Watervliet Historical Society August Meeting - August 18, 2014 7:00PM at the Watervliet Senior Citizens Center (1501 Broadway) President Tom Ragosta will give a presentation on “Life in West Troy in the year 1881” Erie canal activity going through West Troy was at its greatest volume resulting in great prosperity for the village.

News coverage & photos for Civil War Heritage Days, continuing today at Schuyler Flatts park in Menands: http://www.troyrecord.com/lifestyle/20140817/union-confederate-civil-war-re-enactors-set-up-camp-at-schuyler-flatts-park-in-menands http://media.troyrecord.com/2014/08/16/photos-from-civil-war-heritage-day/

Hi Gerri, Noreen and I lento attend the meeting on Thursday……Jan Sullivan On Aug 12, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Gerri Sherry via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Christine Connell has secured for us an opportunity for a Walking Tour of Albany Rural Cemetery led by Mark Bodner. > > We'll discuss further at next week's meeting, but some dates to consider are drawing near and it's recommended we get on Mr. Bodner's Calendar if we'd like to tour in August. > > Being mindful we don't clog up the RootsWeb List - if you are likely to attend, please briefly let us know which of the following date(s) are best for you. > Walking tour runs approximately two hours. > > Saturday Aug 23 10am-Noon > Sunday Aug 24 1-3pm > > Saturday Aug 30 10am-Noon > Sunday Aug 31 1-3pm > > September is not available. Personally, I think early October would be a lovely time for a Rural Tour. > > Cheers, Gerri > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chris, Thanks so much for all the good info. I love the map of South Troy. My Sweeney/Brady family lived there and I have been trying to figure out which houses up Stow Ave were in North Greenbush in 1860. This map shows the line. Love it. If you look on google earth and squint at the woods where Woodside was you can still see the garden circles and paths. Cool ! Amy La Pietra -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Philippo via Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 11:06 PM To: TIGS Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] articles about Troy cemeteries; Towns of Lincoln & North Lansingburgh, Rensselaer County My collection of info about Troy cemeteries, mostly news items from Troy newspapers, is up over 500 pages. I used Createspace.com to have a couple copies printed as book proofs and they look pretty good. There's still a lot of work to be done before they're worth actually offering for sale. I'll bring it along to the TIGS meeting later this month. One item recently found, regarding the Nail Factory Cemetery: "Cows and pigs continue to roam over the graves in the old sixth ward burial ground. The fence recently ordered by the common council has not yet been begun." "From the Southern Section." Troy Daily Times. November 21, 1883: 3 col 3.  In other news, I learned recently of the Town of Lincoln, Rensselaer County. It was proposed in 1866 to be created from parts of Lansingburgh, Schaghticoke, and Pittstown and the bill to create it passed the NYS Assembly unanimously. It died in the Senate. I think it was an attempt by the towns of the county to gain more power through numbers relative to the City of Troy, but I’m not sure. I then found that in 1879 there was a bill to create a town of North Lansingburgh from Lansingburgh, Schaghticoke, Pittstown, and Brunswick. It looks like it passed the Assembly, though not unanimously, and made it to the second reading in the Senate but then seems to have died in committee. I'll have to check at the State Library to see if they have copies of the bills, which might indicate the boundaries the towns would have had. I don't think sponsor's memos for failed bills are kept, and even ones for bill that did pass from that long ago I think are long gone. Chris Philippo ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HERITAGE DAYS: Civil War Heritage Days will be held starting at 10 a.m. both Aug. 16 and 17 at Schuyler Flatts Park in Menands. Spectators will be able to watch a battle rage in the open field. There will be cannon fire and mounted cavalry units in battle and military exercises with both Confederate and Union Camps and more than 100 reenactors, both military and civilian. There will be period music concerts, clothing demonstrations and depictions of all aspects of daily life. There will also be different educational booths from local historian groups and museums from around the state as well as a civil war era sutler. p.s. If you can loan any personal lookup materials for TIGS table at this event, I promise to return them promptly.

Hi Gerri, I am planning on attending on the 21st at the Illium Cafe. Dot Dugan On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Gerri Sherry via < ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Our next meeting will be Thursday August 21 at The Ilium Cafe, located at > 9 Broadway Troy (at Second Street). 6:30 pm start. You need not be a > member to attend. Please do RSVP by Tuesday 08/19 if at all possible to > gerrisherry@outlook.com. Hope to see you there. > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website > for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am interested in this tour, and agree with the suggestion for October. Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® III <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Kathy Fomuk via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> </div><div>Date:08/12/2014 8:59 AM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: Gerri Sherry <gerrisherry@outlook.com>, ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com </div><div>Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Opportunity for Tour of Albany Rural Cemetery </div><div> </div>Hi, October is better for me. Thanks. Kathy Sent from my iPad > On Aug 12, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Gerri Sherry via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Christine Connell has secured for us an opportunity for a Walking Tour of Albany Rural Cemetery led by Mark Bodner. > > We'll discuss further at next week's meeting, but some dates to consider are drawing near and it's recommended we get on Mr. Bodner's Calendar if we'd like to tour in August. > > Being mindful we don't clog up the RootsWeb List - if you are likely to attend, please briefly let us know which of the following date(s) are best for you. > Walking tour runs approximately two hours. > > Saturday Aug 23 10am-Noon > Sunday Aug 24 1-3pm > > Saturday Aug 30 10am-Noon > Sunday Aug 31 1-3pm > > September is not available. Personally, I think early October would be a lovely time for a Rural Tour. > > Cheers, Gerri > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wow! You have certainly given me valuable information and I am going to begin with the sites you provided. Again thank you--I would never know where to begin without your help. I look forward to speaking with you at a TIGS meeting. Please enjoy your week.... Kathy Sent from my iPad > On Aug 14, 2014, at 12:17 AM, Christopher Philippo via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> On Aug 13, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Kathy Fomuk <kfomuk@icloud.com> wrote: >> I feel compelled to investigate its history. Do you know of any sites or government agencies I can access to help me? This is ( in my opinion) historical information for Troy. > > There’s a NYS Dep’t of State Division of Cemeteries http://www.dos.ny.gov/cmty/ and a NYS Cemetery Board, but for the most part they don’t have jurisdiction over municipal (or religious, or family) cemeteries. It’s not clear to me what agency, if any, does oversight regarding municipal cemeteries. I’ve been meaning to try asking the NYS Division of Local Government Services http://www.dos.ny.gov/lg/ and NYS Comptroller’s Local Government and School Accountability http://www.osc.state.ny.us/localgov/ There’s some interesting reports on Troy there, incidentally: > > “We found that the City did not develop adequate procedures to monitor compliance with its Code and related statutory requirements. For example City established an Ethics Board to review annual financial disclosure statements and ethics complaints. However, one Ethics Board member told us that he has never met the other Ethics Board members and has not been asked to attend any meetings since he was appointed to the position in March 2008. Another Ethics Board member told us that the Board has not met since 2007 and she has never seen the annual financial disclosure statements that the Ethics Board is required to review annually. As a result,we found that 22 of the 72 individuals required to file these statements did not do so. One of the 22 individuals was an Ethics Board member, and another was a City Councilman. This is particularly troubling because those individuals should be setting an example for other City officers and employees. When a local government does not d! evelop mechanisms to ensure compliance with its code of ethics, local officials have little assurance that they are preventing and detecting unethical conduct.” > “Although officials told us that recent revisions to the Code addressed whistle-blower protection, we could not locate the revised section and the head of personnel was not aware of such revision.” > http://www.osc.state.ny.us/localgov/audits/swr/2010/ethics/troy.pdf > > I asked Kathy Sheehan and she doesn’t know of any city or county records pertaining to the cemetery other than ones we’re already aware of, but indicated she could get in touch with HVCC’s President to make sure they’re aware of the possibility the cemetery is still there. > > City Engineer’s office might have maps. City Registrar of Vital Statistics might have burial permits. The city and/or county might have records pertaining to the ownership and transfers or sales of the Woodside area property, deeds, tax records. The State Environmental Quality Review (SEQR) http://www.dec.ny.gov/permits/357.html for the HVCC dorm project might address the issue of possible exhumation of bodies, opening of underground burial vaults, etc. > > Books of Troy’s Common Council Proceedings ought to have info about what became of the cemetery, or at very least one could find when it was last referenced. I don’t know how many survived the 1938 City Hall fire or where else might have copies, other than a couple places for sure. WorldCat indicates the NYPL in NYC as well as Harvard have some http://www.worldcat.org/title/common-council-proceedings/oclc/48838302&referer=brief_results Troy City Hall ought to have them - but might not. Rensselaer County Historical Society might have them. NYSL in Albany doesn’t seem to have them, though I think it ought. Troy newspapers used to publish the Common Council Proceedings as well, which is where I’ve been finding some info via fultonhistory.com - but there’s lots of Troy newspapers that website hasn’t scanned. > > Oakwood Cemetery may have some records pertaining to the reinterment of veterans from the Nail Factory Cemetery to Oakwood. Not just interment records, but the Day Books. While it would be laborious their records could potentially be checked for all the people named at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/NailFactoryCemetery/NailFactoryCemeteryIntro.htm to determine if they were moved there or not (I’d guess most were not). > > Chris > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Aug 13, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Kathy Fomuk <kfomuk@icloud.com> wrote: > I feel compelled to investigate its history. Do you know of any sites or government agencies I can access to help me? This is ( in my opinion) historical information for Troy. There’s a NYS Dep’t of State Division of Cemeteries http://www.dos.ny.gov/cmty/ and a NYS Cemetery Board, but for the most part they don’t have jurisdiction over municipal (or religious, or family) cemeteries. It’s not clear to me what agency, if any, does oversight regarding municipal cemeteries. I’ve been meaning to try asking the NYS Division of Local Government Services http://www.dos.ny.gov/lg/ and NYS Comptroller’s Local Government and School Accountability http://www.osc.state.ny.us/localgov/ There’s some interesting reports on Troy there, incidentally: “We found that the City did not develop adequate procedures to monitor compliance with its Code and related statutory requirements. For example City established an Ethics Board to review annual financial disclosure statements and ethics complaints. However, one Ethics Board member told us that he has never met the other Ethics Board members and has not been asked to attend any meetings since he was appointed to the position in March 2008. Another Ethics Board member told us that the Board has not met since 2007 and she has never seen the annual financial disclosure statements that the Ethics Board is required to review annually. As a result,we found that 22 of the 72 individuals required to file these statements did not do so. One of the 22 individuals was an Ethics Board member, and another was a City Councilman. This is particularly troubling because those individuals should be setting an example for other City officers and employees. When a local government does not devel! op mechanisms to ensure compliance with its code of ethics, local officials have little assurance that they are preventing and detecting unethical conduct.” “Although officials told us that recent revisions to the Code addressed whistle-blower protection, we could not locate the revised section and the head of personnel was not aware of such revision.” http://www.osc.state.ny.us/localgov/audits/swr/2010/ethics/troy.pdf I asked Kathy Sheehan and she doesn’t know of any city or county records pertaining to the cemetery other than ones we’re already aware of, but indicated she could get in touch with HVCC’s President to make sure they’re aware of the possibility the cemetery is still there. City Engineer’s office might have maps. City Registrar of Vital Statistics might have burial permits. The city and/or county might have records pertaining to the ownership and transfers or sales of the Woodside area property, deeds, tax records. The State Environmental Quality Review (SEQR) http://www.dec.ny.gov/permits/357.html for the HVCC dorm project might address the issue of possible exhumation of bodies, opening of underground burial vaults, etc. Books of Troy’s Common Council Proceedings ought to have info about what became of the cemetery, or at very least one could find when it was last referenced. I don’t know how many survived the 1938 City Hall fire or where else might have copies, other than a couple places for sure. WorldCat indicates the NYPL in NYC as well as Harvard have some http://www.worldcat.org/title/common-council-proceedings/oclc/48838302&referer=brief_results Troy City Hall ought to have them - but might not. Rensselaer County Historical Society might have them. NYSL in Albany doesn’t seem to have them, though I think it ought. Troy newspapers used to publish the Common Council Proceedings as well, which is where I’ve been finding some info via fultonhistory.com - but there’s lots of Troy newspapers that website hasn’t scanned. Oakwood Cemetery may have some records pertaining to the reinterment of veterans from the Nail Factory Cemetery to Oakwood. Not just interment records, but the Day Books. While it would be laborious their records could potentially be checked for all the people named at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/NailFactoryCemetery/NailFactoryCemeteryIntro.htm to determine if they were moved there or not (I’d guess most were not). Chris

Hi Chris, Just want to thank you again for all the information you have been posting. Now I know I have to look into this further..... The cemetery literally sits across the street from me & I feel compelled to investigate its history. Do you know of any sites or government agencies I can access to help me? This is ( in my opinion) historical information for Troy. Kathy Sent from my iPad > On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Christopher Philippo via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > “Ramble.” Troy Daily Times. July 3, 1860: 3 col 2. > http://gravelyny.blogspot.com/2014/08/troy-nail-factory-cemeterys-high-toned.html > > Above article I found this morning describing the Oak Grove, Burden’s Lake, and Woodside areas of South Troy. The Nail Factory Cemetery as shown on the 1858 map was (is?) located north of the E. Proudfit mansion (the area that became the monastery), and east of William F. Burden and Henry Burden’s mansion(s). The article describes what would seem to be those mansions, as well as the cemetery: > > "Look at the magnificent mansions of Messrs. Burden and Proudfit, setting like ducal coronets on the mountain’s brow. Here Summer welcomes you to one of her sweetest charms, the sheen glancing in silken waves from the luxuriant foliage, the gleam of the sunbeams constantly adding new charms to the lovely picture, and the village burying-ground blending a high-toned pensiveness with the landscape.” > > Mr. and Mrs. Ebenezer Proudfit were responsible for the Proudfit Observatory at RPI http://www.lib.rpi.edu/Archives/buildings/proudfit.html > > In other news, I was just told some volunteers will be working in Cohoes’ City Cemetery located directly east of and adjacent to Crescent Union Cemetery in Halfmoon tomorrow, Thursday, at 12:30 and again on Monday at 12:30. I don’t know what their work focus will be - possibly trash removal, weed and branch removal, etc. With at present only about twenty marked graves visible when over 950 people were known to have been reinterred there, it’s possible that other headstones will resurface during the cleanup, which could be rewarding. On the other hand, it seems possible that few if any headstones will be found. I can try to get more details if anyone’s interested - short notice, I realize. > > Chris > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

“Ramble.” Troy Daily Times. July 3, 1860: 3 col 2. http://gravelyny.blogspot.com/2014/08/troy-nail-factory-cemeterys-high-toned.html Above article I found this morning describing the Oak Grove, Burden’s Lake, and Woodside areas of South Troy. The Nail Factory Cemetery as shown on the 1858 map was (is?) located north of the E. Proudfit mansion (the area that became the monastery), and east of William F. Burden and Henry Burden’s mansion(s). The article describes what would seem to be those mansions, as well as the cemetery: "Look at the magnificent mansions of Messrs. Burden and Proudfit, setting like ducal coronets on the mountain’s brow. Here Summer welcomes you to one of her sweetest charms, the sheen glancing in silken waves from the luxuriant foliage, the gleam of the sunbeams constantly adding new charms to the lovely picture, and the village burying-ground blending a high-toned pensiveness with the landscape.” Mr. and Mrs. Ebenezer Proudfit were responsible for the Proudfit Observatory at RPI http://www.lib.rpi.edu/Archives/buildings/proudfit.html In other news, I was just told some volunteers will be working in Cohoes’ City Cemetery located directly east of and adjacent to Crescent Union Cemetery in Halfmoon tomorrow, Thursday, at 12:30 and again on Monday at 12:30. I don’t know what their work focus will be - possibly trash removal, weed and branch removal, etc. With at present only about twenty marked graves visible when over 950 people were known to have been reinterred there, it’s possible that other headstones will resurface during the cleanup, which could be rewarding. On the other hand, it seems possible that few if any headstones will be found. I can try to get more details if anyone’s interested - short notice, I realize. Chris

Here is contact info for Kathy Sheehan and other Rensselaer County historians: http://www.rchsonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/HISTORIANS-OF-RENSSELAER-COUNTY-updated-Oct-2013.pdf > On Aug 12, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Lynn Grice via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > FYI... Kathryn Sheehan was officially appointed City of Troy Historian back > in May of this year. She is also the Rensselaer County Historian. >

On Aug 13, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Sheila Ploof <sherey82@gmail.com> wrote: > What is the contact info for Ms. Sheehan, please? Kathryn T. Sheehan <ksheehan@rchsonline.org>, though if she was duly appointed by the Mayor (not by the City Council which has no legal authority to appoint a City Historian) she ought to have a city e-mail and mailing address as well. "A local historian shall be appointed, as provided in this section, for each city [...] Such historian shall be appointed as follows: For a city, by the mayor" N.Y. ARTS & CULT. AFF. LAW § 57.07 (1) http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/services/historian/artslaw.html "Earlier this week I talked to a reporter about hiring a City Historian. He pointed out that it’s been 33 years since the City has employed an official historian, and we discussed some of the interesting nuances and mandates associated with that position.” http://troyny.gov/Government/MayorsOffice/mayorpressroom/13-02-08/Mayor_Rosamilia_2013_City_Address.aspx http://www.troyny.gov/Libraries/Rosamilia_Speeches/2013stateofcity.sflb.ashx [One of the nuances: Mr. Rosamilia was mandated to have appointed one in 2011.] “we shall strenuously urge him to appoint a City Historian, this is required by the City’s Charter, and as such we need to abide by it. There are many talented and competent individuals who possess the skills and intimate knowledge of the city. The one such person that I cannot think of more highly is that of respected and noted author Don Rittner. His deep roots in the city, knowledge, passion, and commitment to Troy’s history, has been evidenced by his many books honoring Troy and Rensselaer County’s past." Rodney Wiltshire's Legislative Response to Mayor Lou Rosamilia's 2014 State of the City address. March 6, 2014 http://www.troyny.gov/Libraries/City_Council/2014legislativeaddress.sflb.ashx [It’s required by state law, but doesn’t seem to be mentioned in the Charter http://ecode360.com/11768862 ] "35. Resolution Naming Kathryn T. Sheehan the Official Historian of the City of Troy, New York. (Council Member Kopka) (At the Request of the Administration)" http://www.troyny.gov/Libraries/City_Council_2014/finagenda041714.sflb.ashx “#35 RESOLUTION NAMING KATHRYN T. SHEEHAN THE OFFICIAL HISTORIAN OF THE CITY OF TROY, NEW YORK "Council member Teta asked if Mrs. Sheehan would be compensated for her time. Council member Kopka answered that she would not, it is a volunteer position. Council member Zalewski stated he was happy to see her on this legislation and that she has a vast amount of knowledge. Mrs. Sheehan thanked him for the compliment. Brendon from the Historical Society was invited up to say a few good words in support of Mrs. Sheehan for the position. “Resolution passed by unanimous vote” http://www.troyny.gov/Libraries/City_Council_2014/fnminutes041714.sflb.ashx [A City Historian is an appointed public officer, not exactly a volunteer position.] "35. RESOLUTION NAMING KATHRYN T. SHEEHAN THE OFFICIAL HISTORIAN OF THE CITY OF TROY, NEW YORK “Council member Zalewski congratulated Kathy on the work she does at the Historical Society and he appreciates her for being the new City Historian at no additional cost to the City. “Resolution passed by unanimous vote" http://www.troyny.gov/Libraries/City_Council_2014/Minutes50114mtg.sflb.ashx [The Mayor and City Council members ought to vote away their own salaries if they’re not going to vote to pay another public officer.] 1934 reference to Nail Factory Cemetery Partial transcription: “In the matter of the application of Troy Society of the Friars Minor of The Order of St. Francis for the cancellation of Taxes on its real property in the City of Troy, County of Rensselaer and State of New York. […] “That your petitioner is the owner of certain property in the City of Troy, County of Rensselaer, and the State of New York, described as follows: “All that, certain lot, piece of parcel of land now in the City of Troy, formerly in the Town of Greenbush, County of Rensselaer, and State of New York, known and distinguished and bounded and described as follows, to wit: “Beginning at a point in the center of the road leading from Troy to Greenbush along the southerly line of lands of Henry Burden, which point is distant twenty-four (24) feet on a course south seventeen (17) degrees, fortyfive (45) minutes west from a stone set in the ground on the northerly side of said road, and running thence north seventeen (17) degrees, forty-five (45) minutes east four hundred ninetyone (491) feet to a stone set in the ground; thence south seventyone (71) degrees ten (10) minutes east two hundred fiftysix (256) feet to the original east bounds of the Jeremiah Lansing farm and the west bounds of the Vandenburgh farm and forty (40) feet—the southwest corner post of the burial ground; thence along the said Vandenburgh line south sixteen (16) degrees twenty (20) minutes west five hundred seventysix (576) feet to a stone monument in the road; thence north fiftyfour (54) degrees, ten (10) minutes west two hundred ninetytwo (292) feet along the center of ! the first above mentioned road to the place of beginning, excepting from said hereby granted premises that part thereof covered by the highway mentioned in the boundaries thereof. […] “Excepting and reserving out of the above described premises the burial yard or cemetery.” “City of Troy, N.Y.; Regular Meeting of Common Council.” Troy Times. February 9, 1934: 11 cols 1-3. http://fultonhistory.com/Newspaper%2018/Troy%20NY%20Times/Troy%20NY%20Times%201934/Troy%20NY%20Times%201934%20-%200480.pdf

What is the contact info for Ms. Sheehan, please? And thank you! > On Aug 12, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Lynn Grice via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > FYI... Kathryn Sheehan was officially appointed City of Troy Historian back > in May of this year. She is also the Rensselaer County Historian. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Philippo via" <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > To: "TIGS" <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 5:52 PM > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Nail Factory Cemetery history - 13 pages > onGoogle Docs > > > I asked Don Rittner just now, he being about the closest person Troy has > to a City Historian since Mayor Rosamilia continues to refuse to comply with > the state law that absolutely requires him to appoint an official City > Historian. When one is a public official apparently compliance with laws is > optional, Oaths of Office notwithstanding. It certainly would explain a > lot. As Mel Brooks says in History of the World, Part I: “it’s good to be > the King! > > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

FYI... Kathryn Sheehan was officially appointed City of Troy Historian back in May of this year. She is also the Rensselaer County Historian. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Philippo via" <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> To: "TIGS" <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 5:52 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Nail Factory Cemetery history - 13 pages onGoogle Docs I asked Don Rittner just now, he being about the closest person Troy has to a City Historian since Mayor Rosamilia continues to refuse to comply with the state law that absolutely requires him to appoint an official City Historian. When one is a public official apparently compliance with laws is optional, Oaths of Office notwithstanding. It certainly would explain a lot. As Mel Brooks says in History of the World, Part I: “it’s good to be the King!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Mt-S77wZKfSVVjazVKYm4xUDg/edit?usp=sharing At least a couple of the veterans who’d been buried there were moved to Oakwood Cemetery sometime between 1873 and 1885. As for the other veterans, or the many other people who’d been buried there, all that seems to be known is that it was claimed they were “supposed to have been moved.” If that happened, it would seemingly have been somewhere between 1891 and 1905. Whether the new dorms will impact the (former?) site of the cemetery, I’m not sure. Waldman, Scott. “Clearing the way for a dormitory; School plans to tear down former seminary building across from campus.” Albany Times Union. June 14, 2013. http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Clearing-the-way-for-a-dormitory-4600895.php Sanzone, Danielle. “HVCC exploring student housing options.” Troy Record. June 14, 2013. http://www.troyrecord.com/general-news/20130614/hvcc-exploring-student-housing-options McNeil, Tyler. "Privatized student housing in the works." The Hudsonian. February 25, 2014. http://www.thehudsonian.org/2014/02/25/privatized-student-housing-in-the-works/ The Request for Proposal for the dorm project doesn’t seem to be at http://www.hvcc.edu/purchasing any longer. It ought to be possible to obtain it and other documents relating to the site from HVCC and the Rensselaer County Legislature, though. I asked Don Rittner just now, he being about the closest person Troy has to a City Historian since Mayor Rosamilia continues to refuse to comply with the state law that absolutely requires him to appoint an official City Historian. When one is a public official apparently compliance with laws is optional, Oaths of Office notwithstanding. It certainly would explain a lot. As Mel Brooks says in History of the World, Part I: “it’s good to be the King! Incidentally, my late father had been director of the computer center at HVCC prior to his moving on to SUNY system administration. I remember visiting the computer center when I was a kid - big computers, large sheets of green and white computer paper with holes in the sides for the printers’ paper feeders. “John Philippo, 51.” Albany Times Union. August 11, 1994: B13. http://albarchive.merlinone.net/mweb/wmsql.wm.request?oneimage&imageid=5716970 Chris

October would work for me. Cant do any of the Aug. dates :-( I'd really like to attend this. Heidi > On Aug 12, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Gerri Sherry via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Christine Connell has secured for us an opportunity for a Walking Tour of Albany Rural Cemetery led by Mark Bodner. > > We'll discuss further at next week's meeting, but some dates to consider are drawing near and it's recommended we get on Mr. Bodner's Calendar if we'd like to tour in August. > > Being mindful we don't clog up the RootsWeb List - if you are likely to attend, please briefly let us know which of the following date(s) are best for you. > Walking tour runs approximately two hours. > > Saturday Aug 23 10am-Noon > Sunday Aug 24 1-3pm > > Saturday Aug 30 10am-Noon > Sunday Aug 31 1-3pm > > September is not available. Personally, I think early October would be a lovely time for a Rural Tour. > > Cheers, Gerri > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 11 Aug 2014 13:19:08 -0700,Pat Connors wrote: > Thanks, but I am in California, was hoping the records were online. A partial list of people who had been buried there is on TIGS’ website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/NailFactoryCemetery/NailFactoryCemeteryIntro.htm Nobody is supposed to be buried there still, but that doesn’t mean that nobody is: "There is now no sixth ward burying ground. The bodies are supposed to have been removed to other burial grounds.” Municipal Ordinances of the City of Troy. Troy, NY: Troy Times Art Press, 1905. http://books.google.com/books?id=qz8WAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA219 “The bodies are supposed to have been removed to other burial grounds” doesn’t fill one with confidence that they were. Considering that Troy bulldozed the original Mount Ida Cemetery and Rensselaer County abandoned the County Farm Cemetery in Troy, and historian Frances Broderick believed bodies were left in the old Lansing Family Burying Ground, etc. it seems possible that many or most of the bodies are still there. Even if an attempt had been made to remove them all, it’s almost inevitable that bodies get missed. The last reference to it I’ve found remains this: "Cows and pigs continue to roam over the graves in the old sixth ward burial ground. The fence recently ordered by the common council has not yet been begun." "From the Southern Section." Troy Daily Times. November 21, 1883: 3 col 3. Chris Philippo

Hi, October is better for me. Thanks. Kathy Sent from my iPad > On Aug 12, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Gerri Sherry via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Christine Connell has secured for us an opportunity for a Walking Tour of Albany Rural Cemetery led by Mark Bodner. > > We'll discuss further at next week's meeting, but some dates to consider are drawing near and it's recommended we get on Mr. Bodner's Calendar if we'd like to tour in August. > > Being mindful we don't clog up the RootsWeb List - if you are likely to attend, please briefly let us know which of the following date(s) are best for you. > Walking tour runs approximately two hours. > > Saturday Aug 23 10am-Noon > Sunday Aug 24 1-3pm > > Saturday Aug 30 10am-Noon > Sunday Aug 31 1-3pm > > September is not available. Personally, I think early October would be a lovely time for a Rural Tour. > > Cheers, Gerri > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Christine Connell has secured for us an opportunity for a Walking Tour of Albany Rural Cemetery led by Mark Bodner. We'll discuss further at next week's meeting, but some dates to consider are drawing near and it's recommended we get on Mr. Bodner's Calendar if we'd like to tour in August. Being mindful we don't clog up the RootsWeb List - if you are likely to attend, please briefly let us know which of the following date(s) are best for you. Walking tour runs approximately two hours. Saturday Aug 23 10am-Noon Sunday Aug 24 1-3pm Saturday Aug 30 10am-Noon Sunday Aug 31 1-3pm September is not available. Personally, I think early October would be a lovely time for a Rural Tour. Cheers, Gerri