Will you be here this Friday the 30th or the following Friday, 9/6? I think you best bet is to hit the library, the Troy Room on the first floor has excellent resources. The second floor has the microfiche of old newspapers. Kris **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

to all   We are going on vacation next week with my father-in-law. We will be in the Berkshires of western MA. I am going to try and get one day to run over to Troy and do some research. Any sugestions?  I thought I would try the local churches and see if they will let me review the records. I think some family members were married at St Peter's so I expect ther would be baptisms as well and maybe a funeral or two   Let me know asap we leave here Friday am, probably get up there some time Saturday and stay until the following Friday. I will be without access to the internet A.E Fadden “Beware the people who moralize about great issues; moralizing is easier than facing hard facts.” - John Corry --- On Tue, 12/18/07, Kris6851@aol.com <Kris6851@aol.com> wrote: From: Kris6851@aol.com <Kris6851@aol.com> Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Website recommendation To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2007, 11:02 PM Just meandering tonight and thought I would pass along _www.ulsterancestry.com_ (http://www.ulsterancestry.com) . They have some excellent FREE pages Kristin **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2007 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sunday June 29 008TroyRecord Article 100years ago Monday June 29,1908 “ The Prospect Park playground opens for the summer with ceremonies befitting an important civic event.It is operated by the Womens Improvement League and supervised by Troy schoolteachers.The principal speaker, besides the Mayor, is Rev Chauncey B. Magill of Memorial Presbyterian Church who says Troy is one of the pioneer cities in the country in having a public playground. It is German Day and the parade was canceled but activities go on at Young’s Grove which includes a children's carnival. The little girls were dressed in pretty frocks while the boys were attired in white waists and dark trousers.They marched under the trees ,singing. There is also a athletic demonstration by the Troy Turn Verein and a speech by Troy's leading German citizen Werner Strecker, a druggist and insurance agent who is also president of the German – American Alliance Club .Membership has jumped from 16,000 to 36,000 in 1907 and is open only to naturalized American citizens. **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

I can't find you, Jack. I have a facebook account. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack McEneny" <invite+p3j_kpkm@facebookmail.com> To: "ny-troy-irish-gensoc" <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:21 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Check out my Facebook profile > > I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and > events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you > need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own > profile. > > Thanks, > Jack > > Here's the link: > http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=1424362042&k=YWB33ZR4VWWM5FGCU143VQ&r&v=2 > > ___________________ > This e-mail may contain promotional materials. If you do not wish to > receive future commercial mailings from Facebook, please click on the link > below. Facebook's offices are located at 156 University Ave., Palo Alto, > CA 94301. > http://www.facebook.com/o.php?u=1433422075&k=df2517 > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 20549 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Saturday June 28, 2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoSunday June 28 , 1908 “The City of Watervliet today hold a parade to celebrate a 50th Anniversary of a popular Catholic priest,Rev William F Sheehan.of St Patrick's Church.The 76 year old priest , a native of Fermay in County Cork, Ireland was ordained 50 years ago.Pope Pius X has sent a message of congratulations to him. Mostly every building is decorated and both Catholic and Protestant churches tolled their bells as the parade moved along.The fire alarm at 23rd Street was also sounded. The festivities close with a band concert for 4000 spectators on the lawn in front of the electrically illuminated church.An estimated 3000 bulbs are strung on St Patrick's spire, while the mammoth cross on the steeple was a blaze of light. A 6 yr old ,Blanch Stewart is killed and her younger sister Peachie Stewart is hospitalized, following a kitchen fire, caused by an exploding lamp. At 2189-6TH Avenue. Mrs Edward Stewart, their mother rescues them and 3rd child from the blaze. **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile. Thanks, Jack Here's the link: http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=1424362042&k=YWB33ZR4VWWM5FGCU143VQ&r&v=2 ___________________ This e-mail may contain promotional materials. If you do not wish to receive future commercial mailings from Facebook, please click on the link below. Facebook's offices are located at 156 University Ave., Palo Alto, CA 94301. http://www.facebook.com/o.php?u=1433422075&k=df2517

This index is almost completely online. Recently added were the Ms, all 54 webpages of them; plus the Ns, Os, Us and Vs. The letters left to go online (P, R, S, T, W, Y) are all currently being worked and should go online soon. You can find the index at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

If you know the Poor Law Union of any county, I can give you the exact printing date of the survey and the Family History Library film number. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Photo of the day Troy Record Tuesday June 26, 2008 1934 photo of Frank D .Cipperly at Brimmer Re-enactment in North Petersburg Photo of the day Troy Record Tuesday June 26, 2008 1921 photo of James and Betty Burns(as children) Photo of the day Troy Record Tuesday June 28, 2008 1920photo of Watervliet Arsenal Photo of the day Troy Record Tuesday June 30, 2008 1947photo of Victor and Pam Neaton,and children Wickie Pame,Pricella,Joanne and Alan **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

With Dave's permission I'm forwarding his email. It may be of help to some of you as far as narrowing down the year your ancestors were listed in Griffiths Valuation. Terry in Mich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Fleming" <dfleming@iol.ie> To: "Rootsweb - Dublin City" <irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com>; "Rootsweb - Galway" <IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com>; "Rootsweb - Westmeath" <IRL-WESTMEATH@rootsweb.com>; "Rootsweb - Carlow" <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com>; "Rootsweb - Laois" <irl-laois@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: [IRL-GALWAY] Griffith Valuation year of survey > Hi all, > In order to help pinpoint the accuracy or relevance of the Griffith > Valuation survey I did out this > index of year surveyed by county. > > Griffiths Valuation > 1848-1864 > > Index of Year Surveyed > > The survey started in Dublin and Waterford in 1848 and then worked up > from Co Kerry & Cork moving northward and finished in Armagh in 1864. > > > ANTRIM 1861-62 > ARMAGH 1864 > CARLOW 1852-53 > CAVAN 1856-57 > CLARE 1855 > CORK 1851-53 > DONEGAL 1857 > DOWN 1863-64 > DUBLIN 1848-51 > FERMANAGH 1862 > GALWAY 1855 > KERRY 1850? > KILDARE 1851 > KILKENNY 1849-50 > LAOIS [QUEEN'S] 1851-52 > LEITRIM 1856 > LIMERICK 1851-52 > LONDONDERRY 1858-59 > LONGFORD 1854 > LOUTH 1854 > MAYO 1856-57 > MEATH 1855 > MONAGHAN 1858-60 > OFFALY [KING'S] 1854 > ROSCOMMON 1857-58 > SLIGO 1858 > TIPPERARY 1851 > TYRONE 1861 > WATERFORD 1848-51 > WESTMEATH 1854 > WEXFORD 1853 > WICKLOW 1852-53 > > This is indicative only of initial survey. There might be varations on > this schedule but is covers most counties accurately. > > > Good hunting, > Dave Fleming > > > >

Friday June 27, 2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoSaturday June 27 , 1908 “Final plans have been made for next weeks 4th of July celebration with a sham battle at Rensselaer Park as the main event.The Troy Elks are the main sponsor this year and will parade in their new uniform .The uniforms are white duck trousers,white shoes , white shirts, white hats , white umbrellas,purple neckties and purple belts. After the parade the marchers will enjoy a lunch at the state armory before marching to Union Station where a special Boston and Maine train will take them to Rensselaer Park. There the National Guard units will execute drills between heats of trotters racing.They pit Joe Gahm, owned by Porter S. Oakley against Enoch, owned by William T. Shyne.Thomas W. Hislop is the Grand Marshall. Then comes the main attraction, the sham battle where an estimated 7000 rounds of ammunition will be fired. William Sidney Nicholson, a plant supervisor at the Husdon River Telephone company’s Albany office is traveling on Willow Glen Road on his way back from Lake George and swerves to avoid a farmer horse drawn wagon near Mechanicville,overturning his automobile and is killed when his neck is broken.Mrs Nicholson suffers 2 broken ribs, his mother-in –law and a preachers daughter ,Miss Brown, riding in the car are uninjured.” **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

Donna, I am sending you a personal email re: the Knight surname, as well as that of Butler. Sheila **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

Although I do not live in Green Island anymore, I do believe some of those surnames are still living there, you could check whitepages.com and see, it is a small town & if you find someone with those last names, they are probably related & you could call or write to them. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn" <cohoes2@juno.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] News article dated April 24, 1913 > Could you give me more information on the families you remember? I have > found one of the women's name in the 1880 census but it was an address in > Troy not Green Island. I don't know who her father , mother or siblings > were. I found Mary Ahearn who was close to my go aunt in age. I have a > feeling they were not found. This really bothers me for some reason. They > were well know in the community and my aunt was engaged to one of the male > survivors. > > Thank you for your response. I think the word melancholy (although I never > have used that word in my life) is appropriate here. I think this is the > most interesting thing about genealogy for me. That the people who came > before me lived lives of struggle and loss and sorrow but somehow survived > because they had the hope that life would somehow get better. > I am also fascinated by them and their sometimes inexplicable behavior. My > grandmother kept changing her name (both first and last name) fortunately > my > mother did leave enough clues behind to trace her in various places. She > was > married twice which did not help matters. > It also seemed to matter very little what name they went under or how it > was > spelled. You can tell they were covering up something but who knows what? > It > is better then reading a good mystery. > > My grandfather's family were listed as running a saloon at 138 George > Street in Green Island and that seems to have lasted 2 generations. I > wonder > if the reasons for doing genealogy are similar? > To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:29 PM > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] News article dated April 24, 1913 > > >> That is a very sad story. I do not recall hearing this one before, >> although >> I grew up in Green Island and my grandparents and their friends >> frequently >> told us about these sorts of things that had happened in the past. I do >> recognize some of the names as being Green Island family names. >> >> Donna >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lynn" <cohoes2@juno.com> >> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:15 PM >> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] News article dated April 24, 1913 >> >> >>> If any of these names are familiar or if anyone wants more information >>> please let me know. I am interested to know if any of the bodies were >>> recovered. I did contact the Troy Library and they could not find an >>> obituary for my great aunt. The article was accompanied with a picture >>> of >>> my aunt and one of the other women who drowned. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Left Behind >>> To: Lynn >>> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:45 AM >>> Subject: Fw: Please send this back to me. >>> >>> >>> From: Lynn >>> To: Kilmelkin@yahoo.com >>> Cc: Ravens and Magpies -- Oh my >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:50 AM >>> Subject: Please send this back to me. >>> >>> >>> My mother really hated her name.I asked her once why her mother had >>> named >>> her Gertrude and she told me that her father's sister had drowned in a >>> boat accident in the Hudson river just before she was born and so she >>> was >>> named after her. >>> >>> In the Sunday Record of June 24, 1984 they re-published the original >>> article (April 24, 1913.) >>> >>> Three persons were drowned and four others had narrow escapes from the >>> same fate this morning when the steam ferry boat, "The Ambrose," running >>> between Troy and Green Island at Douw street went over the state dam at >>> Middleburgh street. >>> The Dead >>> >>> Miss Gertrude Breen, 17 Arch street, Green island, aged 25 years. >>> Miss Nellie Maguire, 162 Paine street, Green island aged 35 years. >>> Miss Mary Ahearn, 36 James street, Green Island aged 26 years. >>> Besides the owner of the boat, William B. Curley, who resides at 20 Douw >>> street, this city, and the three victims there were three men passengers >>> on board, all of whom were rescued. >>> They were: >>> Arthur Jesmain, 168 Hudson avenue, Green Island. >>> Albert Stebbins, who resides in a house boat anchored in the state >>> basin. >>> James M. Williams 156 Hudson avenue, Green Island >>> >>> Happened at 7:00A.M. Mr. Curley, who is captain and pilot , left the >>> Troy >>> side of the river at 6:15 o'clock this morning for his first trip, and >>> because of a heavy fog decided instead of making trips every five >>> minutes >>> as usual to make them every fifteen minutes. Mr. Curley was making his >>> third trip of the morning at the time of the accident and was coming >>> across the river from Green Island to the dock at the foot of douw >>> street >>> where he was scheduled to arrive at 7 o'clock. >>> Over the Dam: >>> Mr. Curley had made the two previous trips without mishap although the >>> fog >>> was dense and he could not see. He usually sent the boat in a sort of >>> half >>> circle to the north in order to avoid getting too close the the state >>> dam. >>> and thought he was doing so on his third trip. There was no intimation >>> that the boat was getting near the dam until Mr. Curley heard the noise >>> of >>> the rushing water. He then threw out his anchor, but it was too late, >>> the >>> current being very swift, and before the passengers could be warned the >>> boat went over the dam carrying the occupants with it. (Note:Mr Curley >>> also stated in another part of the article that he had put his compass >>> next to the boiler and evidentially was getting an incorrect reading.) >>> No time for Life Belts: >>> The boat was equipped with life belts which were tied together, but >>> there >>> was no time to get at them. Some of them were found later >>> floating near the dam.The ferry boat turned almost on end and a portion >>> of >>> the stern only is visible just south of the dam. The ware is twelve feet >>> deep at the foot of the dam and three feet of water is running over the >>> crest of the dam. There is shoal about ten feet from the boat where the >>> water is only about three feet deep when the tide is out. At the time of >>> the accident the tide was in. >>> Caught in the Cabin: >>> The women passengers, because of the fog, went into the cabin of the >>> boat >>> after boarding it at Green Island .The men were outside on deck. The >>> women >>> had no fear of the fog, because they had been passengers on the ferry >>> boat >>> almost every day except Sunday, since Mr. Curley first started to run >>> it, >>> and last summer had often crossed when it was very foggy. When the boat >>> this morning struck the dam the men jumped but it is thought the women >>> remained in the cabin and after the boat settled in the river the strong >>> current carried their bodies down the river. >>> >>> As soon as the fog had lifted a number of boats were put out near the >>> foot >>> of the dam and attempts made to locate the bodies. Riverment stated that >>> that the strong current would carry the bodies down the river and that >>> they would probably be found a long distance from the dam.Captain Powers >>> of the Third precinct station detailed Officers Trainor and McCarthy to >>> the scene. The men put out in a boat,and near Rock Island found a hat >>> and >>> a kid gloves floating on the water. The had was of black straw, sailor >>> pattern, and was trimmed with a black velvet bow. The glove was of brown >>> kid and was for the right hand. They were evidentially the property of >>> one >>> of the unfortunate girls. >>> >>> Other information on the 3 women was that they attended St. Joseph's in >>> Green Island.They were going to work that morning to Cluet and >>> Peabody's. >>> My great aunt Gertrude was engaged to be married to one of the men on >>> the >>> boat who survived the accident. I asked the Troy library to find >>> Gertrude's obituary and they could not find one. I do not know whether >>> or >>> not her body or the bodies of the other women were found.This news item >>> was published in national newspapers as far away as Texas. >>> One last sad note,I discovered on a census document that Gertrude's >>> mother >>> (my great grandmother) had five children and the record showed that only >>> two had survived:my grandfather and Gertrude. With the death of my great >>> aunt she had lost 4 of her five children. >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Hotel pics, info and virtual tours. Click here to book a hotel online. >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1551 - Release Date: >>> 7/14/2008 >>> 6:49 AM >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Free quote and debt consolidation information. 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One more reminder of our monthly meeting this Thursday at the Redfront in Troy at 6:30. I have gotten agenda items and it is not to late to send anything else to me. You can forward off list or on list and I will check tomorrow for anything. For an August meeting we have a good expected turn out...Kris **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

> From: dkvaughn@nycap.rr.com> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:04:37 -0400> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] test-ignore> > Email woes again, testing.> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List===> Did you pay your 2008 Dues?> Troy Irish Genealogy Society> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Donna, Received your test OK. Joan

Could you give me more information on the families you remember? I have found one of the women's name in the 1880 census but it was an address in Troy not Green Island. I don't know who her father , mother or siblings were. I found Mary Ahearn who was close to my go aunt in age. I have a feeling they were not found. This really bothers me for some reason. They were well know in the community and my aunt was engaged to one of the male survivors. Thank you for your response. I think the word melancholy (although I never have used that word in my life) is appropriate here. I think this is the most interesting thing about genealogy for me. That the people who came before me lived lives of struggle and loss and sorrow but somehow survived because they had the hope that life would somehow get better. I am also fascinated by them and their sometimes inexplicable behavior. My grandmother kept changing her name (both first and last name) fortunately my mother did leave enough clues behind to trace her in various places. She was married twice which did not help matters. It also seemed to matter very little what name they went under or how it was spelled. You can tell they were covering up something but who knows what? It is better then reading a good mystery. My grandfather's family were listed as running a saloon at 138 George Street in Green Island and that seems to have lasted 2 generations. I wonder if the reasons for doing genealogy are similar? To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] News article dated April 24, 1913 > That is a very sad story. I do not recall hearing this one before, > although > I grew up in Green Island and my grandparents and their friends frequently > told us about these sorts of things that had happened in the past. I do > recognize some of the names as being Green Island family names. > > Donna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynn" <cohoes2@juno.com> > To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:15 PM > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] News article dated April 24, 1913 > > >> If any of these names are familiar or if anyone wants more information >> please let me know. I am interested to know if any of the bodies were >> recovered. I did contact the Troy Library and they could not find an >> obituary for my great aunt. The article was accompanied with a picture of >> my aunt and one of the other women who drowned. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Left Behind >> To: Lynn >> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:45 AM >> Subject: Fw: Please send this back to me. >> >> >> From: Lynn >> To: Kilmelkin@yahoo.com >> Cc: Ravens and Magpies -- Oh my >> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:50 AM >> Subject: Please send this back to me. >> >> >> My mother really hated her name.I asked her once why her mother had named >> her Gertrude and she told me that her father's sister had drowned in a >> boat accident in the Hudson river just before she was born and so she was >> named after her. >> >> In the Sunday Record of June 24, 1984 they re-published the original >> article (April 24, 1913.) >> >> Three persons were drowned and four others had narrow escapes from the >> same fate this morning when the steam ferry boat, "The Ambrose," running >> between Troy and Green Island at Douw street went over the state dam at >> Middleburgh street. >> The Dead >> >> Miss Gertrude Breen, 17 Arch street, Green island, aged 25 years. >> Miss Nellie Maguire, 162 Paine street, Green island aged 35 years. >> Miss Mary Ahearn, 36 James street, Green Island aged 26 years. >> Besides the owner of the boat, William B. Curley, who resides at 20 Douw >> street, this city, and the three victims there were three men passengers >> on board, all of whom were rescued. >> They were: >> Arthur Jesmain, 168 Hudson avenue, Green Island. >> Albert Stebbins, who resides in a house boat anchored in the state basin. >> James M. Williams 156 Hudson avenue, Green Island >> >> Happened at 7:00A.M. Mr. Curley, who is captain and pilot , left the >> Troy >> side of the river at 6:15 o'clock this morning for his first trip, and >> because of a heavy fog decided instead of making trips every five minutes >> as usual to make them every fifteen minutes. Mr. Curley was making his >> third trip of the morning at the time of the accident and was coming >> across the river from Green Island to the dock at the foot of douw street >> where he was scheduled to arrive at 7 o'clock. >> Over the Dam: >> Mr. Curley had made the two previous trips without mishap although the >> fog >> was dense and he could not see. He usually sent the boat in a sort of >> half >> circle to the north in order to avoid getting too close the the state >> dam. >> and thought he was doing so on his third trip. There was no intimation >> that the boat was getting near the dam until Mr. Curley heard the noise >> of >> the rushing water. He then threw out his anchor, but it was too late, the >> current being very swift, and before the passengers could be warned the >> boat went over the dam carrying the occupants with it. (Note:Mr Curley >> also stated in another part of the article that he had put his compass >> next to the boiler and evidentially was getting an incorrect reading.) >> No time for Life Belts: >> The boat was equipped with life belts which were tied together, but there >> was no time to get at them. Some of them were found later >> floating near the dam.The ferry boat turned almost on end and a portion >> of >> the stern only is visible just south of the dam. The ware is twelve feet >> deep at the foot of the dam and three feet of water is running over the >> crest of the dam. There is shoal about ten feet from the boat where the >> water is only about three feet deep when the tide is out. At the time of >> the accident the tide was in. >> Caught in the Cabin: >> The women passengers, because of the fog, went into the cabin of the boat >> after boarding it at Green Island .The men were outside on deck. The >> women >> had no fear of the fog, because they had been passengers on the ferry >> boat >> almost every day except Sunday, since Mr. Curley first started to run it, >> and last summer had often crossed when it was very foggy. When the boat >> this morning struck the dam the men jumped but it is thought the women >> remained in the cabin and after the boat settled in the river the strong >> current carried their bodies down the river. >> >> As soon as the fog had lifted a number of boats were put out near the >> foot >> of the dam and attempts made to locate the bodies. Riverment stated that >> that the strong current would carry the bodies down the river and that >> they would probably be found a long distance from the dam.Captain Powers >> of the Third precinct station detailed Officers Trainor and McCarthy to >> the scene. The men put out in a boat,and near Rock Island found a hat and >> a kid gloves floating on the water. The had was of black straw, sailor >> pattern, and was trimmed with a black velvet bow. The glove was of brown >> kid and was for the right hand. They were evidentially the property of >> one >> of the unfortunate girls. >> >> Other information on the 3 women was that they attended St. Joseph's in >> Green Island.They were going to work that morning to Cluet and Peabody's. >> My great aunt Gertrude was engaged to be married to one of the men on the >> boat who survived the accident. I asked the Troy library to find >> Gertrude's obituary and they could not find one. I do not know whether or >> not her body or the bodies of the other women were found.This news item >> was published in national newspapers as far away as Texas. >> One last sad note,I discovered on a census document that Gertrude's >> mother >> (my great grandmother) had five children and the record showed that only >> two had survived:my grandfather and Gertrude. With the death of my great >> aunt she had lost 4 of her five children. >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Hotel pics, info and virtual tours. 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>Dear Listers, >I am looking for decendants of these inter-married families. I am related to Minahan/Minehans of S. Troy and I think this vein somehow is connected. Here is the info I have on these families to see if it rings any bells! > >Children of James Minahan and Ellen/Helen WARD Minahan >1.William Minahan (18 - 1903), married Julia WADE (18 -19 ) Feb 6, 1866 they lived at 512 Second St for many years. Had children : Jennie (Jane) who married Thomas WHALEY and they lived on James St. in Greeen Island in the 1900 census, >2. James Minahan (18 -1868) married Margaret (?) Minahan(18 -1873) Children: >3. Catherine Minahan (18 -19 ) married COLLOPY >4. Hanora Minahan (18 -19 ) married COLLOPY > >I believe Julia WADE also had siblings living close by in S. Troy possible brothers named: Michael WADE, > >The name "Minahan" has been spelled on records as : Minehan, Minnihan, Minahan, Monegan, Minihan. > >William and Julia Minahan lived at 512 Second St. according to the the City Directories beginning in 1867. In 1880 there is another Minahan family also living at this address; the family of Edward and Mary (Gleeson) Minehan, this Minehan family is related to me. Any decendants of these other families please contact me - many thanks! >Jeanne in KC! > > >

Dear Listers, I am looking for any descendants of this MINAHAN family. I am related to Minahan/Minehan's of S. Troy, and I think this family is somehow connected. Here is the info I have on these families to see if it rings any bells. >Children of James and Ellen (or Helen) WARD Minahan; Both were born in Ireland - don't know where, and I do not believe they came to Troy. These children did; > >1. William Minahan(1840-1903) married Julia WADE (1843-1921) they lived at 512 Second St. beginning in 1869 to Julia's death. Their children: Jennie (or Jane) married Thomas WHALEY lived on James St. in Green Island, Michael b:1969-12/1870, James b:1869-12/1896, Nellie b:9/1871, Elizabeth b: 8/1873, William b: 1875, John b: 1877, Timothy b: 8/1879, Julia b: 6/1882, Thomas b: 6/1887. Either Nellie or Julia became a Sister of St. Joseph. > >2. James Minahan(1834-1868) married Margaret (?) Minahan (1835-1873) Had children: John (1855-1891), Ellen (1857-1905) married James WARD, Elizabeth 1860-1901 married KENNEDY, James 1862-1900, William 1863-1896, Daniel J. abt 1866-1929; married Mary Fogarty, Daniel J. Minahan was a famous baseball player in New York teams, Catherine abt. 1865-1889, Margaret (or Mary) abt. 1867/1868 > >3. Catherine Minahan (1835-1915) married James COLLOPY (1827-1906) Children: Margaret Collopy; married Connery, Catherine Collopy; married Ryan, Timothy Collopy. The COLLOPY family ran a grocery store in South Troy. > >4. Hanora Minahan (1846-1904) married Timothy COllOPY (9/1844-1914), Children: John Collopy b:2/1876, Mary Collopy b:5/1880, Margaret Collopy b:3/1883, William Collopy b:12/1885 It is possible Timothy Collopy and James Collopy were brothers. > >I believe Julia WADE Minahan had siblings living close by in S. Troy- possibly brothers named Michael WADE, James WADE living at 514 Second St. in 1880. In the 1880 census there is another Minehan family at 512 Second St; Edward and Mary (Gleeson) Minehan and their children as well. This Minehan family is my line for sure. Any descendants of these families please contact me - many thanks! > >Jeanne in KC

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