Some libraries also have access to Ancestry, such as the New York State Library. I would assume that other State Libraries also provide access. Ancestry.com can't be beat for it's search capabilities - such as searching by soundex and wild card, especially for names that are unusual or not indexed correctly (which are many). I sometimes find people by searching only on a first name, or a truncated first name in a particular place (if the first name is a bit uncommon) Rebecca ----- Original Message ----- From: "austin fadden" <aefadden@yahoo.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Irish Acts of Kindness at TIGS > I also do not have access to Ancestry.com due to the expense. However > by joining my local library I have acess to Heritage Quest. I have been > able to find photcopies of census records and some real surprises. > When looking up one individual or family, I have stumbled across other > family members on the same census sheet > Most recently found the 1900 census for my ggrandfather in PA and found > his widowed aunt living next door. She had last been seen in the 1880 > census in OH. Widowed in 1884, I wasn't sure if she remarried and could > not find any leads on the children. Of course it doesnt help that her son, > John P, shows up as Patrick in 1880 and as John in 1900. > > Heritage Quest can also present problems due to the search index, it is > mostly keyed to head of the house, I have had most of my luck when > searching by last name and state only, then if necessary by county > > > > > > A.E Fadden > > > The difference between genius and stupidity > is that genius had its limits. > - Albert Einstein > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1307 - Release Date: 3/2/2008 > 3:59 PM > >

Years ago ancestry.com was fairly inexpensive and had fewer sources. I had to write letters to courthouses and churches all over the country and drive to the National Archives here in CA-90 minutes from my home, to local LDS sites for microfilms and to cemeteries in other states, etc. etc. Genealogy sources are available thanks to zillions of hours of work by volunteers-even the copies of state or federal records. To give back I help out at my own local genealogy library even tho' my families aren't here. Now I am saving hundreds of dollars in gasoline just by subscribing to ancestry. Unless you have researched the basic way, you can't appreciate the wonder of the internet site. There is no information.without persons digging it up, indexing it and printing it. Sometimes they have to be paid or overhead costs accounted for. Marilyn Wilson

I have been trying for over a year to get on the Search Engine of the Gen-exchange web site for the records of the Emigrant Bank used by Irish immigrants who arrived in New York City in the 1800's and later. Every time I go on the web site, the search engine is temporarily down and has been saying that for all this time. Does anyone out there know of any other way to get at these records? I am sure that my great grandparents had accounts there and I could find a gold mine of information from them. Thanks to anyone who can be of assistance. Carol

Have you ever wondered why so many really important documents are only available through Ancestry.com? I do not know if it is because they are the only ones interested in them so they readily receive permission to copy data from various sources, or is it because they pay large amounts for this information? I just find it really frustrating that everything I need seems to be on this web site but to most of us the price is exorbitant to belong. Am I the only one who questions this? Could you tell me if this Heritage Quest is available only through libraries? Do they have info on just America or Ireland etc. also? Thank you for the lead.. Confidentiality Notice: Protected Health Information from the Massachusetts Department of Mental Health Protected Health Information is personal and sensitive information related to a person's health care. It is being e-mailed to you after appropriate authorization from the person or under circumstances that do not require the person's authorization. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, the disclosure, copying or distribution of this information is Strictly Prohibited. If you have received this message by error, please notify the sender immediately. Important Warning: This message is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential, the disclosure of which is governed by applicable law. Carol VerCammen Billing Supervisor carol.vercammen@dmh.state.ma.us 5-digit for DMH 73322 508-977-3322 -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of austin fadden Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:57 PM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Irish Acts of Kindness at TIGS I also do not have access to Ancestry.com due to the expense. However by joining my local library I have acess to Heritage Quest. I have been able to find photcopies of census records and some real surprises. When looking up one individual or family, I have stumbled across other family members on the same census sheet Most recently found the 1900 census for my ggrandfather in PA and found his widowed aunt living next door. She had last been seen in the 1880 census in OH. Widowed in 1884, I wasn't sure if she remarried and could not find any leads on the children. Of course it doesnt help that her son, John P, shows up as Patrick in 1880 and as John in 1900. Heritage Quest can also present problems due to the search index, it is mostly keyed to head of the house, I have had most of my luck when searching by last name and state only, then if necessary by county A.E Fadden The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius had its limits. - Albert Einstein --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is the link http://www.proquest.com/products_hq/ It appears to be available only by subscription by the institution, library, school, etc, I can access it remotele with my library card #. That probably depends on the negotiated subscription I think they may have info on other countries if it is part of the subscription I noticed that the Troy library has Ancestry.com but it can only be accessed at the library. At our library the census is the only useful part for me. The other data bases are restricted to Tennesse historical info I was hoping that my library had, but the Knox County Tennessee system is limited. I don't know what is available through the University or if it is avalabe to nonstudents A.E Fadden The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius had its limits. - Albert Einstein --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

An article here explains some of what you are asking http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13483892/ and here is an excerpt-- "The Provo company was set to announce Thursday that it copied complete U.S. Census records from 1790 to 1930 — a Herculean effort that took a team of experts and workers a combined 6.6 million hours of labor. The U.S. government waits 72 years before releasing original census documents containing such personal information as an individual's occupation — actor Tom Hanks' grandfather, Clarence Frager, made a living as a rodent exterminator, a 1930 census record reveals. **Hours of legwork **Workers for Ancestry.com spent so much time compiling these records because they had to decipher the handwriting on millions of census forms. They had to index and catalog every name, and scan images of the census documents. In all, workers made 22 billion keystrokes to organize all the information, the company said. Ancestry.com, which claims more than 725,000 paid subscribers, says it now has the only online repository of historic U.S. Census records." VerCammen, Carol (DMH) wrote: >Have you ever wondered why so many really important documents are only >available through Ancestry.com? I do not know if it is because they are >the only ones interested in them so they readily receive permission to >copy data from various sources, or is it because they pay large amounts >for this information? I just find it really frustrating that everything >I need seems to be on this web site but to most of us the price is >exorbitant to belong. Am I the only one who questions this? > >Could you tell me if this Heritage Quest is available only through >libraries? Do they have info on just America or Ireland etc. also? > >Thank you for the lead.. > >Confidentiality Notice: Protected Health Information from the >Massachusetts Department of Mental Health > >Protected Health Information is personal and sensitive information >related to a person's health care. It is being e-mailed to you after >appropriate authorization from the person or under circumstances that do >not require the person's authorization. If you are not the intended >recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the >intended recipient, the disclosure, copying or distribution of this >information is Strictly Prohibited. If you have received this message by >error, please notify the sender immediately. > >Important Warning: This message is intended only for the use of the >person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information >that is privileged and confidential, the disclosure of which is governed >by applicable law. > >Carol VerCammen > >Billing Supervisor > >carol.vercammen@dmh.state.ma.us > >5-digit for DMH 73322 > >508-977-3322 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of austin >fadden >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:57 PM >To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Irish Acts of Kindness at TIGS > > > I also do not have access to Ancestry.com due to the expense. >However by joining my local library I have acess to Heritage Quest. I >have been able to find photcopies of census records and some real >surprises. > When looking up one individual or family, I have stumbled across other >family members on the same census sheet > Most recently found the 1900 census for my ggrandfather in PA and >found his widowed aunt living next door. She had last been seen in the >1880 census in OH. Widowed in 1884, I wasn't sure if she remarried and >could not find any leads on the children. Of course it doesnt help that >her son, John P, shows up as Patrick in 1880 and as John in 1900. > > Heritage Quest can also present problems due to the search index, it >is mostly keyed to head of the house, I have had most of my luck when >searching by last name and state only, then if necessary by county > > > > > >A.E Fadden > > >The difference between genius and stupidity >is that genius had its limits. >- Albert Einstein > > >--------------------------------- >Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try >it now. >===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >Troy Irish Genealogy Society >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >Troy Irish Genealogy Society >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

I also do not have access to Ancestry.com due to the expense. However by joining my local library I have acess to Heritage Quest. I have been able to find photcopies of census records and some real surprises. When looking up one individual or family, I have stumbled across other family members on the same census sheet Most recently found the 1900 census for my ggrandfather in PA and found his widowed aunt living next door. She had last been seen in the 1880 census in OH. Widowed in 1884, I wasn't sure if she remarried and could not find any leads on the children. Of course it doesnt help that her son, John P, shows up as Patrick in 1880 and as John in 1900. Heritage Quest can also present problems due to the search index, it is mostly keyed to head of the house, I have had most of my luck when searching by last name and state only, then if necessary by county A.E Fadden The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius had its limits. - Albert Einstein --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Friday February 22 2008Troy Record Article 100years ago Saturday February 22,1908 “Mayor Mann orders a citywide crackdown on saloons that violate Sunday closing rule. Ever since 1896, New York State law requires saloons to close at midnight Saturday nights and stay closed until 5am on Mondays. Under the Raines law , the only business that can sell liquor on Sundays are hotels, and they can serve liquor only to registered guests as part of a meal. Saloon owners all over town have been warned informally that they will take a chance to stay open tomorrow. The loudest objections come from the restaurant owners. They have to close if they have tables in the same room as a bar but a hotel laid out the same way can serve alcohol as long as someone registers as a guest and orders a light meal. In some cases hotels serve free lunches to stay within the law while profiting from selling drinks." Saturday February 23, 2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoSundayFebruary 23, 1908 “It was a Sabbath such as has not been experienced in Troy for years before” says the Record reporter. While some of the liquor dealers were displeased, many saloon owners were pleased that their was no favoritism shown and all bars closed. "We like to have one day to ourselves "one saloon keeper said. Rev. C.F. Wilcox of Trinity Methodist says "we are not after the mayor’s head but warns that he, who having the power to prevent, knowingly permits the perpetration of a crime, is morally responsible for that crime and all its consequences. " **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Wednesday February 20 2008TroyRecord Article100yearsagoThursdayFebruary20, 1908 “A Glens Falls man is in critical condition after invading his wife’s home in Fort Ann and threatening to kill her family. Beecher Faber is shot by his father in law, John Nelson, who turns himself in. Faber married Flora Nelson two years ago and soon compelled her to support him. Flora has recently been released from a local house of refuge after serving years confinement for being a disorderly person. Andrew W. London, A spokesman for the Oakwood Avenue neighborhood group, meets with Mayor Mann who wants him to enforce a 1901 ordinance requiring streetcars to run on Oakwood Ave every 10 minutes. The traction company is currently up to every 20 minutes. John C. Ross of the Ross Valve Company tells the Mayor he can walk faster to Union Station than wait for the streetcar service. He is saving 60 cents a day (about 10 dollars in today’s money). The Mayor says he cant promise action until his corporation counsel George B. Wellington returns from out of town.” Photo of the day Troy Record Wednesday February 20, 2008 1913 photo of Philip O’Neill on his fourth birthday. He later worked for the Troy Fifth Avenue Bus Company **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Someone just asked if you had to join Ancestry to find census records. Please remember that TIGS has an excellent "Irish Acts of Kindness" page on their website _www.rootsweb.com~nytigs_ (http://www.rootsweb.com~nytigs) . The people on this page have volunteered to do reasonable look ups for TIGS list members. Go to the site, click on Resources along the top and then Irish Acts of Kindness. Review the list, pick what is best served for you question, submit to the volunteer and give them time to respond. We will be updating the list so if anyone has any resources they are willing to share, let me know. We will be adding the St. Mary's records as one of our members has them and is willing to do look ups. However, please pend the update. Kris **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

> > I think this could be Patrick in the 1888 Troy Directory - the house number > is correct but it says house is Burden Ave (?) - I checked the map with the > directory and Burden Ave is an extension of Fourth. > > Flanigan, Patrick, blacksmith, 697 Burden Avenue, h. 743 do. Thanks, Julia, for the lookup. I have all the O'Connor/Connors directory info from my many trips to the Troy Public Library. I guess on my next trip, I'll be looking up more on the Flanigans. I appreciate the time you took to do this lookup for me. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

> > Just curious, how did you find them in these census lists? Did you have > to join Ancestors.com? Yes, I found them through Ancestry.com -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Tuesday February 19,2008TroyRecordArticle 100yearsagoWednesdayFebruary19, 1908 “Mayor Mann hires corporate lawyer Lewis E. Carr to argue his case before Governor Hughes that Hughes cannot remove Troy’s mayor since the state legislature adopted the uniform charter law in 1899, without the 1892 clause giving him the power of removal.” Thursday February 21 2008Troy Record Article 100years ago Friday February21, 1908 “Rev George E. Stockwell resigns as chairman of the Ministerial Union of Troy ’s Sabbath Observance Committee today while continuing his campaign to have mayor Mann removed from office. He says he will take sole responsibility, including legal costs, for the removal campaign. Photo of the day Troy Record Thursday February 21, 2008 1945 photo of the Burke Family of North Troy (Lansingburgh): Patrick, William, Jack, Joe, Jim, Rose Raleigh Burke, Mary Burke Havern, and Annie Burke O’Neill **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Photo of the day Troy Record Monday February 18, 2008 1943photo of Jimmy Walsh of 1036 Fifth Ave in South Troy on Navy leave Sunday February 17,2008 TroyRecord Article 100years ago Monday February17,1908 “The Ministerial Union meets and Rev J. Milton Thompson of the Ninth Presbyterian Church states it was not his thought that any action would be taken looking to the removal of the mayor.Other ministers were stunned by the petition and Rev A.C.Sewall of Second Street Presbyterian Church leads the opposition to Stockwell's petition to the governor to remove the mayor. He introduces a resolution to rescind the document- it fails by a 25-13 margin. Some of the dissident ministers put forth the theory that this is Edwin S. Harris and his lawyer John T. Norton in an attempt to get back at the mayor for trying to remove Harris from office.Reverend Morgan S. Post of Third Presbyterian Church says he heard Mr. Norton had only recently defended liquor interests.The majority finally agrees on a compromise,an amended resolution,asking Gov Hughes to delay action on Stockwells petition until next week ,giving the mayor one more chance to enforce the law. Photo of the day Troy Record Saturday February 17, 2008 1947 photo of Anne Burke of Troy with brother Jim Burke, on her wedding day. **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Friday February 15 2008Troy Record Article 100years ago Saturday February 15, 1908 “On behalf of the Troy Ministerial Union, Rev George E. Stockwell of Grace Methodist Church submits a formal petition to Albany demanding the removal of Mayor Elias P. Mann for failing to enforce the law against saloons opening on Sunday. The document is drawn up by attorney John T. Norton. The Governor, Charles Evans Hughes, has the power to remove the mayor of Troy according to the city charter, approved by state legislature in 1892. Before taking legal action, the Union sent the mayor a petition with 1000 signatures demanding a crackdown on Sunday law violators. Rev Stockewell says the mayor never responded. Out of 289 licensed saloons in Troy, investigators found 130 were open for business on February 2 and 171 were open on February 9. Rev George Wood Anderson of State Street Methodist attaches his sermon on the subject to the petition but says he is a loyal Republican and will again help Mayor Mann be elected but he should enforce the law.” Photo of the day Troy Record Friday February 15, 2008 1934 photo of Anita Lister Gagnon sitting on lap of Ida Belanger and Austin Gagnon taken at 172 Continental Avenue in Cohoes. **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

I think this could be Patrick in the 1888 Troy Directory - the house number is correct but it says house is Burden Ave (?) - I checked the map with the directory and Burden Ave is an extension of Fourth. Flanigan, Patrick, blacksmith, 697 Burden Avenue, h. 743 do. I couldn't find the O'Connor listing. ~Julia In a message dated 2/28/2008 1:25:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, nymets11@pacbell.net writes: I am looking for descendants of Patrick Flanagan who I found in the censuses in Troy NY in the 1850, 1860, 1870, 1875 & 1880. He was born ca 1825 in Ireland as was his wife, Bridget. Children listed: Mary, Michael, Helen, Hannah all born Rensselaer County. In 1880 they were living at 743 Fourth St, Troy in the same house as my gggrandparents Timothy & Catherine O'Connor. Catherine's maiden name was Flanagan and I suspect they are related in some manner. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Just curious, how did you find them in these census lists? Did you have to join Ancestors.com? Confidentiality Notice: Protected Health Information from the Massachusetts Department of Mental Health Protected Health Information is personal and sensitive information related to a person's health care. It is being e-mailed to you after appropriate authorization from the person or under circumstances that do not require the person's authorization. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, the disclosure, copying or distribution of this information is Strictly Prohibited. If you have received this message by error, please notify the sender immediately. Important Warning: This message is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential, the disclosure of which is governed by applicable law. Carol VerCammen Billing Supervisor carol.vercammen@dmh.state.ma.us 5-digit for DMH 73322 508-977-3322 -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Connors Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:24 PM To: flanagan@rootsweb.com; NY-Troy-Irish-Gensoc-L@rootsweb.com; NYRENSSE-L@rootsweb.com; flanigan@rootsweb.com; flannigan@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Flanagan, Troy NY I am looking for descendants of Patrick Flanagan who I found in the censuses in Troy NY in the 1850, 1860, 1870, 1875 & 1880. He was born ca 1825 in Ireland as was his wife, Bridget. Children listed: Mary, Michael, Helen, Hannah all born Rensselaer County. In 1880 they were living at 743 Fourth St, Troy in the same house as my gggrandparents Timothy & Catherine O'Connor. Catherine's maiden name was Flanagan and I suspect they are related in some manner. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for descendants of Patrick Flanagan who I found in the censuses in Troy NY in the 1850, 1860, 1870, 1875 & 1880. He was born ca 1825 in Ireland as was his wife, Bridget. Children listed: Mary, Michael, Helen, Hannah all born Rensselaer County. In 1880 they were living at 743 Fourth St, Troy in the same house as my gggrandparents Timothy & Catherine O'Connor. Catherine's maiden name was Flanagan and I suspect they are related in some manner. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Shouda thought of that......duh! Thanks ** google "1907 US statistics" ** **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Thursday February 14 2008Troy Record Article 100years ago Friday February14, 1908 “According to the Record, the ancestors of the valentine were tablets on which the Roman lads carved the names of their sweethearts before dedicating them to the goddess Juno. The day has evolved as nearly the busiest day to pull practical jokes next to Aprils Fools Day, with people sending mock valentines. Postal sources estimate they have handled 100,000 valentines in the last 36 hours while selling 50,000 one cent postage stamps. Patrick J. Shea runs a stationery store and bookstore at 22 Third Street. He says Trojans aren’t buying less but cheaper. The valentines that are more costly were not purchased as much as the five, ten, twenty five or fifty cent kinds. The recent stock market panic is blamed for lower sales. Photo of the day Troy Record Thursday February 14, 2008 1922 photo of The Dippo brothers: Harry, Charles, John and youngest Ellsworth **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)