Mark Bodnar will lead us on a Walking Tour of Albany Rural Cemetery Saturday Oct 18th. A two-hour two that starts at 10 AM, we'll meet at the front gate. No need to pre-register. All are welcome. Hope to see you then. Gerri

Good morning, Sunday, October 5th is good for me. Kathy Sent from my iPad > On Sep 30, 2014, at 3:24 AM, Christine Connell via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > The ARC cemetery tour originally scheduled for Oct 5 has been postponed, so I propose Sunday Oct 5 (and/or Friday Oct 3) > > Also there is more info about Tom Kane at the TIGS church memorial link for St Brigid's: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/ChurchMemorials/ChurchMemorials-StBrigids.htm > > >> On Sep 29, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Christopher Philippo via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> I think it’s best to start by working on those issues before moving on to mapping the cemetery. >> >> The headstone “erected by Ellen Kane in memory of her beloved husband” is particularly intriguing. Somewhere in that cemetery Captain Patrick Kane is buried - maybe there? The Albany County Grand Army of the Republic post # 312 was named for Patrick Kane. “Captain Patrick Kane, Co. D, 175th NYSV. Joined at Albany Oct. 1862 as 1st Lt., age 24; promoted to Captain Nov. 1862; WIA June 14, 1863 at Port Hudson, La.; died of typhoid fever Sept. 6, 1863 at Baton Rouge, La.” http://localhistory.morrisville.edu/sites/gar_post/albany_gar.html >> >> Are there people who’d be willing to help with any of those issues in October? Any days that would work better than others? >> > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A Genealogy Day will be held on Saturday 10/5/14 at Schenectady Historical Society. Here's a link to the program: http://schenectadyhistorical.org

The ARC cemetery tour originally scheduled for Oct 5 has been postponed, so I propose Sunday Oct 5 (and/or Friday Oct 3) Also there is more info about Tom Kane at the TIGS church memorial link for St Brigid's: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/ChurchMemorials/ChurchMemorials-StBrigids.htm > On Sep 29, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Christopher Philippo via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I think it’s best to start by working on those issues before moving on to mapping the cemetery. > > The headstone “erected by Ellen Kane in memory of her beloved husband” is particularly intriguing. Somewhere in that cemetery Captain Patrick Kane is buried - maybe there? The Albany County Grand Army of the Republic post # 312 was named for Patrick Kane. “Captain Patrick Kane, Co. D, 175th NYSV. Joined at Albany Oct. 1862 as 1st Lt., age 24; promoted to Captain Nov. 1862; WIA June 14, 1863 at Port Hudson, La.; died of typhoid fever Sept. 6, 1863 at Baton Rouge, La.” http://localhistory.morrisville.edu/sites/gar_post/albany_gar.html > > Are there people who’d be willing to help with any of those issues in October? Any days that would work better than others? >

Partially buried headstones, ones hidden in clusters of greenery or in woods on the edges of the cemetery, short or small ones that need to be reset upright, ones so dirty they can't be read - all problems that can be addressed! A number of the headstones that are tipped, in the woods, or so dirty they can't be read are the headstones of veterans. Some examples: http://gravelyny.blogspot.com/2014/09/a-lot-of-work-to-do.html The ones that are partially buried need to have turf removed from them - many of those look to be among the oldest and most elaborately carved in the cemetery. Sometimes the dirt and grass will just pull away or can be whisked off, sometimes it involves a bit of digging. I’d found using a small plastic cutting board I bought in a dollar store to be useful for cutting through the turf and lifting it off, and much less likely to mar the stone than a metal trowel. There’s many large stones that are tipping or are inscription-side down - those will have to wait for now. There’s some that are small that shouldn’t be too hard to tip back upright or flip, though the latter might involve more than one person. The ones that are in clusters of growth or in the narrow strips of woods on the edges of the cemetery - it should be relatively easy to clear those areas with large shears or bow saws (the kind used for Christmas trees). The dirty ones might be possible to clean up enough to read and transcribe with just water and a soft brush. I think it’s best to start by working on those issues before moving on to mapping the cemetery. The headstone “erected by Ellen Kane in memory of her beloved husband” is particularly intriguing. Somewhere in that cemetery Captain Patrick Kane is buried - maybe there? The Albany County Grand Army of the Republic post # 312 was named for Patrick Kane. “Captain Patrick Kane, Co. D, 175th NYSV. Joined at Albany Oct. 1862 as 1st Lt., age 24; promoted to Captain Nov. 1862; WIA June 14, 1863 at Port Hudson, La.; died of typhoid fever Sept. 6, 1863 at Baton Rouge, La.” http://localhistory.morrisville.edu/sites/gar_post/albany_gar.html Are there people who’d be willing to help with any of those issues in October? Any days that would work better than others? The fall colors there can be stunning, incidentally: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pis&PIcrid=66144&PIpi=91051331&PIMode=cemetery Chris Philippo

Hello fellow members: I want to send my niece information on our husband's family in common. Does anyone know of a site where I could fill out the information on line and then email the completed form? I'm looking for a form that shows our husband's great-great grandparents and their family of 8. The other form I'd like to fill out on line and then email is a family worksheet. Many thanks in advance. Connie

Chris, I did take a ride last month to this cemetery. I was surprised to see the condition of a number of the stones..... Kathy Sent from my iPad > On Sep 28, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Christopher Philippo via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> On Sep 28, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Kathy Fomuk <kfomuk@icloud.com> wrote: >> Is there a date set for the mapping? I would be interested in going. > > No date yet, but I’m hoping for sometime in October. Though unemployed, I wound up being busy this month with family visiting from out of state. > > Possibly before trying to map it might make more sense to trim down the weeds and young trees that are hiding stones, to dig out the stones that are partially buried, turn over the ones that are inscription-side down, and clean at least the fronts of stones that are too dirty to read. > > Chris > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Sep 28, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Kathy Fomuk <kfomuk@icloud.com> wrote: > Is there a date set for the mapping? I would be interested in going. No date yet, but I’m hoping for sometime in October. Though unemployed, I wound up being busy this month with family visiting from out of state. Possibly before trying to map it might make more sense to trim down the weeds and young trees that are hiding stones, to dig out the stones that are partially buried, turn over the ones that are inscription-side down, and clean at least the fronts of stones that are too dirty to read. Chris

Hi, Is there a date set for the mapping? I would be interested in going. Thank you for your continued efforts and the valuable information you pass on. Kathy Sent from my iPad > On Sep 28, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Christopher Philippo via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I took over 300 photos in the southeast corner of St Patrick’s Cemetery in Watervliet today. Some are of stones I’d already added to findagrave in the past, or that others added, but I’m in the process of adding a number of ones that aren’t there: > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSsr=1&GScid=66144&df=1& > > There’s many stones that are so dirty they can’t be read, or which are partially buried, or are inscription-side down and too large to move. I’m sure there’s many that are completely buried. > > There’s a number of stones for people from Ireland that indicate their county and parish. There’s also some later burials of Italians and Polish. I wonder if Italian-American and Polish-American groups in the area might have any info about people buried there, or if they might be willing to help with transcription and mapping? There’s also a good many veterans’ headstones in the old section, but many of those are among those that are too dirty to read or are partially buried. > > There’s a new sign for the cemetery near the entrance, alongside all the signs that were already there. It could be more useful if it were nearer the Troy Schenectady Road. With there being no fence and gateway, the entrance is a little hard to spot from the road while approaching it until right at it. > > There seems to have been recent bulldozing in the back of the cemetery in one of the undeveloped portions, possibly with dirt having been trucked in, and large chunks of cement. The size of the bulldozed area and the amount of dirt seems larger than when I last visited earlier this month. Hopefully they’re being careful because there are some headstones in the woods. > > Chris > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I took over 300 photos in the southeast corner of St Patrick’s Cemetery in Watervliet today. Some are of stones I’d already added to findagrave in the past, or that others added, but I’m in the process of adding a number of ones that aren’t there: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSsr=1&GScid=66144&df=1& There’s many stones that are so dirty they can’t be read, or which are partially buried, or are inscription-side down and too large to move. I’m sure there’s many that are completely buried. There’s a number of stones for people from Ireland that indicate their county and parish. There’s also some later burials of Italians and Polish. I wonder if Italian-American and Polish-American groups in the area might have any info about people buried there, or if they might be willing to help with transcription and mapping? There’s also a good many veterans’ headstones in the old section, but many of those are among those that are too dirty to read or are partially buried. There’s a new sign for the cemetery near the entrance, alongside all the signs that were already there. It could be more useful if it were nearer the Troy Schenectady Road. With there being no fence and gateway, the entrance is a little hard to spot from the road while approaching it until right at it. There seems to have been recent bulldozing in the back of the cemetery in one of the undeveloped portions, possibly with dirt having been trucked in, and large chunks of cement. The size of the bulldozed area and the amount of dirt seems larger than when I last visited earlier this month. Hopefully they’re being careful because there are some headstones in the woods. Chris

October 17, 1850: > Resolved That the burying ground known as the New or Third burying ground of the City be hereafter known as the “Mount Ida Cemetery” Adopted. image of the above from the original handwritten record book https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Mt-S77wZKfRnVRQkxxOE9lUjQ/edit?usp=sharing > By Ald. Cole: [...] Resolved, That the Burying ground known as the New or Third Burying ground of this city, be known hereafter as the Mount Ida Cemetery. Adopted. “Common Council Proceedings. (Regular Meeting.) October 17, 1850.” Troy Daily Budget. October 19, 1850: 2 col 5. The above was the Mount Ida Cemetery on Pawling Avenue, since the land for the New Mount Ida Cemetery in Pinewoods Avenue wouldn’t be purchased until a few more years later. The First burying ground (I’m supposing) was the Third Street one, and the Second burying ground probably the Old Mount Ida Cemetery at Cypress Street. Some of the entries for the Troy Burial Records http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyrensse/troybury.htm designate the cemeteries by numbers rather than names. Some of the earliest minutes were transcribed by the Troy City Historian Irving Fancher in the 1930s. The typewritten indexes in Fancher’s books seem to be not of his transcriptions, which do not follow the same pagination, but of the original books - and thus are useless unless those can be found. I don’t know if the original books he transcribed still exist. Following those, there’s some books like the one pictured in the above link which apparently have not been transcribed. Some of those have handwritten indexes, but they’re incomplete and shouldn’t be exclusively relied upon. Among the endless numbers of projects that can be imagined, transcribing the handwritten volumes of minutes might be yet another. Later minutes were published using a minute typeface, though those books of minutes are generally of unbound printed pages pasted into huge scrapbooks. At least one of those scrapbooks has the printed pages tipped in like in a stamp collection - pasted on one edge, and to see the other side of the printed page one has to flip the pasted-on page. All those books that are in type would be much easier to consult if scanned with optical character recognition (OCR). Some books are missing, though one could perhaps copy the minutes as published out of Troy newspapers for those periods of time if copies of the books don’t exist elsewhere. The library seems to have only up to 1987. Have they not been published since then, or did the the library stop getting copies? Chris

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 16:10:32 -0400 From: "Rebecca Rector" <rrector1@nycap.rr.com> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Troy Naturalization, 1839 > In Loretta Nial's index, I found a naturalization for a William Hurley, 6 Nov 1839; vol. 2, pg. 4 (Rensselaer County Court). However, there is no Vol. 2 to be found in the basement of the City Clerk's office (that covers that date). Plenty of other Vol. 2’s, but with much later dates. > Do any of you local folks know where these early volumes are? There is no Vol. 1 either. They must have existed to get into her index, but perhaps are lost now? It's unfortunate that the basement record room is such a mess, and so difficult to find things down there. Some volumes are labeled with dates, others are not, with no particular order to the shelving. It's quite frustrating. Rensselaer County ought to have a Hall of Records like Albany County does! Short of that, however, you could bring the matter to the attention of Rensselaer County Historian Kathryn T. Sheehan http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyrensse/history.htm Some of the specific responsibilities mandated in law for historians are relevant to matters such as record books from the 1830s mouldering, unsecured, in a basement where they might (as seems to have been the case) disappear entirely: "It shall be the duty of each local historian, appointed as provided in the last section, in cooperation with the state historian, to collect and preserve material relating to the history of the political subdivision for which he or she is appointed, and to file such material in fireproof safes or vaults in the county, city, town or village offices. Such historian shall examine into the condition, classification and safety from fire of the public records of the public offices of such county, city, town or village, and shall call to the attention of the local authorities and the state historian any material of local historic value which should be acquired for preservation. He or she shall make an annual report, in the month of January, to the local appointing officer or officers and to the state historian of the work which has been accomplished during the preceding year.” N.Y. Arts & Cultural Affairs Law sec. 57.09 http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/services/historian/artslaw.html AFAIK, it’s been decades since a Rensselaer County Historian has sent in an annual report. There should also be a Rensselaer County Records Management Officer: “The governing body, and the chief executive official where one exists, shall promote and support a program for the orderly and efficient management of records, including the identification and appropriate administration of records with enduring value for historical or other research. Each local government shall have one officer who is designated as records management officer. This officer shall coordinate the development of and oversee such program and shall coordinate legal disposition, including destruction of obsolete records. […] In other units of government, except where the governing body shall have enacted a local law or ordinance establishing a records management program and designating a records management officer prior to the date that this article shall take effect, the chief executive official shall designate a local officer to be records management officer, subject to the approval of the governing body.” http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/libdev/excerpts/aca5719.htm "The Legislature also approved a resolution appointing a Records Management Officer, who will store and maintain county records in accordance with state law. District 2 resident Greg DeJulio will handle the duties as part of his work as Deputy County Clerk." http://www.rensselaercounty.org/Press%20Releases/2014%20Majority%20Report%20D2.htm “The Records Management Officer, or other official who carries out disposition, should describe what has been done to dispose of records during the year in an annual report to the governing body. [….] Records created before 1910 (even those which have been microfilmed) are not eligible for disposition without written permission from the State Archives.” http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/records/mr_pub_mi1_part1.shtml http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/workshops/workshops_handouts_rmo.shtml Whether Rensselaer County’s Records Management Officers have been making annual reports, I’d guess not, but I don’t know. If the early records books have been improperly destroyed or if they’ve been stolen, it should probably be reported to someone for investigation. Chris Philippo

They may have been filmed by the Family History Library. You can find the list of films available through them here: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyrenss2/naturalization/ > In Loretta Nial's index, I found a naturalization for a William Hurley, 6 > Nov 1839; vol. 2, pg. 4 (Rensselaer County Court). However, there is no > Vol. 2 to be found in the basement of the City Clerk's office (that covers > that date). Plenty of other Vol. 2's, but with much later dates. > Do any of you local folks know where these early volumes are? There is no > Vol. 1 either. They must have existed to get into her index, but perhaps > are > lost now? It's unfortunate that the basement record room is such a mess, > and so difficult to find things down there. Some volumes are labeled with > dates, others are not, with no particular order to the shelving. It's > quite > frustrating. > Thanks, > Rebecca > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com nymets22@gmail.com

Rebecca, Quite some years ago one of my brothers searched for our great-grandfather's in the basement of the City Clerk's office. He found the record in volume 2 of one of the volumes in the 1850's. I returned several years later and looked for the volume. As you noted the basement room was a mess and I spent several hours putting the books in order but never found the wanted Volume 2. I found it hard to believe that people would make such a mess of the room but there is no supervision. I discovered one book that had a page ripped out of it. I suspect the missing volume dis- appeared with a searcher.. Sad. Jim Owens

In Loretta Nial's index, I found a naturalization for a William Hurley, 6 Nov 1839; vol. 2, pg. 4 (Rensselaer County Court). However, there is no Vol. 2 to be found in the basement of the City Clerk's office (that covers that date). Plenty of other Vol. 2's, but with much later dates. Do any of you local folks know where these early volumes are? There is no Vol. 1 either. They must have existed to get into her index, but perhaps are lost now? It's unfortunate that the basement record room is such a mess, and so difficult to find things down there. Some volumes are labeled with dates, others are not, with no particular order to the shelving. It's quite frustrating. Thanks, Rebecca

On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 10:26:08 -0400, Rebecca Rector wrote: > Chris - that last item about Mt. Ida Cemetery is interesting. I don't think there are any markers for the "coloured population" that is apparently buried there. I wonder how many were buried in that special section? Maybe those Troy burial records on film at the library identified some of them. The burial records do identify some people as “colored.” If there are any who are identified by name, and if their graves are marked, it might be possible to work out where the section was - assuming the resolution was passed. August 6, 1835: “Resolved that the Burial Ground Committee be and they hereby are authorized to set a part a piece of Ground on the New Burial Ground in this City [Mount Ida Cemetery on Pawling Avenue] for the exclusive use of the Coloured population. The only headstone in the Pawling Ave cemetery I can remember belonging to an African-American is for: Absolom S. Bishop (1844-1893) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=119503881 Part of his headstone has cleaved off in a somewhat unusual way, seen in the photo at the above link. "Absalom Bishop, who died Thursday at Peekskill, will be buried to-morrow afternoon from the A. M. E. Zion church. The deceased was a well-known colored resident of this city. Among the colored people he was a sort of Beau Brummell, and his last days were almost as pathetic as those of his famous prototype. Despite the vagaries of fortune, Mr. Bishop remained the same courtly, dignified person. His beaver hat, long cuffs and cane were always retained. In his younger days he was famous as a whistler, and he could pour forth melody as sweet as the notes of a lark. Mr. Bishop was head waiter at the Troy house, the Mansion house and one of the large hotels at Saratoga during certain periods of his life. he was the son of Rev. Edward and Leah Bishop, and was in the prime of life." "Obituary." Troy Daily Times. April 1, 1893: 2 col 6. There seems to be a Liberty Street Presbyterian Church section in the back of New Mount Ida Cemetery, but I don’t know if that cemetery was otherwise segregated or not. Also at New Mount Ida, a number of African-American Civil War veterans according to “Their Last Resting-Place; Where the Veterans are Buried—Under the Tents of Green—Soldiers’ Graves to be Decorated.” Troy Daily Times. May 28, 1885: 1 cols 4-5: Stephen Batill, thirty-first colored Edward Hamlin, fourteenth regular, colored John Jackson, thirty-first regular, colored George Mason, second colored Andrew Van Schaack, twentieth regiment, colored Their headstones might be buried, or their graves unmarked, or possibly they were reinterred elsewhere, because the visible, readable headstones in that cemetery have pretty much all been added to findagrave, and those men’s names don’t turn up on findagrave. Chris

Two local events on Saturday 9/27/14: 1) 54th annual Stockade walk-about: http://schenectadyhistorical.org/54th-annual-stockade-walkabout/ 2) The Historical Society of the Town of Colonie and the Watervliet Historical Society cordially invites you to a special ceremony to dedicate a New Interpretive sign in Commemoration of the courage and the Bravery of ARENT VAN CURLER AND FR. ISAAC JOGUES. WHEN: Saturday, September 27, 2014—10:00 am WHERE: Schuyler Flatts Cultural Park Broadway, Menands, NY Arent Van Curler was a nephew of the first Patroon, Killiaen Van Rensselaer. Van Curler came to America in 1638 to be the administrator of the Manor of Rensselaerwick, and in 1643 established a home at present day Schuyler Flatts in Menands. Van Curler learned of the capture of a Jesuit missionary, Fr. Isaac Jogues, by the Mohawks, an determined to help the priest escape. Van Curler was instrumental in devising a plan for Jogues to flee his captors by boat, and the missionary was able to get away and return to France. To commemorate the courage of these two men, the Historical Society of the Town of Colonie cordially invites you to the unveiling ceremony of the new interpretive sign at the site where the Van Curler homestead once stood. Please join us for the official viewing of this historical marker. The ceremony is free and open to the public.

Chris - that last item about Mt. Ida Cemetery is interesting. I don't think there are any markers for the "coloured population" that is apparently buried there. I wonder how many were buried in that special section? Maybe those Troy burial records on film at the library identified some of them. Rebecca -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Philippo via Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:03 PM To: TIGS Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Troy City Council minutes The Troy Public Library’s collection of Troy City Council minutes have interesting content. It’s a shame so many years are missing; I don’t know if copies might exist elsewhere. May 1, 1809: “Resolved that the Number of Taverns licensed in the Village of Troy the present year shall not exceed Seventeen” December 1816: “Resolved That Messrs H Publes [Peebles?] Townsend Mc Coun & Gordon Corning be a Committee to procure some person to keep open holes in the ice in the river Hudson the present Winter to afford easy access to water in case of fires” August 1818: “Resolved that the ground lying between Albany Street River Street & Second Street shall be denominated & known by the name of Washington Square” December 9, 1830: “Resolved that his Honor the Mayor and Alderman McCoun be a Committee to enquire into the propriety & practicability of annexing that part of the County of Albany lying north of the south bounds of the tract of Ground laterly denominated Port Schuyler and South of the North bounds of the said County of Albany, and extending one mile West of the Hudson River, to the County of Rensselaer, and annexing a like portion of the County of Rensselaer, situated in the Town of Greenbush opposite the city of Albany, to the said County of Albany and that the said Committee report.” August 6, 1835: “Resolved that the Burial Ground Committee be and they hereby are authorized to set a part a piece of Ground on the New Burial Ground in this City [Mount Ida Cemetery on Pawling Avenue] for the exclusive use of the Coloured population.” ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Troy Public Library’s collection of Troy City Council minutes have interesting content. It’s a shame so many years are missing; I don’t know if copies might exist elsewhere. May 1, 1809: “Resolved that the Number of Taverns licensed in the Village of Troy the present year shall not exceed Seventeen” December 1816: “Resolved That Messrs H Publes [Peebles?] Townsend Mc Coun & Gordon Corning be a Committee to procure some person to keep open holes in the ice in the river Hudson the present Winter to afford easy access to water in case of fires” August 1818: “Resolved that the ground lying between Albany Street River Street & Second Street shall be denominated & known by the name of Washington Square” December 9, 1830: “Resolved that his Honor the Mayor and Alderman McCoun be a Committee to enquire into the propriety & practicability of annexing that part of the County of Albany lying north of the south bounds of the tract of Ground laterly denominated Port Schuyler and South of the North bounds of the said County of Albany, and extending one mile West of the Hudson River, to the County of Rensselaer, and annexing a like portion of the County of Rensselaer, situated in the Town of Greenbush opposite the city of Albany, to the said County of Albany and that the said Committee report.” August 6, 1835: “Resolved that the Burial Ground Committee be and they hereby are authorized to set a part a piece of Ground on the New Burial Ground in this City [Mount Ida Cemetery on Pawling Avenue] for the exclusive use of the Coloured population.”

An interment not at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/NailFactoryCemetery/NailFactoryCemeteryIntro.htm > DIED. > In this village, of Consumption, Feb. 20th, 1875 Mrs. Rebecca COLE PRIMMER, mother of Mr. John Primmer, of this village, aged 73 years. > -Her remains were taken to Troy for interment in the Nail Factory Cemetery. Oneonta Herald & Democrat http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NYOTSEGO/2005-02/1107989874 http://theusgenweb.org/ny/otsego/vitals/oneontaherald11.html Also, it turns out Weise made an error regarding the conveyance of the cemetery: "The Sixth Ward Cemetery, on the hill-side west of Vandenburgh Avenue, near the Burden Iron Company’s upper works, is a small plat of ground, which was conveyed May 17, 1836, to the city by the Troy Nail Factory Company, to be used as a public burial ground for that part of the city." Weise, Arthur James. The City of Troy and Its Vicinity. Troy, NY: Edward Green, 1886. 55. http://books.google.com/books?id=J1wVAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55 The conveyance isn’t to be found in the Troy Common Council Minutes for May 17, 1836 but rather March 17, 1836: > Mr. Alderman Ford presented a deed from the Nail factory Company for an acre of land in the Sixth Ward, to the Corporation of said City in Trust to be used as a public burial Ground for the Inhabitants of the Sixth Ward, & particularly for the use of persons imployed at or about the nail factory. > Resolved that the Common Council accept the said Trust, and that a certificate of such acceptance be verified under the Common Seal and the Signature of the Mayor. > Resolved that it be referred to the Standing Committee of the Public Burial Grounds to inquire & report what further improvements are necessary for the public Burial Ground located in the Sixth Ward of this City.