Hi If you go to the followingo URL you can look up births, deaths, marriages for Manhattan, Kings County, Queens etc etc. http://italiangen.org/vreclist.stm (I know it will come up as an Italian website but I have found Irish, german, etc names on it. Virginia Rich Nichols <8nicks@bellsouth.net> wrote: Carol, I think the first thing you need to do is to determine where in NYC they lived. Then you can go to your local library at look at a directory of Catholic Churches for NYC. There is a book and the title escapes me at the moment that will give you the dates of origin of the church, etc. I had to do this to find an ancestor in Manhattan. Don't assume anything. I also have two Catholics who were married in a Methodist church in lower Manhattan. Maybe she was pregnant? In another instance a cousin sent me a marriage record and when I contacted the church for a baptismal record, I also received a marriage record which gave a different date. She too was already pregnant. So, just keep digging and good luck. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "VerCammen, Carol (DMH)" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] New York marriages > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to find a marriage in the RC > Church in New York City either 1894 or 1895 which was never recorded by > the church with the State/City? Especially when you have no idea what > Church the marriage took place in? I only know they were both from > Ireland and assume they would have married in an Irish Catholic Church. > The Public records clerk told me at that time not all Churches > registered their marriages and since they have no record, it would seem > this church didn't. Any ideas on how to search would be very helpful. > > > > Thanks > > > > Carol > > > > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Friday February 29 2008Troy Record Article 100years agoSaturday February29 ,1908 “Lois Borman arrested and charged with third degree assault for throwing a lamp at his wife says to Police Court Magistrate Abbott H. Jones”That woman has been a constant source of annoyance to me. She is constantly nagging at me and my life has been made miserable. Last night in the cell was the first night’s rest I have enjoyed in peace in over a year.” Because he has several small children by his current marriage, Jones instructs the Mohawk & Husdon Humane Society to conduct an investigation before the assault charge goes to trial on March 3. In leaving the courtroom ,Borman walked over to where his oldest daughter was sitting and bid her farewell. He then turned to his wife in a threatening manner and had to be removed from the chambers by the patrolman. Guy A Graves, the manager of Proctors vaudeville theater on Third Street is accused of employing underage boys as singers last week. The professional bill at Proctors tonight includes strongman Paul Conchas, The Whiting & Melnotte Twins, McKenzie & Shannon and a performance of Jack the Giant Killer. " **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

I grew up being told that my Irish heritage was a "wee bit" at that. However, after many years of research - I have learned that I am truly quite Irish along with my English, German and French heritage. My Irish surnames are: WYNNE, CONLON, FLANAGAN, MCCABE, CLAYTON, CUNNINGHAM, O'MELIA, KENNEDY, HOEY, MCCRACKEN, CONNOLLY The Wynne's and Conlon's are from Riverstown, County Sligo (LDS & Sligo Family Heritage Centre) The Clayton's and Cunningham's are from Cloyne, County Cork (ancestry.com - English census records) The O'Melia's are most likely from County Mayo although claim to have come from Dublin The Hoey's and Connolly's are from Meigh, County Armagh (LDS records) The Flanagan's from Killalon, County Meath (family relative) The McCabe's from Finnea, County Westmeath (family relative) The McCracken's claim to be from Belfast, County Antrim and related to Henry Joy McCracken (family lore) The Kennedy's are unknown! All these Irish ancestors have been traced right here in the US via mail Historical Societies, visits to graves, ancestry.com; family members - who only provided names but did not know where their ancestors came from, the County Heritage Centres in Ireland and other avenues. And I was brought up to believe that I was just a "wee bit Irish." This vast data of information has enabled me to trace some lines back to the late 1700's. I would love to be able to trace them back further but as most know - Irish records are very inconsistent and scarce beyond church records. Rich in Greer, SC

Marilyn, et.al. Yes, ancestry.com is a blessing and true it was much less expensive when it began but agreed it had much less information than it does today. However, the LDS still outperforms ancestry with its vast collection of genealogical materials. However, the LDS has raised their borrowing prices that make it prohibitive for many who are on limited income. Now, according to the LDS website they plan on digitizing their entire collection and will put it online at no cost. This I am afraid it will take years as this too will be accomplished by volunteers and members of the Mormon church. You can read about it by going to their website www.familysearch.org and clicking on news. In fact you can register to view this new website - which is very limited at the moment. Another great website for the Irish - if any have not seen or been to it is: www.ifhf.brsgenealogy.com. Even the overseas Irish Family Heritage Centre (even though quite expensive) is still much less expensive than the actual travel to Ireland, unless of course, you want to walk the old sod of your ancestors Rich in Greer, SC

Carol, I think the first thing you need to do is to determine where in NYC they lived. Then you can go to your local library at look at a directory of Catholic Churches for NYC. There is a book and the title escapes me at the moment that will give you the dates of origin of the church, etc. I had to do this to find an ancestor in Manhattan. Don't assume anything. I also have two Catholics who were married in a Methodist church in lower Manhattan. Maybe she was pregnant? In another instance a cousin sent me a marriage record and when I contacted the church for a baptismal record, I also received a marriage record which gave a different date. She too was already pregnant. So, just keep digging and good luck. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "VerCammen, Carol (DMH)" <Carol.Vercammen@state.ma.us> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] New York marriages > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to find a marriage in the RC > Church in New York City either 1894 or 1895 which was never recorded by > the church with the State/City? Especially when you have no idea what > Church the marriage took place in? I only know they were both from > Ireland and assume they would have married in an Irish Catholic Church. > The Public records clerk told me at that time not all Churches > registered their marriages and since they have no record, it would seem > this church didn't. Any ideas on how to search would be very helpful. > > > > Thanks > > > > Carol > > > > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just checked the register, they have a kyran Cantwell, son of Thomas and marry grace....1884...is that the one you are talking about...County killkenney ----- Original Message ----- From: <Kris6851@aol.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Irish Acts of Kindness at TIGS > Someone just asked if you had to join Ancestry to find census records. > Please remember that TIGS has an excellent "Irish Acts of Kindness" page > on their > website _www.rootsweb.com~nytigs_ (http://www.rootsweb.com~nytigs) . The > people on this page have volunteered to do reasonable look ups for TIGS > list > members. Go to the site, click on Resources along the top and then Irish > Acts of > Kindness. Review the list, pick what is best served for you question, > submit > to the volunteer and give them time to respond. > We will be updating the list so if anyone has any resources they are > willing > to share, let me know. We will be adding the St. Mary's records as one of > our > members has them and is willing to do look ups. However, please pend the > update. > Kris > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to find a marriage in the RC Church in New York City either 1894 or 1895 which was never recorded by the church with the State/City? Especially when you have no idea what Church the marriage took place in? I only know they were both from Ireland and assume they would have married in an Irish Catholic Church. The Public records clerk told me at that time not all Churches registered their marriages and since they have no record, it would seem this church didn't. Any ideas on how to search would be very helpful. Thanks Carol

this is what appears when entering catholic diocese nyc http://www.ny-archdiocese.org/ there is a records tab which drops a menu with marriages; that opens a page where you can enter the parish. it doesn't say anything about the dates. Lois in AZ VerCammen, Carol (DMH) wrote: >Does anyone have any suggestions on how to find a marriage in the RC >Church in New York City either 1894 or 1895 which was never recorded by >the church with the State/City? Especially when you have no idea what >Church the marriage took place in? I only know they were both from >Ireland and assume they would have married in an Irish Catholic Church. >The Public records clerk told me at that time not all Churches >registered their marriages and since they have no record, it would seem >this church didn't. Any ideas on how to search would be very helpful. > > > >Thanks > > > >Carol > > > > > >===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >Troy Irish Genealogy Society >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Thursday February 28 2008Troy Record Article 100years ago Friday February28, 1908 “Louis Borman,a machinist, has a stormy relationship with his second wife that erupts when she learns he intends to revise his 2,000 life insurance policy to make his daughter from his first marriage the beneficiary. The argument escalates until Borman grabs a liquid lamp and tosses it at his wife.The lamp misses and sails out the window, hitting a passing pedestrian on the head. The pedestrian entered the house and gave Borman a severe beating, then turned Borman over to Patrolman Thomas Bendon of the Second Precint who locked Borman up on the complaint of his wife. The top international story is the assassination attempt on the Shah of Persia(in 2008 Persia is currently called Iran). The Shah escapes the bomb thrown at his automobile because he was riding in a horse drawn carriage incognito. The Postmaster General of the United States has ordered an end to hiring boys under 18 for special delivery messengers. The postal service began hiring juveniles in 1885 and now employs over 2500 nationally,many as young as 14. The new policy is to protect teenagers from bad influences. The boys are called upon to go to low resorts and are often compelled to travel long distances at night in lonely outlying sections of the great cities." Photo of the day Troy Record Saturday February 28 2008 1944 photo of John Francis (Red) Paulo from Johnsonville **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Hi Donna I'll mail it to you. You can send me your name and address offline to _joyce052@aol.com_ (mailto:joyce052@aol.com) . In my own search for ancestors,I wish all cities had the wealth of information TIGS members provide. The Record newspaper does a great job also in providing these pics and articles. Thanks Donna. In a message dated 3/6/2008 8:24:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, elwewo1@gmail.com writes: Hi Joyce, I always read your news clips and I marvel at your dedication to TIGS! Thank you for your work! Is there a way I can view the picture of the gals 2/27/31? I am researching George Edgar Gardner family who married my Great Grandmother Mary Ellen Davis Sept. 14, 1881. I'm thinking if I'm lucky, maybe Mary Gardner was Edgar's niece. If you have time let me know. Thank you! Donna from Colorado **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Hi Joyce, I always read your news clips and I marvel at your dedication to TIGS! Thank you for your work! Is there a way I can view the picture of the gals 2/27/31? I am researching George Edgar Gardner family who married my Great Grandmother Mary Ellen Davis Sept. 14, 1881. I'm thinking if I'm lucky, maybe Mary Gardner was Edgar's niece. If you have time let me know. Thank you! Donna from Colorado On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 4:16 AM, <Joyce052@aol.com> wrote: > Tuesday February 26,2008 TroyRecordArticle 100yearsago Wednesday February > 26, 1908 > "Rev George Stockwell the minister involved in the effort to remove Mayor > Mann is resigning as pastor of Grace Methodist Church this spring. He says it > was already in the works and is because of his health. > Photo of the day Troy Record Tuesday February 26, 2008 1952 photo of Daniel > J.McCormick Jr. and Julia M. Champito McCormick on their wedding day. > > Photo of the day Troy Record Saturday February 27, 2008 1931 photo of Marge > Ryan Volk, Mary Gardner Evertson, and Marion Ryan. > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have seen the section of Arthur James Weise's *Troy's One Hundred Years*that deals with the 1837 St. Patrick's Day Riot that is kindly shared at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/StPatricksDayRiot.htm. Since Amory Felton, whose store was damaged, is a relative of mine, I'm interested in learning more of the details than Weise gives. Has anyone done additional research? Is anyone aware of other published sources of information? I would check the newspapers of the time, but I'm in Chicago. Bob Miller Chicago

The 1837 St. Pat's riot is an interest of mine, also. I imagine only the newspapers of the day might cover it. Was there any Irish News papers at that time or only later after the Famine immigration swelled populations? Bob Miller <millerrl2008@gmail.com> wrote: I have seen the section of Arthur James Weise's *Troy's One Hundred Years*that deals with the 1837 St. Patrick's Day Riot that is kindly shared at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/StPatricksDayRiot.htm. Since Amory Felton, whose store was damaged, is a relative of mine, I'm interested in learning more of the details than Weise gives. Has anyone done additional research? Is anyone aware of other published sources of information? I would check the newspapers of the time, but I'm in Chicago. Bob Miller Chicago ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Tuesday February 26,2008 TroyRecordArticle 100yearsago Wednesday February 26, 1908 “Rev George Stockwell the minister involved in the effort to remove Mayor Mann is resigning as pastor of Grace Methodist Church this spring. He says it was already in the works and is because of his health. Photo of the day Troy Record Tuesday February 26, 2008 1952 photo of Daniel J.McCormick Jr. and Julia M. Champito McCormick on their wedding day. Photo of the day Troy Record Saturday February 27, 2008 1931 photo of Marge Ryan Volk, Mary Gardner Evertson, and Marion Ryan. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

AMEN, sister!! Do your folks come from Canada? Donna Wilson from Colorado On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Marilyn Wilson <mwilson1@hughes.net> wrote: > Years ago ancestry.com was fairly inexpensive and had fewer sources. I had to write letters to courthouses and churches all over the country and drive to the National Archives here in CA-90 minutes from my home, to local LDS sites for microfilms and to cemeteries in other states, etc. etc. > Genealogy sources are available thanks to zillions of hours of work by volunteers-even the copies of state or federal records. To give back I help out at my own local genealogy library even tho' my families aren't here. Now I am saving hundreds of dollars in gasoline just by subscribing to ancestry. Unless you have researched the basic way, you can't appreciate the wonder of the internet site. There is no information.without persons digging it up, indexing it and printing it. Sometimes they have to be paid or overhead costs accounted for. Marilyn Wilson > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Donna, Count me in. -----Original Message----- >From: "Donna K. Vaughn" <dkvaughn@nycap.rr.com> >Sent: Mar 5, 2008 6:41 AM >To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Albany St. Patrick's Day Parade and TIGS > >Just a reminder that TIGS will be marching with our banner in the Albany NY St. Patrick's Day Parade on the afternoon of Sat. March 15. Please respond if you are interested. Details to follow. > >Donna >===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >Troy Irish Genealogy Society >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Monday February 25, 2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoTuesdayFebruary 25, 1908 “City Hall promises a legal showdown after the United Traction Company refuses to increase service on Oakwood Avenue. At a point in history where automobiles are still considered a novelty, Oakwood residents consider the service cuts a serious inconvenience that could handicap a growing neighborhood.Cabinetmaker W.D.Bunny, carpenter John H. Lee and building manager Andrew Louden meet with the Traction Company and Mayor Mann and corporation counsel George B. Wellington. Residents of the district say they are unable to go home to dinner, if they are employed in the center of the city, on account of the time necessitated in waiting for the cars. Edgar Fasset, the United Traction general manager says they are losing money running cars every 15 minutes. The only course left seemed to be action which would compel the corporation to live up to the law.United Traction is the least popular business in Troy.Even when strikes inconvenience them Troy commuters root against the streetcar company. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Just a reminder that TIGS will be marching with our banner in the Albany NY St. Patrick's Day Parade on the afternoon of Sat. March 15. Please respond if you are interested. Details to follow. Donna

Sunday February 24,2008 TroyRecord Article 100years ago Monday February 24,1908 “The entire excise committee of the Ministerial Union of Troy has resigned, leaving in question the organizations petition to have Mayor Elias P. Mann from office.They announced the resignation at a crowded meeting at the Central YMCA Hall this morning,during which the Union sends mixed messages to the Mayor. While again upholding Rev.George E. Stockwell petition accusing the mayor of failing to enforce the state law against saloons opening on Sundays, the organization approves a resolution congratulating Mann for finally enforcing the law yesterday.The crackdown yesterday was so complete that not a single person was arrested in the entire city, a fact that the ministers credit to the closing of the saloons. A new five man excise committee is formed .They are; Rev Cecil J. Armstrong of River Street Church of Christ; Rev Edwin Genge of Levings Methodist Church;Rev J.R. Lewis of First Congregational Church; Rev George P.Perry of First Baptist Church and Rev Charles H. Walker of First Presbyterian Church of Lansingburgh. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

its working now !!!Carol> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:38:34 -0500> From: Carol.Vercammen@state.ma.us> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Emigrant National Bank of New York> > > > > > I have been trying for over a year to get on the Search Engine of the> Gen-exchange web site for the records of the Emigrant Bank used by Irish> immigrants who arrived in New York City in the 1800's and later. Every> time I go on the web site, the search engine is temporarily down and has> been saying that for all this time. Does anyone out there know of any> other way to get at these records? I am sure that my great grandparents> had accounts there and I could find a gold mine of information from> them.> > > > Thanks to anyone who can be of assistance.> > > > Carol> > > > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List===> Did you pay your 2008 Dues?> Troy Irish Genealogy Society> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008