I see no one has been nominated for List Administrator and I assume no one from the Troy area wants to take it on. I will happily help anyone get started taking over the list. It is not difficult. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Be really careful with this site. First you need to know what records are available. Here is a site that will give your the years that RC church records exist: http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/ Then you need to know that there are gaps in these records that are not mentioned. I have searched many Irish RC records in both Belfast and Dublin and know that the original registers can be in terrible condition with pages ripped out or just missing. Take county Laois, for instance. I searched every church register from the county both in Belfast and in Dublin and not one parish is complete! Therefore, if you do a research in these records and your family is not found, it is not conclusive, because there just might not be records available for your baptism or marriage that you are searching. Another thing... the database that is being used is faulty. The records were transcribed by unemployed people who had no experience in either genealogy or old time handwriting. If anyone has looked at old censuses, you know names and other data can be mis-transcribed. Then there is the search parameters on the site. For marriages, you can only search on one name. If you are looking for a John Ryan in Tipperary, there are probably hundreds in the same time period. But they don't give you the parish or the other name, so you would have to pay for each record to see it. Same problem with birth/baptisms, you can only search for the child's name, you can't put in the parents' names. There's more. While County Tipperary shows the whole county is online, there are no records for the Emly & Cashel Diocese included and anyone who does research in that county knows that about 2/3's of the county is in that diocese. So, while some have found their families, I recommend you be careful when using the site. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Here is the proposed slate of officers for 2008-2009, based on nominations received so far: President: Kris Ayotte VP: VACANT Secretary: Kay Brearton Treasurer: Cathy McGrath Webmaster: Jeanne Keefe List Administrator: VACANT Project Manager: Bill McGrath Nominations for all offices are now open! You may nominate anyone, or nominate yourself. More than one nominee for each office is fine, and you can make as many nominations as you wish. If you have any questions about the duties of each office, here is the link to the charter: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/CharterPageNew.htm Anyone can make a nomination, whether you are a dues paying member or not. The nominees themselves must be dues paying members and able to attend the local TIGS meetings. Please contact me if you have any questions. Please participate and make a nomination! The nominations will close on Friday, April 25. I will then finalize the slate of proposed officers and post to the list. Elections will then begin on or about May 1, for dues paying members. More info will be posted at that time. We appreciate all nominations, especially for the two vacant positions. Again, anyone on this mailing list can make a nomination. Thank you for your participation! Sincerely, Donna Outgoing President 2005--2008

-as usual the message to the list messed up the link that I sent for that irish records site by duplicating it. just put it in your browser and delete the second half of it and it should work. -Mike

Hello, It was nice to see those of you again who were at the TIGS meeting this evening. Here is the website I was talking about. Put your wallets away before you start searching. Each record costs 5 euro or about $7.50- they have a mixture of RC, protestant, and civil records available. Available church record year ranges are given also. I have dropped a small chunk of change but have found some very useful pieces of my family puzzles. Thank you to Pat Connors for telling me about this site. http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/index.php<http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/indexphp> some tips: the search function will limit you to the first ten records if you don't put in a year. Enter "0" in the year and it will let you look at all years available. If you enter "0" for given name it will give you all first names for the surname you are searching. If you just enter a letter or 2 it will pull up any names that begin with that letter or letters. You can also limit it to a specific parish. Happy hunting. Michael

I have been informed by the Redfront that they have to put us in the middle room tomorrow night, they have a group of 50 people in the backroom. We had reserved first but obviously they could not turn down this group for the 8 or 10 of us who may or may not eat. Will not be the best meeting scenario but it will work. Kris **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

Hi Pat, Yes, I checked the map on the 1875 census - that's what led me to ask just where 121 N First intersects. Common sense it would be one or two blocks north of the central dividing street between north and south streets/avenues. I just couldn't tell from the map just where the 8th ward lies in relation to the whole of Troy. In any event I believe that my ancestor may be the one listed in the 8th ward on the 1875 census - but only documentation such as a city directory could confirm this. I doubt if there were two Clayton's in Troy with the same given name at that time period. I believe that my ancestor arrived in Troy in either 1871 or 1874. Thanks again for your reply and kudos on your website. Rich in Greer, SC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Connors" <nymets11@pacbell.net> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] 1875 Census > > >> Does anyone know if the following address is in the 8th Ward: >> >> 121 N First St >> > > Did you check the map on the 1875 8th Ward page? It would at least show > the streets, but not the numbers. The first census that I have found > that gives the exact address is the 1880 US census. However, a > directory lookup would tell you exactly where your family lived. Maybe > someone in Troy, when in the library can do a lookup for you. > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It looks like it is in the 7th and 10th Ward 1st street is in the 8th ward go to: http://www.historicmapworks.com/ Carol> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:47:00 -0700> From: nymets11@pacbell.net> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] 1875 Census> > >> > Does anyone know if the following address is in the 8th Ward:> >> > 121 N First St> > > > Did you check the map on the 1875 8th Ward page? It would at least show > the streets, but not the numbers. The first census that I have found > that gives the exact address is the 1880 US census. However, a > directory lookup would tell you exactly where your family lived. Maybe > someone in Troy, when in the library can do a lookup for you.> > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com> > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List===> Did you pay your 2008 Dues?> Troy Irish Genealogy Society> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008

A reminder that the monthly meeting of TIGS will be held this Thursday, the 10th, at 6:30 at the Redfront. Please let me know if you plan on attending so that I can give the restaurant an idea of how many will be there. Also Donna needs agenda items in advance. Kris **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

Per Donna's information it closed in 1950 -----Original Message----- From: Courtney Chadwick-Shepard <cchadwick_shepard@hotmail.com> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 3:34 pm Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Marshall Infirmary - Attention Courtney Shepard When did the Infirmary close? Was it about 1949? I wonder if my cousins remember it from back then? Thanks, Courtney > From: Kris6851@aol.com > Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 23:23:53 -0400 > To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Marshall Infirmary - Attention Courtney Shepard > > The Asylum was located on Linden Avenue, an extremely steep street with > treacherous turns that runs between Pawling Avenue and Spring Avenue. I remember > it clearly as my Grandfather was also there and in fact died there in 1949, the > year before I was born. My parents often used the hill as a shortcut from > South Troy to the East Side. The buildings stood for some time, but then were > torn down. There are now townhouses or condos there. > Kristin > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008 ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When did the Infirmary close? Was it about 1949? I wonder if my cousins remember it from back then? Thanks, Courtney > From: Kris6851@aol.com > Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 23:23:53 -0400 > To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Marshall Infirmary - Attention Courtney Shepard > > The Asylum was located on Linden Avenue, an extremely steep street with > treacherous turns that runs between Pawling Avenue and Spring Avenue. I remember > it clearly as my Grandfather was also there and in fact died there in 1949, the > year before I was born. My parents often used the hill as a shortcut from > South Troy to the East Side. The buildings stood for some time, but then were > torn down. There are now townhouses or condos there. > Kristin > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008

> > Does anyone know if the following address is in the 8th Ward: > > 121 N First St > Did you check the map on the 1875 8th Ward page? It would at least show the streets, but not the numbers. The first census that I have found that gives the exact address is the 1880 US census. However, a directory lookup would tell you exactly where your family lived. Maybe someone in Troy, when in the library can do a lookup for you. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Patrick Flanagan was found in the 1880 US census living with his family in the same house as Timothy and Catherine O'Connor. Catherine's maiden name was Flanagan and she was baptised in the Tipperary RC Parish in County Tipperary. I suspect Patrick is related in some manner. Looking for connections to Patrick so we can compare notes. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Does anyone know if the following address is in the 8th Ward: 121 N First St I found an Edward Clayton on Pat Connor's 1875 Troy Census data (thanks a bunch Pat). I know that my Edward Clayton was living at the above address in 1879 and wonder if he was living there in 1875, which would confirm the same person. By the 1880 census he was living at 51 Depot St. You are great guys on this website and believe I have been to many. In fact St Peter's has been a tremendous help and I have discovered more children and deaths. Keep up the great work. Rich in Greer, SC

The IGW Ireland Surname Registry has been updated with almost 200 new names. If you submitted a name, please check you submission for accuracy. If you need to make a correction, change your email address or update you information, submit a new form and in the field needing change put 'change' after your info. You can check the registries at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ Also, note on the website that we are starting a new project to transcribe and get online the 1864 Ireland Birth Index. There are over 500 pages to this index with hundreds of names on each page. If you would like more information on how you can help, there is an email link under, Help Wanted, on the above site. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, IGW Country Coordinator

Check out this site: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/troy/MarshallInfirmary.htm It is part of the 1875 census and the info supplied by Bill McGrath. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

The Asylum was located on Linden Avenue, an extremely steep street with treacherous turns that runs between Pawling Avenue and Spring Avenue. I remember it clearly as my Grandfather was also there and in fact died there in 1949, the year before I was born. My parents often used the hill as a shortcut from South Troy to the East Side. The buildings stood for some time, but then were torn down. There are now townhouses or condos there. Kristin **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

If your great aunt was involuntarily committed there must have been a court order to do so. Some years ago in Oklahoma researching a similar situation my wife and I discovered the records from the 1890's were sealed. Jim Owens ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna K. Vaughn" <dkvaughn@nycap.rr.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 1:04 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Marshall Infirmary - Attention Courtney Shepard > There are general records on the Marshall Infirmary at the Rensselaer Co. > Historical Society in Troy, contact the research librarian. > http://www.rchsonline.org/library.htm > > The Marshall Infirmary opened in 1851 and closed in the 1950's. Awhile > ago, > I contacted the NYS Office of Mental Health, who informed me they do not > have patient records for the Marshall Infirmary, and that there were no > regulations at that time for the disposition of patient records in > institutions such as this. They also stated that in addition to patients > with "insanity," part of the Marshall Infirmary was for acute care with > some > terminally ill patients. I also contacted the NYS Archives but they could > not help me, either. > > Donna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lizette Strait" <lstrait94@earthlink.net> > To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 11:31 AM > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Welcome to TIGS > > >> Hi Listers, >> >> I like to welcome Courtney Shepard to the list. Below you will find her >> query. As always, any help is greatly appreciated. >> >> Cheers, >> Lizette >> >> >> Courtney Shepard wrote: >> >> I saw your Troy Irish Genealogy Society website while searching for >> information concerning the city of Troy and I wondered if you would be >> able to help me with information on the Marshall Infirmary. >> >> I searched but cannot find anything on whether or not it still exists and >> if so, where I would be able to contact the Infirmary. (I'm assuming it >> doesn't exist anymore.) >> >> My great aunt Mary was involuntarily committed to the Infirmary in 1931 >> and I would like to locate any existing records. Please direct me to a >> further line of inquiry, if at all possible. >> >> Thanks, >> Courtney Shepard >> >> >> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are general records on the Marshall Infirmary at the Rensselaer Co. Historical Society in Troy, contact the research librarian. http://www.rchsonline.org/library.htm The Marshall Infirmary opened in 1851 and closed in the 1950's. Awhile ago, I contacted the NYS Office of Mental Health, who informed me they do not have patient records for the Marshall Infirmary, and that there were no regulations at that time for the disposition of patient records in institutions such as this. They also stated that in addition to patients with "insanity," part of the Marshall Infirmary was for acute care with some terminally ill patients. I also contacted the NYS Archives but they could not help me, either. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lizette Strait" <lstrait94@earthlink.net> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 11:31 AM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Welcome to TIGS > Hi Listers, > > I like to welcome Courtney Shepard to the list. Below you will find her > query. As always, any help is greatly appreciated. > > Cheers, > Lizette > > > Courtney Shepard wrote: > > I saw your Troy Irish Genealogy Society website while searching for > information concerning the city of Troy and I wondered if you would be > able to help me with information on the Marshall Infirmary. > > I searched but cannot find anything on whether or not it still exists and > if so, where I would be able to contact the Infirmary. (I'm assuming it > doesn't exist anymore.) > > My great aunt Mary was involuntarily committed to the Infirmary in 1931 > and I would like to locate any existing records. Please direct me to a > further line of inquiry, if at all possible. > > Thanks, > Courtney Shepard > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Listers, I like to welcome Courtney Shepard to the list. Below you will find her query. As always, any help is greatly appreciated. Cheers, Lizette Courtney Shepard wrote: I saw your Troy Irish Genealogy Society website while searching for information concerning the city of Troy and I wondered if you would be able to help me with information on the Marshall Infirmary. I searched but cannot find anything on whether or not it still exists and if so, where I would be able to contact the Infirmary. (I'm assuming it doesn't exist anymore.) My great aunt Mary was involuntarily committed to the Infirmary in 1931 and I would like to locate any existing records. Please direct me to a further line of inquiry, if at all possible. Thanks, Courtney Shepard