Ancestry.com is a great place to begin and mature a genealogy search. It is great for establishing your family tree that existed in the US. You can trace your relatives from the 1930 Census as far back as 1790 if your relatives were here then. They have a very easy to use Family Tree program that will list all your family members you've entered and then give you hints on which Census that they have found a possible link. When this is verified by you you can automatically tag that Census or other historical event to your family member giving you a trail for verification. They have city directories that give addresses and dates when the bread winner died. That maybe the only time a spouse is listed unless she as a worker in which case she was listed in the Directory. They have links to the Social Security death index and the Civil War. You may have to play around with the data available to see what may help you but there is a wealth of info there. I agree you will not find much help with records in Europe. There are other sources that charge for access to European info. Most will allow you to look and find a possible match. You have to pay for what looks like a match but there is no guarantee that the promising link is actually a family member of yours. If your relatives were here between 1880 and 1930 Ancestry .com will provide you tons of info about family members, etc. You must know at least your parents or grandparents name and a few siblings names to verify if you have the right family. You really need to know what city/town they are from or you will spend hours looking at all the possible matches. Good luck. I've been using Ancestry.com for over 3 years now and I probably found as much stuff in the last few months as I ever did. I've got 13 of my 16 great great grandparents identified and now have 9 of 16 of my wife's great great grandparents identified. I only knew my grandparents names (including maiden names) and where they were born. Most of this I got from Ancestry.com and with the local libraries my grandparents lived in. Obituaries in home town papers were an immense help. It not only listed survivors but also the married names of of spouses. I eventually got to speak to a few 3rd and fourth cousins and a few once or twice removed. I met a 3rd cousin of mine in Watervliet, NY (the Raineys all came from Troy, NY) that our common ancestor was born in 1852 and we looked surprisingly similar. Of course all Irish people are about 5' 9" or 10" with fair skin, light colored hair (maybe reddish when young) and round faces and shapes so maybe it was not surprising. Good luck---stay with Ancestry.com Have a great day, Mike > Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:41:35 -0400 > From: Carol.Vercammen@state.ma.us > To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Social Security Death Index > > Looking for advice. I just received a 14 day free trial on Ancestry.com > and am a bit disappointed. People have been touting how great they are > for a few years to me and now that I am on, I am shocked at how little > info they have on Ireland. They do carry many, many records but nothing > I need to find on Ireland. > > Am I perhaps using the site incorrectly? Is there a special place I > should be searching? Any advice will be greatly appreciated. > > > Carol VerCammen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill & > Cathy McGrath > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 2:41 PM > To: NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-L@rootsweb.com; nyrensse@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Social Security Death Index > > I am sure that most genealogy researchers are familiar with the numerous > internet sites for accessing the Social Security Death Index. > > Just came across a new free one that I think is the best. Go to: > www.genealogybank.com and click on "Free Social Security Death Index" on > lower right side of page. When a name comes up that you are interested > in, clicking on the name brings up the detailed page. > > In addition to the date of birth and date of death you will get the day > of the week for each event. Also shown is estimated date at death in > years, months and days. > > This index is unique with weekly updates, easy-to-use format and > comprehensive coverage. > > Try it, you will like it. > > Regards, > > Bill McGrath > Clifton Park, NY > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. 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I found some family records and those marriages all took place in church. However, I don't think all marriages were reported in the earliest years. In many cases, I found that the civil records had more information than the church records. They are definitely worth exploring. ----- Original Message ----- From: <BZLho3dS@aol.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Assistance Needed - Catherine Ryan POWELL > This might not be any help, but ACHOR has a microfilm of marriages > occurring > in Albany. It may not include any marriages that took place in a church > but > may be worth exploring. I do not remember the dates that it covered, but > know > I found one that I was looking for, in 1896. It was not a Catholic > marriage. > However, if there was a secular wedding as well as a religious one, it > might > possibly be found on that film. Just a thought. > > > ........................................................................ > One last question please- does anyone know how to obtain information from > the > Albany County Roman Catholic diocese- trying to find information on a > wedding at St. Mary's Church - Catholic in Albany in 1893- church as > limited information- need birthdate of the bride.-church does not have > this information. > > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html

This might not be any help, but ACHOR has a microfilm of marriages occurring in Albany. It may not include any marriages that took place in a church but may be worth exploring. I do not remember the dates that it covered, but know I found one that I was looking for, in 1896. It was not a Catholic marriage. However, if there was a secular wedding as well as a religious one, it might possibly be found on that film. Just a thought. ........................................................................ One last question please- does anyone know how to obtain information from the Albany County Roman Catholic diocese- trying to find information on a wedding at St. Mary's Church - Catholic in Albany in 1893- church as limited information- need birthdate of the bride.-church does not have this information. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Can anything be done to provide online notes, or a recap of some kind for those of us unable to attend the upcoming lecture on the Irish who immigrated to Troy during the Famine years ? So many of us had ancestors who would have been in that particular group that it would be wonderful if the talk could be audio taped, transcribed and put online for all. A lot of work on short notice. Just a thought... **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Thank you, donna. Marge On Sep 30, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Donna K. Vaughn wrote: > 7328: USA > 2880: Canada > 3455: Bermuda > 7778: New York > > Donna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret A. Farrell" <marge667@earthlink.net> > To: <NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:29 PM > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] new inquirey > > >> I've been checking the Castlegarden.org site and found hints of my >> ancestors. However, there is no clue as to the meaning of the code >> numbers in the Destination column. >> Anyone have any information? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Marge >> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== >> Did you pay your 2008 Dues? >> Troy Irish Genealogy Society >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH- > GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just want to thank Mimi for helping me pot some plants this morning for our plant sale next spring. We potted forty plants today, and there are many more, but I'm afraid they will have to wait until next spring. I'll be away most of October; returning Oct 25th. We can use more pots, all sizes. Kris said if you have any to spare, she will be glad to take them at the October meeting. Sorry I'm going to miss the meeting, I really wanted to hear Jack McEneny speak. Jan

Hi Mimi, I plan to attend the TIGS meeting on 10/16 at the ICC. Is it possible to bring a guest(s)? Eileen Burton **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

7328: USA 2880: Canada 3455: Bermuda 7778: New York Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret A. Farrell" <marge667@earthlink.net> To: <NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:29 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] new inquirey > I've been checking the Castlegarden.org site and found hints of my > ancestors. However, there is no clue as to the meaning of the code > numbers in the Destination column. > Anyone have any information? > > Thanks, > > Marge > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've been checking the Castlegarden.org site and found hints of my ancestors. However, there is no clue as to the meaning of the code numbers in the Destination column. Anyone have any information? Thanks, Marge

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Darleen Lansing <deliarye777@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Darleen Lansing <deliarye777@yahoo.com> Subject: -assistance needed- Catherine Ryan POWELL To: jrich3744@aol.com Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 10:28 PM Hello- I am new to the list and would like to request any assistance in locating my great aunt- I believe her name is Catherine Ryan Powell and she had a son Henry Leo Powell.  They are both found in the Watervliet directories living at 110 4th St in Watervliet in 1922 & 1924- they both disappear after this date. They both are found in the 1910 & 1920 Fed census.I know she was alive in 1935 as she appears in the obit notice for my grandmother Delia Ryan McNally of Albany NY at that time.  A Catherine is listed as the widow of Thomas in the above directories so I have been looking into Thomas F. Powell's family  With the assistanceof the  archivist at Immaculate Heart of Mary, I have been able to obtain church information on this Powell family in question and I have been able to locate a Thomas Powell with wife Catherine but have been unable to obtain her maiden name to confirm it as Ryan- the archivist cannot locate a marriage records for them nor a funeral Thoma' family are the Patrick & Julia Powell family- Thomas one of five siblings: Peter, Michael, Joseph, [ O Henry] Eugene & Mary - he as checked into  records at St. Brigid's , St Patrick's. I do have the Feb 25, 1908 Obit for Thomas Powell  which lists his survivors as wife & son Harry, which I have assumed was the same as Henry Leo Powell residing with Catherine however I admit this assumption might be incorrect. Please forgive the length of this information- but any assistance in verifying or ruling out Catherine Powell as my great aunt would be very appreciated. One last question please- does anyone know how to obtain information from the Albany County Roman Catholic diocese- trying to find information on a wedding at St. Mary's Church - Catholic in Albany in 1893- church as limited information- need birthdate of the bride.-church does not have this information. Best regards Dar McNally Lansing

Monday July 21 ,2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoTuesday July 21 ,1908 “ A significant clue seems to emerge in the Hazel Drew murder case. Mr. and Mrs. William Hoffey report they had seen a wagon and 2 men at Teal’s Pond near the time that Drew was last seen alive on July 7. They did not see Drew herself. The farmer, Hoffey ,says he remembered the wagon right away when he heard of Hazels death but” If they are the ones who did it and they hear we told it, they may some time get a chance at me and injure me”. The paper reports that what he saw may now turn out to be a journey of 2 men seeking live bait in the shallow water near the edge of the pond. Hoffey also says he recalls seeing William Taylor, Hazel’s uncle, with a young like woman in Averill Park 5 weeks ago and he might be able to identify her as Hazel, whom he had never met. Taylors sister , Minnie, Hazels aunt and frequent companion,gets another grilling by district attorney Jarvis O’Brien. Photo of the day Troy Record Tuesday July 21, 2008 1936 photo of Watervliet High School Parade. The last graduating class marching from old Watervliet High School to new Watervliet High School. (_http://www.troyrecord.com_ (http://www.troyrecord.com/) ) PS Go to the Troy Record newspaper website; at the top click on Opinions then click on This Day in the Record and it will give you about a current weeks worth of This day in History. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

> From: mimi-nicotina@nycap.rr.com> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:36:05 -0400> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] October TIGHS meeting> Mimi; Bob and I will try to attend the October meeting. Bob & Joan > Greetings to all members> Just a reminder ,that the next meeting of TIGHS will be on Thursday,October 16,2008,at the Italian American Community Center,1450,Troy,New York. We club members will meet for a brief meeting at six p.m.,and at seven p.m., our guest speaker John McEneny will give his lecture on Irish immigration to the Troy area during the famine years. Please email me if you are planning to attend,and don't forget to bring a friend.! Mimi > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List===> Did you pay your 2008 Dues?> Troy Irish Genealogy Society> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kris, My two Troy cousins, Frank and David Miter, inherited the family camp from their dad, my uncle Tom. Unfortunately, a friend of Franks sons was allowed to use the camp and he burned it down so we have not had much contact with the locals for 25 or so years. There were 6 first cousins and 5 of us went in together to purchase the land from the brothers as they were going to sell it. We thought that maybe one of our children might want to buy it when they got some money together as they grew older. Taxes were not too much. When no children wanted it, we finally sold the property about 10 years ago to the guy next door who denuded the whole area of trees for his year-round house on the south side of the lake on Taborton Rd. We figure we made 7% on our initial investment and so nothing lost. Of the natives in Taborton, we knew Gus Meyers and his wife Florence very well. They lived in a house right next to the church and had land in back of the camps on the east side of Big Bowman. They were childless and I don't recall when they died. Gus did handyman labor and made charcoal. I remember one of our family members saying that Florence had some money which kept them going. Back before my uncle put in a well on our property we would fill a 5-gallon glass jug at the Meyer's well for drinking water. We used lake water for washing. I asked my cousin Dave just now to go take a look for the buffalo. He did not know about them. He lives in W Sand Lake but it is just too upsetting for him to go by our camp. The fellow who bought the Kern camp next door just ruined the area by clearing off the old timber. I'm related to the Kerns through my mother's side. Brad -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kris6851@aol.com Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:49 AM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com; lantana@npgcable.com Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Teal, Drew, Smith, Gundrum, Crape, O'Brien, Richmo... Brad, my husband and I own land on Taborton Mountain almost to the Old Dutch Church and cemetary at the top. We know a ton of Teals, our favorites Eleanor and Clayton are now gone but there kids are around. You probably knew the Daytons or the Ernst's. You know they have a Buffalo farm on that mountain now. Kris **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Saturday July 19, 2008 TroyRecord Article 100years agoSunday July 19 , 1908 “The pond where Hazel Drew’s body was found has become a tourist attraction with hundreds of people walking 3 or 4 miles from Averill Park to see the little mill pond. All day long a constant stream of visitors and sightseers climbing the mountain and the road, which is narrow in places,making it well nigh impassible. The spot was so well trodden that investigators will not find any more evidence there. They have spent the weekend rifling thru garbage of Drew’s former employer’s home, Prof E.R.Cary.Refuse that had been thrown away and was ready to burn has turned up correspondence of a few more of Hazel’s friends. She was last seen alive picking raspberries near Taborton Road.Special Officer John F. Murnane attached to the District Attorney’s office found a classified ad in the July 6th Record:Wanted – Girl for general housework to go to Sandlake for summer; references required Box 21.Record.” This may account for Hazel taking a trip to Averill Park. " Photo of the day Troy Record Tuesday July 19, 2008 1949 photo of St Joseph’s of South Troy, Tea Party submitted by Norma Vazzana **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Hi Mimi, I will be at the meeting in October Bill McMahon In a message dated 9/28/2008 6:36:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mimi-nicotina@nycap.rr.com writes: Greetings to all members Just a reminder ,that the next meeting of TIGHS will be on Thursday,October 16,2008,at the Italian American Community Center,1450,Troy,New York. We club members will meet for a brief meeting at six p.m.,and at seven p.m., our guest speaker John McEneny will give his lecture on Irish immigration to the Troy area during the famine years. Please email me if you are planning to attend,and don't forget to bring a friend.! Mimi ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Did you pay your 2008 Dues? Troy Irish Genealogy Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Mimi I will be at the meeting, Tim Hooley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mimi Nicotina" <mimi-nicotina@nycap.rr.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:36 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] October TIGHS meeting > Greetings to all members > Just a reminder ,that the next meeting of TIGHS will be > on Thursday,October 16,2008,at the Italian American Community > Center,1450,Troy,New York. We club members will meet for a brief meeting > at six p.m.,and at seven p.m., our guest speaker John McEneny will give > his lecture on Irish immigration to the Troy area during the famine years. > Please email me if you are planning to attend,and don't forget to bring a > friend.! Mimi > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Did you pay your 2008 Dues? > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mimi, I'll be there. Kris White **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Hi Mimi, I'm looking forward to attending the TIGS meeting at the ICC on Thursday, October 16 at 6 pm. See you then. Eileen Burton **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Greetings to all members Just a reminder ,that the next meeting of TIGHS will be on Thursday,October 16,2008,at the Italian American Community Center,1450,Troy,New York. We club members will meet for a brief meeting at six p.m.,and at seven p.m., our guest speaker John McEneny will give his lecture on Irish immigration to the Troy area during the famine years. Please email me if you are planning to attend,and don't forget to bring a friend.! Mimi