Gerry, I am always on the lookout for Burkes and Walshes from Troy because I know so little about my great-grandparents. One of my Paternal great-grandparents Richard Walsh lived in Troy for about 35 years before his dealth in 1806. His mother was Mary Burke who married John Walsh in Ireland, unfortunately I don't know where or when. My family was one of many who were all from Cork. Only problem is I haven't found one from Cork yet (Kerry, Mayo, Wexford, etc). If you know any Walshes in your family I love to know about them. Rick Shea (past treasurer) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Duffy" <geraldjduffy@worldnet.att.net> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:21 AM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Troy O'Briens of Troy from County Waterford. > The John O'Brien (wife Maggie Kieley O'Brien) who had a child named Rose > Ursula O'Brien was born in County Kilkenny and most of his 11 siblings > were > born in either County Kilkenny or County Waterford in Corbally or Tramore. > > The Josephine O'Brien (sister of John O'Brien) mentioned in this thread > was > probably born in Corbally, Waterford. > > No one in ths O'Brien family was from County Tipperary. > > How do I know this? My paternal grandmother was Catherine O'Brien Duffy, > one > of the 11 siblings of John O'Brien. > > However, my great grandparents, who settled in Troy, were Michael and > Johanna Burke Duffy, who were married in Forest, Templemore, Tipperary in > 1835. They probably moved to Tramore, Waterford before twice migrating to > NY > in 1851 (from Dublin) and in 1864 (from Lancashire, England). > > Gerry Duffy > > > >

and I have had other people say their greatgrandfathers built the same buildings, go figure, out! Built the McCarthy Building downtown for his friend Mr. McCarthy are MY ears ringing?? Howdy JD, how is Georgia in this summer heat?? May I remind you in a most friendly manner, your ancestor was kicked off the McCarthy Building project for not installing toilets or a front door. It was finished by my Troy Boland ancestor, a Mr. CP Boland and his construction company. See below link!! A fine building it is to this day. HOwever you great granddad's list of accomplishments remains most impressive! http://www.archiplanet.org/wiki/McCarthy_Building<http://www.archiplanet.org/wiki/McCarthy_Building> Go Braves!! best, Michael

I am sending to the list links to a comic book produced by Troy resident, Amy Hallorhan.? Amy is the cousin of Mike McAlonie from TIGS Amy began researching neighborhoods in Troy and why they disappeared.? She obtained a grant to write about neighborhoods for school children.? She decided on Hoosick Street and interviewed many Trojans who grew up in that area.?To interest the kids she decided on a comic format.?This should prove interesting to TIGS members who had family around lower Hoosick Street and were mostly parishioners at St. Pete's, St. Pat's and St. Pauls. Enjoy Kris http://capital-region.chronogram.com/issue/2007/11/Community+Notebook http://capital-region.chronogram.com/issue/2007/12/Community+Notebook

All the historical records that websites like ancestry collected from me, entered into their offical records and then they say the records don't exist for Troy that I have to look in Albany, NY for my ancestors that didn't even live there, but ironically my cousins do. ha! jd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn" <cohoes2@juno.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Wells, Catholic Male &Troy Orphan Asylums,St Joseph & St Vincents Homes >I guess I am not sure what you are talking about. What or who was moved to > Albany? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jedollard" <jedollard@comcast.net> > To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:08 PM > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Wells, Catholic Male &Troy Orphan > Asylums,St Joseph & St Vincents Homes > > >> First I am not angry, resentfull, or even frustrated, but this man >> deserves, >> but I want to post this on this ancestry site >> >> You want to know what is wrong with the Troy Record updates and this >> board >> in general, your Irish relatives can get belittled, glossed over, left >> off >> boards you sign up for and web sites and especially at Ancestory or any >> other historical reference web pages who one listed your relatives in >> Troy, >> but to save space they moved them to Albany. >> >> No wonder I can't do research..... >> >> James E. Dollard-nee 1848 Kilkenny, Ireland-Died May 26,1926 >> Whole family interned in St. Mary's Cemetary >> Builder, Contractor, Canal Superintendant, Entreprenaur >> >> Highlights Built/ retrenched finish of Erie Canal, built major portion of >> Barge Canal, Built the IDE Collar Factory (go across the bridge on >> Hoosick >> St. and look to your left at all those remanants of brick building where >> the >> Collar Factory once stood and is a picture in the Library of Congress)... >> >> Rebuilt two major catholic churches in downtown Troy for Free... >> >> Gets credit for building Catholic church in Hudson, NY >> >> Built or rebuilt the Cannon Building and as compensation took two end >> offices overlooking the south flowing Hudson River... >> >> Built the Frear Building-Source Troy Record >> >> Built the McCarthy Building downtown for his friend Mr. McCarthy >> >> Built the Caldwell Arms Apartments >> >> Built the Troy Hotel-last time I looked it was being occupied by disabled >> folks >> >> Built many houses on 9th St. and Peoples avenue >> >> Too many other constructions to list.....etc... >> >> Built major road systems and highways in Troy and Albany >> >> His son John E. was a Professor at RPI, won an award for building one of >> the >> five major bridges in NYC, worked on two more, went blind at the age of >> 35 >> >> His son Vincent after losing all the wealth went crazy working in Albany >> building prisons >> >> All his sons after the old man died ended up traveling through Central >> and >> South Amercia redoing Catholic Churches >> >> and yes I have received numeous phone calls that start off by saying..."I >> knew your greatgrandfather..." >> >> and I have had other people say their greatgrandfathers built the same >> buildings, go figure, out! >> >> >> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Dreaming of getting away? Click here for an island experience in Hawaii. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nKLPCkFleTRd9gcY4z2zjJ0wcfqcPeUf94zQR5fXWJgnIGJ/ > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I guess I am not sure what you are talking about. What or who was moved to Albany? ----- Original Message ----- From: "jedollard" <jedollard@comcast.net> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Wells, Catholic Male &Troy Orphan Asylums,St Joseph & St Vincents Homes > First I am not angry, resentfull, or even frustrated, but this man > deserves, > but I want to post this on this ancestry site > > You want to know what is wrong with the Troy Record updates and this board > in general, your Irish relatives can get belittled, glossed over, left off > boards you sign up for and web sites and especially at Ancestory or any > other historical reference web pages who one listed your relatives in > Troy, > but to save space they moved them to Albany. > > No wonder I can't do research..... > > James E. Dollard-nee 1848 Kilkenny, Ireland-Died May 26,1926 > Whole family interned in St. Mary's Cemetary > Builder, Contractor, Canal Superintendant, Entreprenaur > > Highlights Built/ retrenched finish of Erie Canal, built major portion of > Barge Canal, Built the IDE Collar Factory (go across the bridge on Hoosick > St. and look to your left at all those remanants of brick building where > the > Collar Factory once stood and is a picture in the Library of Congress)... > > Rebuilt two major catholic churches in downtown Troy for Free... > > Gets credit for building Catholic church in Hudson, NY > > Built or rebuilt the Cannon Building and as compensation took two end > offices overlooking the south flowing Hudson River... > > Built the Frear Building-Source Troy Record > > Built the McCarthy Building downtown for his friend Mr. McCarthy > > Built the Caldwell Arms Apartments > > Built the Troy Hotel-last time I looked it was being occupied by disabled > folks > > Built many houses on 9th St. and Peoples avenue > > Too many other constructions to list.....etc... > > Built major road systems and highways in Troy and Albany > > His son John E. was a Professor at RPI, won an award for building one of > the > five major bridges in NYC, worked on two more, went blind at the age of 35 > > His son Vincent after losing all the wealth went crazy working in Albany > building prisons > > All his sons after the old man died ended up traveling through Central and > South Amercia redoing Catholic Churches > > and yes I have received numeous phone calls that start off by saying..."I > knew your greatgrandfather..." > > and I have had other people say their greatgrandfathers built the same > buildings, go figure, out! > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ____________________________________________________________ Dreaming of getting away? Click here for an island experience in Hawaii. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nKLPCkFleTRd9gcY4z2zjJ0wcfqcPeUf94zQR5fXWJgnIGJ/

First I am not angry, resentfull, or even frustrated, but this man deserves, but I want to post this on this ancestry site You want to know what is wrong with the Troy Record updates and this board in general, your Irish relatives can get belittled, glossed over, left off boards you sign up for and web sites and especially at Ancestory or any other historical reference web pages who one listed your relatives in Troy, but to save space they moved them to Albany. No wonder I can't do research..... James E. Dollard-nee 1848 Kilkenny, Ireland-Died May 26,1926 Whole family interned in St. Mary's Cemetary Builder, Contractor, Canal Superintendant, Entreprenaur Highlights Built/ retrenched finish of Erie Canal, built major portion of Barge Canal, Built the IDE Collar Factory (go across the bridge on Hoosick St. and look to your left at all those remanants of brick building where the Collar Factory once stood and is a picture in the Library of Congress)... Rebuilt two major catholic churches in downtown Troy for Free... Gets credit for building Catholic church in Hudson, NY Built or rebuilt the Cannon Building and as compensation took two end offices overlooking the south flowing Hudson River... Built the Frear Building-Source Troy Record Built the McCarthy Building downtown for his friend Mr. McCarthy Built the Caldwell Arms Apartments Built the Troy Hotel-last time I looked it was being occupied by disabled folks Built many houses on 9th St. and Peoples avenue Too many other constructions to list.....etc... Built major road systems and highways in Troy and Albany His son John E. was a Professor at RPI, won an award for building one of the five major bridges in NYC, worked on two more, went blind at the age of 35 His son Vincent after losing all the wealth went crazy working in Albany building prisons All his sons after the old man died ended up traveling through Central and South Amercia redoing Catholic Churches and yes I have received numeous phone calls that start off by saying..."I knew your greatgrandfather..." and I have had other people say their greatgrandfathers built the same buildings, go figure, out!

More Troy O'Briens (mine are from Albany and Watervliet) My great grandparents Michael and Rebecca Dolan O'Neil and their remaining children, my grandfather William and his sisters Mary and Sally, lived at 184 Fifth Avenue according to the 1900 Census. Their next door neighbors at 183 Fifth were the O'Briens who my mom remembered hearing about. My notes reflect that the census indicates that Mary O'Brien lived with her family at 183 Fifth Avenue in 1900. Mary was listed as head of the household and was born in Massachusetts. Her deceased husband's name was David. The other children that I have listed are Lawrence, John, Adelia (probably Amelia) and David. My notes record this last child as Daniel or David but its probably David after his father. This is the O'Brien family that my mother, who wasn't born until 1917, remembers hearing about. I don't know when Rebecca and her daughters left Fifth Avenue. I know that they were on 8th Street for a while and then followed my mother and her family to 106 Hoosick. David O'Brien -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Amy La Pietra Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:19 PM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] My O'Briens of Troy There was a family of O'Briens who lived next door to my in-laws on Fourth Street in Troy.I am not sure what the mother's name was but I can find out. She died in the 70's I think but her sons are around Troy. My in-laws live at 341 Fourth. Amy -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M. Alice Mangan Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:37 AM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] My O'Briens of Troy My great-great-grandparents were John O'Brien and Johanna Shea/Shay, both born in Ireland although exact location is unknown. One or both of them may have died in Ireland. I did locate a Mrs. Johanna O'Brien, housekeeper, who lived on Fourth Street in South Troy. She is buried in an unmarked grave in St. Joseph's Cemetery. She is buried there alone and she is the sole plot owner so I am unable to determine for certain if she is Johanna Shea O'Brien. Known children (all believed to be born in Ireland) were: Catherine, b. prior to 1850, married Jeremiah McNamara/Mack Johanna, b. 1850(?), married John Joseph Mangan (my great-grandparents) Dennis, b. 1852(?), married Catherine Clancy "Brother", (first name unknown), b. 18??. Wife's name unknown. 1 known son named John. ************************* This young John O'Brien (son of Brother) was most likely the fellow who served as pallbearer for his aunt, Catherine Clancy O'Brien, in 1923. The latest I find him in Troy is February, 1938 when he served as pallbearer for his first cousin, Elizabeth Mack Kelley. This particular John O'Brien was alluded to in a previous post...just wanted to clarify that he is in my O'Brien family. M. Alice Mangan Okatie, SC ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There was a family of O'Briens who lived next door to my in-laws on Fourth Street in Troy.I am not sure what the mother's name was but I can find out. She died in the 70's I think but her sons are around Troy. My in-laws live at 341 Fourth. Amy -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M. Alice Mangan Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:37 AM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] My O'Briens of Troy My great-great-grandparents were John O'Brien and Johanna Shea/Shay, both born in Ireland although exact location is unknown. One or both of them may have died in Ireland. I did locate a Mrs. Johanna O'Brien, housekeeper, who lived on Fourth Street in South Troy. She is buried in an unmarked grave in St. Joseph's Cemetery. She is buried there alone and she is the sole plot owner so I am unable to determine for certain if she is Johanna Shea O'Brien. Known children (all believed to be born in Ireland) were: Catherine, b. prior to 1850, married Jeremiah McNamara/Mack Johanna, b. 1850(?), married John Joseph Mangan (my great-grandparents) Dennis, b. 1852(?), married Catherine Clancy "Brother", (first name unknown), b. 18??. Wife's name unknown. 1 known son named John. ************************* This young John O'Brien (son of Brother) was most likely the fellow who served as pallbearer for his aunt, Catherine Clancy O'Brien, in 1923. The latest I find him in Troy is February, 1938 when he served as pallbearer for his first cousin, Elizabeth Mack Kelley. This particular John O'Brien was alluded to in a previous post...just wanted to clarify that he is in my O'Brien family. M. Alice Mangan Okatie, SC ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes. -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of VerCammen, Carol (DMH) Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:36 AM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] New Website - GriffithsValuationInformation Where did you find the info? Under Griffith's Valuation? Carol VerCammen -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Amy La Pietra Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:44 AM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] New Website - Griffiths ValuationInformation This website was great. Printed out pages of info about my great grandparents. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathleen Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 12:05 PM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] New Website - Griffiths Valuation Information A friend of mine in Ireland sent me a message telling me about this website - www.askaboutireland.ie . You can access the Griffiths Valuation data utilizing this website.. ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A posting on the TIGS list on July 7, 2008 discussed the idea of capturing family and individual names from the various memorials in the local churches and putting them in a data base on the TIGS website. With the announcement of numerous church closings, this proposed project has even more relevence. As the response to the posting was quite positive, it was decided at the July TIGS meeting that we would go ahead with this project. Our plan is to: !. Do as many churches, Catholic and non-Catholic, as we can get volunteers. 2. List names from all memorials; stained glass windows, plaques, pew names, statues, etc. 3. Give a little history of each church, when it was founded, when closed etc. 4. Have a picture of the church on the website and, if feasible, pictures of the famous Tiffany windows or other notable memorials. So if this project interests you and you would like to volunteer to help build the data base, please write me off list at: seamus@nycap.rr.com Also, if you have a particular church you would be interested in, please mention that in the email. Regards, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY

I guess that it just is not common in the investigations I have made. My family are Marys, Kathleens, Bridgets, Maureens, Patricias, and quite a few Ellens. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marianne Arnold" <mamearnold@jetbroadband.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] My O'Briens of Troy > Lynn: Johanna is a very common Irish name for a woman, it is the way > it appears often in the baptismal and marriage records. It is simply > the full form of Hannah. Marianne Arnold > On Jul 31, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Lynn wrote: > >> None of the names listed are familiar with the exception of >> Johanna. I have >> seen it somewhere and will try to jog my memory. It was not >> pertinent to my >> search but I thought it an uncommon name for an Irish woman. I >> think it >> might have been the Canada census of 1881. Not sure...I think it >> was in a >> domicile close to a Michael Shea. I will try to find the Cohoes >> book in a >> bookstore and check the names of the Shea women whose pictures >> appear in >> that book. Many Irish came to this country through Canada. You >> would know if >> the dates cited were accurate. I found the Canada census on the family >> search run site by the LDS church. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "M. Alice Mangan" <MalteseMom@sc.rr.com> >> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:36 AM >> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] My O'Briens of Troy >> >> >>> My great-great-grandparents were John O'Brien and Johanna Shea/ >>> Shay, both >>> born in Ireland although exact location is unknown. One or both of >>> them >>> may have died in Ireland. I did locate a Mrs. Johanna O'Brien, >>> housekeeper, who lived on Fourth Street in South Troy. She is >>> buried in an >>> unmarked grave in St. Joseph's Cemetery. She is buried there alone >>> and she >>> is the sole plot owner so I am unable to determine for certain if >>> she is >>> Johanna Shea O'Brien. >>> >>> Known children (all believed to be born in Ireland) were: >>> >>> Catherine, b. prior to 1850, married Jeremiah McNamara/Mack >>> >>> Johanna, b. 1850(?), married John Joseph Mangan (my great- >>> grandparents) >>> >>> Dennis, b. 1852(?), married Catherine Clancy >>> >>> "Brother", (first name unknown), b. 18??. Wife's name unknown. 1 >>> known son >>> named John. >>> >>> ************************* >>> >>> This young John O'Brien (son of Brother) was most likely the >>> fellow who >>> served as pallbearer for his aunt, Catherine Clancy O'Brien, in >>> 1923. The >>> latest I find him in Troy is February, 1938 when he served as >>> pallbearer >>> for his first cousin, Elizabeth Mack Kelley. This particular John >>> O'Brien >>> was alluded to in a previous post...just wanted to clarify that he >>> is in >>> my O'Brien family. >>> >>> M. Alice Mangan >>> Okatie, SC >>> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >>> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >>> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Book your next cruise vacation today! Click now to find the best >> prices. >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/ >> Ioyw6i3nL6YmtZqmahAcGLsfIWfFr2Ffqgc3lfVrUihU5DRr1bIFhj/ >> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH- >> GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ____________________________________________________________ Click here to save cash and find low rates on auto loans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ndyITb8mOLqEi3861PJTwlAx1WJyfguCGL6t01nHQhoqE0N/

Where did you find the info? Under Griffith's Valuation? Carol VerCammen -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Amy La Pietra Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:44 AM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] New Website - Griffiths ValuationInformation This website was great. Printed out pages of info about my great grandparents. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathleen Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 12:05 PM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] New Website - Griffiths Valuation Information A friend of mine in Ireland sent me a message telling me about this website - www.askaboutireland.ie . You can access the Griffiths Valuation data utilizing this website.. ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This website was great. Printed out pages of info about my great grandparents. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathleen Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 12:05 PM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] New Website - Griffiths Valuation Information A friend of mine in Ireland sent me a message telling me about this website - www.askaboutireland.ie . You can access the Griffiths Valuation data utilizing this website.. ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lynn: Johanna is a very common Irish name for a woman, it is the way it appears often in the baptismal and marriage records. It is simply the full form of Hannah. Marianne Arnold On Jul 31, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Lynn wrote: > None of the names listed are familiar with the exception of > Johanna. I have > seen it somewhere and will try to jog my memory. It was not > pertinent to my > search but I thought it an uncommon name for an Irish woman. I > think it > might have been the Canada census of 1881. Not sure...I think it > was in a > domicile close to a Michael Shea. I will try to find the Cohoes > book in a > bookstore and check the names of the Shea women whose pictures > appear in > that book. Many Irish came to this country through Canada. You > would know if > the dates cited were accurate. I found the Canada census on the family > search run site by the LDS church. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M. Alice Mangan" <MalteseMom@sc.rr.com> > To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:36 AM > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] My O'Briens of Troy > > >> My great-great-grandparents were John O'Brien and Johanna Shea/ >> Shay, both >> born in Ireland although exact location is unknown. One or both of >> them >> may have died in Ireland. I did locate a Mrs. Johanna O'Brien, >> housekeeper, who lived on Fourth Street in South Troy. She is >> buried in an >> unmarked grave in St. Joseph's Cemetery. She is buried there alone >> and she >> is the sole plot owner so I am unable to determine for certain if >> she is >> Johanna Shea O'Brien. >> >> Known children (all believed to be born in Ireland) were: >> >> Catherine, b. prior to 1850, married Jeremiah McNamara/Mack >> >> Johanna, b. 1850(?), married John Joseph Mangan (my great- >> grandparents) >> >> Dennis, b. 1852(?), married Catherine Clancy >> >> "Brother", (first name unknown), b. 18??. Wife's name unknown. 1 >> known son >> named John. >> >> ************************* >> >> This young John O'Brien (son of Brother) was most likely the >> fellow who >> served as pallbearer for his aunt, Catherine Clancy O'Brien, in >> 1923. The >> latest I find him in Troy is February, 1938 when he served as >> pallbearer >> for his first cousin, Elizabeth Mack Kelley. This particular John >> O'Brien >> was alluded to in a previous post...just wanted to clarify that he >> is in >> my O'Brien family. >> >> M. Alice Mangan >> Okatie, SC >> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Book your next cruise vacation today! Click now to find the best > prices. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/ > Ioyw6i3nL6YmtZqmahAcGLsfIWfFr2Ffqgc3lfVrUihU5DRr1bIFhj/ > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH- > GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The name Joanna occurs frequently in Roman Catholic parish records where Latin is used in place of Irish, or the Anglicized, given names. My own great grandmother, Jane Mary, is recorded as Joanna. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

If I am reading this right, your gr gr grandparents John and Johanna may be related to my Timothy O'Brien married to Catherine Costello. Perhaps Timothy and John were brothers??? If so you need to check out the Anacarty/Donohill area of Tipperary. My Tim and Catherine had their children around 1830's 1840's so Tim could have been the older son. They in Turn had Mary who married Phillip Ryan in 1859 and their children were also all born in Ireland during the 1860's and early 1870's. It is one of their children, Timothy Ryan who moved to Troy and was attended by a John O'Brien and William O'Brien as pall bearers at his death in 1918. I believe I may have more information I can give you on the area of Timothy O'Brien and Catherine Costello's marriage which could lead you to the Church and possible further information on your John O'Brien and Johanna Shea/Shay. I will check at home and get back to you. Is this son John buried in Troy? Do you have any birth information on him? I am about to send away for the death certificate on Timothy O'Brien in hopes it will contain further information. Thanks for your input, perhaps we can be of assistance to each other. Carol VerCammen -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M. Alice Mangan Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:37 AM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] My O'Briens of Troy My great-great-grandparents were John O'Brien and Johanna Shea/Shay, both born in Ireland although exact location is unknown. One or both of them may have died in Ireland. I did locate a Mrs. Johanna O'Brien, housekeeper, who lived on Fourth Street in South Troy. She is buried in an unmarked grave in St. Joseph's Cemetery. She is buried there alone and she is the sole plot owner so I am unable to determine for certain if she is Johanna Shea O'Brien. Known children (all believed to be born in Ireland) were: Catherine, b. prior to 1850, married Jeremiah McNamara/Mack Johanna, b. 1850(?), married John Joseph Mangan (my great-grandparents) Dennis, b. 1852(?), married Catherine Clancy "Brother", (first name unknown), b. 18??. Wife's name unknown. 1 known son named John. ************************* This young John O'Brien (son of Brother) was most likely the fellow who served as pallbearer for his aunt, Catherine Clancy O'Brien, in 1923. The latest I find him in Troy is February, 1938 when he served as pallbearer for his first cousin, Elizabeth Mack Kelley. This particular John O'Brien was alluded to in a previous post...just wanted to clarify that he is in my O'Brien family. M. Alice Mangan Okatie, SC ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

yet another o'brien connnection in troy? wow. wish we could find where they all connect. jeff "Let us remember, that 'if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' It is a very serious consideration, which should deeply impress our minds, that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers in the event." -Samuel Adams. In a message dated 7/31/2008 8:59:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, CWald36709@aol.com writes: Are any of these O'Briens related to "MY O'Briens"? 1. PHILLIP G.1 O'BRIEN was born 1893. He married MARY F. FITZPATRICK Abt. 1924, daughter of JOHN FITZPATRICK and ELLEN MAHAR. She was born Abt. 1900 in Troy, N.Y., and died 01 Jun 1935 in Troy, N.Y.. Children of PHILLIP O'BRIEN and MARY FITZPATRICK are: 2. i. JOAN2 O'BRIEN, b. 24 Oct 1924, Troy N. Y.; d. 10 May 1960, Troy N. Y.. 3. ii. PHILLIP O'BRIEN, b. 1928, Troy, New York; d. 09 Jan 1999, London, England. iii. ROBERT O'BRIEN. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Are any of these O'Briens related to "MY O'Briens"? 1. PHILLIP G.1 O'BRIEN was born 1893. He married MARY F. FITZPATRICK Abt. 1924, daughter of JOHN FITZPATRICK and ELLEN MAHAR. She was born Abt. 1900 in Troy, N.Y., and died 01 Jun 1935 in Troy, N.Y.. Children of PHILLIP O'BRIEN and MARY FITZPATRICK are: 2. i. JOAN2 O'BRIEN, b. 24 Oct 1924, Troy N. Y.; d. 10 May 1960, Troy N. Y.. 3. ii. PHILLIP O'BRIEN, b. 1928, Troy, New York; d. 09 Jan 1999, London, England. iii. ROBERT O'BRIEN. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

None of the names listed are familiar with the exception of Johanna. I have seen it somewhere and will try to jog my memory. It was not pertinent to my search but I thought it an uncommon name for an Irish woman. I think it might have been the Canada census of 1881. Not sure...I think it was in a domicile close to a Michael Shea. I will try to find the Cohoes book in a bookstore and check the names of the Shea women whose pictures appear in that book. Many Irish came to this country through Canada. You would know if the dates cited were accurate. I found the Canada census on the family search run site by the LDS church. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Alice Mangan" <MalteseMom@sc.rr.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:36 AM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] My O'Briens of Troy > My great-great-grandparents were John O'Brien and Johanna Shea/Shay, both > born in Ireland although exact location is unknown. One or both of them > may have died in Ireland. I did locate a Mrs. Johanna O'Brien, > housekeeper, who lived on Fourth Street in South Troy. She is buried in an > unmarked grave in St. Joseph's Cemetery. She is buried there alone and she > is the sole plot owner so I am unable to determine for certain if she is > Johanna Shea O'Brien. > > Known children (all believed to be born in Ireland) were: > > Catherine, b. prior to 1850, married Jeremiah McNamara/Mack > > Johanna, b. 1850(?), married John Joseph Mangan (my great-grandparents) > > Dennis, b. 1852(?), married Catherine Clancy > > "Brother", (first name unknown), b. 18??. Wife's name unknown. 1 known son > named John. > > ************************* > > This young John O'Brien (son of Brother) was most likely the fellow who > served as pallbearer for his aunt, Catherine Clancy O'Brien, in 1923. The > latest I find him in Troy is February, 1938 when he served as pallbearer > for his first cousin, Elizabeth Mack Kelley. This particular John O'Brien > was alluded to in a previous post...just wanted to clarify that he is in > my O'Brien family. > > M. Alice Mangan > Okatie, SC > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ____________________________________________________________ Book your next cruise vacation today! Click now to find the best prices. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nL6YmtZqmahAcGLsfIWfFr2Ffqgc3lfVrUihU5DRr1bIFhj/

Here's the only info I know about the O'Brien's in our family tree.  After Joseph James O'Brien's death, Mary Ann (his wife, my g.g.grandmother) married William Clancy (my g.g.grandfather).   ~ Pam   Descendants of Joseph James O'Brien   Generation No. 1 1. Joseph James2 O'Brien (Michael1) was born 1854 in Ireland, and died in Troy, NY. He married Mary Ann O'Brien Hogan, daughter of John Hogan and Elizabeth Sheehan. She was born December 21, 1864 in Troy, NY, and died May 16, 1941 in Troy, New York. Notes for Mary Ann O'Brien Hogan: 1917 listed as widow at 65 Ingalls Avenue 1908 listed at 14 Orr Street The funeral of Mrs. Mary Ann Clancy, was conducted from the residence (61 Ingalls Avenue) this morning and later from St. Patricks Church where Rev. Leo P. Brady celebrated a requiem high mass. Walter B. Chippendale presided at the organ. James A. Murray and Mrs. Mary Murray Ryan rendered "Miserere" at the processional and "Hark Hark my Soul" at the conclusion of the mass. Mr. Murray sang "O Salvtaris" at the offertory and Mrs. Ryan rendered "on the Reserrection Morn" at the ressional. Bearers, all relatives, were Richard Sheehan, James Dwyer, John Powers, Peter Masterson, George Augustal and Joseph Cassidy. Interment was in the family plot in St. Peters Cemetery where Rev. Father Brady officiated. DATED: Monday, May 19, 1941 Buried in Lot #2171 (Edward Clancy) DEATH CERTIFICATE: AGE 76, 4MO, 25 DAY; dob 12/21/1864; DOD: MAY 16, 1941' PARENTS: JOHN HOGAN (ireland) ELIZABETH SHEEHAN (troy) informant: Edward clancy, 61 Ingalls Ave More About Mary Ann O'Brien Hogan: Burial: May 19, 1941, St. Peter's Cemetery, Troy, NY - lot 2171 Cause of Death: Acute Cardiac Failure Medical Information: due to hypertension/chronic myocarditis Children of Joseph O'Brien and Mary Hogan are: 2 i. Elizabeth3 O'Brien, born May 12, 1886 in Troy, NY. More About Elizabeth O'Brien: Baptism: May 16, 1886, St. Patrick's Church, Troy, NY Baptism Sponsors: John Delany & ? O'Brien 3 ii. Joseph Michael O'Brien, born March 16, 1884 in Troy, NY. More About Joseph Michael O'Brien: Baptism: March 25, 1884, St. Patrick's Church, Troy, NY 4 iii. Mary Ellen O'Brien, born February 19, 1882 in Troy, NY. More About Mary Ellen O'Brien: Baptism: February 26, 1882, St. Patrick's Church, Troy, NY Baptism Sponsors: Joseph Bradt & Mary Anne O'Brien