On Dec 14, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Christine Connell <christine.connell@gmail.com> wrote: > Apparently poetry publishing was not confined to Troy newspapers. True, though Oxford University Press Anthology of Modern American Poetry editor Cary Nelson had written me, “The newspaper practice was usually to reprint poems from anywhere without attribution, but Troy suggests more editorial involvement in a local/regional poetry scene.” I’ll have to check out that article in the library. Chris

Chris - I do enjoy reading the interesting things you dig up! Apparently poetry publishing was not confined to Troy newspapers. Here's a link to a claim that local newspapers were the largest publishers of 19th century poetry (see https://muse.jhu.edu/login?auth=0&type=summary&url=/journals/victorian_poetry/v052/52.1.hobbs.html ) On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Christopher Philippo via < ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > It’s not a great poem - most of the ones I find aren’t - but I continue to > find it interesting just how many poems were published in Troy newspapers > by Troy authors. > > >

“A Christmas Ride" poem by Mrs. Le Grand Benedict (1870) http://doesnotevenrhyme.blogspot.com/2014/12/a-christmas-ride-by-mrs-le-grand.html It’s not a great poem - most of the ones I find aren’t - but I continue to find it interesting just how many poems were published in Troy newspapers by Troy authors. Emma Frances Gardner (1847-1932) had married Colonel Le Grand Benedict (1842-1912), both of Troy; they lived in Lansingburgh then moved to Brooklyn. I believe they’re both buried in Oakwood Cemetery. There’s at least a few different origin stories for Eggs Benedict, one attributing it to Mrs. Le Grand Benedict: "To the Editor: I am writing to correct the statement by Edward P. Montgomery concerning the origin of Eggs Benedict, as reported recently by Craig Claiborne. The true story, well known to the relations of Mrs. LeGrand Benedict, of whom I am one, is as follows. Mr. and Mrs. Benedict, when they lived in New York around the turn of the century, lunched every Saturday at Delmonico's. One day Mrs. Benedict said to the maitre d'hotel, 'Haven't you anything new or different to suggest?' On his reply that he would like to hear something new from her, she suggested poached eggs on toasted English muffins with a thin slice of ham, hollandaise sauce and a truffle on top. This recipe has gone around the world. Commodore E. C. Benedict, who was given the credit, was a cousin and undoubtedly enjoyed these eggs, but it would have been unlike him to have called them his inventions. The name is occasionally given, erroneously, as 'Eggs Benedictine.'--Mabel C. Butler, Vineyard Haven, Mass." ---Letters to the Editor, New York Times, November 26, 1967 (p. SM 40) http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodeggs.html Le Grand Benedict’s mansion in Lansingburgh was demolished in 1941. It’s pictured in Don Rittner’s Lansingburgh book https://books.google.com/books?id=srTW2Rf-JxoC&pg=PA19 and in an article about the Benedicts by the late Frances Broderick http://fultonhistory.com/Newspaper%2018/Troy%20NY%20Times%20Record/Troy%20NY%20Times%20Record%201971/Troy%20NY%20Times%20Record%201971%20-%207251.pdf A fire station’s located there now. Chris

Not the same book - but I do believe that the Watervliet Museum has both books for sale. I checked Amazon and the Myers book is available to order there, but not the Cerri one. On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Kris6851 <kris6851@aol.com> wrote: > > Christine, I put this book on my Christmas wish list.......are they > connected in any way? > History of the city of Watervliet, N.Y., 1630 to 1910 > <http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0048ELCE2/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=143SI1WVNVQYT&coliid=I3H9UZPTU4PJKV> > by James Thorn Myers > > >

Christine, I put this book on my Christmas wish list.......are they connected in any way? History of the city of Watervliet, N.Y., 1630 to 1910 by James Thorn Myers Saturday Afternoon Matinee at the Museum. On Saturday December 13th at 1:00 PM,the Watervliet Historical Society will be showing "A History of Watervliet " by Lawrence J. Cerri. Come and join us at the museum and learn about some of the history of Watervliet. 1501 1st Avenue, Watervliet, NY 12189 (518) 272-0715 ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Saturday Afternoon Matinee at the Museum. On Saturday December 13th at 1:00 PM,the Watervliet Historical Society will be showing "A History of Watervliet " by Lawrence J. Cerri. Come and join us at the museum and learn about some of the history of Watervliet. 1501 1st Avenue, Watervliet, NY 12189 (518) 272-0715

Contact Immaculate Heart of Mary in Watervliet. They hold the records for St. Joseph's Green Island.  The archivist's contact info is below. Tom Hanley - thanley@ihm.rcpw.org Phone: 518 273-6020 Donna Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® III <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Jennifer via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> </div><div>Date:12/11/2014 9:19 PM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC@rootsweb.com </div><div>Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] St. Joseph's Catholic Church Green Island </div><div> </div>Hello TIGS Group, I am seeking a Green Island marriage record from sometime between 1894 to 1905. Family baptisms were performed at St. Joseph's Catholic Church in Green Island so I am making an assumption that the marriage was likely performed at this church. Does anyone know where these church records are located and would you advise me on whether there is a way to get a search done for the marriage record? Thank you very much for your advice. Jen C ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello TIGS Group, I am seeking a Green Island marriage record from sometime between 1894 to 1905. Family baptisms were performed at St. Joseph's Catholic Church in Green Island so I am making an assumption that the marriage was likely performed at this church. Does anyone know where these church records are located and would you advise me on whether there is a way to get a search done for the marriage record? Thank you very much for your advice. Jen C

Jen Records for St Joseph's are at Immaculate Heart of Mary in Watervliet. Tom Hanley, the church archivist will do a search for you. The church requests a $20 donation to do a search. Tom works two days a week, usually Thursday and Friday. You can contact him by phone (518) 273-6020 or email thanley@ihm.rcpw.org > On Dec 11, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Jennifer via <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello TIGS Group, > > I am seeking a Green Island marriage record from sometime between 1894 to 1905. Family baptisms were performed at St. Joseph's Catholic Church in Green Island so I am making an assumption that the marriage was likely performed at this church. Does anyone know where these church records are located and would you advise me on whether there is a way to get a search done for the marriage record? > > Thank you very much for your advice. > > Jen C

Looking forward to seeing the St. Patrick's transcriptions. Rebecca -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Philippo via Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:06 AM To: TIGS Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] St. Patrick's records I’ll try to have my transcriptions from photos of headstones in the old sections of St. Patrick’s done by the time of the next meeting. I should have notes on which subsection they’re in, OC-1 (which I divided into OC-1 north and OC-1 south), and OC-2 through OC-6. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pis&PIcrid=66144&PIMode=cemetery&PIpi=15726138& To some extent I noted more specific locations, ranges within the subsections, but I know Tom Hanley would like a proper map if possible and I’m hoping with Mapping & Documenting Cemeteries http://www.amazon.com/Mapping-Documenting-Cemeteries-Pamela-Goffinet/dp/149289348X/ (which I own) that might indeed be feasible. I’d have had it completed earlier, but partly had been very frustrated by Excel scrambling a lot of the data I’d entered, and partly have been distracted by other things. I hadn’t had Attention Deficit Disorder Association as a child, but I think I might as an adult! Or perhaps I’m just interested & involved in too many things. Did anyone go to the Trial Before Christmas? I did - it was fun! It doesn’t look like there was as much coverage of it this time around - the “jury” came to the decision that Henry Livingston was the author of the poem. I think that might have been due in large part to a descendant of his (genealogist Mary Van Deusen) being a participant, a nice concession to that family that has for generations believed him to be the author. I remain undecided, though for the purpose of the mock trial I too probably would have gone with Livingston. http://www.bizjournals.com/albany/morning_call/2014/12/troys-mock-trial-of-famous-christmas-poem-draws.html http://www.oneidadispatch.com/general-news/20141208/who-wrote-twas-the-night-before-christmas-wvideo Chris ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I’ll try to have my transcriptions from photos of headstones in the old sections of St. Patrick’s done by the time of the next meeting. I should have notes on which subsection they’re in, OC-1 (which I divided into OC-1 north and OC-1 south), and OC-2 through OC-6. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pis&PIcrid=66144&PIMode=cemetery&PIpi=15726138& To some extent I noted more specific locations, ranges within the subsections, but I know Tom Hanley would like a proper map if possible and I’m hoping with Mapping & Documenting Cemeteries http://www.amazon.com/Mapping-Documenting-Cemeteries-Pamela-Goffinet/dp/149289348X/ (which I own) that might indeed be feasible. I’d have had it completed earlier, but partly had been very frustrated by Excel scrambling a lot of the data I’d entered, and partly have been distracted by other things. I hadn’t had Attention Deficit Disorder Association as a child, but I think I might as an adult! Or perhaps I’m just interested & involved in too many things. Did anyone go to the Trial Before Christmas? I did - it was fun! It doesn’t look like there was as much coverage of it this time around - the “jury” came to the decision that Henry Livingston was the author of the poem. I think that might have been due in large part to a descendant of his (genealogist Mary Van Deusen) being a participant, a nice concession to that family that has for generations believed him to be the author. I remain undecided, though for the purpose of the mock trial I too probably would have gone with Livingston. http://www.bizjournals.com/albany/morning_call/2014/12/troys-mock-trial-of-famous-christmas-poem-draws.html http://www.oneidadispatch.com/general-news/20141208/who-wrote-twas-the-night-before-christmas-wvideo Chris

>From last Sunday's NY Times, here are some interesting stats on NYC department store window displays: http://nyti.ms/139v7zm On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Bill & Cathy McGrath via < ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> wrote: > If anyone is interested, the yearly free write up on selected New York > City sights including a description of most of the 2014 Christmas window > displays is available. List is updated every year and covers places I have > been to in New York City. > >

Just an FYI, in searching for relatives who went out the the Gold Rush, I was given this website by Mr. Carey of the Jackson Historical Society. It has a variety of old newspapers from that era, as well as before and after. Thought I would pass the site along. Helped me find several articles about my ancestors! http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc Susan

I sent a message to your email address, Gerri. I am not sure if it will reach you. Perhaps I should resend it and include the rootsweb address as well? -- *THEY CAME SEEKING THE TRUTH AND THEY FOUND GOD*. ~1990 Science Sunday, feast of the magi

We will meet December 18th at Moscatiello's. Please email RSVP to gerrisherry@outlook.com. Thank you, Gerri

21st Century version of indulgences, eh, Jim? lol. Too bad it is so darn hard to obtain information from parish records from the individual parishes, and what a difference it would make if there were centralization and digitization. -----Original Message----- From: James Kelly via Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 5:39 PM To: 'Amy La Pietra' ; ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Articles on Catholic ParishRecordsIn Ireland Is there any way to send this information to the Arch Bishop in NYC. Having these records available in Ireland is great. It would be just a great to have New York records available. Even on a pay as you go approach like Scotland's People. Jim Kelly -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Amy La Pietra via Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 8:39 AM To: 'Bill & Cathy McGrath'; ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Articles on Catholic Parish RecordsIn Ireland Can't wait !! Thanks for posting... Amy La Pietra -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill & Cathy McGrath via Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 10:15 PM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Articles on Catholic Parish Records In Ireland The National Library of Ireland has announced that they will have a dedicated website by the summer of 2015 making its collection of Catholic parish register microfilms freely available online. To read the complete story as reported by John Grenham in the Irish Times click on this link: http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/john-grenham-irish-roots-1.201734 4 To read another article on this planned dedicated website by Michael Kelly of The Catholic News Service click on this link: http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1404970.htm Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If anyone is interested, the yearly free write up on selected New York City sights including a description of most of the 2014 Christmas window displays is available. List is updated every year and covers places I have been to in New York City. The listing covers 52 items of interest (museums, Christmas window displays, famous buildings, interesting restaurants, impressive hotel lobbies, current hours and admission fees, etc.) and is arranged in descending order from 103rd Street to 33rd Street. If you aren't familiar with New York City street sequences, the order of the Avenues from the East River to the Hudson River is also listed to help you out. The items on the following list, with addresses and side street reference locations also contain some interesting historical facts, names, dates and trivia. 1. Museum of the City of New York 2. Tree Lights on Park Avenue 3. Metropolitan Museum of Art 4. Rhinelander Mansion/Ralph Lauren Store 5. The Frick Collection 6. The Crystal District 7. Barney's 8. Bloomingdale's 9. Plaza Hotel 10. World's Largest Menorah 11. Time-Warner Center 12. Van Cleef and Arpels 13. FAO Schwarz 14. Bergdorf Goodman Department Store 15. UNICEF Snowflake 16. Bulgari 17. Tiffany & Co. 18. Louis Vuitton Malletier 19. Trump Tower 20. Henri Bendel .21. The House of Harry Winston 22. Carnegie Deli 23. The House of Cartier 24. Ellen's Stardust Diner 25. New York Palace Hotel 26. Rockefeller Center 27. St. Patrick's Cathedral 28. Radio City Music Hall 29. Saks Fifth Avenue 30. The Waldorf=Astoria Hotel 31. American Girl Place 32. Hershey's Times Square 33. Diamond and Jewelry District 34. Tkts Booth 35. Joe Allen Restaurant 36. The World of Disney Store 37. Toys "R" Us 38. Fred F. French Building 39. New York Yacht Club 40. The Westin New York At Times Square 41. Hello Kitty Store 42. Chrysler Building 43. New York Public Library 44. Grand Central Terminal 45. The Holiday Shops at Winter Village at Bryant Park 46. Bank of America Skating Rink at Bryant Park 47. Celsius at Bryant Park 48. Kinokuniya Book Store at Bryant Park 49. Lord & Taylor Department Store 50. Morgan Library and Museum 51. Macy's Herald Square 52. Empire State Bldg. Again this year you can access this list on-line by going to the following address which will bring up the word document that you can print out, edit, etc. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/NewYorkSights-Christmas2014.doc Hope you enjoy the list. Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY

Is there any way to send this information to the Arch Bishop in NYC. Having these records available in Ireland is great. It would be just a great to have New York records available. Even on a pay as you go approach like Scotland's People. Jim Kelly -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Amy La Pietra via Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 8:39 AM To: 'Bill & Cathy McGrath'; ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Articles on Catholic Parish RecordsIn Ireland Can't wait !! Thanks for posting... Amy La Pietra -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill & Cathy McGrath via Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 10:15 PM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Articles on Catholic Parish Records In Ireland The National Library of Ireland has announced that they will have a dedicated website by the summer of 2015 making its collection of Catholic parish register microfilms freely available online. To read the complete story as reported by John Grenham in the Irish Times click on this link: http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/john-grenham-irish-roots-1.201734 4 To read another article on this planned dedicated website by Michael Kelly of The Catholic News Service click on this link: http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1404970.htm Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can't wait !! Thanks for posting... Amy La Pietra -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill & Cathy McGrath via Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 10:15 PM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Articles on Catholic Parish Records In Ireland The National Library of Ireland has announced that they will have a dedicated website by the summer of 2015 making its collection of Catholic parish register microfilms freely available online. To read the complete story as reported by John Grenham in the Irish Times click on this link: http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/john-grenham-irish-roots-1.201734 4 To read another article on this planned dedicated website by Michael Kelly of The Catholic News Service click on this link: http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1404970.htm Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The National Library of Ireland has announced that they will have a dedicated website by the summer of 2015 making its collection of Catholic parish register microfilms freely available online. To read the complete story as reported by John Grenham in the Irish Times click on this link: http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/john-grenham-irish-roots-1.2017344 To read another article on this planned dedicated website by Michael Kelly of The Catholic News Service click on this link: http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1404970.htm Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY