The Waterford Historical Museum is hosting two events in December On Friday, December 5th at 7pm, the museum will be hosting its annual holiday wine and cheese night. Come enjoy some of New York State's finest wines, provided by the Wine Seller at Harmony House Market Palce, coupled with a variety of cheeses, fruit, and more. In addition Roger Savoy of the Homebrew Emporium will be in attendance selling wine making supplies and other items. Admission is $10 On Tuesday, December 9th, the *Waterford Historical Museum* will be continuing the winter lecture series with a presentation by Sloane Bullogh about *Christmas in Troy: The origins of 'Twas the Night Before Christmas and Jingle Bells. *Cost is $5 for museum members nd $6 for non-members. The lecture will start at 7pm and be held at Chrome Food and Spirits (formerly Costanzas) located at 405 Hudson River Road but you are welcome to arrive earlier for a meal from Chrome's menu. http://waterfordmuseumblog.blogspot.com/2014/11/the-waterford-historical-museum-has-two.html

Hello, Friends, Hope you all had a pleasant Thanksgiving holiday with family and friends. Irish Central this morning has a story on the conditions in Roscommon created by Famine based on the Mahon estate archive and as analyzed by Ciaran Reilly in his new book, Strokestown and the Great Irish Famine. Here's a link to that story: http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/Roscommon-archive-reveals-in-fighting-and-criminality-among-Irish-during-Great-Hunger.html I have not yet seen the book though I ordered it in early September through Amazon. I canceled that order today (it was taking too long) and will now try to get it sooner through the publisher, Four Courts Press, in Ireland. If you recall there was a book launch event for it at the Famine Museum in Strokestown on Nov. 19, so it is "out." Best Wishes to All, Mary Lee Dunn

I’ve listed below some of the Nail Factory Cemetery interments from the Troy burial books that Frances D. Broderick missed in her own collection. It’s far from a complete list of her omissions, as I haven’t even approached getting through all the records yet. I collected some towards the beginning of the records that specify the place of interment and some towards the end. Some of the surnames are ones that aren’t represented in her collection at all, like Ball and Brown. Others, like Chapman and Darby, she had recorded interments for other people with those surnames. The original records are at times quite sloppy, or are clear but contain dubious spelling. Ball, Mary J. August 12, 1853 Brown, Sarah July 25, 1855 Chapman, Mary September 11, 1853 Curtis, George November 4, 1856 Darby, Catherine M. August 8, 1854 Gibson, James December 1, 1856 Gibson, Jenny December 16, 1856 [on FDB’s list, but w/o first name] Laney, Bessie June 17, 1884 McCrie, Margaret October 3, 1856 McPherson, Alexander November 1, 1853 Norton, Mary Ann July 10, 1855 Osgood, Raschal September 1, 1854 Ostrander, William December 14, 1854 Price, David February 6, 1856 Schober, C. A. C. May 31, 1854 Thompson, Robert February 12, 1856 Vaughn, William H. May 7, 1884 I’d mentioned before that the Troy burial books have some interments recorded for the old Cohoes City Cemetery (the one moved to Crescent where only about twenty graves are marked out of perhaps 1,000 or so) and Calvary Cemetery in Cohoes (the one where most headstones were buried or removed in the 1950s), and St. John’s Cemetery in Albany (the one whose records TIGS transcribed). There’s some interments for most places in Rensselaer County, including Albia, Brunswick, Buskirk Bridge, Grafton, Greenbush, Hoosick Falls, Petersburg, Pittstown, Poestenkill, Quackenkill, Sand Lake, Schaghticoke, Schodack, Stephentown, Valley Falls, West Sand Lake, and Wynantskill. There’s some interments for places in other counties, including Albany, Cayuga, Clinton, Columbia, Dutchess, Essex, Fulton, Greene, Herkimer, Monroe, Oneida, Onondaga, Otsego, Putnam, Saratoga, Schenectady, Suffolk, Ulster, Washington, Westchester, and NYC. There’s some interments for places in Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Vermont, and in Canada. (There’s also some that are quite vague, like “in the country” and “out west” - or which leave the place of interment blank.) These are records that would be of interest to more than just people from Troy. Chris

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/NailFactoryCemetery/NailFactoryCemeteryIntro.htm In looking at microfilm of the Troy burial records, I’m finding Frances Broderick made a number of transcription errors and/or typos in compiling her list of Nail Factory Cemetery interments. John Armsbury in her collection, for example, is very clearly John Armstrong in the interment records. William S. Laney looks like be William J. Laney, and according to the interment records died at 10y and 10d, not 2y as she has. She also missed quite a few from beginning to end, though one’s eyes do tend to glaze after staring at the records for hours. One sad one is Sarah Brown, 3y, born in Scotland and died of Influenza on a steamboat, on the way over perhaps. Chris Philippo

> Field, Elizabeth > March 31, 1861 > Elizabeth, born in Pelham, Massachusetts, lived at the Nail Factory. She died of old age at age 90 years, 6 months and 24 days. Her father was A. Johnson. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/NailFactoryCemetery/NailFactoryCemetery_Cos-G.htm > FIELD—In this city, on Saturday, March 30th, at the residence of her daughter, Mrs. Frances Sears, at the Nail Works, Elizabeth Field, widow of the late Jonathan Field, aged 90 years 6 months and 26 days. > Funeral Monday afternoon [April 1st], at 3 o’clock, from the residence of her daughter. > New York Times and Amherst, Mass., papers please copy. Troy Daily Whig. April 1, 1861: 3 col 4. On the 1860 US Census she was living with Edwin Sears, Frances Sears, Eliza Branshaw (possibly a widowed daughter?) and Effie F. Branshaw. I’m going to try looking up on the microfilms of the Troy burial books some of the entries from Frances Broderick’s transcriptions from those books. Hopefully the entries will be readable enough. Frances Broderick had not transcribed all the information, like causes of death. Chris

Chris is you happen to find a petition, please post and I want very much to sign it.  I use to do photo request for "Find a Grave" until it became to crazy with people asking in the dead of winter when you can't see markers under feet of snow.  One of the most depressing was having the exact location for a grave and not finding any head/grave marker.  But worst was when it was also a veteran and the stone had become so weather worn, damaged, destroyed or no marker at all and that was hard.  All graves deserve a marker, but many families hardly had the money necessary to bury their loved one and the marker/stone was a luxury.  Where my great great grandparents are buried, their head stone was broken off at the base and the top half was buried in the sod.   After one my cousins spoke with the cemetery, he was informed they do repair and/or replace with as close to same/similar marker as possible at no cost to the family.   So my great great grandparents have a new, identical head stone, Grandpa's DOD1860 and Grandma's DOD 1870.   Our families made a nice donation to the cemetery once we found out this information.   Sally Finley Harloff On Friday, November 28, 2014 12:38 PM, Christopher Philippo via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: Not much time to compose comments, but I’m glad they e-mailed me.  I think I’d filled out a petition or something that got me on a mailing list. Chris > From: NCA Grave Marker Shared Mailbox <ncagraves@va.gov> > To: 'Christopher Philippo' <toff@me.com> > Date: November 28, 2014 at 1:07:48 PM EST > Subject: RE: Marking the graves of America’s veterans > > ***THIS IS AN AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED MESSAGE - PLEASE DO NOT REPLY*** > > Thank you for your email regarding “Marking the graves of America’s veterans” and the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) regulatory definition of “applicant” for purposes of applying for a Government-furnished headstone or marker. > > The National Cemetery Administration (NCA) of the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) proposes to amend its regulations regarding applications for headstones or markers.  VA is proposing to amend the definition of “applicant,” set forth in 38 CFR 38.632, as it pertains to individuals requesting VA headstones or markers.  In 2009, VA implemented the existing definition of applicant to include the decedent’s next of kin (NOK), a person authorized in writing by NOK, or a personal representative authorized in writing by the decedent.  An individual who met the definition was authorized to apply for a Government-furnished headstone or marker, or a new emblem of belief for inscription on a Government-furnished headstone or marker.    > > Since 2009, VA has received a number of requests from individuals who did not meet the current definition of applicant for headstones or markers. VA has acknowledged concerns that the current regulatory definition of applicant was too restrictive and resulted in identified Veteran gravesites going unmarked.  VA shares the goal to ensure appropriate recognition of Veterans who served the United States and proposes to revise the definition of applicant to ease the restrictive aspects of the definition and allow more individuals to apply for headstones or markers, including memorial headstones or markers. > > On October 1, 2014, the National Cemetery Administration (NCA) of the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) published in the Federal Register, a proposed rule to amend the existing definition of eligible applicants by expanding the types of individuals who may request headstones or markers on behalf of decedents.  VA is seeking input from Veterans, family members and other stakeholders regarding a proposed change to its definition of who may apply for a headstone or marker.  Those wishing to review and comment on the proposed changes are encouraged to do so by searching for “National Cemetery Administration” or “2900-AO95” at www.regulations.gov.  Comments must be received on or before December 1, 2014. > > Thank you for your interest in the Government Headstone and Marker Program. > > Sincerely, > > National Cemetery Administration > Department of Veterans Affairs ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**.  See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Comments can be left at http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketDetail;D=VA-2014-VACO-0020 where the legislation is briefly summarized. For more information about the proposed changes see: http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=VA-2014-VACO-0020-0001 http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=VA-2014-VACO-0020-0082 My inclination is to support the proposed changes. It would be a big improvement on how things stand currently. Chris Philippo

Not much time to compose comments, but I’m glad they e-mailed me. I think I’d filled out a petition or something that got me on a mailing list. Chris > From: NCA Grave Marker Shared Mailbox <ncagraves@va.gov> > To: 'Christopher Philippo' <toff@me.com> > Date: November 28, 2014 at 1:07:48 PM EST > Subject: RE: Marking the graves of America’s veterans > > ***THIS IS AN AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED MESSAGE - PLEASE DO NOT REPLY*** > > Thank you for your email regarding “Marking the graves of America’s veterans” and the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) regulatory definition of “applicant” for purposes of applying for a Government-furnished headstone or marker. > > The National Cemetery Administration (NCA) of the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) proposes to amend its regulations regarding applications for headstones or markers. VA is proposing to amend the definition of “applicant,” set forth in 38 CFR 38.632, as it pertains to individuals requesting VA headstones or markers. In 2009, VA implemented the existing definition of applicant to include the decedent’s next of kin (NOK), a person authorized in writing by NOK, or a personal representative authorized in writing by the decedent. An individual who met the definition was authorized to apply for a Government-furnished headstone or marker, or a new emblem of belief for inscription on a Government-furnished headstone or marker. > > Since 2009, VA has received a number of requests from individuals who did not meet the current definition of applicant for headstones or markers. VA has acknowledged concerns that the current regulatory definition of applicant was too restrictive and resulted in identified Veteran gravesites going unmarked. VA shares the goal to ensure appropriate recognition of Veterans who served the United States and proposes to revise the definition of applicant to ease the restrictive aspects of the definition and allow more individuals to apply for headstones or markers, including memorial headstones or markers. > > On October 1, 2014, the National Cemetery Administration (NCA) of the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) published in the Federal Register, a proposed rule to amend the existing definition of eligible applicants by expanding the types of individuals who may request headstones or markers on behalf of decedents. VA is seeking input from Veterans, family members and other stakeholders regarding a proposed change to its definition of who may apply for a headstone or marker. Those wishing to review and comment on the proposed changes are encouraged to do so by searching for “National Cemetery Administration” or “2900-AO95” at www.regulations.gov. Comments must be received on or before December 1, 2014. > > Thank you for your interest in the Government Headstone and Marker Program. > > Sincerely, > > National Cemetery Administration > Department of Veterans Affairs

http://doesnotevenrhyme.blogspot.com/2014/11/the-thanksgiving-turkey-by-hc-dodge-1886.html It’s not Troy or cemetery-related. It’s a turkey-shaped poem about Thanksgiving. A Tofurkey-shaped poem would be much easier to compose, but would have much less visual appeal (not unlike Tofurkey) I’ve self-published a couple collections of H.C. Dodge’s poetry (they’re on Amazon) and have been developing a Collected Works since he’d generally only had his poems published in newspapers or occasionally magazines, and in a few cases a couple poems anthologized in works of humorous poetry. Chris

http://gravelyny.blogspot.com/2014/11/turkey-day-at-cemetery.html

sorry I didn't see them. Hope you found them by now. Have a Happy Thanksgiving, noreen On 11/21/2014 10:06 AM, Keefe@lists2.rootsweb.com wrote: > Hi everyone, > By any chance did anyone see or pick up my glasses last night? I think I left them, but the pub doesn't have them and I'm hoping someone might have taken them home. > Thanks much, > Jeanne > > Jeanne M. Keefe > Architecture Library Librarian > Architecture Library, Greene Building > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute > 110 8th Street, Troy, NY 12180 > Tel: 518-276-2727 > Fax: 518-276-6753 > E-mail: keefej@rpi.edu > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Stop by and say hi to our TIGS members that will be manning an information table at the RCHS during the Victorian Stroll in downtown Troy on Sunday, December 7th. While there don't miss the RCHS Greens Show which was the original inspiration for the Victorian Stroll.....see you then.... If any TIGS members would like to man the table for an hour or so please email me kris6851@aol.com Some of us will be dressing in period clothing but you don't have to in order to participate. Kris Ayotte

Chris, As always, thank you for keeping us informed with your findings/ postings. I will mark this date for next year. This sounds interesting.... Happy Thanksgiving! Sent from my iPad > On Nov 26, 2014, at 7:03 PM, Christopher Philippo via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > New York Chapter of the Association for Gravestone Studies > Save the Date! Our spring meeting will be our first event held upstate. It will take place on April 18th at St. Agnes Cemetery in Menands, near Albany. > https://www.facebook.com/New.York.Chapter.AGS > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

New York Chapter of the Association for Gravestone Studies Save the Date! Our spring meeting will be our first event held upstate. It will take place on April 18th at St. Agnes Cemetery in Menands, near Albany. https://www.facebook.com/New.York.Chapter.AGS

“Local officials desiring to dispose of any records created before 1910 should telephone or write [the State Archives and Records Administration] SARA, to obtain disposition request forms. This requirement also applies to the disposition of original records predating 1910 which have been microfilmed. SARA will review each request and advise the local government on retention or disposition of the records” (x). > CEMETERY > 1.[63] Record of lot owners, “deed book," or equivalent record: > RETENTION: PERMANENT > 2.[64] Bill of sale issued to purchaser of lots: > RETENTION: 6 years > ♦3.[65] Informational copy of deed for lot, request for deed to be prepared, or request for copy of deed: > RETENTION: 0 after no longer needed > 4.[66] Inscription taken from headstones: > RETENTION: PERMANENT > 5.[67] Interment, exhumation or removal records: > RETENTION: PERMANENT > 6.[68] Maps, plot plans and surveys: > RETENTION: PERMANENT > 7.[69] Permit of approval necessary to erect monument or perform other work on cemetery lot, including application and related records: > RETENTION: 6 years (24) Records Retention and Disposition Schedule MU-1 for Use by Cities, Towns, Villages, Fire Districts. 2003. http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/records/mr_pub_mu1.pdf http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/records/mr_pub_mu1.shtml With respect to the Rensselaer County Almshouse Cemetery in Troy (abandoned, located somewhere around Griswold Heights Apartments and east of St. Joseph’s Cemetery): > 20.[633] Cemetery records relating to alms house or county home, including but not limited to interment, exhumation or removal records; inscriptions from headstones; burial permits; and maps or surveys of grave locations: > RETENTION: PERMANENT (218) Records Retention and Disposition Schedule CO-2 for Use by Counties. 2006. http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/records/mr_pub_co2.pdf

Hi everyone, By any chance did anyone see or pick up my glasses last night? I think I left them, but the pub doesn't have them and I'm hoping someone might have taken them home. Thanks much, Jeanne Jeanne M. Keefe Architecture Library Librarian Architecture Library, Greene Building Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 110 8th Street, Troy, NY 12180 Tel: 518-276-2727 Fax: 518-276-6753 E-mail: keefej@rpi.edu

Excluding the veterans already posted on the 19th, following is an almost a complete list of stones from which dirt or vines and weeds were removed, or reset, etc. I still have to post some before or after photos for some of these, transcribe more, etc. The total of veterans and non-veterans I think is over fifty, though the number of headstones involved a bit under fifty due to the number of headstones that are shared by multiple people like the Grealish and Ryan stones. This was all in OC-1, OC-2 and OC-3 (see sketched map at http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pis&PIcrid=66144&PIMode=cemetery&PIpi=15726138& ) Thomas Henry Brennan http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139030695 James Busby (1822-1858) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=136847662 Letizia Canepa (1889-1916) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=138981174 Mary Jane Cavanaugh (1853-1853) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139032236 Mary Ann Devine http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139032112 John Fishback (1810- 1860) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=138976984 William Foley (1811-1867) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139031741 Ann Foley (1815-1867) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139031868 [?] Grealish (d. 1856) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139031967 Mary Grealish http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=138981527 Patrick Grealish (1848-1853) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=138981461 John Horan (1836-1851) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=138972983 Mary Dunn Knell (d. 1910) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=138997539 Patrick Lally (1856-1857) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139031239 Michael Lally (1855-1858) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139031308 Elisabeth Lavine (1896-1918) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=108284173 Daniel Lyons (1851-1853) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139031490 [father of Timothy] Lyons http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139036208 Catherine McCord (1817-1859) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=136849919 Nancy McLean (1834- 1857) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139033895 Eliza J. McLeese (1831-1856) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139033948 Mary Agness McLeese (1854-1855) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139033966 James McManus (1793-1850) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=136848237 Michael Miley Michael Miley http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139044939 Timothy O’Brien (1816-1870) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139032473 Julia O’Brien (d. 1854?) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139033153 Daniel O’Day (1819-1852) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=138982905 James Ryan (1814-1854) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=39672017 Thomas Ryan (1843-1866) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=39672109 Patrick Ryan (1845-1871) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=138561056 Nora Ryan (1817-1890) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=42263696 Daniel Ryan (1824-1854) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=136847778 Catharine [?] Feb 11 1858? Mary [?] June 7, 1858 William [?] Feb 6?, 1858? [?] [?] http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139046203 John [?] http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139046660 Chris

Thought this might interest: Cemetery History Unearthed! Norm Wiley, president of Castleton's Mountain View Cemetery Association, presents a program on that cemetery's history at our next meeting on November 21 at 7 PM. The meeting will be held at Schodack Town Hall. Mr. Wiley will also talk about cemeteries that pre-date Mountain View's incorporation in 1855 and will bring maps and early records. All genealogists and local historians are encouraged to attend. Admission is free. Refreshments will be served.

> Drohen Martin Waterford Ireland Albany April 23, 1848 45 years [born about 1803] […] 20 http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/StJohnsCemetery_Albany/StJohnsCemetery-Albany-Dow-Dum.htm A Martin Drohan, presumably that very one, was one of over 360 Irish men who signed an 1847 dinner invitation to former NYS Governor William Henry Seward. For the text of the invitation, which is lengthy and I have not completely transcribed, follow the link. The list of names following the invitation, which I have not completely transcribed either, might be of some genealogical interest. > It will be seen, from the following Correspondence, which we take much pleasure in publishing, that the Irish citizens of Albany, irrespective of party, have tendered to GOV. SEWARD, as a testimony of their personal regard, the honor of a PUBLIC DINNER—an honor which, though declined, is appropriately and gratefully acknowledged and appreciated: > ALBANY, June 19, 1847. > Wm. H. Seward,— > Dear Sir,—Your welcome presence in the city affords the opportunity of accomplishing a desire long entertained by a large class of your fellow-citizens of foreign birth, to invite you to a public entertainment. It is needless here to enumerate the reasons which induce them to offer this feeble testimonial of their regard to one whose advocacy of their rights has elicited the grateful expressions of the liberal of all classes here and elsewhere. Yet it may not be deemed inappropriate, nor we trust offensive to your modesty, briefly to allude to one or two of the prominent circumstances which gives you such a lasting claim on the gratitude and esteem of those on whose behalf we have the honor to address you. > The descendants and friends of unhappy and down-trodden Ireland, on this side of the Atlantic, had scarcely organized to aid their suffering brethren at home in the recovery of their long-lost rights, ere you boldly and manfully came forward and gave the strength of your name and position, and the power and brilliancy of your eloquence, to the movement; and the efficient aid thus lent is doubly enhanced by the fact, that the great majority of those for whose country and in whose cause you had thus enlisted, have ever been opposed to the local political principles of yourself and party. It was in the dark hour, when the evil spirit of Nativism became riotous and rampant, and threatened to desolate the land; when the torch was applied to the sacred edifices of those whose extermination or banishment was sought, and the blood of those who opposed their designs murderously shed, that you showed yourself a true man in resisting the onward march and success of this once powerf! ul, but now happily defunct, party. […] > Be pleased therefore, dear sire, to accept the tender of a public dinner, to be given you by the adopted citizens of Albany at the time and place earliest suited to your convenience. Your acceptance of this invitation will much oblige them as well as the undersigned, who on their behalf, as well as individually, have the honor to subscribe themselves. Your Friends and Fellow-Citizens. > James Maher, Matthew McMahon, John Tracey, > Timothy O’Brien, William Hawe, Thomas Noonan, > Michael Cooney, Michael Moran, Mat’w Campion, > John Cooney, Patrick O’Connor, Thos. Campion, > Patrick Murphy, Patrick Powers, Red’d Campion, > Charles Quin, Wm. Carroll, Wm. Hacket, > James Heffernan John O’Brien, Mich’l Hacket, > Jas. Birmingham, John Hart, John Hacket, > William Walsh, Michael Clarke, John Gorman, […] "Public Dinner to Gov. Seward." Albany Evening Journal. June 29, 1847: 2 col 3. http://fultonhistory.com/Newspapers%20Disk3/Albany%20NY%20Evening%20Journal/Albany%20NY%20Evening%20Journal%201847.pdf/Albany%20NY%20Evening%20Journal%201847%20-%200571.pdf > THE LOST PEDLAR FOUND. Martin Drohan, of Albany, a pedlar, was in this city on the 7th last. In the evening he left the tavern of James Brady, on the corner of North Second and Federal streets, and suddenly disappeared. As he was supposed to have considerable money about him, the opinion prevailed that he had met with foul play and was murdered for his money. On Saturday the body was found in the River near the Nail Factory Dock. He had, probably under the bewilderment of liquor, strolled towards the bridge and missed his way, and fell into the river at the foot of Federal street, about 2 1/2 miles from where he was found — A memorandum book with his name in it found in his picket, with a scar on one tumb, enabled his friends to recognize the body. One $5 bill, and $8.47 in change was found in his pocket. Verdict, “Accidental Drowning.” [Post. Troy Daily Whig. April 25, 1848: 2 col 5. > John Drohan, who passed away at his home at West Neck on Tuesday, Aug. 7, at 2 A.M., was born in the city of Albany, June 4, 1841. He was the son of Martin Drohan, a builder of Albany, and lived in that city until he was about twelve years of age, when his father died and he came to New York city, where his brother was living, working in Washington Market. After going to school for a while, he later went to work in the market with his brother. In 1860 he started in business for himself in the market, and after a short time took his brother in partnership with him, the business being conducted under the style of J. & M. Drohan. The business was exceedingly prosperous and grew to large dimensions. During busy seasons it would run high up in the thousands some days. They had made during the war, on more than one morning, $4,000 clear money before breakfast-time. John was very ambitious and sometimes went three or four days with hardly a wink of sleep. His business wa! s largely a night business and his restless energy kept him on the go continually. The firm shipped goods all over the country. Although he had an iron constitution, it broke down under this treatment and in 1870 he retired from business and came out to Northport, where he lived for three years. he then went down to the city, where he engaged in business again and started the present business in the market. he afterwards removed to Washington street, where he took Mr. A. K. Powell, of Farmingdale, in with him, the business being conducted at first under the name of Drohan & Co., and afterwards Drohan & Powell. Five years ago they separated and Mr. Drohan took his two sons, Henry and John, Jr., in with him, the name under which it is conducted to-day. Mr. Drohan moved to Huntington eighteen years ago, coming from Herkimer street, Brooklyn. He has had none children, seven of whom, John, Jr., Henry, Lizzie, (Mrs. F.) Stratton), Lydia, Chauncey, Morris and Louie, are now! living. > Deceased was a successful man in his business, having at one time amassed quite a fortune. He had business connections all over the country with hotel people and retail dealers, the name of Drohan & Co., being known from Maine to Texas. Their specialty was poultry and game and there were no better judges of this class of merchandise anywhere. He was the pioneer in the refrigerator business, he being the leading spirit in the establishment of the large Barclay St. Freezing Co. They built a great structure fourteen stories high for the purposes of this business. > He retired from active participation in the business a year or more ago on account of failing health. He has travelled on health and business nearly all over this country, made a large number of pleasant acquaintanceships. There was hardly a butcher or poultry dealer in New York city who did not know the firm. > He was very kind to the poor and gave away thousands of dollars directly in charity. At his stand in the market every Saturday night could be seen a string of twenty-five or thirty poor people each waiting for a chicken or turkey, and they never went away empty-handed. Sometimes he would have a little fun with them and drive them off with a broomstick, but they never left until they received their allowance. He gave away hundreds of dollars to poor people of this town. His hospitality was great. he would frequently get up a great game supper and invite a large number of people from the village down to his house and everyone went away filled. He had almost unlimited trust in others and hundreds borrowed money of him which was never returned and large accounts against poor debtors were never pressed. When his books were settled up for the beginning of the new firm five years ago, over $30,000 in accounts were found on them which were marked off as given up. Every Ch! ristmas he gave from $25 to $50 worth of poultry to the Newsboys’ Lodging House in New York. He was always liberal with the Sisters of Charity. He was always ready to befriend any unfortunate ones. One instance we relate: One time he heard the story of a poor Baltimore dealer named Lydecker, who had been “done up” by a confidence man on his arrival in New York, and had lost over $700 which he had brought on with him to buy goods. Mr. Drohan went to the confidence dealer and asked him to refund the amount, which he promptly did on Mr. Drohan’s demand. Lydecker never forgot the favor. > He was a member of the old New York Volunteer Fire Department and later of the Huntington Fire Department. He was a warm friend of education and always spoke a good word for the Huntington Union School, where a number of his sons and daughters graduated. He was quite a reader and took a delight in historical works. He was well read up in Shakespeare and frequently quoted him at length. He was for many years a Free Mason and belonged to Jephtha Lodge of this village at the time of his death. > His funeral services were held at his residence on Thursday afternoon, there being a very large gathering of our townspeople present on the occasion. The chief officers of the Fire Department and the officers of the various companies were present; also the members of Jephtha Lodge, F. & A. M. There were also present a number of prominent representatives of the meat and [?] trade of New York city. [Funeral?] services were conducted by Rev. Mr. Turner, of St. John’s, and [funeral?] rites were performed at [?] in the Huntington Rural [bottom of first column of article cropped] > townspeople, poor and rich. We extend to the members of the bereaved family our sympathy in this their hour of great trial. “John Drohan.” Long-Islander [Huntington, NY]. August 11, 1894: 3 cols 5-6. John Drohan (1841-1894) Huntington Rural Cemetery, Suffolk County, NY http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=51770930 Named for him, John Drohan Stratton, b. 1894 in Huntington: http://longislandsurnames.com/getperson.php?personID=I4114&tree=Gildersleeve There’s a lot of Drohans in Huntington. At least one was very long-lived, John Henry Drohan (1896-1996) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=65661590 Chris

LAST FIRST COUNTY NATION DIED AT DATE AGE PAGE > Droghan Betsay Cork Ireland Albany May 1, 1852 45 years [born about 1807] 73 > Drohen Martin Waterford Ireland Albany April 23, 1848 45 years [born about 1803] […] 20 http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/StJohnsCemetery_Albany/StJohnsCemetery-Albany-Dow-Dum.htm [Children of?] Martin & Elizabeth DROHAN. ELIZABETH, died Sept. 28, 1847, aged 8 Years & 4 Months. ANN, died Sept. 29, 1847 aged 1 Year & 4 Mo. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Mt-S77wZKfUFRuRGF1QlE3NWM/view?usp=sharing