I have a VISTA, and have a few comments. I have found it a little difficult to use, alot of bells and whistles that take time to figure out. The one important thing I want to tell you, that I found out the hard way is that VISTA is apparently not compatable with the MacAfee anti-virus, which is preloaded onto the computer. It blocked my emails/internet. I had to pay Microsoft $59 to fix the problem, and the computer was only 3 weeks old. I finally found someone at DELL who advised me to download AVG antivirus instead of MacAfee, and it was free! It was what this technician used on his own VISTA. I haven't had a problem since. Good luck! Julie > Yes! Does anyone else have VISTA that wants to comment? I couldn't find > a > computer that still has XP. I do like it (VISTA) so far but I've heard > that > they haven't gotten all the "kinks" out of it. Time will tell! > > Donna

Yes! Does anyone else have VISTA that wants to comment? I couldn't find a computer that still has XP. I do like it (VISTA) so far but I've heard that they haven't gotten all the "kinks" out of it. Time will tell! Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <CWald36709@aol.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] test > Received. Do you have VISTA? > > > In a message dated 5/12/2008 6:34:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > dkvaughn@nycap.rr.com writes: > > new computer is up and running (I hope!) and I'm checking that I can post > to > > the list. > > Donna > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Received. Do you have VISTA? In a message dated 5/12/2008 6:34:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dkvaughn@nycap.rr.com writes: new computer is up and running (I hope!) and I'm checking that I can post to the list. Donna ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

new computer is up and running (I hope!) and I'm checking that I can post to the list. Donna

I've enjoyed the stories of the baseball players as well. My dad (now 86) can recite the Evers to Tinker to Chance play in great detail. Dad's grandmother & aunts; Johanna, Bertha, & Nora Minehan lived at 356 First St and I believe the Evers family also lived there for a while. We also have a connection to the Troy baseball: Daniel J. Minehan. He is "somehow" related to our Minehan clan only we have not closed the gap yet. Daniel began his career with the Buffaloes. He also played with Glen Falls and Minneapolis in the Western League. He led the league for a season in batting average and won an award of a silver bat. He also played with the Louisville Nationals and Paterson NJ teams. At his retirement he was an umpire with the New York State League. His decendants remain in the Troy area. In fact an interesting monument to Troy baseball can be found at: http://www.ballparkreviews.com click on "places" and you'll see a monumnet for Troy Ny it will show the photos. There is another site his relative found about Troy baseball , I will send that out as soon as he gets it to me. Jeanne Daley KC Missouri -----Original Message----- >From: jill mcnamee <jillmcn@pacbell.net> >Sent: May 11, 2008 1:06 PM >To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Baseball players in Troy, NY > >My brother in law, Sean McNamee, is the swim coach at St Bonaventure >University, and as his dad John McNamee originally was from Troy, I sent >him both the letter from Gerald and the followup which mentioned the >connection to St Boanventure of Marc Evers. >He wrote back: "I know Marc Evers very well. He is with Wachovia Bank in >Charlotte." > >BTW John McNamee was a professor at St Bona's until his death in 1964. He >started the swim team there back in 1948 and was a professor in the >Education department. There have been 4 swim coaches at Bonas...and 3 of >them McNamees :-) > >Jill McNamee > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Theresa Bora" <terrybora@wowway.com> >To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:10 AM >Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Baseball players in Troy, NY > > >> Hi Gerald. I enjoyed your email very much. I'm not related to any of the >> players, but my dad, Tom Diviney, grew up on Second Street in south Troy >> with the Evers boys. Johnny Evers was about 10 years older than dad. >> Dad's >> oldest brother, John Diviney, played on one of the Troy teams with Evers, >> and my dad was the bat-boy. My sons all played baseball (just at Little >> League and high school level) and loved to listen to dad's stories of >> old-time baseball. I forwarded your email on to them because I knew they'd >> like reading about Troy and Evers. If you have more stories about Troy and >> baseball, feel free to email me off-List. Terry in Michigan >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gerald Duffy" <geraldjduffy@worldnet.att.net> >> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:48 PM >> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Baseball players in Troy, NY >> >> >>> I'm 75 years old and a former minor league baseball player in the Chicago >>> White Sox farm system. My father, Tom Duffy, was born on Nov. 30, 1874 in >>> Troy and played semi-pro baseball most of his life.>>>>>>>>>> >> >> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >Troy Irish Genealogy Society >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The French school was St. Jean's School on Second Street, Troy. The school records are probably in the basement of the Catholic Diocese Schools Office on North Allen Street, Albany. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

I will be there. Mimi ----- Original Message ----- From: <Kris6851@aol.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] May Meeting > The May meeting of TIGS will take place next Thursday, the 15th, at the > Redfront Restaurant. The meeting starts at 6:30 and we are hoping to increase > attendance. > Please foward any agenda to items to me this month as Donna will be busy with > her son's upcoming wedding, congrats!!! > Also please show an interest in the group by casting a vote for our slate of > officers in this year's election. We consistently reach out on the list for > participation and do appreciate your responses. > Kris > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lynn and Dorthy, I never lived in Troy or the area but my folks did and did my father's parents. I too remember them talking about Hoboken. Bill Dunwoody ----- Original Message ---- From: Lynn Grice <megrice@attglobal.net> To: ms85ty@earthlink.net; ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:52:17 AM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Marshall Infirmary - Linden Ave Dorothy, I was interested to read that your mother's family referred to Linden Ave as Hoboken. My mother's family did too. My mother grew up on Ida Street and would go over "Hoboken" to go ice skating at Belden's Pond on Pawling Ave. I always thought calling it Hoboken was unique to her family but apparently not. I wonder how that name came to be?? Lynn ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

My Father's family lived on Second & VanBuren. As my father was in the military this was our "Home of Record" as we traveled around the country and around the world. South Troy was where we always came home to. I can also remember Linden Ave being called Hoboken. I also remember running like H*%# to get past Marshall's as we all KNEW it was the Crazy House or the insane asylum. -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Grice Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 20:52 To: ms85ty@earthlink.net; ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Marshall Infirmary - Linden Ave Dorothy, I was interested to read that your mother's family referred to Linden Ave as Hoboken. My mother's family did too. My mother grew up on Ida Street and would go over "Hoboken" to go ice skating at Belden's Pond on Pawling Ave. I always thought calling it Hoboken was unique to her family but apparently not. I wonder how that name came to be?? Lynn ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dorothy, I was interested to read that your mother's family referred to Linden Ave as Hoboken. My mother's family did too. My mother grew up on Ida Street and would go over "Hoboken" to go ice skating at Belden's Pond on Pawling Ave. I always thought calling it Hoboken was unique to her family but apparently not. I wonder how that name came to be?? Lynn

Jan, ignore that first link I sent...it's for regular birth certs. This is the link for genealogy certs. Sorry about that Terry http://www.troyny.gov/city_services_records_genealogy.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa Bora" <terrybora@wowway.com> To: <ms85ty@earthlink.net>; <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Obtaining Birth Certificates ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa Bora" <terrybora@wowway.com> To: <ms85ty@earthlink.net>; <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Obtaining Birth Certificates > This may be what you're looking for. Terry in Mich > http://www.troyny.gov/Applications/appbirthrecord.pdf > > . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ms85ty@earthlink.net> > To: "jan@snowonder.ca," <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Obtaining Birth Certificates > > >> Jan >> >> You can contact the Vital Statistics office at Troy City Hall. The >> application for a birth certificate is on line from the Troy NY web site. >> Sorry I have not figured out how to get the web address in the email. >> >> Dorothy >> >> >>> > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This may be what you're looking for. Terry in Mich http://www.troyny.gov/Applications/appbirthrecord.pdf . ----- Original Message ----- From: <ms85ty@earthlink.net> To: "jan@snowonder.ca," <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Obtaining Birth Certificates > Jan > > You can contact the Vital Statistics office at Troy City Hall. The > application for a birth certificate is on line from the Troy NY web site. > Sorry I have not figured out how to get the web address in the email. > > Dorothy > > >>

I might be wrong, but Marshall's still had people working there later than 1950. We had a puppy in 1953 that got out of the yard (I grew up on Fourth street between Madison and Monroe) he followed a woman, who worked there to work. My mother's family referred to Linden Avenue as Hoboken or the back way. My mother's Grandparents were split between South Troy and the Mt Ida area. When she saw her father's family she came down the back way. My mother grew up on Congress Street by the Farnham (my spelling might be off) Steamer, which is now a Stewards. Dorothy > [Original Message] > From: <kris6851@aol.com> > To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Date: 4/8/2008 3:57:58 PM > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Marshall Infirmary - Attention CourtneyShepard > > Per Donna's information it closed in 1950 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Courtney Chadwick-Shepard <cchadwick_shepard@hotmail.com> > To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 3:34 pm > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Marshall Infirmary - Attention Courtney Shepard > > > > > When did the Infirmary close? Was it about 1949? I wonder if my cousins remember > it from back then? > > Thanks, > Courtney > > > From: Kris6851@aol.com > > Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 23:23:53 -0400 > > To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Marshall Infirmary - Attention Courtney > Shepard > > > > The Asylum was located on Linden Avenue, an extremely steep street with > > treacherous turns that runs between Pawling Avenue and Spring Avenue. I > remember > > it clearly as my Grandfather was also there and in fact died there in 1949, > the > > year before I was born. My parents often used the hill as a shortcut from > > South Troy to the East Side. The buildings stood for some time, but then were > > > torn down. There are now townhouses or condos there. > > Kristin > > > > > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh _getintouch_042008 > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jan You can contact the Vital Statistics office at Troy City Hall. The application for a birth certificate is on line from the Troy NY web site. Sorry I have not figured out how to get the web address in the email. Dorothy > [Original Message] > From: Jan Griffiths <jan@snowonder.ca> > To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/9/2008 7:43:18 PM > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Obtaining Birth Certificates > > How can I obtain a copy of a birth certificate for my Grandfather born in > Troy in 1891? I have the certificate number. > > Thanx, Jan. > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My brother in law, Sean McNamee, is the swim coach at St Bonaventure University, and as his dad John McNamee originally was from Troy, I sent him both the letter from Gerald and the followup which mentioned the connection to St Boanventure of Marc Evers. He wrote back: "I know Marc Evers very well. He is with Wachovia Bank in Charlotte." BTW John McNamee was a professor at St Bona's until his death in 1964. He started the swim team there back in 1948 and was a professor in the Education department. There have been 4 swim coaches at Bonas...and 3 of them McNamees :-) Jill McNamee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa Bora" <terrybora@wowway.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Baseball players in Troy, NY > Hi Gerald. I enjoyed your email very much. I'm not related to any of the > players, but my dad, Tom Diviney, grew up on Second Street in south Troy > with the Evers boys. Johnny Evers was about 10 years older than dad. > Dad's > oldest brother, John Diviney, played on one of the Troy teams with Evers, > and my dad was the bat-boy. My sons all played baseball (just at Little > League and high school level) and loved to listen to dad's stories of > old-time baseball. I forwarded your email on to them because I knew they'd > like reading about Troy and Evers. If you have more stories about Troy and > baseball, feel free to email me off-List. Terry in Michigan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerald Duffy" <geraldjduffy@worldnet.att.net> > To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:48 PM > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Baseball players in Troy, NY > > >> I'm 75 years old and a former minor league baseball player in the Chicago >> White Sox farm system. My father, Tom Duffy, was born on Nov. 30, 1874 in >> Troy and played semi-pro baseball most of his life.>>>>>>>>>> > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Gerald. I enjoyed your email very much. I'm not related to any of the players, but my dad, Tom Diviney, grew up on Second Street in south Troy with the Evers boys. Johnny Evers was about 10 years older than dad. Dad's oldest brother, John Diviney, played on one of the Troy teams with Evers, and my dad was the bat-boy. My sons all played baseball (just at Little League and high school level) and loved to listen to dad's stories of old-time baseball. I forwarded your email on to them because I knew they'd like reading about Troy and Evers. If you have more stories about Troy and baseball, feel free to email me off-List. Terry in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Duffy" <geraldjduffy@worldnet.att.net> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:48 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Baseball players in Troy, NY > I'm 75 years old and a former minor league baseball player in the Chicago > White Sox farm system. My father, Tom Duffy, was born on Nov. 30, 1874 in > Troy and played semi-pro baseball most of his life.>>>>>>>>>>

These are such interesting and helpful posts. I have my own if it could ring any bells with other listers. My great grandfather William E. Fitzgerald b.1832 in Limerick who came to Troy about 1850 with his brother (name ?) probably married and then moved to St. Louis after his wife died. f.a. Healy > From: terrybora@wowway.com > To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 10:10:15 -0400 > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Baseball players in Troy, NY > > Hi Gerald. I enjoyed your email very much. I'm not related to any of the > players, but my dad, Tom Diviney, grew up on Second Street in south Troy > with the Evers boys. Johnny Evers was about 10 years older than dad. Dad's > oldest brother, John Diviney, played on one of the Troy teams with Evers, > and my dad was the bat-boy. My sons all played baseball (just at Little > League and high school level) and loved to listen to dad's stories of > old-time baseball. I forwarded your email on to them because I knew they'd > like reading about Troy and Evers. If you have more stories about Troy and > baseball, feel free to email me off-List. Terry in Michigan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerald Duffy" <geraldjduffy@worldnet.att.net> > To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:48 PM > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Baseball players in Troy, NY > > > > I'm 75 years old and a former minor league baseball player in the Chicago > > White Sox farm system. My father, Tom Duffy, was born on Nov. 30, 1874 in > > Troy and played semi-pro baseball most of his life.>>>>>>>>>> > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The May meeting of TIGS will take place next Thursday, the 15th, at the Redfront Restaurant. The meeting starts at 6:30 and we are hoping to increase attendance. Please foward any agenda to items to me this month as Donna will be busy with her son's upcoming wedding, congrats!!! Also please show an interest in the group by casting a vote for our slate of officers in this year's election. We consistently reach out on the list for participation and do appreciate your responses. Kris **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

Wednesday April 2 2008TroyRecord Article100yearsagoThursday April 2, 1908 “YMCA Current Topics welcome state education commissioner Andrew S Draper to Town to talk on education in Troy .Draper says there must be no partisanship in the administration of schools. While emphasizing his commitment to a common school system Draper questions whether to put all students on the same career track. There seems to be too much of an inclination in this country to teach boys that they must reach the top of the ladder and must be satisfied with nothing but the President of the United States. Draper would rather see more boys put on a vocational track.He thought it a mistake to make a poor professional man out of a boy who would make a high class craftsman. Photo of the day Troy Record Friday April 2, 2008 1945 photo of Michelina Cassella and her bridegroom Frank Gimmelli, married at ST Mary’s Church in Waterford. Tuesday April 1, 2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoWednesday April 1, 1908 “Saloon owners who want to sell alcohol for the remainder of 1908 have to get new excise licenses by May 1. An unusually low number of applications have been filed so far. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)