Rats! Thanks, Kris, good to hear from you again! How about this...is there a list of non Catholic churches that were around in 1854? The offer is still good if you get out here, again. Donna from Colorado On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 9:33 PM, <Kris6851@aol.com> wrote: > Yes St. Peters is Catholic.... > > > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL > Home. > ( > http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001 > ) > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you, Rich! Is St. Peter's a Catholic church? My family was Protestant/Church of Ireland. I probably should have mentioned that in my plea for help! Donna On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Rich Nichols <8nicks@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Donna, > > Try contacting St Peter's at: > > churchdenise@aol.com > > It may take a while to get an answer. > > Rich > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can anyone steer me to downtown Catholic Churches in the 1877-1881 time frame where I may contact them for baptismal records? I have contacted St Peter's. Are there any other possibilities? TIA Rich Nichols, Greer

Donna, Try contacting St Peter's at: churchdenise@aol.com It may take a while to get an answer. Rich

Could you tell me what would be an appropriate donation for St. Peter's? I have two baptisms I'm seeking: one with an exact date (although the year may be off by one year) and the other, I have a month and a 2-3 year span. I know their parents were married there, by Father Shanahan, but that marriage was too early - St. Peter's Secretary told me a while back that the actual records for the marriages don't begin until 1832. She said that marriages were performed before that, but the paper records were a little later. Kitty **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

Donna, I have the four volumes of marriage records for St. Mary's Church in Troy which was founded in 1844 and I checked for your great grandparents and found no record. Do you have any idea where in Troy they lived? There was one Catholic Church older than St. Mary's which is St. Peter's (central part of the city) founded in 1824 and they may have married there. There is also St. Joseph's in South Troy which was established around 1854. I am pretty sure you will not find a civil record at Troy City Hall since they weren't required to register with the civil authorities until around 1880. You could try dropping a line (with a donation) to St. Peter's Church, 2300 Fifth Avenue, Troy NY 12180 or St. Joseph's Church, 3rd & Jackson Streets, Troy NY 12180. I have heard that the secretary at St. Peter's is pretty good about looking up records but the same cannot be said for the secretary at St. Joseph's, but it's worth looking into. Good luck in your search. Kay Gallagher Brearton Secretary, Troy Irish Genealogy Society ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Wilson" <elwewo1@gmail.com> To: "TIGS" <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 12:53 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] marriage records before 1880 > Hellos to all, > > Is there any hope of me finding the marriage record of my Great (x3) > Grandmother who married 1854 (estimating) in Troy? > Her name was Mary Ellen Browne, born 23 Jan 1831, Ireland. The groom was > Charles Sullivan Davis b. 23 Nov. 1832, Keene, NH. > I read recently that a City Clerk might have a record in a dusty, old > book, > somewhere. > Thanks for any help you might offer!! > > Donna from Colorado > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I may well be on the wrong mailing list for this, and if so I include my apologies. Can anyone tell me about the current situation at St. Brigid's Church in Watervliet, the parish of my KEENAN, LYNCH and HENNESSY families. I found some help there a number of years ago, but then my welcome wore out and I had several painful phone conversations with the guardian of the records - "...they are in the basement and no I will not go there for you ...." Then it got personal. Is St. Brigid's still open, has there been a change in personnel or attitude, was it just me or what. Ed Broecker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen" <kbrearton@nycap.rr.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:02 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Marriage records before 1880 > Donna, > > I have the four volumes of marriage records for St. Mary's Church in Troy > which was founded in 1844 and I checked for your great grandparents and > found no record. Do you have any idea where in Troy they lived? There > was > one Catholic Church older than St. Mary's which is St. Peter's (central > part > of the city) founded in 1824 and they may have married there. There is > also St. Joseph's in South Troy which was established around 1854. I am > pretty sure you will not find a civil record at Troy City Hall since they > weren't required to register with the civil authorities until around 1880. > > You could try dropping a line (with a donation) to St. Peter's Church, > 2300 > Fifth Avenue, Troy NY 12180 or St. Joseph's Church, 3rd & Jackson Streets, > Troy NY 12180. I have heard that the secretary at St. Peter's is pretty > good about looking up records but the same cannot be said for the > secretary > at St. Joseph's, but it's worth looking into. > > Good luck in your search. > > Kay Gallagher Brearton > Secretary, Troy Irish Genealogy Society > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Wilson" <elwewo1@gmail.com> > To: "TIGS" <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 12:53 PM > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] marriage records before 1880 > > >> Hellos to all, >> >> Is there any hope of me finding the marriage record of my Great (x3) >> Grandmother who married 1854 (estimating) in Troy? >> Her name was Mary Ellen Browne, born 23 Jan 1831, Ireland. The groom was >> Charles Sullivan Davis b. 23 Nov. 1832, Keene, NH. >> I read recently that a City Clerk might have a record in a dusty, old >> book, >> somewhere. >> Thanks for any help you might offer!! >> >> Donna from Colorado >> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hellos to all, Is there any hope of me finding the marriage record of my Great (x3) Grandmother who married 1854 (estimating) in Troy? Her name was Mary Ellen Browne, born 23 Jan 1831, Ireland. The groom was Charles Sullivan Davis b. 23 Nov. 1832, Keene, NH. I read recently that a City Clerk might have a record in a dusty, old book, somewhere. Thanks for any help you might offer!! Donna from Colorado

Hello, would SKS on the TIGS list happen to be a member of kindredkonnections.com? I have a small favor to ask if so. Thx, Mike

It's that time of year again! Local TIGS will be having nominations of officers at our next meeting on April 10, with elections in May, and new officers taking their roles in June. It has been my honor to have been elected as the very first President of TIGS, and to have served as your President for each of the past three years. Kristin Ayotte, our Vice President, has expressed an interest in running for President this upcoming year, and I will be nominating her at the April meeting. All offices are open for nomination. Here are the interested parties so far: President: Kristin Ayotte Vice Present: VACANT Secretary: Kay Brearton Treasurer: Cathy McGrath Webmaster: Jeanne Keefe List Administrator: VACANT Project Manager: Bill McGrath You may nominate yourself or anyone else, for any of the above offices. According to our charter: "All officers must be dues paying members of TIGS and be able to attend meetings in Troy." In regard to voting, full members (dues paying members) are eligible to vote in the elections. There are some local members, other than the current officers, who have been quite active and regular attendees, and I urge them (or anyone else!) to run for any of these offices. Please, if you have an interest, contact me, either on or off list, and I will be happy to explain the duties of each office. Also, you can refer to the charter at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/CharterPageNew.htm Thank you! Donna Current President of TIGS

Thursday March 20 2008Troy Record Article 100years ago Friday March 20, 1908 “Former judge Lewis E. Griffith appears before the Appellate Division of the State Supreme Court to appeal a lower court ruling against a venue change for former city deputy city treasurer Frank W. Carrington.. He succeeds in delaying the trial for a few more months until the next court term. Photo of the day Troy Record Friday March 20, 2008 1947 photo of Clarence and Ruth Eden shown on their August 2 wedding day. >From the Times Union; 1908 David Webb 9, of East Greenbush fell into a 38 foot deep cistern near his home . He was rescued by his father. The fact that he escaped an almost certain death was considered miraculous **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

Just a reminder that last night was our meeting.  I know there were several people who said they were coming to the meeting and were not there.  I don't want anyone to go to the Redfront tonight so hopefully everyone reads their e-mail early in the day.  Contact me directly to get your Ireland travel documents. Next month we will have a meeting, however since we are leaving for Ireland on the 3rd Thursday of the month, it was decided at last night that we will meet on the 2nd Thusday of the month, April 10th.  Further details will follow....Kris -----Original Message----- From: Joyce052@aol.com To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 8:13 am Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Walker,Tracey,Busone,Bean Wednesday March 19 2008TroyRecord Article100yearsagoThursday March 19, 1908 Dr. Mary Edwards Walker ,only female recipient of the Medal of Honor from he Civil War (record of only female recipient of the Medal still stands in 008) was in Troy today at the County Clerks office on undisclosed personal usiness.The Record reporter interviewed the 72 year old who wore a suit with rousers. In the interview at the Fifth Avenue Hotel Walker credits ome of her longevity to the clothes she wears, ‘ No man knows how oppressive he garments a woman wears are to her in her daily tasks. They are burdensome oth in the kitchen and in the parlor. They make a womans load heavier in very detail of their lives. I wouldn’t be alive today had I not clothed myself sanely. Walker testified before the State Assembly’s committee on codes in avor of abolishing capital punishment in NYS. “ Photo of the day Troy Record Friday March 19, 2008 1938 photo of Jack racey,Vince Busone and Carl Bean at DEkalb Junction on National Guard aneuvers **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL ome. http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) ==NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== id you pay your 2008 Dues? roy Irish Genealogy Society ttp://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Wednesday March 19 2008TroyRecord Article100yearsagoThursday March 19, 1908 “Dr. Mary Edwards Walker ,only female recipient of the Medal of Honor from the Civil War (record of only female recipient of the Medal still stands in 2008) was in Troy today at the County Clerks office on undisclosed personal business.The Record reporter interviewed the 72 year old who wore a suit with trousers. In the interview at the Fifth Avenue Hotel Walker credits some of her longevity to the clothes she wears, ‘ No man knows how oppressive the garments a woman wears are to her in her daily tasks. They are burdensome both in the kitchen and in the parlor. They make a womans load heavier in every detail of their lives. I wouldn’t be alive today had I not clothed myself sanely. Walker testified before the State Assembly’s committee on codes in favor of abolishing capital punishment in NYS. “ Photo of the day Troy Record Friday March 19, 2008 1938 photo of Jack Tracey,Vince Busone and Carl Bean at DEkalb Junction on National Guard maneuvers **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

Here are some places that are kind of like the ones being asked about, "Hidden's or Kidden's Corner." Nothing caught my eye that was in the eastern part of the state, though. French, J.H., French’s Gazetteer, 1860 Hedden cr. 658 Tompkins County Heddingville lo. 543 Putnam County Higginsville p.v. 470 Oneida County. Kedden n.f. Kidders Ferry. P.O. 616 Seneca County Kinneys Corners lo. 720 Yates County Kinneys Four Corners P.O. 522 Oswego County Nancy Johnsen Curran http://pages.prodigy.net/nancycurran Genealogy research and photography in the capital region of New York State

Tuesday March 18, 2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoWednesday March 18, 1908 “May 1 is traditionally when rental leases go into effect for home and apartment renters.Thats the day when the streets are clogged with wagons taking furniture from one building to another.The advance guard of house hunters is already in the field as house hunters try to get locations close to employment so they don’t have to depend on street cars. According to real estate people the area in most demand extends north from Adams Street to Hoosick Street, and east from River Street to Eighth Street. The agent says if some entrepreneurs build a block of flats that would go for $20-$25 a month not one of them would be vacant by May 1. Too many backward landlords demand present day rents for old premises and try to get the tenant to pay for improvements even to papering and repairs to plaster.” Photo of the day Troy Record Friday March 18, 2008 1958 photo of Angela Pitanello and Francis”Frank’ Fleming,married at St Francis DE Sales ,leaving for a trip to Miami honeymoon **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

I looked her up on Ancestry did you know that her name may have been Lightbrown, a Elizabeth Lightbrown lived in the same home as her in the 1860 census, age 33 possibly a sister? **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

I forgot that there are also newspaper deaths at the Troy Library that may cover this period for Troy - not sure about Green Island. Rebecca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Wilson" <elwewo1@gmail.com> To: "ny-troy-irish-gensoc-l" <NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Help, please? > Dear Fellow TIGS members, > > My Grandmother died either in Green Island or Troy between the years > of 1867 - 1879. Does anyone have the time and/or energy to do a > search to pin point the date? I understand I need the exact date in > order to request a copy of the death certificate. I would GREATLY > appreciate it!!! > > Her information is: Mary Ellen Browne b. 23 Jan 1831 in Rosena [sic], > Ireland. > Immigrated to NY in 1852. > Married Charles Sullivan Davis abt. 1854. > Her last child was born in 1867. > Charles remarries and from this marriage > he has one son born July 1879. > > Very sincerely, > Donna Wilson of Colorado > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1332 - Release Date: 3/17/2008 > 10:48 AM > >

This is before vital records began, so the only ways to find her would possibly be City Directories (though they often did not mention female deaths), or by searching probate and land records for each county. Or, church/cemetery records if you happen to know the church. Rebecca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Wilson" <elwewo1@gmail.com> To: "ny-troy-irish-gensoc-l" <NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 4:14 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Help, please? > Dear Fellow TIGS members, > > My Grandmother died either in Green Island or Troy between the years > of 1867 - 1879. Does anyone have the time and/or energy to do a > search to pin point the date? I understand I need the exact date in > order to request a copy of the death certificate. I would GREATLY > appreciate it!!! > > Her information is: Mary Ellen Browne b. 23 Jan 1831 in Rosena [sic], > Ireland. > Immigrated to NY in 1852. > Married Charles Sullivan Davis abt. 1854. > Her last child was born in 1867. > Charles remarries and from this marriage > he has one son born July 1879. > > Very sincerely, > Donna Wilson of Colorado > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1332 - Release Date: 3/17/2008 > 10:48 AM > >

You are such a sweetie!! Yes, Elizabeth Lightbown was born Eliza Jane Browne. She was the first member of the Browne family to come to the US. I figure she would have immigrated around1847 when she would have been around 20, as she didn't come with the rest of her family in 1852. She first shows up in Stillwater, and soon becomes involved with a handsome (I imagine) military man whom she eventually marries. How she managed to be in Stillwater is a mystery, at this point (but that's for another time). What is disturbing is that she is with her sister Mary and brother-in-law, Charles Davis, without her 2 young boys, ages 9 and 6. I found a distant cousin who has done an indepth research on Eliza. He sent me some copies. They include legal papers with Charles' Davis and his dad, Alvin Davis' signatures as witnesses! After being with Mary Ellen in 1860, Eliza dies (my cousin thinks "female" troubles) in a place called "Hidden's or Kidden's Corner". This is written in her dad's handwritting on a slip of paper that was stuck in the family Bible. He wrote an initial after the place..."N"... My cousin thinks that might mean New Jersey because Lightbown was in the Marines and would have been at maritime ports. I think, if she were dying she might not be far from her sister, and would have stayed in NY. But I have searched both states and have not come up with a similar name. I should take another look. Aren't mysteries great? The real motivation for me right now is to get a hold of some legal documents, and if I'm lucky, I'll find the real spelling of where Mary Ellen was born. No one seems to know where "Rosena" is. My gx4-grandfather was obviously literate but not a very good speller :-} You're a doll to be helping me like this! Donna On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 5:03 PM, <CABCAH@aol.com> wrote: > I looked her up on Ancestry > did you know that her name may have been Lightbrown, a Elizabeth Lightbrown > lived in the same home as her in the 1860 census, age 33 possibly a sister? > > > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL > Home. > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

For place names in New York and New Jersey, I would recommend Vasiliev, Ren, From Abbotts to Zurich: New York State placenames Syracuse: Syracuse University Press, 2004, xviii, 258 p New Jersey Local names, Trenton: New Jersey Dept of Transportation, 1995, 69 p. Also, check the local library for historical atlases since more place names than we think have been changed over the years. Good luck. Tom Ebert --- Donna Wilson <elwewo1@gmail.com> wrote: > You are such a sweetie!! > Yes, Elizabeth Lightbown was born Eliza Jane Browne. > She was the > first member of the Browne family to come to the US. > I figure she > would have immigrated around1847 when she would have > been around 20, > as she didn't come with the rest of her family in > 1852. She first > shows up in Stillwater, and soon becomes involved > with a handsome (I > imagine) military man whom she eventually marries. > How she managed to > be in Stillwater is a mystery, at this point (but > that's for another > time). > What is disturbing is that she is with her sister > Mary and > brother-in-law, Charles Davis, without her 2 young > boys, ages 9 and 6. > I found a distant cousin who has done an indepth > research on Eliza. > He sent me some copies. They include legal papers > with Charles' Davis > and his dad, Alvin Davis' signatures as witnesses! > > After being with Mary Ellen in 1860, Eliza dies (my > cousin thinks > "female" troubles) in a place called "Hidden's or > Kidden's Corner". > This is written in her dad's handwritting on a slip > of paper that was > stuck in the family Bible. He wrote an initial > after the > place..."N"... My cousin thinks that might mean New > Jersey because > Lightbown was in the Marines and would have been at > maritime ports. I > think, if she were dying she might not be far from > her sister, and > would have stayed in NY. But I have searched both > states and have not > come up with a similar name. I should take another > look. Aren't > mysteries great? > > The real motivation for me right now is to get a > hold of some legal > documents, and if I'm lucky, I'll find the real > spelling of where Mary > Ellen was born. No one seems to know where "Rosena" > is. My > gx4-grandfather was obviously literate but not a > very good speller :-} > > You're a doll to be helping me like this! > Donna > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 5:03 PM, <CABCAH@aol.com> > wrote: > > I looked her up on Ancestry > > did you know that her name may have been > Lightbrown, a Elizabeth Lightbrown > > lived in the same home as her in the 1860 census, > age 33 possibly a sister? > > > > > > > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. > Watch the video on AOL > > Home. > > > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) > > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping