-S77wZKfcUpfc1dMbVZsclE/edit?usp=sharing > > It’s quite a long newspaper article - my transcription of it runs over thirteen pages. > > The NYS Library in Albany had a folder on the shelf with the article, though it seems to be missing part of a segment about Oakwood Cemetery. I’ll have to check a microfilm reel of the whole newspaper. > > Chris Philippo > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Troy’s Tombs > The Silent Sepulchers of 45,000 Dead. > The Forgotten Burial-Places of the First Inhabitants. > The Memorial Monuments of the Old Burial Grounds. > The Peculiar Personages of By-Gone Years. > The History of the Different Cemeteries in the City. > The Funerals of the Last Century. > Record of Deaths and Burials for Forty-five Years. “Troy's Tombs.” Troy Daily Times. November 12, 1879 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Mt-S77wZKfcUpfc1dMbVZsclE/edit?usp=sharing It’s quite a long newspaper article - my transcription of it runs over thirteen pages. The NYS Library in Albany had a folder on the shelf with the article, though it seems to be missing part of a segment about Oakwood Cemetery. I’ll have to check a microfilm reel of the whole newspaper. Chris Philippo

Thanks to our new officers: Gerri, Christine, Kelly, Lizette, Kathy, Jeanne and Donna.  Without you we wouldn't be TIGS!  Sally Finley Harloff  On Saturday, July 26, 2014 10:14 AM, Timothy Stone via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: Well it looks like even thou I stated the election winners at the TIGS meetings.  It's not official until I email it.  Thanks to everyone who ran.  Your new officers are stated below. President - Gerri Sherri Vice President - Christine Connell Secretary - Kelly Grimaldi Treasurer - Lizette Strait TIGS List Administrator - Bradford Miter.  Brad was unable to continue as List Administrator and Kathy Buckley will finish his term. TIGS Webmaster - Jeanne Keefe Membership Chairperson - Donna Vaughn Tim ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**.  See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well it looks like even thou I stated the election winners at the TIGS meetings. It's not official until I email it. Thanks to everyone who ran. Your new officers are stated below. President - Gerri Sherri Vice President - Christine Connell Secretary - Kelly Grimaldi Treasurer - Lizette Strait TIGS List Administrator - Bradford Miter. Brad was unable to continue as List Administrator and Kathy Buckley will finish his term. TIGS Webmaster - Jeanne Keefe Membership Chairperson - Donna Vaughn Tim

Hi, All, The government addresses this issue in a letter to the Irish Times today. Here's the link: http://www.irishtimes.com/debate/letters/genealogy-and-protecting-data-1.1878388 Best to All, Mary Lee Dunn -----Original Message----- From: Rich Nichols via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> To: TIGS mailing list <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jul 25, 2014 5:52 pm Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Irish Genealogy It seems that the Irish gov't is shutting down the ability to some genealogical research. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/21/ireland-shuts-government-genealogy-personal-data-concerns Rich Nichols ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

“In 1811, the Cohoes Manufacturing Company, composed entirely of gentlemen from Lansingburg, was incorporated, being one of the first corporations formed under the ‘general act’ of that year. A tract of sixty acres on the bank of the river, which was part of the Heamstreet farm[fn 1], together with the water privilege, was secured, and land was also purchased from Jacobus Van Schoonhoven on the opposite site of the river, embracing what is now known as Simmons’s Island.” “[Fn 1] This tract, known for some years as the Factory lot, and which afterward came into possession of the Cohoes Company, comprised all that part of the Heamstreet farm which lay east of Mohawk street, down to a point near Columbia street.” Masten, Arthur H. The History of Cohoes, New York, From its Earliest Settlement to the Present Time. Albany, NY: Joel Munsell, 1872. 37. http://books.google.com/books?id=6BgzAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA37 Simmons Island is the tiny island west of Van Schaick Island where St. Michael’s R.C. Church, U-Haul and the Ukrainian-American Citizens Club are and where Golden Krust Bakery used to be before it burned. The Simmons Family Cemetery in Cohoes, incidentally, is not in very good shape: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=2546624 The Cohoes City Cemetery on Columbia Street (now West End Park) that was reinterred on the east side of Union Cemetery in Crescent had been turned over to the city by the Cohoes Company. It seems at least possible that people from Lansingburgh had been buried there. Masten’s book includes a selective necrology, concentrating primarily on very old or prominent men of Cohoes. One of the men in Cohoes’ cemetery in Crescent is in the necrology: “1849. Jan. 4, John Jackson, aged 78. Mr. J. was a native of Glasgow, Scotland, and an old resident of Cohoes” (Masten 1872, 268). http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=132996968 Someone who had been buried in the Columbia Street Cemetery, probably reinterred to Crescent, was Andrew Paisley from Ireland: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=133245374 I found a couple St. Patrick’s Day toasts he gave, e.g.: “The State of New-York—She receives Irishmen into her bosom, and Ireland breeds no vipers.” Albany Evening Journal. March 22, 1833: 2 col 5. Scotsman William Leckie (1819-1876) and his family, buried at Mount Ida Cemetery on Pawling Avenue in Troy, seem to have been from Cohoes - his father Robert reportedly one of the earliest settlers of Cohoes: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=115845330 Some family member must have had a Troy connection to be buried in Mount Ida. One wonders how many other people in the Cohoes necrology might be buried in Troy. Chris

It seems that the Irish gov't is shutting down the ability to some genealogical research.  http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/21/ireland-shuts-government-genealogy-personal-data-concerns Rich Nichols

I was at the meeting yesterday with Mayor George Primeau, Corporation Council Greg Teresi, Halfmoon resident Sue Halliday, Halfmoon Historian Ellen Kennedy, Crescent Union Cemetery President Tom Ballard, and other trustees of the cemetery at City Hall. The Mayor indicated they would do some more work there. However, it’s unlikely that the entire Cohoes section will be cleared until some unspecified date in the future (leaving it an open question as to whether it will ever happen). It’s partly due to Cohoes’ finances, but unsettled questions about the cemetery don’t help. It seems that Cohoes owns their own cemetery adjacent to Union Cemetery on land they’d bought from Union Cemetery, rather than Cohoes owning a section of Union Cemetery, but I’m not sure if Cohoes would agree with that interpretation or not. It’s unclear how much of the land was actually used for burials. Cohoes took the position that there were no records of burials but I think it’s possible some records still exist somewhere - they did at one time. The records had been good enough they could identify remains in unmarked graves from the location they were found in the old Cohoes City Cemetery on Columbia Street. "Yesterday some men employed in exhuming the remains from the old cemetery came across the petrified body of a man. It was in lot No. 425, section No. 5. A reference to the original map and the record of deeds proves it to be the remains of William Brown who was buried in October, 1845. He was a shoemaker by trade and the old residents may remember him.” “Found a Petrified Body.” Cohoes Republican. June 24, 1896: 1 col 1. By the terms of a law passed by the NYS Legislature and Governor, Cohoes was supposed to move and reset grave markers, and to supply grave markers for all unmarked graves other than those for reinterments of potters’ field burials. “All remains removed by said common council as hereinbefore provided shall be reinterred in the lands to be purchased by the city of Cohoes in one or more existing cemeteries as hereinafter provided, and all monuments, slabs, stones or other marks of their burial place shall be well reset in their proper place so as to preserve the identity of each, and in case there is no present mark distinguishing the person buried, said common council shall cause to be placed on the lot or grave to which the remains are transferred, a wooden or stone slab on which shall be marked the number or other designation of the lot in the burial grounds from which the body or bodies were exhumed, but this provision shall not apply to the graves in which are interred the bodies of the indigent poor heretofore interred at the expense of the city of Cohoes.” L. 1889, ch. 192 § 8. The Mayor said he hasn’t received one phone call about the cemetery, so it might help if he did (particularly from anyone living in or formerly a resident of or having a connection to Cohoes). Thank him for having begun cleaning it up and express hope that he’ll finish the job and perhaps diligently search for any surviving records at City Hall (offices of the City Historian, City Clerk, City Engineer, City Comptroller, Public Works: Streets etc.) Albany County coroner’s office, and perhaps put a call out to local churches, funeral homes, individuals for any records they might have pertaining to the reinterments or later potters field burials handled by the City of Cohoes there. The city had a folder on the cemetery, but I would bet The forerunner of the Comptroller, the Chamberlain, among other things had to handle the cemetery bonds used to cover the cost of reinterments and damages settled on with lot owners of the Columbia Street Cemetery for loss of their land there. The Streets Department in conjunction with the (no longer extant) City of Cohoes Cemetery Committee handled the reinterments. The City Engineer surveyed the property, copied the map of the old Columbia Street Cemetery, and had also been a member of the City of Cohoes Cemetery Committee. Chris

A follow-up to the July 14 story on the Cohoes graves in Halfmoon was published in the TU on Thursday: http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Churchill-Cleanup-of-forgotten-graves-halted-by-5642569.php Albany County Sheriff Craig Apple <http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Craig+Apple%22> sent inmates to clear a portion of the forgotten cemetery. The work would be continuing today, if the mayor of Cohoes hadn't asked that it stop. "I told them to hold off until we know what's going on up there," (said) Mayor George Primeau <http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22George+Primeau%22> The mayor said he hasn't closed the door on continuing to clear the land. He said he'll settle on a course of action after meeting Thursday with Halliday and Tom Ballard <http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Tom+Ballard%22>, the president of Union Cemetery. *But he's certainly leaning toward leaving the cemetery alone.* "Sometimes death is harder on the living than the dead," Primeau said. "We'll always remember that they are up there, and we'll say a prayer for them. It is what it is."

Hi Brad, I’d like to thank you for all your help with my many problems on RR. You were always so willing to help and, quick to respond to my “complaints.” Thanks for the wonderful job you provided for TIGS. Jan Sullivan