Friday June 13, 2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoSaturday June 13 ,, 1908 “A Troy man, Thomas Foley,a house painter, who married the former Mrs. Emma Quest nine years ago and with whom he has 2 children in addition to her Quest children, gravely wounds her and kills himself.He was living in a Hutton St boarding house since their estrangement.She lived at 920 Fifth Avenue .Despite a restraining order issued, Foley had made several appearances at the house threatening to kill his wife and/or Superintendent Nathaniel Walker of the Mohawke –Hudson Humane Society who had testified against him in a child support trial, where he was ordered to pay 5$ a week to his family. He appears at the house while his wife is out on an errand and asks his step daughter, Emma, to get his wife back to the house for her child support money. When Mrs Foley returns he asks her to accompany him to the stone bridge on Hollow Road,she refuses and he pulls a revolver and shoots his wife in the head and then in the finger as she raises her hand.His stepdaughter, Emma Quest runs for her bedroom as he turns the gun toward her, the shot misses as she crashes thru her bedroom window and lands in the back yard.She rushes around the front and gets some neighbors, when they enter the house they find Thomas on the floor ,he having shot himself in the temple. The neighbors speak very highly of Mrs Foley to the Record reporter, and the hospital statement states that she cannot recover. Photo of the day Troy Record Wednesday June 13, 2008 1945 photo of Navy Seaman Joseph Donahue **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Do any of the names look familiar to any of you? The first bride was my Grandfather Thomas Kinney's sister I believe the second bride may have been also as a sister alice is mentioned in his Obit in Ohio. Saint Patrick, Troy, NY Marriages: KINNEY, Margaret mar. Daniel CULLEN on 16 May 1904. Brides parents John& Sabina SMITH. Grooms parents THomas & Margaret CONWAY. Witnesses: William A SULLIVAN & Alice KINNEY. Groom born in Ireland, Bride born inOhio KINNEY, Elizabeth mar. WIlliam KELLEY on 09 Apr 1917. Bride from Troy,groom from Watervliet. Brides parents Patrick & Margaret GRIFFIN. Grooms parents Sylvester & Catherine PHIDO. Witnesses: Francis KELLY &Margaret KINNEY _________________________________________________________________ Reveal your inner athlete and share it with friends on Windows Live. http://revealyourinnerathlete.windowslive.com?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WLYIA_whichathlete_us

Hi Everyone, I am planning on going to NARA on Saturday 9/6/08. It is about 1 hour from where I live (Wynatskill) and will probably spend the day (Open 9am-4pm). If anyone is interested in coming with me, please email me off list. I have room for 2 more people. BTW, Nara in Pittsfield is running some workshops on 8/16/08. Check it @ http://www.archives.gov/northeast/pittsfield/public/workshops.html Lizette

Thursday June 12 ,2008Troy Record Article 100years ago Friday June12 ,, 1908 “Following the Legislatures approval of the Agnew –Hart bills,the future of horse racing is in question. Woodlawn Park, Island Park are expected to be idle this summer while the Troy Speedway Association is deliberating whether to scrap its summer trotting meet at Rensselaer Park. The association used to sell an exclusive pool selling franchise at the rate of $150.00 per race($2000.00 in todays money).The organizers believe without the sale of these they would not be able to meet their expenses. One of the jurors in the Carrington trial , Erza P.Irish has killed himself. The Record writer notes its probably because his 15,000 peach tree farm bore little or no fruit the last 3 years, which preyed on his mind. " Photo of the day Troy Record Wednesday June 12, 2008 1945 photo of Army Sergeant Edward ‘Bud’ Donahue **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Carol, I only visited the library once many years ago, because I live a distance from it. However if you Google New York State Library, Albany, New York, and get the home page of the library, you will find a list of their extensive collection. Tuxedo Park is in Rockland County New York, and I know that the library in New City, NY has a very good genealogy section. I met someone from the county at a conference last year and I think they had a lot of material printed up from their resources. Perhaps you might give the library a call and find out .You could also contact the clerk of Tuxedo Park. Sorry I am not more help. Pat

got bogged down here at the house...have people doing lots of work,and never sent you the bio that morning...will do so this morning....aren't the black eyed susans amazing???also greatly enjoyed the article on the deflating of the Celtic Tiger.....I guess our economic problems are spreading. Mimi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lizette Strait" <lstrait94@earthlink.net> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Slightly OT - Article in the Irish Voice > Hi everyone, > > Just read an interesting article in the Irish Voice about the Irish economy boom. Very interesting reading. > > > http://www.irishabroad.com/news/irish-voice/Articles/The-Price-of-the-Irish-Boom-300808.aspx > > Thought you may find the article as interesting as I did. It gives a good insight on the impact of the Celtic Tiger on Ireland. > > L. > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was wondering if you could give me more information on this New York State Library. Is this someplace you can write or go on line to and request a search for records for a fee? I have been searching for my ggrandparents wedding certificate for over 40 years and was just informed they married in the Tuxedo Park, NY area around 1895. I would love to get this info. Do you have any experience with the Library and what they offer? Carol VerCammen -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Beaumont Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:43 PM To: NY-Troy-Irish-Gensoc-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Look up in the New York State Library If anyone is going to the New York State Library, would you please find out the names on the marriage certificate #15632, Aug.26, 1896 for Waverly, Tioga County? I am hoping it is the marriage certificate of my grandparents, Edward D. Hogan, and Blanche Polvent. Edward lived in Waterford and worked in Troy. Blanche lived in Cohoes and did collar work for a Troy company. I have looked for many years in all the usual places for their marriage record, to no avail. In cleaning out my records, I found a note written on a pink notice with New York State Library letterhead. This note contained my grandparents' names in my handwriting, and the above information in a different handwriting. I know I visited Albany on a research trip many years ago and was helped by a volunteer genealogist in the Library. Perhaps she is the one who got this information for me. It is so long ago that I cannot remember more. However I cannot fathom why I didn't follow this up.-except perhaps at the time I just ruled this out as a possibility because it was out of the immediate vicinity of where I knew the couple lived. I'm older and wiser now and know they could have easily gone to another county for their wedding for a variety of reasons. Thank you in advance for your trouble. Pat Beaumont ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My father's cousin who lived in Cohoes was called "Harp" Ryan and I remember when he had an "eatery" in Cohoes where the parking lot of the Cohoes commons is located. If this Ryan rings a bell I do have more information on him. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Joyce052@aol.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Catherine RYAN > In the 1878 Directory I have, the West Troy(Watervliet)& Cohoes part > contains a lot of Ryans. > > 1 Catherine Ryan , widow,house 64 1/3 Erie > 4 Patrick Ryans, laborer,h ,17 Genesee > " , laborer h 99 Ohio > ,machinist h 64 Union Street > , switchman, h. Albany Avenue,n.West Troy > bridge,G.I. > 1 Mrs Patrick , H 94 Burlington > No Henry listed > > In the Lansingburgh part there are 12 more Patricks and 5 Catherines all > widows > In Cohoes there is 1 Catherine, 1 Henry and 7 Patricks > > Hope this helps. > > > In a message dated 8/5/2008 1:08:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > lantana@npgcable.com writes: > > Rebecca Rector; regarding your inquiry about Powell/Ryan- > you may already have this-- > On the 1920 census Catherine and Henry RYAN in Watervliet--Catherine is > 60 yrs. old > which would give her birth year 1860-1861. > > There is a Catherine RYAN in Watervliet, born in NY on the 1880 census; > age 19 born abt 1861 > father Patrick and mother Mary, both born in Ireland. > I can copy and send this census image to you if you like. > Lois in AZ > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your > budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 > ) > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ____________________________________________________________ Click here for free information on nursing degrees, up to $150/hour http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nEnkodCbA37X6UCHKreOnHvWv9UsygBnW55TEK92ZOrDhfn/

sorry for the error, that should read Catherine and Henry POWELL on the 1920, of course. Lois

Tuesday June 10-11,2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoWednesday June 10-11 , 1908 “Governor Charles Evans Hughes has called a special session of the legislature to reconsider 2 bills,collectively known as Agnew- Hart . The bills are meant to strengthen the states constitutional ban on gambling, which went into effect in 1894. Legislature passed in 1895 virtually made racetrack gambling legal. An original supporter of Agnew –Hart, Sen Otto G. Foelkner has been incapacitated with an appendectomy, but says he will make it to Albany and leaves his father-in –laws house in Dutchess County to travel to Union RR Station in Albany by 9:50 PM and is met by a crowd of well wishers.He is quickly placed in an invalids chair . His doctor reports he’s had a mild collapse but will be there to vote on the 11th.The state then approves the bill to ban gambling by a margin of 1 vote. Area senator Frank M Boyce,A Democrat representing Rensselaer Count, votes against the measure. Sen Grady, Democratic minority leader , Sen Owen Cassidy, Republican from Schulyer Co, also weigh in. The Record editorial is for it also.” Photo of the day Troy Record Wednesday June 11, 2008 1945 photo of Army Corporal John Donahue **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

In the 1878 Directory I have, the West Troy(Watervliet)& Cohoes part contains a lot of Ryans. 1 Catherine Ryan , widow,house 64 1/3 Erie 4 Patrick Ryans, laborer,h ,17 Genesee " , laborer h 99 Ohio ,machinist h 64 Union Street , switchman, h. Albany Avenue,n.West Troy bridge,G.I. 1 Mrs Patrick , H 94 Burlington No Henry listed In the Lansingburgh part there are 12 more Patricks and 5 Catherines all widows In Cohoes there is 1 Catherine, 1 Henry and 7 Patricks Hope this helps. In a message dated 8/5/2008 1:08:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lantana@npgcable.com writes: Rebecca Rector; regarding your inquiry about Powell/Ryan- you may already have this-- On the 1920 census Catherine and Henry RYAN in Watervliet--Catherine is 60 yrs. old which would give her birth year 1860-1861. There is a Catherine RYAN in Watervliet, born in NY on the 1880 census; age 19 born abt 1861 father Patrick and mother Mary, both born in Ireland. I can copy and send this census image to you if you like. Lois in AZ ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

If anyone is going to the New York State Library, would you please find out the names on the marriage certificate #15632, Aug.26, 1896 for Waverly, Tioga County? I am hoping it is the marriage certificate of my grandparents, Edward D. Hogan, and Blanche Polvent. Edward lived in Waterford and worked in Troy. Blanche lived in Cohoes and did collar work for a Troy company. I have looked for many years in all the usual places for their marriage record, to no avail. In cleaning out my records, I found a note written on a pink notice with New York State Library letterhead. This note contained my grandparents' names in my handwriting, and the above information in a different handwriting. I know I visited Albany on a research trip many years ago and was helped by a volunteer genealogist in the Library. Perhaps she is the one who got this information for me. It is so long ago that I cannot remember more. However I cannot fathom why I didn't follow this up.-except perhaps at the time I just ruled this out as a possibility because it was out of the immediate vicinity of where I knew the couple lived. I'm older and wiser now and know they could have easily gone to another county for their wedding for a variety of reasons. Thank you in advance for your trouble. Pat Beaumont

My GGgrandmother Johanna Ryan (daughter of James Ryan/ Bridget Duett) lived in West Troy and was born in Adare Parish Limerick Dec 1846. When I searched the Missing Friends advertisements from the Boston Pilot for the keyword "Adare" I saw a Patrick Ryan from Adare living in West Troy in 1863 looking for his nephew Pat Ryan. -thoughht I would share with regards to the below Pat Ryan- but that's a tough name to sort out. -Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Lois<mailto:lantana@npgcable.com> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com<mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:13 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Catherine RYAN Rebecca Rector; regarding your inquiry about Powell/Ryan- you may already have this-- On the 1920 census Catherine and Henry RYAN in Watervliet--Catherine is 60 yrs. old which would give her birth year 1860-1861. There is a Catherine RYAN in Watervliet, born in NY on the 1880 census; age 19 born abt 1861 father Patrick and mother Mary, both born in Ireland. I can copy and send this census image to you if you like. Lois in AZ ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I second that THANK YOU!! > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 07:12:36 -0700> From: lantana@npgcable.com> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Thank You TIGS> > A good time to say-for those of us who live too far away to attend the > meetings appreciate all the hours of hard work> by the officers and others who make TIGS possible. Of all the websites > I visit there are none with the heart and muscle> of TIGS. You can all be very proud of yourselves for the service to our > kindred dead.> Lois in AZ> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List===> Did you pay your 2008 Dues?> Troy Irish Genealogy Society> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> > at times we have to act in the best interest of the group. Yes, but you have to keep within the rules of the Charter. Why not post the proposal to the list and have dues paying members email privately to the Treasurer (who has a list of the due paying members) their vote. That would adhere to the intention of the Charter. Your way is not in compliance with the Charter and I think if we want to be a legitimate genealogy group, we need to stay within our Charter. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Hi everyone, Just read an interesting article in the Irish Voice about the Irish economy boom. Very interesting reading. http://www.irishabroad.com/news/irish-voice/Articles/The-Price-of-the-Irish-Boom-300808.aspx Thought you may find the article as interesting as I did. It gives a good insight on the impact of the Celtic Tiger on Ireland. L.

Rebecca Rector; regarding your inquiry about Powell/Ryan- you may already have this-- On the 1920 census Catherine and Henry RYAN in Watervliet--Catherine is 60 yrs. old which would give her birth year 1860-1861. There is a Catherine RYAN in Watervliet, born in NY on the 1880 census; age 19 born abt 1861 father Patrick and mother Mary, both born in Ireland. I can copy and send this census image to you if you like. Lois in AZ

Sunday June 8 008TroyRecord Article 100years ago Monday June8,1908 “Teddy Purcell is the newest addition to the Trojans, Troy’s baseball team. Gene Goode leads the Troy offense. Emma Willard’s graduating class has its ‘Theme day’ today at Gurley Hall. Alice Edith Aird leads off with a discussion of “our National Songs” and concludes there is no one song accepted universally as our national song. She is followed by Marian Elizabeth McLaughlin on "Lessons of Silas Mariner”. Catharine Leeds does “characteristics of Egyptian Architecture”and Ida Klepetko on “Spring Flowers”. Jeanette Woodruff Badler performs a violin solo. Sarah Frances Rose does “Lamb’s Favorite Authors”,Eoline Spearman discusses “ evidence of Habitation on Mars” Gladys Marguerite Crockett on "Wordsworth Walking Tours ",Florence Fern Badger closes the exercises with a discussion of ‘The Quest of the Holy Grail”. Saturday June 7, 2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoSunday June 7,, 1908 “Graduating students of the Emma Willard School fill Second Street Presbyterian Church today to hear Rev A.C. Sewall talk on ‘The pursuit of the Ideal” which is the belief in human progress toward ultimate perfection as anticipated by the ‘Great Idealist’- Jesus of Nazareth.” PS if you click on the below link it will take you to the Troy Record newspaper website. From there at the top click on Opinions then click on This Day in the Record and it will give you about a current weeks worth of This day in History. _http://www.troyrecord.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/BigDaily_ (http://www.troyrecord.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/BigDaily) ?_ **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Just a reminder that the names of some of the streets were changed in the late 1890's to prepare the City of Troy for the Annexation of Lansingburgh. These name changes particularly affected what was then North Troy (includes the 10th & 13th Wards). A resident of North Troy may have stayed in the same house while the name & number of the street changed. It is helpful to keep this in mind when checking addresses in the Troy City Directories. North Second Street became Fifth Avenue. North Third Street became Sixth Avenue. North Fourth Street became Seventh Avenue. (North First Street actually still exists but is an overgrown alleyway & difficult to find). There were several secondary streets whose names were changed as well at that time. M. Alice Mangan

Richard, here are some more data re my O'Brien family: 1. My paternal great grandparents were James O'Brien and Mary O'Brien, probably born in Cork or Kilkenny around the 1810s or 1820s. 2. They had 11 daughters and one son (John O'Brien) as follows: Catherine O'Brien, born May 6, 1846, married Thomas Duffy. Thomas was my grandfather. My father was Thomas Francis Duffy, born in Troy on Nov. 30, 1870. Margaret A. O'Brien, born Nov. 1847, married Patrick O'Mara Mary O'Brien, born Mar., 1849, married Henry Patterson/Pattison Alice O'Brien, born about 1850, married John Whelan Anastasia O'Brien, born Apr. 23, 1851, married John J. McKeough Ellen O'Brien, born about 1852, married John Power They remained in Tramore, County Waterford. Her siblings all came to the Troy area. John O'Brien, born Feb., 1853, married Maggie Keeley/Kieley ??? O'Brien, born between 1854 and 1857 Anne O'Brien, born Mar., 1858 and died soon after birth Anna O'Brien, born Jul. 16, 1860, married John Mason and then John Houlihan after Mason's death Johanna O'Brien, born Nov. 18, 1863, marital status unknown Josephine O'Brien, born Apr., 1866, married James McGuire 3. Most of the O'Brien children of James and Mary O'Brien were born in the far south of County Kilkenny along the River Suir in the Roman Catholic Parish of Slieverue across the River Suir from Waterford City. But most of them later lived in the area around Tramore in County Waterford before migrating to America. The Baptismal info on some of them follow with their sponsors' names, which may turn on some lights for you: --- Mary O'Brien, Baptized on March 2, 1847 and sponsored by Michael Wall and Ellen Costelloe. --- Anastasia O'Brien, Baptized on April 23, 1851 and sponsored by Thomas Corcoran and Mary Walsh. --- John O'Brien, Baptized on Feb. 28, 1853 and sponsored by John Baccus and Bridget Shea. --- Anne O'Brien, Baptized on Mar. 29, 1858 and sponsored by Robert Murphy and Mary Hussey. She died soon after birth. --- Anna O'Brien, Baptized on July 17, 1860 and sponsored by Johanna Murphy and John Power. --- Johanna O'Brien, Baptized on Nov. 20, 1863 and sponsored by James Hayden and Bridget Higgins. Enjoy your search! And let m know if you need more of mine. Gerry Duffy