Try Barbara Buys book on NY cemeteries. She really covered the map and it may be in there. Should be in the library. If not google her. Marianne Arnold On Aug 16, 2008, at 7:21 AM, French_Teacher wrote: > Hello All, > > I was in town visiting some relatives last weekend and found out > that they have an old abandoned cemetery behind their house in the > 300 block of Speigletown road, (Speigletown) North Troy. Is there > a listing somewhere that shows the names and locations of old > cemeteries? This was probably a family site with a few dozen > stones. The families were well-to-do since the stones and > monuments are quite large and ornate. I couldn't spend a lot of > time there because a thunderstorm was passing. > > Thanks. > > John > > > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH- > GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tuesday June 24 ,2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoWednesday June 24 , 1908 “ Grover Cleveland, the 22nd and 24th , in 1884 and 1892,president of the US dies this morning, of heart failure .exacerbated by the ‘terrible heat’ in his hometown of Princeton , New Jersey. He is the only Democrat to serve as president since the Civil War, the only president to serve non consecutive terms. He started his career as assistant DA in Erie County1863 , as sheriff in 1870, as mayor of Buffalo,governor of New York and finally presidential candidate in 1884. He overcame a sex scandal ( he fathered a child out of wedlock)to win that year.He lost to Benjamin Harrison in 1888 and returned to power in 1892. Photo of the day Troy Record Tuesday June 24, 2008 1945 photo of Paul LaJeunesse, Mike Nahumyk, Kathleen Yando Gallagher and Faith Lajeunesse Monday June 23 ,2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoTuesday June 23 ,1908 “Republican vice president nominee James S.Sherman is seriously ill with a fever of 102.8, falling ill in Cleveland on his way home from the convention in Chicago. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 )

Hello All,   I was in town visiting some relatives last weekend and found out that they have an old abandoned cemetery behind their house in the 300 block of Speigletown road, (Speigletown) North Troy.  Is there a listing somewhere that shows the names and locations of old cemeteries?  This was probably a family site with a few dozen stones.  The families were well-to-do since the stones and monuments are quite large and ornate.  I couldn't spend a lot of time there because a thunderstorm was passing.   Thanks.   John  

I didn't have any trouble with the links on Barbara's page. They were very interesting. Amy -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Rector Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 12:25 PM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Barbara Jeffries: alive and well Barbara Jeffries is very much alive, according to the Schenectady Co. Hist. Society. Thank you Nancy Curren for suggesting I contact them. I pasted in their response below. I did find Barbara's archived web page, but it's only the home page that is archived - none of the links to the valuable data are active. Rebecca, Barbara is alive and well. She volunteers in the library of the Historical Society and we see her almost daily. I know she is planning on attending the meeting of Heritage Hunters in the library this coming Saturday morning, August 16th. I'll ask her about her website. Katherine ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just a reminder, that our monthly meeting for TIGHS is scheduled for this coming Thursday, August 21st at six o'clock at the Red Front in Troy. Thus far,the people who have said that they are attending are Bill McMahon,Lizette,Jean K.,Kris W.,Jan S.,Kay B.,Kris C., and Donna. I will not be attending since our daughter is having twins on Tuesday,August 19th . If you forgot to sign up, you may email me up until Sunday, August 17th. If you decide after that, you may want to contact Kris C.. Mimi

Barbara Jeffries is very much alive, according to the Schenectady Co. Hist. Society. Thank you Nancy Curren for suggesting I contact them. I pasted in their response below. I did find Barbara's archived web page, but it's only the home page that is archived - none of the links to the valuable data are active. Rebecca, Barbara is alive and well. She volunteers in the library of the Historical Society and we see her almost daily. I know she is planning on attending the meeting of Heritage Hunters in the library this coming Saturday morning, August 16th. I’ll ask her about her website. Katherine

Well that is good news, especially for Barbara and her family. Don't even want to know how we managed to get the info wrong. A.E Fadden “Beware the people who moralize about great issues; moralizing is easier than facing hard facts.” - John Corry --- On Fri, 8/15/08, Rebecca Rector <rrector1@nycap.rr.com> wrote: From: Rebecca Rector <rrector1@nycap.rr.com> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Barbara Jeffries: alive and well To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 11:25 AM Barbara Jeffries is very much alive, according to the Schenectady Co. Hist. Society. Thank you Nancy Curren for suggesting I contact them. I pasted in their response below. I did find Barbara's archived web page, but it's only the home page that is archived - none of the links to the valuable data are active. Rebecca, Barbara is alive and well. She volunteers in the library of the Historical Society and we see her almost daily. I know she is planning on attending the meeting of Heritage Hunters in the library this coming Saturday morning, August 16th. I’ll ask her about her website. Katherine ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh! Thank you Lois for the link! The NY Library does have New York Herald from 1840-1920. I'll send them an email and ask how to obtain a copy. Thank you again!! Donna On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Lois <lantana@npgcable.com> wrote: > Donna; > maybe try the New York Library newspaper holdings-- > http://srv36.nysed.gov/nysnp/ > > > Donna Wilson wrote: > > >Dear Friends, > >Today, I spent 4 hours in the Denver Genealogy Dept. and found a very > >interesting death record of my great-Aunt x 4. It was from the > >book: Marriages and Deaths in the New York Herald, 1856-1862. It read: > >Eliza Jane L. Browne; died 24 Mar 1862. A note in the family Bible reads > >the death being 21 Mar 1862, "Hidden's Corner, N." > > > >The Denver Library doesn't have micro-films of the New York Herald. Could > >anyone find a copy of her obituary? Her dad who lived in Brooklyn at the > >time, probably placed the obit. His name was Cooper Browne. > > > >If anyone could make a copy of this, I and my distant cousin would be > >extremely grateful. Her father's handwritten record of her death listed > it > >as being in Hidden's Corner, N. My cousin and I thought this might mean > New > >Jersey as well as New York. > > > >She had married to Richard Lightbown (various spellings) and had born him > 2 > >sons but at the time of her death is not with him. > > > >Thank you so much, > >Donna from Elizabeth, CO > >===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > >Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > >Troy Irish Genealogy Society > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Photo of the day Troy Record Sunday June 21, 2008 1925 photo of 1949 Glee Club at Keveny Memorial Academy in Cohoes Sunday June 22 008TroyRecord Article 100years ago Monday June 22,1908 “ Barnum & Bailey Circus comes to Troy and includes the flying sisters La Rague,375 World famous artists,and a thousand animal wonders for fifty cents,under 12=.25c” Photo of the day Troy Record Sunday June 21, 2008 1925 photo of Joe and Jerry Dinardo on their wedding day taken in Watervliet PS if you click on the below link it will take you to the Troy Record newspaper website. From there at the top click on Opinions then click on This Day in the Record and it will give you about a current weeks worth of This day in History. _http://www.troyrecord.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/BigDaily_ (http://www.troyrecord.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/BigDaily) ?_ **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 )

Donna; maybe try the New York Library newspaper holdings-- http://srv36.nysed.gov/nysnp/ Donna Wilson wrote: >Dear Friends, >Today, I spent 4 hours in the Denver Genealogy Dept. and found a very >interesting death record of my great-Aunt x 4. It was from the >book: Marriages and Deaths in the New York Herald, 1856-1862. It read: >Eliza Jane L. Browne; died 24 Mar 1862. A note in the family Bible reads >the death being 21 Mar 1862, "Hidden's Corner, N." > >The Denver Library doesn't have micro-films of the New York Herald. Could >anyone find a copy of her obituary? Her dad who lived in Brooklyn at the >time, probably placed the obit. His name was Cooper Browne. > >If anyone could make a copy of this, I and my distant cousin would be >extremely grateful. Her father's handwritten record of her death listed it >as being in Hidden's Corner, N. My cousin and I thought this might mean New >Jersey as well as New York. > >She had married to Richard Lightbown (various spellings) and had born him 2 >sons but at the time of her death is not with him. > >Thank you so much, >Donna from Elizabeth, CO >===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >Troy Irish Genealogy Society >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

For those of you who remember Congress Street before it was re-routed, I have added two photos of the hill section of Congress Street from 1926 to the TIGS Website. Enjoy! http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/ Jeanne Jeanne M. Keefe Visual Resources Librarian Architecture Library Greene Building, Rm 306 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 110 8th Street, Troy, NY 12180 Tel: 518-276-2727 Fax: 518-276-6753 E-mail: keefej@rpi.edu

Dear Friends, Today, I spent 4 hours in the Denver Genealogy Dept. and found a very interesting death record of my great-Aunt x 4. It was from the book: Marriages and Deaths in the New York Herald, 1856-1862. It read: Eliza Jane L. Browne; died 24 Mar 1862. A note in the family Bible reads the death being 21 Mar 1862, "Hidden's Corner, N." The Denver Library doesn't have micro-films of the New York Herald. Could anyone find a copy of her obituary? Her dad who lived in Brooklyn at the time, probably placed the obit. His name was Cooper Browne. If anyone could make a copy of this, I and my distant cousin would be extremely grateful. Her father's handwritten record of her death listed it as being in Hidden's Corner, N. My cousin and I thought this might mean New Jersey as well as New York. She had married to Richard Lightbown (various spellings) and had born him 2 sons but at the time of her death is not with him. Thank you so much, Donna from Elizabeth, CO

I thought I heard that she had passed on?? Kristin -----Original Message----- From: Rebecca Rector <rrector1@nycap.rr.com> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:44 pm Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Barbara Jeffries Does anyone know how to contact Barbara Jeffries? She used to have a great website where many church records were transcribed. The website has been down for several years now, but the last I heard, Barbara was still around, somewhere! She is not listed in the Capital Area phone book (not by her name or initial). The list of church records can still be found at the www.Olivetreegenealogy.com website, but every link is broken. It was such a valuable service, I just wish there was some way to contact her... Suggestions? Thanks, Rebecca ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.familyhistory101.com/map_census.html I thought these maps were of interest and noticed according to this site, Rensselaer County was enumerated with Albany county in 1790, is that correct? Select New York census maps and click on the 1790 census year just down from the New York map and only about 15 counties are shown. For 1800 Rensselaer appears to be enumerated. Lois in AZ

I found this in my archives it might help A.E Fadden “Beware the people who moralize about great issues; moralizing is easier than facing hard facts.” - John Corry --- On Thu, 1/18/07, Jeanne Keefe <keefej@rpi.edu> wrote: From: Jeanne Keefe <keefej@rpi.edu> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Fw: [NYRENSSE] Barbara Jeffries's website Is Here To: NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, January 18, 2007, 8:34 PM FYI Jeanne ==============Original message text=============== From: paperweb@capital.net Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:43:56 EST Subject: [NYRENSSE] Barbara Jeffries's website Is Here I found this archive of websites including Barbara's. This organization archives ALL websites (billions of pages.) If you have a website you can find yours here also. However they are not always up to date or complete. Another possibility for those of you worried about losing your website is to put it on a CD. This is something that can be done. If you keep your CD current you can give it to some person or repository to preserve all your hard work. Hope this helps. I am not an active poster here but am a native of Troy and worked in Historic House Museums for many years. 9 years at Schuyler Manison and 4 years as Director of Education at Mills Mansiion in Staatsburgh, NY. My main activities now revolve around web design. I know many of you will be relieved to see this information Of Barbara Jeffries still residing on the web. Go here for Barbara's archived website (The Wayback Machine.) http://web.archive.org/web/20050210100011/members.tripod.com/JeffriesB/ Bob Falk Quoting SusiCP@aol.com: > I wonder how, or what arrangements people make with their web sites in case > of passing? I have a large website for another region and I do not > want it to > dissappear on my passing so very much work. > > Barbara had a tremendous amount of data that should have been copied and kept > by someone for future genealogists. Though at times there were errors we > are all susceptiable to them and I appreciated her personal > assistant some ten > years ago to find kin of mine. > > Does others have web sites that need retained or saved? Is there not > something we can do to salvage them.? > > Susi Jones Pentico > San Diego > http://p2.hostingprod.com/@ourfamilyhistories.com/index.html> SusiCP@aol.com > Our Family Histories > > WE also have a sister site. > ====NY-RENSSE Mailing List==== > Check out the mailing list's website at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/> Add/check you Rensselaer County surnames on the surname registry at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrenss2/> (under Links) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYRENSSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ====NY-RENSSE Mailing List==== Check out the mailing list's website at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYRensse/Add/check you Rensselaer County surnames on the surname registry at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrenss2/(under Links) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYRENSSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===========End of original message text=========== Jeanne M. Keefe Visual Resoures Librarian Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Architecture Library 100 8th Street, Greene 326 Troy,, NY 12180 tel: 518-276-2727 email: keefej@rpi.edu ==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== >Troy Irish Genealogy Society website >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I remember hearing that Barbara had passed on as well. There was some question at the time about how long her valuable information would remain available A.E Fadden “Beware the people who moralize about great issues; moralizing is easier than facing hard facts.” - John Corry --- On Wed, 8/13/08, kris6851@aol.com <kris6851@aol.com> wrote: From: kris6851@aol.com <kris6851@aol.com> Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Barbara Jeffries To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 1:12 PM I thought I heard that she had passed on?? Kristin -----Original Message----- From: Rebecca Rector <rrector1@nycap.rr.com> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:44 pm Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Barbara Jeffries Does anyone know how to contact Barbara Jeffries? She used to have a great website where many church records were transcribed. The website has been down for several years now, but the last I heard, Barbara was still around, somewhere! She is not listed in the Capital Area phone book (not by her name or initial). The list of church records can still be found at the www.Olivetreegenealogy.com website, but every link is broken. It was such a valuable service, I just wish there was some way to contact her... Suggestions? Thanks, Rebecca ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know how to contact Barbara Jeffries? She used to have a great website where many church records were transcribed. The website has been down for several years now, but the last I heard, Barbara was still around, somewhere! She is not listed in the Capital Area phone book (not by her name or initial). The list of church records can still be found at the www.Olivetreegenealogy.com website, but every link is broken. It was such a valuable service, I just wish there was some way to contact her... Suggestions? Thanks, Rebecca

Saturday June 21, 2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoSunday June 21 ,, 1908 “ David Meehan and Paul Mercer, the proprieters of Fairyland, a theater located in Rensselaer Park have been arrested for exhibiting moving pictures in defiance of the Christian Sabbath.They received a warning yet opened anyway. Captain Rowe of the fourth precint shuts them down.Some observers believe they meant to be arrested I n order to challenge the law. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Fascinating,yet tragic story. The information within the article about the weather,and boating in this area in those days fascinated me. Since my grandmother also worked for those shirt factories around the very same time, I was much taken with this article. Thanks for sharing. Mimi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn" <cohoes2@juno.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:15 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] News article dated April 24, 1913 > If any of these names are familiar or if anyone wants more information please let me know. I am interested to know if any of the bodies were recovered. I did contact the Troy Library and they could not find an obituary for my great aunt. The article was accompanied with a picture of my aunt and one of the other women who drowned. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Left Behind > To: Lynn > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:45 AM > Subject: Fw: Please send this back to me. > > > From: Lynn > To: Kilmelkin@yahoo.com > Cc: Ravens and Magpies -- Oh my > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:50 AM > Subject: Please send this back to me. > > > My mother really hated her name.I asked her once why her mother had named her Gertrude and she told me that her father's sister had drowned in a boat accident in the Hudson river just before she was born and so she was named after her. > > In the Sunday Record of June 24, 1984 they re-published the original article (April 24, 1913.) > > Three persons were drowned and four others had narrow escapes from the same fate this morning when the steam ferry boat, "The Ambrose," running between Troy and Green Island at Douw street went over the state dam at Middleburgh street. > The Dead > > Miss Gertrude Breen, 17 Arch street, Green island, aged 25 years. > Miss Nellie Maguire, 162 Paine street, Green island aged 35 years. > Miss Mary Ahearn, 36 James street, Green Island aged 26 years. > Besides the owner of the boat, William B. Curley, who resides at 20 Douw street, this city, and the three victims there were three men passengers on board, all of whom were rescued. > They were: > Arthur Jesmain, 168 Hudson avenue, Green Island. > Albert Stebbins, who resides in a house boat anchored in the state basin. > James M. Williams 156 Hudson avenue, Green Island > > Happened at 7:00A.M. Mr. Curley, who is captain and pilot , left the Troy side of the river at 6:15 o'clock this morning for his first trip, and because of a heavy fog decided instead of making trips every five minutes as usual to make them every fifteen minutes. Mr. Curley was making his third trip of the morning at the time of the accident and was coming across the river from Green Island to the dock at the foot of douw street where he was scheduled to arrive at 7 o'clock. > Over the Dam: > Mr. Curley had made the two previous trips without mishap although the fog was dense and he could not see. He usually sent the boat in a sort of half circle to the north in order to avoid getting too close the the state dam. and thought he was doing so on his third trip. There was no intimation that the boat was getting near the dam until Mr. Curley heard the noise of the rushing water. He then threw out his anchor, but it was too late, the current being very swift, and before the passengers could be warned the boat went over the dam carrying the occupants with it. (Note:Mr Curley also stated in another part of the article that he had put his compass next to the boiler and evidentially was getting an incorrect reading.) > No time for Life Belts: > The boat was equipped with life belts which were tied together, but there was no time to get at them. Some of them were found later > floating near the dam.The ferry boat turned almost on end and a portion of the stern only is visible just south of the dam. The ware is twelve feet deep at the foot of the dam and three feet of water is running over the crest of the dam. There is shoal about ten feet from the boat where the water is only about three feet deep when the tide is out. At the time of the accident the tide was in. > Caught in the Cabin: > The women passengers, because of the fog, went into the cabin of the boat after boarding it at Green Island .The men were outside on deck. The women had no fear of the fog, because they had been passengers on the ferry boat almost every day except Sunday, since Mr. Curley first started to run it, and last summer had often crossed when it was very foggy. When the boat this morning struck the dam the men jumped but it is thought the women remained in the cabin and after the boat settled in the river the strong current carried their bodies down the river. > > As soon as the fog had lifted a number of boats were put out near the foot of the dam and attempts made to locate the bodies. Riverment stated that that the strong current would carry the bodies down the river and that they would probably be found a long distance from the dam.Captain Powers of the Third precinct station detailed Officers Trainor and McCarthy to the scene. The men put out in a boat,and near Rock Island found a hat and a kid gloves floating on the water. The had was of black straw, sailor pattern, and was trimmed with a black velvet bow. The glove was of brown kid and was for the right hand. They were evidentially the property of one of the unfortunate girls. > > Other information on the 3 women was that they attended St. Joseph's in Green Island.They were going to work that morning to Cluet and Peabody's. My great aunt Gertrude was engaged to be married to one of the men on the boat who survived the accident. I asked the Troy library to find Gertrude's obituary and they could not find one. I do not know whether or not her body or the bodies of the other women were found.This news item was published in national newspapers as far away as Texas. > One last sad note,I discovered on a census document that Gertrude's mother (my great grandmother) had five children and the record showed that only two had survived:my grandfather and Gertrude. With the death of my great aunt she had lost 4 of her five children. > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Hotel pics, info and virtual tours. Click here to book a hotel online. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1551 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:49 AM > ____________________________________________________________ > Free quote and debt consolidation information. 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I recommend the novel "The Whitest Flower," by Brendan Graham, as a way to learn about the terrible circumstances in Ireland in the 1840s.  The story is told in the experiences of an Irish woman who is a survivor of what life threw at her.  Brendan Graham was inspired by three songs, he said in the foreword.  With over one hundred recordings, Brendan Graham's songs have enjoyed success across the world. Graham was born in County Tipperary in 1845 and lived in Australia for five years before returning to Dublin, where he lived at the time of publication. A former basketball international and a recipient of Australia's Lansing Bagnall Award for business studies, he has for many yeas been an activist on behalf of composers. He has served on FORTE, a task force formed to strengthen Ireland's music industry.   Nancy Johnsen Curran http://pages.prodigy.net/nancycurran Genealogy research and photography in the capital region of New York State