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You know that when the St. John's (Episcopal) in Cohoes closed and moved to Vliet St.,the city of Cohoes took over the old church and now uses the building as the Cohoes Library. I really commend the politicians who made that possible. They were (of course) anxious to remove any signs of Christian habitation and in doing so donated four panels of stained glass windows to the new church. They did retain the Tiffany windows for obvious reasons. The new church paid to have the windows restored and mounted in the new church. When researching the windows for insurance purposes we discovered that they were the work of a man who survived the holocaust (he was in a concentration camp)and immigrated to this country where he eventually was commissioned to do windows in the National Cathedral in Washington. That certainly upped the premium! My point is this; that I have always felt a sense of sadness and loss when I see windows donated by people to honor their loved ones dumped along with the churches that housed them. I think it would be great to try and get some laws on the books to insure that they do not just crumble and fall apart. Certainly there are new churches that might want to inherit them and even pay for the restoration and installation in their churches. I was recently in St. Joseph's church (in Albany now in the process of restoration) for a concert and it was sad to see how the windows had deteriorated and how much it was going to cost to have them restored. Is there any organization that concerns itself with preserving the donated windows? Even if they just took pictures and recorded the information it would be a way of honoring the families who often sacrificed to donate a window in memory of their loved ones. I think they thought it would a memorial for ever. Another point...someone from Heritage Hunters told me that someone was transcribing the records from St. Particks church in Cohoes (closed by the Diocese quite a while ago) but I have not been able to track that down. The Catholic Diocese should be made aware that people are interested in transcribing records of churches that are closing. It drives me crazy when trying to get information and being told that the records were burned in a fire (like some of military records kept by the government and census records) or have been destroyed in some other kind of disaster. The more places the records are kept the safer our heritage. Anyway just a few thoughts. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Deerbea5@aol.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] TIGS Data Base/Church Memorials > Bill > I think this is a fabulous idea When reading the story about St > Lawrence's > church It Made me think... It would be a great idea to take photo's > of > the Churches and other historical buildings to help preserve the memory > of > them I remember St Lawrence's was a beautiful Church with Wooden > Altars > Pat > > > In a message dated 7/7/2008 11:35:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > seamus@nycap.rr.com writes: > > As a genealogy researcher we think of birth dates, marriage dates, death > dates, as the bare bones of an ancestors record. What the individual did > in > life, what were the accomplishments, what sacrifices were made, I think > add > "flesh" to that ancestors bones and give us a better picture of that > individual > we never knew. > > If you look at the various TIGS projects on line, you will see that > approximately seven of the current TIGS projects reflect this thinking. > For example > with the Alderman data base, we can observe that our ancestor was a > Alderman > year in and year out in a particular ward in Troy or with the Bank > Officers > data base we can see a lifetime of service in a particular Troy Bank. > These > little details of a persons life add some "flesh" to that persons > history. > > So along this line it would be interesting to have some list discussion > on > the following idea for a new TIGS project. > > Last year while visiting a son in Ridgefield, Conn., I attended mass at > St. > Mary's Church and spent some time reading the various inscriptions on the > stained glass windows. Lots of information on these memorials. Family > names, > individual names of family members, some dates of death, etc. I thought > then > that this would be an interesting idea for a TIGS data base on the > various > memorials in Troy area churches. If your families ancestors scrimped and > saved > to donate a church memorial which carries the family name wouldn't; you > like > to know about it? Does this information add "flesh" to that ancestors > bones? > > As many list members know, over the years Troy has seen Holy Trinity > Church, > St. Lawrence's Church and St. Jean deBaptiste Church all closed. If > there > were family names on memorials in these churches are they still there or > have they been removed? I know the names from my family's church, St. > Michael's, are long gone as the original building was destroyed by fire in > the 1970's. > > With the recent announcement of the possible closing of the following > churches in Troy, how many more memorials with our ancestors names will > be lost? > > List of Troy Churches From The Albany Times Union: > > St. Mary's Church > St. Paul the Apostle Church > St. Peter's Church > St. Francis de Sales Church > St. William's Church > St. Patrick's Church > > So, if any list members have any thoughts on this idea, pro or con, they > are > invited to post their comments to the list. > > Regards, > > Bill McGrath > TIGS Project Coordinator > Clifton Park, NY > > > > > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? 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Hi, I am sure everyone would be willing to donate something toward preserving our heritage. It would be a shame to lose irreplaceable records, would these churches give the records to TIGS? v -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Julie Cashman" <cashman4@comcast.net> > I find it heartbreaking to learn that these records could be gone forever. > As a fellow researcher, I understand the implications of losing these > churches and the information they hold, (ever try to find records in > Ireland?) > I think it's up to us to preserve our heritage, and put records, photos, etc > on the website, or have it available at the Troy library perhaps. > Would us "out of state-ers" be able to help by donations? > Julie Cashman > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill I think this is a fabulous idea When reading the story about St Lawrence's church It Made me think... It would be a great idea to take photo's of the Churches and other historical buildings to help preserve the memory of them I remember St Lawrence's was a beautiful Church with Wooden Altars Pat In a message dated 7/7/2008 11:35:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, seamus@nycap.rr.com writes: As a genealogy researcher we think of birth dates, marriage dates, death dates, as the bare bones of an ancestors record. What the individual did in life, what were the accomplishments, what sacrifices were made, I think add "flesh" to that ancestors bones and give us a better picture of that individual we never knew. If you look at the various TIGS projects on line, you will see that approximately seven of the current TIGS projects reflect this thinking. For example with the Alderman data base, we can observe that our ancestor was a Alderman year in and year out in a particular ward in Troy or with the Bank Officers data base we can see a lifetime of service in a particular Troy Bank. These little details of a persons life add some "flesh" to that persons history. So along this line it would be interesting to have some list discussion on the following idea for a new TIGS project. Last year while visiting a son in Ridgefield, Conn., I attended mass at St. Mary's Church and spent some time reading the various inscriptions on the stained glass windows. Lots of information on these memorials. Family names, individual names of family members, some dates of death, etc. I thought then that this would be an interesting idea for a TIGS data base on the various memorials in Troy area churches. If your families ancestors scrimped and saved to donate a church memorial which carries the family name wouldn't; you like to know about it? Does this information add "flesh" to that ancestors bones? As many list members know, over the years Troy has seen Holy Trinity Church, St. Lawrence's Church and St. Jean deBaptiste Church all closed. If there were family names on memorials in these churches are they still there or have they been removed? I know the names from my family's church, St. Michael's, are long gone as the original building was destroyed by fire in the 1970's. With the recent announcement of the possible closing of the following churches in Troy, how many more memorials with our ancestors names will be lost? List of Troy Churches From The Albany Times Union: St. Mary's Church St. Paul the Apostle Church St. Peter's Church St. Francis de Sales Church St. William's Church St. Patrick's Church So, if any list members have any thoughts on this idea, pro or con, they are invited to post their comments to the list. Regards, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Great Idea, pictures would also be helpful. Some one told me that there might be a church window for the Lannigan family but I never heard any more about it, can't remember which church. Wish I lived close enough to help. A.E Fadden It's always darkest before dawn. So if you're going to steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it. --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Bill & Cathy McGrath <seamus@nycap.rr.com> wrote: From: Bill & Cathy McGrath <seamus@nycap.rr.com> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] TIGS Data Base/Church Memorials To: NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-L@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 10:09 AM As a genealogy researcher we think of birth dates, marriage dates, death dates, as the bare bones of an ancestors record. What the individual did in life, what were the accomplishments, what sacrifices were made, I think add "flesh" to that ancestors bones and give us a better picture of that individual we never knew. If you look at the various TIGS projects on line, you will see that approximately seven of the current TIGS projects reflect this thinking. For example with the Alderman data base, we can observe that our ancestor was a Alderman year in and year out in a particular ward in Troy or with the Bank Officers data base we can see a lifetime of service in a particular Troy Bank. These little details of a persons life add some "flesh" to that persons history. So along this line it would be interesting to have some list discussion on the following idea for a new TIGS project. Last year while visiting a son in Ridgefield, Conn., I attended mass at St. Mary's Church and spent some time reading the various inscriptions on the stained glass windows. Lots of information on these memorials. Family names, individual names of family members, some dates of death, etc. I thought then that this would be an interesting idea for a TIGS data base on the various memorials in Troy area churches. If your families ancestors scrimped and saved to donate a church memorial which carries the family name wouldn't; you like to know about it? Does this information add "flesh" to that ancestors bones? As many list members know, over the years Troy has seen Holy Trinity Church, St. Lawrence's Church and St. Jean deBaptiste Church all closed. If there were family names on memorials in these churches are they still there or have they been removed? I know the names from my family's church, St. Michael's, are long gone as the original building was destroyed by fire in the 1970's. With the recent announcement of the possible closing of the following churches in Troy, how many more memorials with our ancestors names will be lost? List of Troy Churches From The Albany Times Union: St. Mary's Church St. Paul the Apostle Church St. Peter's Church St. Francis de Sales Church St. William's Church St. Patrick's Church So, if any list members have any thoughts on this idea, pro or con, they are invited to post their comments to the list. Regards, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill, I think this is a good idea and before more churches are closed or demolished. Actually, we have a family name in St. Augustine's on a window --John Farrell. It turns out that, accourding to family stories, that the solicitor came to the famr of his father, Michael Patrick (my great grandfather) when Michael was out in the field. So his mother, catherine, said : Pu our son John's name on the window. Marge Farrell On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Bill & Cathy McGrath wrote: > As a genealogy researcher we think of birth dates, marriage dates, > death dates, as the bare bones of an ancestors record. What the > individual did in life, what were the accomplishments, what > sacrifices were made, I think add "flesh" to that ancestors bones > and give us a better picture of that individual we never knew. > > If you look at the various TIGS projects on line, you will see that > approximately seven of the current TIGS projects reflect this > thinking. For example with the Alderman data base, we can observe > that our ancestor was a Alderman year in and year out in a > particular ward in Troy or with the Bank Officers data base we can > see a lifetime of service in a particular Troy Bank. These little > details of a persons life add some "flesh" to that persons history. > > So along this line it would be interesting to have some list > discussion on the following idea for a new TIGS project. > > Last year while visiting a son in Ridgefield, Conn., I attended > mass at St. Mary's Church and spent some time reading the various > inscriptions on the stained glass windows. Lots of information on > these memorials. Family names, individual names of family members, > some dates of death, etc. I thought then that this would be an > interesting idea for a TIGS data base on the various memorials in > Troy area churches. If your families ancestors scrimped and saved > to donate a church memorial which carries the family name wouldn't; > you like to know about it? Does this information add "flesh" to > that ancestors bones? > > As many list members know, over the years Troy has seen Holy > Trinity Church, St. Lawrence's Church and St. Jean deBaptiste > Church all closed. If there were family names on memorials in > these churches are they still there or have they been removed? I > know the names from my family's church, St. Michael's, are long > gone as the original building was destroyed by fire in the 1970's. > > With the recent announcement of the possible closing of the > following churches in Troy, how many more memorials with our > ancestors names will be lost? > > List of Troy Churches From The Albany Times Union: > > St. Mary's Church > St. Paul the Apostle Church > St. Peter's Church > St. Francis de Sales Church > St. William's Church > St. Patrick's Church > > So, if any list members have any thoughts on this idea, pro or con, > they are invited to post their comments to the list. > > Regards, > > Bill McGrath > TIGS Project Coordinator > Clifton Park, NY > > > > > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH- > GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have an address for the now closed, not sure if it is destroyed, 9th Presbyterian Church of Troy?  I know when membership declined a number of churches consolidated, this being one, but I am not sure what became of it.  I cannot find any record of the address for it anywhere.       --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Deerbea5@aol.com <Deerbea5@aol.com> wrote: From: Deerbea5@aol.com <Deerbea5@aol.com> Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] TIGS Data Base/Church Memorials To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 6:45 PM Bill I think this is a fabulous idea When reading the story about St Lawrence's church It Made me think... It would be a great idea to take photo's of the Churches and other historical buildings to help preserve the memory of them I remember St Lawrence's was a beautiful Church with Wooden Altars Pat In a message dated 7/7/2008 11:35:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, seamus@nycap.rr.com writes: As a genealogy researcher we think of birth dates, marriage dates, death dates, as the bare bones of an ancestors record. What the individual did in life, what were the accomplishments, what sacrifices were made, I think add "flesh" to that ancestors bones and give us a better picture of that individual we never knew. If you look at the various TIGS projects on line, you will see that approximately seven of the current TIGS projects reflect this thinking. For example with the Alderman data base, we can observe that our ancestor was a Alderman year in and year out in a particular ward in Troy or with the Bank Officers data base we can see a lifetime of service in a particular Troy Bank. These little details of a persons life add some "flesh" to that persons history. So along this line it would be interesting to have some list discussion on the following idea for a new TIGS project. Last year while visiting a son in Ridgefield, Conn., I attended mass at St. Mary's Church and spent some time reading the various inscriptions on the stained glass windows. Lots of information on these memorials. Family names, individual names of family members, some dates of death, etc. I thought then that this would be an interesting idea for a TIGS data base on the various memorials in Troy area churches. If your families ancestors scrimped and saved to donate a church memorial which carries the family name wouldn't; you like to know about it? Does this information add "flesh" to that ancestors bones? As many list members know, over the years Troy has seen Holy Trinity Church, St. Lawrence's Church and St. Jean deBaptiste Church all closed. If there were family names on memorials in these churches are they still there or have they been removed? I know the names from my family's church, St. Michael's, are long gone as the original building was destroyed by fire in the 1970's. With the recent announcement of the possible closing of the following churches in Troy, how many more memorials with our ancestors names will be lost? List of Troy Churches From The Albany Times Union: St. Mary's Church St. Paul the Apostle Church St. Peter's Church St. Francis de Sales Church St. William's Church St. Patrick's Church So, if any list members have any thoughts on this idea, pro or con, they are invited to post their comments to the list. Regards, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I find it heartbreaking to learn that these records could be gone forever. As a fellow researcher, I understand the implications of losing these churches and the information they hold, (ever try to find records in Ireland?) I think it's up to us to preserve our heritage, and put records, photos, etc on the website, or have it available at the Troy library perhaps. Would us "out of state-ers" be able to help by donations? Julie Cashman

Hi, Bill and all, I was delighted to find the obit of my greatgrandfather, Timothy McAuliffe, in the Troy newspaper. He was a mason and a builder and at the time of his death was over-seeing the construction of St. Lawrence Church in Troy. My sister and I went to the church on a Sunday, hoping it would be open, and it was; however, it seemed most of the interior had been painted over and it was very plain---much to our disappointment. I think your suggestion about recording memorials in the churches is excellent and of great import. I just hope it is not too late. My McA. family attended St. Mary's Church, and while there I saw an exquisitely carved baptismal font made of wood. I asked the church secretary about it, but there was no information that she knew about in their records.One can only hope that all those church records will be saved for history's sake. Mary McAuliffe Nigro **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

great story! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret A. Farrell" <marge667@earthlink.net> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] TIGS Data Base/Church Memorials > Bill, > > I think this is a good idea and before more churches are closed or > demolished. Actually, we have a family name in St. Augustine's on a > window --John Farrell. It turns out that, accourding to family > stories, that the solicitor came to the famr of his father, Michael > Patrick (my great grandfather) when Michael was out in the field. So > his mother, catherine, said : Pu our son John's name on the window. > > Marge Farrell > > On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Bill & Cathy McGrath wrote: > >> As a genealogy researcher we think of birth dates, marriage dates, >> death dates, as the bare bones of an ancestors record. What the >> individual did in life, what were the accomplishments, what >> sacrifices were made, I think add "flesh" to that ancestors bones >> and give us a better picture of that individual we never knew. >> >> If you look at the various TIGS projects on line, you will see that >> approximately seven of the current TIGS projects reflect this >> thinking. For example with the Alderman data base, we can observe >> that our ancestor was a Alderman year in and year out in a >> particular ward in Troy or with the Bank Officers data base we can >> see a lifetime of service in a particular Troy Bank. These little >> details of a persons life add some "flesh" to that persons history. >> >> So along this line it would be interesting to have some list >> discussion on the following idea for a new TIGS project. >> >> Last year while visiting a son in Ridgefield, Conn., I attended >> mass at St. Mary's Church and spent some time reading the various >> inscriptions on the stained glass windows. Lots of information on >> these memorials. Family names, individual names of family members, >> some dates of death, etc. I thought then that this would be an >> interesting idea for a TIGS data base on the various memorials in >> Troy area churches. If your families ancestors scrimped and saved >> to donate a church memorial which carries the family name wouldn't; >> you like to know about it? Does this information add "flesh" to >> that ancestors bones? >> >> As many list members know, over the years Troy has seen Holy >> Trinity Church, St. Lawrence's Church and St. Jean deBaptiste >> Church all closed. If there were family names on memorials in >> these churches are they still there or have they been removed? I >> know the names from my family's church, St. Michael's, are long >> gone as the original building was destroyed by fire in the 1970's. >> >> With the recent announcement of the possible closing of the >> following churches in Troy, how many more memorials with our >> ancestors names will be lost? >> >> List of Troy Churches From The Albany Times Union: >> >> St. Mary's Church >> St. Paul the Apostle Church >> St. Peter's Church >> St. Francis de Sales Church >> St. William's Church >> St. Patrick's Church >> >> So, if any list members have any thoughts on this idea, pro or con, >> they are invited to post their comments to the list. >> >> Regards, >> >> Bill McGrath >> TIGS Project Coordinator >> Clifton Park, NY >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH- >> GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you for thinking of this before it is too late. I'm too far away to be of help but I will carry that idea to my area (Minneapolis/Minnesota). Kevina Ryan Munnich On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Bill & Cathy McGrath <seamus@nycap.rr.com> wrote: > As a genealogy researcher we think of birth dates, marriage dates, death > dates, as the bare bones of an ancestors record. What the individual did in > life, what were the accomplishments, what sacrifices were made, I think add > "flesh" to that ancestors bones and give us a better picture of that > individual we never knew. > > If you look at the various TIGS projects on line, you will see that > approximately seven of the current TIGS projects reflect this thinking. For > example with the Alderman data base, we can observe that our ancestor was a > Alderman year in and year out in a particular ward in Troy or with the Bank > Officers data base we can see a lifetime of service in a particular Troy > Bank. These little details of a persons life add some "flesh" to that > persons history. > > So along this line it would be interesting to have some list discussion on > the following idea for a new TIGS project. > > Last year while visiting a son in Ridgefield, Conn., I attended mass at St. > Mary's Church and spent some time reading the various inscriptions on the > stained glass windows. Lots of information on these memorials. Family > names, individual names of family members, some dates of death, etc. I > thought then that this would be an interesting idea for a TIGS data base on > the various memorials in Troy area churches. If your families ancestors > scrimped and saved to donate a church memorial which carries the family name > wouldn't; you like to know about it? Does this information add "flesh" to > that ancestors bones? > > As many list members know, over the years Troy has seen Holy Trinity > Church, St. Lawrence's Church and St. Jean deBaptiste Church all closed. If > there were family names on memorials in these churches are they still there > or have they been removed? I know the names from my family's church, St. > Michael's, are long gone as the original building was destroyed by fire in > the 1970's. > > With the recent announcement of the possible closing of the following > churches in Troy, how many more memorials with our ancestors names will be > lost? > > List of Troy Churches From The Albany Times Union: > > St. Mary's Church > St. Paul the Apostle Church > St. Peter's Church > St. Francis de Sales Church > St. William's Church > St. Patrick's Church > > So, if any list members have any thoughts on this idea, pro or con, they > are invited to post their comments to the list. > > Regards, > > Bill McGrath > TIGS Project Coordinator > Clifton Park, NY > > > > > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enytigs/> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Bill, Wow! What a great idea and input to this list. Although I believe that my ancestors (Claytons) did not live in the Troy-Albany area long enough to have made this kind of impact, I know that many on this list and many who might access the database would be most grateful to learn even that much more about an ancestor. To take your idea one step further - this project (if it gets off the ground) should include all memorials at the church - not just stained glass windows. I know of many churches that have placques, under statues, windows, paintings, chalices, etc. Many times these items are recorded somewhere besides the item itself. Just my two cents and good luck with this great idea. Rich in Greer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cathy McGrath" <seamus@nycap.rr.com> To: <NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:09 AM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] TIGS Data Base/Church Memorials > As a genealogy researcher we think of birth dates, marriage dates, death > dates, as the bare bones of an ancestors record. What the individual did > in life, what were the accomplishments, what sacrifices were made, I > think add "flesh" to that ancestors bones and give us a better picture of > that individual we never knew. > > If you look at the various TIGS projects on line, you will see that > approximately seven of the current TIGS projects reflect this thinking. > For example with the Alderman data base, we can observe that our ancestor > was a Alderman year in and year out in a particular ward in Troy or with > the Bank Officers data base we can see a lifetime of service in a > particular Troy Bank. These little details of a persons life add some > "flesh" to that persons history. > > So along this line it would be interesting to have some list discussion on > the following idea for a new TIGS project. > > Last year while visiting a son in Ridgefield, Conn., I attended mass at > St. Mary's Church and spent some time reading the various inscriptions on > the stained glass windows. Lots of information on these memorials. > Family names, individual names of family members, some dates of death, > etc. I thought then that this would be an interesting idea for a TIGS > data base on the various memorials in Troy area churches. If your > families ancestors scrimped and saved to donate a church memorial which > carries the family name wouldn't; you like to know about it? Does this > information add "flesh" to that ancestors bones? > > As many list members know, over the years Troy has seen Holy Trinity > Church, St. Lawrence's Church and St. Jean deBaptiste Church all closed. > If there were family names on memorials in these churches are they still > there or have they been removed? I know the names from my family's > church, St. Michael's, are long gone as the original building was > destroyed by fire in the 1970's. > > With the recent announcement of the possible closing of the following > churches in Troy, how many more memorials with our ancestors names will be > lost? > > List of Troy Churches From The Albany Times Union: > > St. Mary's Church > St. Paul the Apostle Church > St. Peter's Church > St. Francis de Sales Church > St. William's Church > St. Patrick's Church > > So, if any list members have any thoughts on this idea, pro or con, they > are invited to post their comments to the list. > > Regards, > > Bill McGrath > TIGS Project Coordinator > Clifton Park, NY > > > > > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

As a genealogy researcher we think of birth dates, marriage dates, death dates, as the bare bones of an ancestors record. What the individual did in life, what were the accomplishments, what sacrifices were made, I think add "flesh" to that ancestors bones and give us a better picture of that individual we never knew. If you look at the various TIGS projects on line, you will see that approximately seven of the current TIGS projects reflect this thinking. For example with the Alderman data base, we can observe that our ancestor was a Alderman year in and year out in a particular ward in Troy or with the Bank Officers data base we can see a lifetime of service in a particular Troy Bank. These little details of a persons life add some "flesh" to that persons history. So along this line it would be interesting to have some list discussion on the following idea for a new TIGS project. Last year while visiting a son in Ridgefield, Conn., I attended mass at St. Mary's Church and spent some time reading the various inscriptions on the stained glass windows. Lots of information on these memorials. Family names, individual names of family members, some dates of death, etc. I thought then that this would be an interesting idea for a TIGS data base on the various memorials in Troy area churches. If your families ancestors scrimped and saved to donate a church memorial which carries the family name wouldn't; you like to know about it? Does this information add "flesh" to that ancestors bones? As many list members know, over the years Troy has seen Holy Trinity Church, St. Lawrence's Church and St. Jean deBaptiste Church all closed. If there were family names on memorials in these churches are they still there or have they been removed? I know the names from my family's church, St. Michael's, are long gone as the original building was destroyed by fire in the 1970's. With the recent announcement of the possible closing of the following churches in Troy, how many more memorials with our ancestors names will be lost? List of Troy Churches From The Albany Times Union: St. Mary's Church St. Paul the Apostle Church St. Peter's Church St. Francis de Sales Church St. William's Church St. Patrick's Church So, if any list members have any thoughts on this idea, pro or con, they are invited to post their comments to the list. Regards, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY

Jan is a rr person and she has been unable to post this notice so I am cutting and pasting it to the list for her......HELP what is wrong with rr.....Kris From: Jan [rsulliva@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:52 PM To: 'ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com' Subject: July Meeting The July meeting of TIGS will be held on Thursday, July 17, at 6 pm at Jan Sullivan’s in Clifton Park. We will have a covered dish supper, everyone is asked to bring something for the meal such as appetizers, salads, entrées, desserts, etc. Please contact me off list to let me know what you plan to bring to the meeting. An early response would be appreciated so I can plan for the evening. At that time I will be happy to give directions to my home. Jan **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Thanks very much. I'm a Time Warner user and have been having all kinds of computer problems with my Dell. I wouldn't even have known about the glitch. I appreciate all the information and help the list gives. Peggy Quinn in Texas ---- ny-troy-irish-gensoc-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: TEST MESSAGE from the List Administrator > (Stephanie Kinney-Dewey) > 2. Re: Quick family (Rita O'Brien) > 3. Mahoney, Brennan, Doran, Halpin (Julie Cashman) > 4. Re: Quick family (Iglobalone@aol.com) > 5. Re: Quick family (Iglobalone@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:48:58 -0400 > From: Stephanie Kinney-Dewey <phnurse@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] TEST MESSAGE from the List > Administrator > To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAY114-W2061067C11FFB36D67E682A8980@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > HOpe glitches are worked out > stephanie> From: bradmiter@earthlink.net> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:14:47 -0400> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] TEST MESSAGE from the List Administrator> > Please excuse the sending of a test message but there has been a problem> with all Time-Warner RoadRunner subscribers to the list which caused them to> be automatically UN-Subscribed by RootsWeb. This action started when> RoadRunner rejected a message sent to the list yesterday morning. > > As there are 29 RoadRunner members, I have put back only 5 of them in hopes> this test message shows the problem at RoadRunner has been corrected. Then> I will restore all to the list.> > Brad Miter> List Administrator> > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List===> Did you pay your 2008 Dues?> Troy Irish Genealogy Society> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsu! bs! > cribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. Enter for your chance to win. > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobile_Zune_V3 > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:16:26 -0500 > From: "Rita O'Brien" <kerijoco01@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Quick family > To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <5de98cb40807040916o321cbdb0o1aeedafda59d407@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Jeff, I'm sorry but Rose DeLude's email add. must have changed-my email to > her could not be delivered. I notified her that mine had changed in feb. but > she did not respond. I can > tell you that she divorced her husband and remarried. She had 2 children by > her husband, ?QUICK I think she was from troy, but not sure, She is the > daughter of one of my husband's 2nd cousins, from Cohoes NY. Across the > river from Troy. You can try a search for that city. Good luck. > Rita > > > On 7/2/08, Iglobalone@aol.com <Iglobalone@aol.com> wrote: > > > > i would really appreciate it. > > it's a tough family to track and my grandmother is 98 and really wants to > > know. > > thx much. > > jeff gaul > > _iGlobalOne@aol.com_ (mailto:iGlobalOne@aol.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/2/2008 3:23:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > kerijoco01@gmail.com writes: > > > > Hi, I just noticed your request in TIGS web page. I have a relative > > married > > to a 'Quick in NY State. They are divorced and have 2 children. I can look > > them up and give them your email, if you like, as long as Rose agrees. > > That > > is-if she still has the same email address. Let me know. Rita O'Brien > > > > > > > > On 6/1/08, Iglobalone@aol.com <Iglobalone@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > does anyone have info on the Quicks from New York? > > > thx > > > jeff gaul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > > fuel-efficient used cars. ( > > http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Rita > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:31:48 -0400 > From: "Julie Cashman" <cashman4@comcast.net> > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Mahoney, Brennan, Doran, Halpin > To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <DB6A90C9929F4C5B8C87E8CDFA3596F1@thisismyPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I'm hoping someone might recognize the following names. They are buried in our Cashman plot in St Peters Cemetery in Troy, but I'm not sure how they're related to us. > > HANNAH MAHONEY buried 22 Nov 1936 > THOMAS MAHONEY buried 8 Oct 1904 > MARY MAHONEY buried 4 Mar 1947 > > CATHERINE M. DORAN buried 15 Jan 1920 > MRS CATHERINE R. DORAN buried 17 Jan 1955 > EDWARD A. DORAN buried 4 Sep 1954 > > NELLIE A. HALPIN buried 8 Oct 1899 > > ELLEN BRENNAN buried 20 Nov 1894 > > FLORENCE MAHONEY (male) ?? > > Happy 4th! > Julie Cashman > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:00:18 EDT > From: Iglobalone@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Quick family > To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <bcc.2f0fdf98.359fdb52@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > In a message dated 7/4/2008 12:17:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > kerijoco01@gmail.com writes: > > Jeff, I'm sorry but Rose DeLude's email add. must have changed-my email to > her could not be delivered. I notified her that mine had changed in feb. but > she did not respond. I can > tell you that she divorced her husband and remarried. She had 2 children by > her husband, ?QUICK I think she was from troy, but not sure, She is the > daughter of one of my husband's 2nd cousins, from Cohoes NY. Across the > river from Troy. You can try a search for that city. Good luck. > Rita > > > > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:00:54 EDT > From: Iglobalone@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Quick family > To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c18.3bddad14.359fdb76@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > In a message dated 7/4/2008 12:17:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > kerijoco01@gmail.com writes: > > Jeff, I'm sorry but Rose DeLude's email add. must have changed-my email to > her could not be delivered. I notified her that mine had changed in feb. but > she did not respond. I can > tell you that she divorced her husband and remarried. She had 2 children by > her husband, ?QUICK I think she was from troy, but not sure, She is the > daughter of one of my husband's 2nd cousins, from Cohoes NY. Across the > river from Troy. You can try a search for that city. Good luck. > Rita > > > we have ties to troy- but no luck on the quicks. > well, thx anyway. > regards, > jeff > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC list administrator, send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC mailing list, send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Digest, Vol 3, Issue 180 > ****************************************************

In a message dated 7/4/2008 12:17:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kerijoco01@gmail.com writes: Jeff, I'm sorry but Rose DeLude's email add. must have changed-my email to her could not be delivered. I notified her that mine had changed in feb. but she did not respond. I can tell you that she divorced her husband and remarried. She had 2 children by her husband, ?QUICK I think she was from troy, but not sure, She is the daughter of one of my husband's 2nd cousins, from Cohoes NY. Across the river from Troy. You can try a search for that city. Good luck. Rita we have ties to troy- but no luck on the quicks. well, thx anyway. regards, jeff **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

In a message dated 7/4/2008 12:17:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kerijoco01@gmail.com writes: Jeff, I'm sorry but Rose DeLude's email add. must have changed-my email to her could not be delivered. I notified her that mine had changed in feb. but she did not respond. I can tell you that she divorced her husband and remarried. She had 2 children by her husband, ?QUICK I think she was from troy, but not sure, She is the daughter of one of my husband's 2nd cousins, from Cohoes NY. Across the river from Troy. You can try a search for that city. Good luck. Rita **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

I'm hoping someone might recognize the following names. They are buried in our Cashman plot in St Peters Cemetery in Troy, but I'm not sure how they're related to us. HANNAH MAHONEY buried 22 Nov 1936 THOMAS MAHONEY buried 8 Oct 1904 MARY MAHONEY buried 4 Mar 1947 CATHERINE M. DORAN buried 15 Jan 1920 MRS CATHERINE R. DORAN buried 17 Jan 1955 EDWARD A. DORAN buried 4 Sep 1954 NELLIE A. HALPIN buried 8 Oct 1899 ELLEN BRENNAN buried 20 Nov 1894 FLORENCE MAHONEY (male) ?? Happy 4th! Julie Cashman

Jeff, I'm sorry but Rose DeLude's email add. must have changed-my email to her could not be delivered. I notified her that mine had changed in feb. but she did not respond. I can tell you that she divorced her husband and remarried. She had 2 children by her husband, ?QUICK I think she was from troy, but not sure, She is the daughter of one of my husband's 2nd cousins, from Cohoes NY. Across the river from Troy. You can try a search for that city. Good luck. Rita On 7/2/08, Iglobalone@aol.com <Iglobalone@aol.com> wrote: > > i would really appreciate it. > it's a tough family to track and my grandmother is 98 and really wants to > know. > thx much. > jeff gaul > _iGlobalOne@aol.com_ (mailto:iGlobalOne@aol.com) > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/2/2008 3:23:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > kerijoco01@gmail.com writes: > > Hi, I just noticed your request in TIGS web page. I have a relative > married > to a 'Quick in NY State. They are divorced and have 2 children. I can look > them up and give them your email, if you like, as long as Rose agrees. > That > is-if she still has the same email address. Let me know. Rita O'Brien > > > > On 6/1/08, Iglobalone@aol.com <Iglobalone@aol.com> wrote: > > > > does anyone have info on the Quicks from New York? > > thx > > jeff gaul > > > > > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. ( > http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Rita

HOpe glitches are worked out stephanie> From: bradmiter@earthlink.net> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:14:47 -0400> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] TEST MESSAGE from the List Administrator> > Please excuse the sending of a test message but there has been a problem> with all Time-Warner RoadRunner subscribers to the list which caused them to> be automatically UN-Subscribed by RootsWeb. This action started when> RoadRunner rejected a message sent to the list yesterday morning. > > As there are 29 RoadRunner members, I have put back only 5 of them in hopes> this test message shows the problem at RoadRunner has been corrected. Then> I will restore all to the list.> > Brad Miter> List Administrator> > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List===> Did you pay your 2008 Dues?> Troy Irish Genealogy Society> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. Enter for your chance to win. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobile_Zune_V3