Friends, This link to today's Irish Times is a story about a new Irish web site that gives access to more than 500 Irish archives: http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/website-gives-instant-access-to-500-plus-archive-collections-1.1932562 Mary Lee Dunn

Family Heritage Day http://www.archives.nysed.gov/apt/events/index.shtml I’d guess the Capital District Genealogical Society will be there, even though it doesn’t mention them. The CDGS staffs a volunteer desk in the State Library (something TIGS could probably do as well, if anyone were interested). Chris

“Copies of the New York State Library’s master microfilm may be requested through Reference Services." http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/all/442.htm#Troy http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/all/442.htm#Lansingburgh Duplicating microfilm reels they have might be worth exploring for a couple reasons: The NYSL has many newspapers the Troy Public Library doesn’t have at all like the Democratic Analyzer, Labor Advocate, Lansingburgh Times, Troy American, Troy freie presse, etc. (also other Rensselaer County newspapers, which it would be nice if the Troy Public Library also had given that Troy’s the county seat) A copy could be loaned to http://fultonhistory.com/ to scan and render searchable, which he’ll do for free Apparently they only duplicate reels for which they have a master - it can cost $40 or $50 from them to duplicate one. http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/library/policy/photdupch.htm In cases where they don’t have the master, possibly they might know who would. In some cases they only have paper originals, and a number of those have gone missing (thank the NYS Legislature for continually cutting staffing and funding for the State Library, Archives & Museum…). In some cases where they only have paper copies they’re very short runs or single issues. For the Troy Statesman, for example, they have 1833:1:8 only. It might be a worthwhile project to scan those using the State Library’s overhead scanners or to take digital photos of all the pages. Aside from ensuring there’s a copy in event the original ever goes missing, those scans or photos could then be rendered searchable. That could be useful for original newspapers the Troy Public Library owns that aren’t on microfilm as well, and there seem to be a number of those. The NYS Newspaper Project indicated the TPL had the Troy Weekly Telegram on paper only, 1882:7:4-1883:12:25. Given that some of the TPL’s scrapbooks have gone missing, it’s quite possible some of their newspapers ! have as well - once again a good reason to copy them while that’s possible. Chris

Tonight (Sept 15, 2014) at the Irish American Heritage Museum 370 Broadway, Albany at 6:30 pm (427-1916) Bill "Liam" McKone president and founder of the Fenian Historical Society and author of "Vermont's Irish Rebel" offers an in-depth look into the Fenians. The Fenian Historical Society was organized in 2014 for purposes related to documenting and commemorating the history of the Fenian Brotherhood and Sisterhood, active 1858 to 1880, and subsequent efforts to restore the independence of Ireland.

Please join us Thursday Sept 18th for our monthly meeting. We'll gather at The Ilium Cafe, 9 Broadway in Troy, 6:30 pm start. RSVP gerrisherry@outlook.com. Hope to see you then.

Maria, A name index for the book The History of the Police Department of Troy, N.Y. from 1786 to 1902, Illustrated, historical, and biographical, Including a Digest of the Lansingburgh Department can be found on TIGS website. Link to that page below. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/PoliceHistoryNew.htm _____ Joan Howe > On Sep 9, 2014, at 6:07 AM, Kinney via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I have a relative who was a County Detective with the District Attorney's Office 1905 until his death in 1916. Would this be covered by the Troy Police Department? I know the book being discussed is earlier than this period but was hoping someone may know. I have not been able to find any photos from this period. His name was Patrick M Fogarty. Thanks for your thoughts. > > Maria Baker > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a relative who was a County Detective with the District Attorney's Office 1905 until his death in 1916. Would this be covered by the Troy Police Department? I know the book being discussed is earlier than this period but was hoping someone may know. I have not been able to find any photos from this period. His name was Patrick M Fogarty. Thanks for your thoughts. Maria Baker

His office hours have changed so he is now there on Wed & Thurs. (9-3) Rebecca - if you are doing research for someone else (not your own family) Tom will provide lookups as long as he has a request/signature from the family member. His email address is thanley@ihm.rcpw.org but I think calling during office hours might be a faster response. On Monday, September 8, 2014, Rebecca Rector via < ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Does anyone happen to have a blank form that Tom Hanley sends out to people > to fill in their family information for research? I called Tom Hanley's > office, but he is only there now on Thurs and Fri. If anyone has this, > could you scan and send it to me? > Thanks, > Rebecca >

Thanks Bill, this certainly gives me many avenues. It will be interesting to start digging. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2014, at 2:32 PM, "Bill & Cathy McGrath" <seamus@nycap.rr.com> wrote: > >

Does anyone happen to have a blank form that Tom Hanley sends out to people to fill in their family information for research? I called Tom Hanley's office, but he is only there now on Thurs and Fri. If anyone has this, could you scan and send it to me? Thanks, Rebecca

Hello, Everyone, Dr. Ciaran Reilly's important new book, Strokestown and the Great Irish Famine, from Four Courts Press is now listed on Amazon for pre-orders. The paperback is $28.45 and pre-orders guarantee you the lowest price between now and its publication at the end of October. The book is the first comprehensive look at the Mahon estate records and we in the Ballykilcline Society have eagerly awaited it. Ciaran, with whom we have been working for some while, has said the book includes 175 images of estate documents. He is the scholar from the National University of Ireland at Maynooth who has been charged with reviewing, cataloging, and analyzing the Mahon estate archive in conjunction with the Famine Museum and the Centre for the Study of Historic Irish Houses and Estates. He also is the organizer of the Famine Museum's annual conference on the Famine. The book likely should interest anyone who had famine-era emigrants, not only descendants of those from the Strokestown area. Here's Amazon's blurb on the book: "The Strokestown Park Archive is one of the largest estate collections in existence with more than 50,000 documents comprising rentals, leases, accounts, correspondence maps, drawings, architectural plans and photographs. Of particular importance are the papers that relate to the Great Irish Famine. This book aims to introduce the reader to the archive and to provide an microscopic insight into the many and varied experiences of Famine for those who inhabited the estate in the 1840s. Documents from the archive, many of which have not seen the light of day since they were generated almost 170 years ago, illuminate the text and provide the reader with a unique insight into Famine Ireland. Although the 1990s (and later) witnessed an outpouring of scholarly work on the Great Famine to commemorate the sesquicentenary, only a handful of studies examined the impact of Famine on individual landed estates. In the social memory of the Great Famine at Strokestown, the assisted emigration of 1,490 people to Canada, the murder of Major Denis Mahon in 1847 and the subsequent clearance of as many as 3,000 tenants from the estate between 1848 to 1851 predominates. While, it is certainly true that the emigration schemes and the clearances caused considerable unrest, which contributed to the murder of Denis Mahon, social memory, if left untested, can hide many other complexities of the Famine. The existence of the Strokestown Famine archive highlights that there are still major questions to be answered in relation to the greatest social calamity in modern Irish history. For example, how widespread and effective were local efforts to alleviate the plight of the impoverished? How did the local community react to the clearance of thousands of people? Who benefited from these clearances? How did those who emigrated fare in their receiving communities? This book attempts to answer some of these crucial questions." Best Wishes to All, Mary Lee Dunn

I had a similiar problem when searching for the marriage record for my wife's grandparents. This couple also immigrated from "Poland". However, the area they came from was a part of Austria when they were born, was ceded to Poland after they immigrated, and became part of the Ukraine after the breakup of the USSR. I had also been unsuccessful, when I tried St. Casmir's Polish parish in Albany where this couple worshiped, and where their children were baptized. Conducted a step by step search. From the Vital Records Index at the State Archives, I learned the license was issued and marriage recorded in 1912 at Albany. After obtaining a copy of the marriage record from the Albany County Archives, I learned they were married at Troy, by a "Gr. Catholic priest". Knowing they were from the region near, and now part of, the Ukraine, I contacted St. Nicholas Ukranian Orthodox Church in Troy. SUCCESS!!! And the church even provided an English translation of their record, along with a photocopy. >From the information given below, the marriage would have taken place 1903-1904. There should be a civil record, and the state index should indicate where that record originated. The local city or town can then be contacted directly to avoid state Health Dept. delays. If the civil record is obtained, it might then identify what church, or at least give some clue(s) for which churches to approach for a church record. And for recent immigrants, the language barrier could bea large clue. Hope this helps. And good fortune in the search. Tom Breedlove ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kris6851 via" <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Request for help solving a puzzle >I have received a request for help and am tossing it out to all the pro's >on this list. This lady is a real fan of TIGS and has only praise for the >projects we undertake, I hope we can give her some help and/or direction > Thanks > Kristin Cooney-Ayotte > > > > I noticed your name in associationwith the Troy Irish Genealogical Society > and the project of indexing marriagesfrom 1908-1930's. What a great help > to the genealogist. Too bad they don't havea link on the city of Troy > homepage. I see births and deaths at the bottom. > > I have been taking a couple ofgenealogy refresher courses recently. I > started back in 1984 with no Internet. Ihave made many trips to the > Archives in DC during the 80's. I wanted to catchup on what I may have > missed with Internet sites and it really can beoverwhelming. > > The reason I am writing is I'mwondering if you can give some advice for a > record that my husband and I havelong ago searched for but can't seem to > find. It is a marriage license of hisgrandparents: Jan/John STACHURA and > Caroline/Karolina GAWRON. They camefrom Poland and went to St. Michael's > in Cohoes since there was no Polishchurch in Troy. We went to the church a > while ago and the priest looked itup but could not find any record. He did > find the baptism of their first child,Anna, July 4, 1904. > > I found Karolina on a passenger listarriving March 10, 1903 at the age of > 16. Even if there was a churchrecord, did there have to be a civil record > also? If something happened to thechurch record I thought there might be > another place it was recorded. So mythought is either in Cohoes or Troy. I > know one can submit a search at the NYDept of Health but it said it would > take 8 months and better to go to thecourthouse. I get the impression that > they don't allow the public to search theselocal records. > > Something else I just thought of isthat she would not have turned 18 until > May 10, 1904 two months before Anna'sbirth. What happens if someone is a > minor? My grandmother was under theage of 18 in PA and had to have a > guardian in order to get married. > > I don't mind sending in a request toeither Cohoes or Troy but I was just > thinking you or someone in your group mighthave some other knowledge or > experiences with something like this. Thanks for any thoughts about this > puzzle. >

“Harry E. Powers Killed in Action on French Front; Former Troy Policeman, Mail Carrier Lost Life on Nov. 26, Family Informed." Times Record. December 27, 1944: 7 col 5. http://fultonhistory.com/Newspaper%2018/Troy%20NY%20Times%20Record/Troy%20NY%20Times%20Record%201944/Troy%20NY%20Times%20Record%201944%20-%206244.pdf Harry E. Powers (1910-1944) Epinal American Cemetery and Memorial, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=56374920

I've sent Pam the article on Harry E. Powers as requested. Terry -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry Bora via Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 5:53 PM To: 'PampChefPam'; ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Troy Police Department Photo Pam, there's a picture and story about the death of a Harry E. Powers, former Troy policeman, who was killed in action in 1944. Story says he was the son of John and Anne Powers, and husband of Pauline, nee Deverly. The picture shows him in his Army uniform, not a police uniform. If he's 'yours', the article is in the Troy Record, Dec. 28, 1944, or I can email it to you off-List. Terry

This http://tinyurl.com/p9cgvzr shows a John Morrison suspended from the Lansingburgh police force in 1875 (could be 1876) my eyes are having problems with reading the date. But don't see him on the TIGS transcription http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/PoliceHistoryNew.htm Lansingburgh became part of the city of Troy in 1900 > On Sep 7, 2014, at 5:23 PM, oenghus via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > The Troy city directories for 1874 to 1879 show John’s occupation as “Policeman.” He doesn’t show up in the history of the Troy Police Department. I am wondering where else he might have been on the rolls. > I have asked this question before with no results but stuff does pop up. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > James L. Owens

Did not find him in any of the photos. If you have a specific year, I can check for his name. There are many group photos of policemen in this book with no individual names. Many are arranged by Precinct Number. I should think that the Troy Library or the RCHS would have a copy of this book. It was published only 11 years ago. Mary-Alice Mangan > On Sep 7, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Shirley Ormsby via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I've been looking for information about my grandfather, John C. Christensen, > who was a long time police officer in Troy (Lansingburgh station, I > believe). If he is mentioned in this > book I will try to purchase a copy, perhaps from Amazon. Thanks. > > Shirley Ormsby > > -----Original Message----- > From: Terry Bora via > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 5:53 PM > To: 'PampChefPam' ; ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Troy Police Department Photo > > Pam, there's a picture and story about the death of a Harry E. Powers, > former Troy policeman, who was killed in action in 1944. Story says he was > the son of John and Anne Powers, and husband of Pauline, nee Deverly. The > picture shows him in his Army uniform, not a police uniform. If he's > 'yours', the article is in the Troy Record, Dec. 28, 1944, or I can email it > to you off-List. > > Terry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PampChefPam > via > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 6:46 PM > To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Troy Police Department Photo > > Someone on another board thought someone at TIGS had an old Troy Police > Department book containing information regarding officers and possible > photos of them. I'm looking for Harry Powers who would have been a police > officer around 1938; trying to find a photo of him in his uniform (like an > official photo). Thanks for any help (I have checked with the historical > society and they do not have anything like that). > > > ..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- > ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) > ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ Pam Trudeau -:¦:- > -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* > > > ------------------------------- > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for > details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've been looking for information about my grandfather, John C. Christensen, who was a long time police officer in Troy (Lansingburgh station, I believe). If he is mentioned in this book I will try to purchase a copy, perhaps from Amazon. Thanks. Shirley Ormsby -----Original Message----- From: Terry Bora via Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 5:53 PM To: 'PampChefPam' ; ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Troy Police Department Photo Pam, there's a picture and story about the death of a Harry E. Powers, former Troy policeman, who was killed in action in 1944. Story says he was the son of John and Anne Powers, and husband of Pauline, nee Deverly. The picture shows him in his Army uniform, not a police uniform. If he's 'yours', the article is in the Troy Record, Dec. 28, 1944, or I can email it to you off-List. Terry -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PampChefPam via Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 6:46 PM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Troy Police Department Photo Someone on another board thought someone at TIGS had an old Troy Police Department book containing information regarding officers and possible photos of them. I'm looking for Harry Powers who would have been a police officer around 1938; trying to find a photo of him in his uniform (like an official photo). Thanks for any help (I have checked with the historical society and they do not have anything like that). ..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ Pam Trudeau -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* ------------------------------- ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pam, there's a picture and story about the death of a Harry E. Powers, former Troy policeman, who was killed in action in 1944. Story says he was the son of John and Anne Powers, and husband of Pauline, nee Deverly. The picture shows him in his Army uniform, not a police uniform. If he's 'yours', the article is in the Troy Record, Dec. 28, 1944, or I can email it to you off-List. Terry -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PampChefPam via Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 6:46 PM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Troy Police Department Photo Someone on another board thought someone at TIGS had an old Troy Police Department book containing information regarding officers and possible photos of them. I'm looking for Harry Powers who would have been a police officer around 1938; trying to find a photo of him in his uniform (like an official photo). Thanks for any help (I have checked with the historical society and they do not have anything like that). ..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ Pam Trudeau -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* -------------------------------

I have a book entitled, "A Century Perspective 1903-2003" by Don Rittner. It is a history of the Troy Police Benevolent and Protective Association, Inc. I checked the years 1937, 1938, 1939....no Harry Powers. There is a photo of a Michael Powers but that is from a much earlier time period. Mary-Alice Mangan > On Sep 5, 2014, at 6:46 PM, PampChefPam via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Someone on another board thought someone at TIGS had an old Troy Police Department book containing information regarding officers and possible photos of them. I'm looking for Harry Powers who would have been a police officer around 1938; trying to find a photo of him in his uniform (like an official photo). Thanks for any help (I have checked with the historical society and they do not have anything like that). > > > ..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- > ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) > ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ Pam Trudeau -:¦:- > -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* pampchefpam@yahoo.com > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Troy city directories for 1874 to 1879 show John’s occupation as “Policeman.” He doesn’t show up in the history of the Troy Police Department. I am wondering where else he might have been on the rolls. I have asked this question before with no results but stuff does pop up. Any help would be greatly appreciated. James L. Owens