Tuesday June 3, 2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoWednesday June 3, 1908 “The Troy automobile Club takes Troy’s orphans for a ride in their automobiles.200 cars transport 1000 children, residents of the Catholic Male Asylum. The Troy Orphan Asylum,St Joseph’s Home and St Vincents Home to an outing at Rensselaer Park. With a motorized police escort and mobile music from Kirkpatricks band and the Troy City Band, the orphans enjoy a chauffeured parade thru the city. Crowds form along the route to greet the children. The mayor reviews the procession while downtown stores put up patriotic decorations. After the ride the children are delivered to the ladies auxiliary of the automobile club.” Photo of the day Troy Record Wednesday June 3, 2008 1925 photo of 5 year old Wayne Wells and 3 year old Mary Wells in Petersburgh. PS if you click on the below link it will take you to the Troy Record newspaper website. From there at the top click on Opinions then click on This Day in the Record and it will give you about a current weeks worth of This day in History. _http://www.troyrecord.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/BigDaily_ (http://www.troyrecord.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/BigDaily) ?_ **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

My great-great-grandparents were John O'Brien and Johanna Shea/Shay, both born in Ireland although exact location is unknown. One or both of them may have died in Ireland. I did locate a Mrs. Johanna O'Brien, housekeeper, who lived on Fourth Street in South Troy. She is buried in an unmarked grave in St. Joseph's Cemetery. She is buried there alone and she is the sole plot owner so I am unable to determine for certain if she is Johanna Shea O'Brien. Known children (all believed to be born in Ireland) were: Catherine, b. prior to 1850, married Jeremiah McNamara/Mack Johanna, b. 1850(?), married John Joseph Mangan (my great-grandparents) Dennis, b. 1852(?), married Catherine Clancy "Brother", (first name unknown), b. 18??. Wife's name unknown. 1 known son named John. ************************* This young John O'Brien (son of Brother) was most likely the fellow who served as pallbearer for his aunt, Catherine Clancy O'Brien, in 1923. The latest I find him in Troy is February, 1938 when he served as pallbearer for his first cousin, Elizabeth Mack Kelley. This particular John O'Brien was alluded to in a previous post...just wanted to clarify that he is in my O'Brien family. M. Alice Mangan Okatie, SC

Thanks Gerry, I doubt there is a connection, but I'm keeping you in my notes anyway, just in case. There are so many names the same as in my family: O'Brien, Duffy (Duffin) and Burke that I think it's worth it. Marianne On Jul 30, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Gerald Duffy wrote: > The John O'Brien (wife Maggie Kieley O'Brien) who had a child named > Rose > Ursula O'Brien was born in County Kilkenny and most of his 11 > siblings were > born in either County Kilkenny or County Waterford in Corbally or > Tramore. > > The Josephine O'Brien (sister of John O'Brien) mentioned in this > thread was > probably born in Corbally, Waterford. > > No one in ths O'Brien family was from County Tipperary. > > How do I know this? My paternal grandmother was Catherine O'Brien > Duffy, one > of the 11 siblings of John O'Brien. > > However, my great grandparents, who settled in Troy, were Michael and > Johanna Burke Duffy, who were married in Forest, Templemore, > Tipperary in > 1835. They probably moved to Tramore, Waterford before twice > migrating to NY > in 1851 (from Dublin) and in 1864 (from Lancashire, England). > > Gerry Duffy > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH- > GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for that information. Perhaps some other O'Brien family can relate to my data...? Confidentiality Notice: Protected Health Information from the Massachusetts Department of Mental Health Protected Health Information is personal and sensitive information related to a person's health care. It is being e-mailed to you after appropriate authorization from the person or under circumstances that do not require the person's authorization. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, the disclosure, copying or distribution of this information is Strictly Prohibited. If you have received this message by error, please notify the sender immediately. Important Warning: This message is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential, the disclosure of which is governed by applicable law. Carol VerCammen Billing Supervisor carol.vercammen@dmh.state.ma.us 5-digit for DMH 73322 508-977-3322 -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Duffy Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:21 AM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Troy O'Briens of Troy from County Waterford. The John O'Brien (wife Maggie Kieley O'Brien) who had a child named Rose Ursula O'Brien was born in County Kilkenny and most of his 11 siblings were born in either County Kilkenny or County Waterford in Corbally or Tramore. The Josephine O'Brien (sister of John O'Brien) mentioned in this thread was probably born in Corbally, Waterford. No one in ths O'Brien family was from County Tipperary. How do I know this? My paternal grandmother was Catherine O'Brien Duffy, one of the 11 siblings of John O'Brien. However, my great grandparents, who settled in Troy, were Michael and Johanna Burke Duffy, who were married in Forest, Templemore, Tipperary in 1835. They probably moved to Tramore, Waterford before twice migrating to NY in 1851 (from Dublin) and in 1864 (from Lancashire, England). Gerry Duffy ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The John O'Brien (wife Maggie Kieley O'Brien) who had a child named Rose Ursula O'Brien was born in County Kilkenny and most of his 11 siblings were born in either County Kilkenny or County Waterford in Corbally or Tramore. The Josephine O'Brien (sister of John O'Brien) mentioned in this thread was probably born in Corbally, Waterford. No one in ths O'Brien family was from County Tipperary. How do I know this? My paternal grandmother was Catherine O'Brien Duffy, one of the 11 siblings of John O'Brien. However, my great grandparents, who settled in Troy, were Michael and Johanna Burke Duffy, who were married in Forest, Templemore, Tipperary in 1835. They probably moved to Tramore, Waterford before twice migrating to NY in 1851 (from Dublin) and in 1864 (from Lancashire, England). Gerry Duffy

Sunday-Monday June 1 -2 ,2008TroyRecord Article 100yearsago Monday June 1-2 ,1908 “Frank W. Carringer receives a three year sentence(3-7) in Dannemora for misappropriation of funds from the City Treasury.Carrington hastily packs a small bag with clothes, a small rug, a small looking glass and other little items. His jailer takes him to the tracks on Sixth Ave where a special Pullman car is waiting. He’s put on board and sent on his way at 11 pm. Photo of the day Troy Record Friday June 1, 2008 1946 photo of Mary Iacketta and Philip Burke’s wedding at St Mary’s Church **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

My info on the O'Brien's comes from the birth certificates of relatives born in Anacarty, Donohill, Tipperary. My Phillip Ryan married a Mary O'Brien who I know had a sister named Josephine but no idea of the other siblings. She was the daughter of Timothy O'Brien and Catherine Costello. Mary was born on 8/11/1834 and the name Lackenacormack is in there somewhere which I believe was an address??? When I saw that Timothy Ryan the son of Phillip and Mary was attended by two pall bearers at his funeral named John O'Brien and William O'Brien I immediately thought there might be a relation. It would explain Tim's relocation to Troy in the first place. Wish I could be of more help. I truly hoped the descendants of both William and John were on the list and might have given me more info. Carol Ver Cammen -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marianne Arnold Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:31 PM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Missing relatives With all the O'Briens floating around, does anyone know of a John O'Brien and Margaret Lynch, married in 1853, probably in Troy? They moved on to Chicago by 1860, so none of the people mentioned would be their descendants, but might possibly be relatives. What is the origin of your O'Briens? I notice Tipperary mentioned. Is that the most common county for O'Briens? I know it is for Burkes. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Marianne Arnold On Jul 23, 2008, at 1:24 PM, VerCammen, Carol (DMH) wrote: > Now on that John and Maggie O'Brien parents of Rose Ursula - do you > have > any further information on the John O'Brien? 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One was > the > pallbearer of catherine clancy O'Brien on 2/19/1923 at Sacred Heart > Church. > > A Josephine O'Brien that was born abt 4/1866 in Ireland. > > > > "Let us remember, that 'if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our > liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' It is a > very > serious > consideration, which should deeply impress our minds, that millions > yet > unborn > may be the miserable sharers in the event." -Samuel Adams. > > > In a message dated 7/23/2008 12:31:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > Carol.Vercammen@state.ma.us writes: > > Thank you so much for anything you can find. In looking over the > email > I posted I realized that I did not put the date. The funeral was on > 4/18/1918. > > Thanks again > > Confidentiality Notice: Protected Health Information from the > Massachusetts Department of Mental Health > > Protected Health Information is personal and sensitive information > related to a person's health care. 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It is a > very > serious > consideration, which should deeply impress our minds, that > millions yet > unborn > may be the miserable sharers in the event." -Samuel Adams. > > > In a message dated 7/23/2008 10:18:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > Carol.Vercammen@state.ma.us writes: > > I was fortunate enough to have a wonderful man at the Troy Library > find > an obituary on a missing family member. According to the > obituary my > family member Timothy Ryan who was the son of Phillip Ryan and Mary > O'Brien Ryan had the following pall bearers at his funeral. > > > > William O'Brien > > John O'Brien > > > > Along with Patrick McCarthy, Charles Donahue, Michael Ryan, Patrick > Flanagan and Edward Pendergast. > > > > We have always wondered what prompted Timothy's move to Troy, New > York > since upon immigration from Tipperary through New York he had > settled > with his wife Ellen McCarthy in the Mansfield, Rhode Island area. I > am > now questioning if perhaps these two O'Brien men were cousins or > even > uncles. > > > > Does anyone have either of these names in their genealogy? If they > are > related to Mary O'Brien Ryan her parents were Timothy O'Brien and > Catherine Costello O'Brien > > And hailed from the area of Lackenocormack, Anacarty, Donohill in > Tipperary. I believe she also had a sister Josephine O'Brien who > raised > Mary's children after her untimely death. > > > > Thanks to all for the great work you do. > > > > Carol VerCammen > > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. 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With all the O'Briens floating around, does anyone know of a John O'Brien and Margaret Lynch, married in 1853, probably in Troy? They moved on to Chicago by 1860, so none of the people mentioned would be their descendants, but might possibly be relatives. What is the origin of your O'Briens? I notice Tipperary mentioned. Is that the most common county for O'Briens? I know it is for Burkes. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Marianne Arnold On Jul 23, 2008, at 1:24 PM, VerCammen, Carol (DMH) wrote: > Now on that John and Maggie O'Brien parents of Rose Ursula - do you > have > any further information on the John O'Brien? Did they live in Troy > and > most importantly did they hail from Tipperary prior? > > Confidentiality Notice: Protected Health Information from the > Massachusetts Department of Mental Health > > Protected Health Information is personal and sensitive information > related to a person's health care. 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One was > the > pallbearer of catherine clancy O'Brien on 2/19/1923 at Sacred Heart > Church. > > A Josephine O'Brien that was born abt 4/1866 in Ireland. > > > > "Let us remember, that 'if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our > liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' It is a > very > serious > consideration, which should deeply impress our minds, that millions > yet > unborn > may be the miserable sharers in the event." -Samuel Adams. > > > In a message dated 7/23/2008 12:31:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > Carol.Vercammen@state.ma.us writes: > > Thank you so much for anything you can find. In looking over the > email > I posted I realized that I did not put the date. The funeral was on > 4/18/1918. > > Thanks again > > Confidentiality Notice: Protected Health Information from the > Massachusetts Department of Mental Health > > Protected Health Information is personal and sensitive information > related to a person's health care. 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It is a > very > serious > consideration, which should deeply impress our minds, that > millions yet > unborn > may be the miserable sharers in the event." -Samuel Adams. > > > In a message dated 7/23/2008 10:18:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > Carol.Vercammen@state.ma.us writes: > > I was fortunate enough to have a wonderful man at the Troy Library > find > an obituary on a missing family member. According to the > obituary my > family member Timothy Ryan who was the son of Phillip Ryan and Mary > O'Brien Ryan had the following pall bearers at his funeral. > > > > William O'Brien > > John O'Brien > > > > Along with Patrick McCarthy, Charles Donahue, Michael Ryan, Patrick > Flanagan and Edward Pendergast. > > > > We have always wondered what prompted Timothy's move to Troy, New > York > since upon immigration from Tipperary through New York he had > settled > with his wife Ellen McCarthy in the Mansfield, Rhode Island area. I > am > now questioning if perhaps these two O'Brien men were cousins or > even > uncles. > > > > Does anyone have either of these names in their genealogy? If they > are > related to Mary O'Brien Ryan her parents were Timothy O'Brien and > Catherine Costello O'Brien > > And hailed from the area of Lackenocormack, Anacarty, Donohill in > Tipperary. I believe she also had a sister Josephine O'Brien who > raised > Mary's children after her untimely death. > > > > Thanks to all for the great work you do. > > > > Carol VerCammen > > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. 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Photo of the day Troy Record Friday May 27, 2008 1958 photo of Papielion ,Dorothy Morine and Bob Dawbney taken on President Street Friday May 30, 2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoSaturday May 30 ,, 1908 “Today is the official memorial day Holiday with parades, speeches and baseball games. The Memorial Day holiday is still commonly called Decoration Day after the practice of decorating graves of Civil War and then extended to the Spanish American War of 1898 vets. Veteran John McGoldrick is the Grand Marshall for the parade and a ceremony at Oakwood Cemetery. Also Prospect Park includes the presentation of a cannon by General James H. Lloyd to Mayor Mann. Jeremiah K. Long of the Long and Marshall law firm is the orator of the day. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Would sks be willing the next time they go to the Troy Library to lookup three death notices? Allie CLAYTON, 7mos, died 2 Oct 1878; 4 Oct 2:6 (male) CLAYTON/CLAXTON, inf, died 2? Jan 1881; 3 Jan 1881 2:6 Frank CLAYTON, 6 days, died 25 Nov 1881; 30 Nov 2:7 Most grateful Rich Nichols, Greer, SC

Monday –Thursday May 26-29 ,2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoTuesday-Friday May 26-29 , 1908 Monday “David N. Carvalho of New York City with 30 years in the NY DA’S office, testifies it is Carrington’s handwriting on M.L.Stevens tax bill. Tuesday” A second handwriting expert , William J Kinsley ,agrees somewhat with Carvalho but says Carrington ‘s handwriting is difficult to imitate. Wednesday – today’s testimony is mostly from character witnesses,Postmaster Joseph A Leggett,Former police superintendent,Edward J McKenna,former alderman George H. Atkins,Dr George L.Meredith,businessman Joseph McKay, Dr Charles G. Myers,insurance agent Werner Streckner. Non character witness ,former treasury clerk,T. Joseph Karr, testifies that sometimes treasury employees wrote up new tax stubs when an original is detached from a bill., so a new stub isn't necessarily proof of theft. Thursday – After closing arguments the case goes to jury AT 7;30 PM. It takes 90 minutes for the jury to render a guilty verdict. Sentencing will be Monday June 1St..” **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

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Pat. my grandmothers ( Ryan) and (McGrath) were both born in Emly. Mcgrath in Lisobihane and Ryan in Borough Road. Thanks for any info you are able to get. It is real thought of you to offer. Mary( Welch) Hayes In a message dated 6/13/2008 9:15:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nymets22@gmail.com writes: These lookups are for only those who *know* their ancestors are from this parish. I should have mentioned that with my first message. If you don't know where your ancestor is from in Ireland, please don't add your surname to the list. I am going to Ireland in the Fall to search the baptism and marriage > records for this RC parish, near Tipperary Town and in the Cashel and > Emly Diocese. These records have been closed to the public until very > recently. Since there are a number of emigrants from this parish that > settled in Troy, if you send me your surnames, I will gladly get the > info if it exists. Records start 1810 and go to 1880 with about a 6 > month gap from Oct 1838 to beginning of 1839. All I want is the > surname, no other info as I will gather all info on the surname because > you never know how they will fit in your family tree puzzle. Please > post it to this list so it will be in the archives for searching. > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

this may show a connection with my O'Briens and carol's. We have Keoughs on our side too. jeff gaul "Let us remember, that 'if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' It is a very serious consideration, which should deeply impress our minds, that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers in the event." -Samuel Adams. In a message dated 7/24/2008 8:28:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kevina@munnich.com writes: I have church certificates, in error, from St. Mary on Lodge St in Albany. Marriage for Pierce J. Ryan and Mary O'Brien10Jun1903 (witnesses: Thomas Ryan and Mary Ryan); Baptismal for Mary Ryan, daughter of Pierce Ryan and Mary O'Brien in Albany 24Jun1904 Baptized 1July1904; sponsors Thomas P. Keough and Sara Brennan. James Edward Ryan b. Albany, Baptized 14Oct1906 (note indicates he may have died at birth); parents Pierce Ryan and Mary O'Brien; no witnesses. I've been trying to find the family these could be useful for. My g grandfather was Matthew Ryan and had a son Michael (and Matthew and Martin). My grandfather was Pierce Ryan (second marriage of Matthew), as was my father. Kevina Munnich kevina@munnich.com **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Do you by chance know the parents of Pierce Ryan or Mary O'Brien? If not, any of their siblings? Thanks for the help -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kevina Munnich Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:28 AM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Missing relatives I have church certificates, in error, from St. Mary on Lodge St in Albany. Marriage for Pierce J. Ryan and Mary O'Brien10Jun1903 (witnesses: Thomas Ryan and Mary Ryan); Baptismal for Mary Ryan, daughter of Pierce Ryan and Mary O'Brien in Albany 24Jun1904 Baptized 1July1904; sponsors Thomas P. Keough and Sara Brennan. James Edward Ryan b. Albany, Baptized 14Oct1906 (note indicates he may have died at birth); parents Pierce Ryan and Mary O'Brien; no witnesses. I've been trying to find the family these could be useful for. My g grandfather was Matthew Ryan and had a son Michael (and Matthew and Martin). My grandfather was Pierce Ryan (second marriage of Matthew), as was my father. Kevina Munnich kevina@munnich.com On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:13 AM, VerCammen, Carol (DMH) < Carol.Vercammen@state.ma.us> wrote: > I was fortunate enough to have a wonderful man at the Troy Library find > an obituary on a missing family member. According to the obituary my > family member Timothy Ryan who was the son of Phillip Ryan and Mary > O'Brien Ryan had the following pall bearers at his funeral. > > > > William O'Brien > > John O'Brien > > > > Along with Patrick McCarthy, Charles Donahue, Michael Ryan, Patrick > Flanagan and Edward Pendergast. > > > > We have always wondered what prompted Timothy's move to Troy, New York > since upon immigration from Tipperary through New York he had settled > with his wife Ellen McCarthy in the Mansfield, Rhode Island area. I am > now questioning if perhaps these two O'Brien men were cousins or even > uncles. > > > > Does anyone have either of these names in their genealogy? If they are > related to Mary O'Brien Ryan her parents were Timothy O'Brien and > Catherine Costello O'Brien > > And hailed from the area of Lackenocormack, Anacarty, Donohill in > Tipperary. I believe she also had a sister Josephine O'Brien who raised > Mary's children after her untimely death. > > > > Thanks to all for the great work you do. > > > > Carol VerCammen > > > > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enytigs/> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sunday May 25 ,2008 TroyRecord Article 100years ago Monday May 25 ,1908 “Evidence mounts in the trial of Frank W. Carrington with the testimony of accountant Justus H Davis saying Carrington could have altered records by dissolving earlier entries with acid. This statement is challenged by defense attorney Lewis E Griffith who says that would have left a yellow stain on the page.Davis also testifies ,in the case of taxpayer M.L.Stevens, the stub and the bill don’t match, implying Carrington destroyed the original and forged a new one. Attorney Griffith says their was a $10,000.00 shortage in Carrington predecessor’s administration and no warrant was sworn out for him.” Photo of the day Troy Record Friday May 25, 2008 1910 photo of a trolley on Pawling Avenue with Emma Willard School in the background. PS if you click on the below link it will take you to the Troy Record newspaper website. From there at the top click on Opinions then click on This Day in the Record and it will give you about a current weeks worth of This day in History. _http://www.troyrecord.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/BigDaily_ (http://www.troyrecord.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/BigDaily) ?_ **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

I have church certificates, in error, from St. Mary on Lodge St in Albany. Marriage for Pierce J. Ryan and Mary O'Brien10Jun1903 (witnesses: Thomas Ryan and Mary Ryan); Baptismal for Mary Ryan, daughter of Pierce Ryan and Mary O'Brien in Albany 24Jun1904 Baptized 1July1904; sponsors Thomas P. Keough and Sara Brennan. James Edward Ryan b. Albany, Baptized 14Oct1906 (note indicates he may have died at birth); parents Pierce Ryan and Mary O'Brien; no witnesses. I've been trying to find the family these could be useful for. My g grandfather was Matthew Ryan and had a son Michael (and Matthew and Martin). My grandfather was Pierce Ryan (second marriage of Matthew), as was my father. Kevina Munnich kevina@munnich.com On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:13 AM, VerCammen, Carol (DMH) < Carol.Vercammen@state.ma.us> wrote: > I was fortunate enough to have a wonderful man at the Troy Library find > an obituary on a missing family member. According to the obituary my > family member Timothy Ryan who was the son of Phillip Ryan and Mary > O'Brien Ryan had the following pall bearers at his funeral. > > > > William O'Brien > > John O'Brien > > > > Along with Patrick McCarthy, Charles Donahue, Michael Ryan, Patrick > Flanagan and Edward Pendergast. > > > > We have always wondered what prompted Timothy's move to Troy, New York > since upon immigration from Tipperary through New York he had settled > with his wife Ellen McCarthy in the Mansfield, Rhode Island area. I am > now questioning if perhaps these two O'Brien men were cousins or even > uncles. > > > > Does anyone have either of these names in their genealogy? If they are > related to Mary O'Brien Ryan her parents were Timothy O'Brien and > Catherine Costello O'Brien > > And hailed from the area of Lackenocormack, Anacarty, Donohill in > Tipperary. I believe she also had a sister Josephine O'Brien who raised > Mary's children after her untimely death. > > > > Thanks to all for the great work you do. > > > > Carol VerCammen > > > > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enytigs/> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

hmm. looking. i know my John had ties to Cty Waterford. They were all pretty much from troy. Including: Whelans, O'Maras, McKeoughs, Dempseys, Desmonds, etc. In a message dated 7/23/2008 1:25:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Carol.Vercammen@state.ma.us writes: Now on that John and Maggie O'Brien parents of Rose Ursula - do you have any further information on the John O'Brien? Did they live in Troy and most importantly did they hail from Tipperary prior? **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)