____________________________________ From: [email protected] Sent: 4/6/2012 6:28:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Irish American Museum Announcement - Reading of Easter Proclamation of 1916 > Irish American Heritage Museum > “Your Heritage…Pass it on.” > 370 Broadway > Albany, NY 12207 > PH: 518-427-1916 * Email: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > _www.irishamericanheritagemuseum.org_ (http://www.irishamericanheritagemuseum.org/) > > Assemblyman Jack McEneny to read Ireland’s “Easter Proclamation” > at New Irish American Heritage Museum in Albany > > ALBANY, NY: In keeping with the Irish American Heritage Museum’s mission of education, Albany resident, State Assembly Member, and historian Jack McEneny will read “The Proclamation of the Republic” (“The 1916 Proclamation ” or “Easter Proclamation”) commemorating the date in Irish history that lead to the “Easter Rising” in Ireland’s march to independence. Assemblyman McEneny’s reading will be at 11:00 a.m. on Easter Monday morning, April 9, at the Museum at 370 Broadway, Albany. > > The historic 11-sentence proclamation of Irish Independence was originally read 96 years ago on Easter Monday, April 24, 1916, by Patrick Pearse on the steps of the General Post Office on what was then Sackville Street and is now O’Connell Street in Dublin, the city’s main thoroughfare. The proclamation, signed by seven Irish leaders seeking independence from Briton, and its public reading marked the beginning of the Rising. > > One of the Proclamation’s seven signers was James Connolly, who emigrated from Ireland and lived for a time in Troy, NY, before returning to Ireland to join in Ireland’s move to independence. He is honored in Troy with a monument in his memory in Riverfront Park. The other leaders who signed the Proclamation were Thomas J. Clarke, Seán Mac Diarmada, Thomas MacDonagh, Patrick H. Pearse, Éamonn Ceannt, and Joseph Plunkett. > > ABOUT THE IRISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MUSEUM > > The Museum is unique in the United States, where almost 40 million people claim Irish ancestry. The Museum is committed to the tenet that preserving one’s heritage is vital to providing a cultural and historical foundation to future generations of Americans. > > The Irish American Heritage Museum was created by New York State Legislation in 1986 and permanently chartered by the New York State Education Department in 1992 as a 501c3 non-profit educational institution. The Museum’s mission is to preserve and tell the story of the contributions of the Irish people and their culture in America, inspiring individuals to examine the importance of their own heritage as part of the American cultural mosaic.

Will the person who wanted information on Manning please contact me? I have just located a file with more TOMBSTONES... and have quite a few more Mannings with Cunningham, Galligan, Finnerty, Ellis, Geer, and Breen. Kathleen Secker-ksecker266 @verizon.net

John, Thank you so much for answering my question about the WWI draft. I knew I could count on the Troy Irish list for help. Kay Brearton ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Duffy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] WWI Draft Registration During World War I, there were three registrations. The first was on June 5, 1917, registering men between the ages of 21 and 31. The second was on June 5, 1918, registering men who had turned 21 since June 5, 1917 (A supplemental registration on Aug. 24, 1918, registered those becoming 21 since June 5, 1918.). The third registration was held on September 12, 1918, and registered men 18 through 45. So, all men born between 1872 and September 1900 who were not in active military service by June 1917 filled out draft registration cards, whether they were native born, naturalized, or alien --- On Thu, 4/5/12, Kay Brearton <[email protected]> wrote: From: Kay Brearton <[email protected]> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] WWI Draft Registration To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, April 5, 2012, 1:07 PM Does anyone know the age limits required for registration for the draft in WWI? Kay ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Following Brad's system, I was able to find my parents in New York City (Bronx). Here again I knew where they lived and that made it much easier. It took some searching as the city is more complicated to weave through. However, I have not been able to find my wife's parents in the city (Brooklyn). I might have to wait for the every name index for that one. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bradford H Miter" <[email protected]> To: "TIGS" <[email protected]> Cc: "'Freda Stohrer'" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:40 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] 1940 Census > The 1940 Census appears to be alive and well on Ancestry.com. It took me > less than 5 minutes to find my family but I had a rather easy time of it. > In 1940 we were at Fort Randolph, in the Panama Canal Zone. I started by > selecting 'Panama Canal' from a dropdown list of States followed by the > city > 'Christobal' (other choice Panama City on the Pacific side) and then 'Fort > Randolph' from a third dropdown list. Then I selected the enumerations > District(s) and the very first page had my family, my father being a > Captain > at the time. We were on the same page as the commanding officer. > Although > I was only 6 at the time, I recognize a number of names of the other > officers. We were a small community. > > > > All very exciting! > > Brad Miter > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website > for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Kay During World War I there were three registrations, each with a different span of years. Here's a link to the Genforum posting on the WW1 Draft Age Registrations Requirements: http://genforum.genealogy.com/wwi/messages/6541.html On 4/5/2012 9:07 AM, Kay Brearton wrote: > age limits required for registration for the draft in WWI

Does anyone know the age limits required for registration for the draft in WWI? Kay

During World War I, there were three registrations. The first was on June 5, 1917, registering men between the ages of 21 and 31. The second was on June 5, 1918, registering men who had turned 21 since June 5, 1917 (A supplemental registration on Aug. 24, 1918, registered those becoming 21 since June 5, 1918.). The third registration was held on September 12, 1918, and registered men 18 through 45. So, all men born between 1872 and September 1900 who were not in active military service by June 1917 filled out draft registration cards, whether they were native born, naturalized, or alien --- On Thu, 4/5/12, Kay Brearton <[email protected]> wrote: From: Kay Brearton <[email protected]> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] WWI Draft Registration To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, April 5, 2012, 1:07 PM Does anyone know the age limits required for registration for the draft in WWI? Kay ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**.  See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Irish born grandfather was married in Cohoes in 1911. The marriage license does not give the county of birth, only the country, Ireland. The license does give the name of his father and his mother's maiden name. My Irish born great grandfather died in Troy in 1927. His death certificate does give the county of birth in Ireland. It also gives the name of his father and his mother's maiden name. On Mar 29, 2012, at 6:40 PM, M McAlonie wrote: > > what about a marriage certificate? > > >> >> I concur with Rosemary. I only once heard of someone getting the county in >> Ireland from a death certificate. >> >> Donna >> > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's free on the government archives website, as well. Just use your search engine or 'Google it' by typing in '1940 census'. > From: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 00:16:25 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] 1940 Census > > Congrats Brad! I was in Jamaica New York. I think I'll wait for the every name index! Marianne Arnold > On Apr 2, 2012, at 9:40 PM, Bradford H Miter wrote: > > > The 1940 Census appears to be alive and well on Ancestry.com. It took me > > less than 5 minutes to find my family but I had a rather easy time of it. > > In 1940 we were at Fort Randolph, in the Panama Canal Zone. I started by > > selecting 'Panama Canal' from a dropdown list of States followed by the city > > 'Christobal' (other choice Panama City on the Pacific side) and then 'Fort > > Randolph' from a third dropdown list. Then I selected the enumerations > > District(s) and the very first page had my family, my father being a Captain > > at the time. We were on the same page as the commanding officer. Although > > I was only 6 at the time, I recognize a number of names of the other > > officers. We were a small community. > > > > > > > > All very exciting! > > > > Brad Miter > > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: > > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Congrats Brad! I was in Jamaica New York. I think I'll wait for the every name index! Marianne Arnold On Apr 2, 2012, at 9:40 PM, Bradford H Miter wrote: > The 1940 Census appears to be alive and well on Ancestry.com. It took me > less than 5 minutes to find my family but I had a rather easy time of it. > In 1940 we were at Fort Randolph, in the Panama Canal Zone. I started by > selecting 'Panama Canal' from a dropdown list of States followed by the city > 'Christobal' (other choice Panama City on the Pacific side) and then 'Fort > Randolph' from a third dropdown list. Then I selected the enumerations > District(s) and the very first page had my family, my father being a Captain > at the time. We were on the same page as the commanding officer. Although > I was only 6 at the time, I recognize a number of names of the other > officers. We were a small community. > > > > All very exciting! > > Brad Miter > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The 1940 Census appears to be alive and well on Ancestry.com. It took me less than 5 minutes to find my family but I had a rather easy time of it. In 1940 we were at Fort Randolph, in the Panama Canal Zone. I started by selecting 'Panama Canal' from a dropdown list of States followed by the city 'Christobal' (other choice Panama City on the Pacific side) and then 'Fort Randolph' from a third dropdown list. Then I selected the enumerations District(s) and the very first page had my family, my father being a Captain at the time. We were on the same page as the commanding officer. Although I was only 6 at the time, I recognize a number of names of the other officers. We were a small community. All very exciting! Brad Miter

My grandmother who was born in 1878 in New York City to a well off family was still incensed in the 1930's about NINA signs she saw as a young woman. Jim Owens -----Original Message----- From: Rich Nichols Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 12:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Question There really is no rhyme or reason why one will or will not know where one's ancestor originated from in Ireland, or for anywhere else in Europe for that matter. The majority of our ancestors were very poor and illiterate and as was mentioned in one of the replies - they were just glad to leave their homeland. For those Irish who came just before, during and right after the Famine, they were not really welcomed in America. There were many places that had signs "Irish need not apply." I have come across records where they don't even say Ireland, but United Kingdom or Great Britain. Many Irish went to Liverpool and other places in England for several years before leaving for America or Canada. You also have to consider the person who asked the questions - the forms that were used - the intent of the immigrant themselves. New England records, which followed British record keeping in many instances, seem to be very good record keeping. None are perfect and if you get to ! learn where they are from - yahoo! I have been very fortunate in knowing where almost all of my Irish immigrants are from: Wynne's from Sligo; Boles from Sligo, Conlon from Sligo; Hoey's from Armagh, Clayton's from Cork then London; McCabe's and Flanagan's from Westmeath; O'Melia from Dublin or Mayo; Connolly from Armagh. Only two lines have been elusive - Kennedy and Cunningham, both of who I believe are from Dublin. Rich ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There really is no rhyme or reason why one will or will not know where one's ancestor originated from in Ireland, or for anywhere else in Europe for that matter. The majority of our ancestors were very poor and illiterate and as was mentioned in one of the replies - they were just glad to leave their homeland. For those Irish who came just before, during and right after the Famine, they were not really welcomed in America. There were many places that had signs "Irish need not apply." I have come across records where they don't even say Ireland, but United Kingdom or Great Britain. Many Irish went to Liverpool and other places in England for several years before leaving for America or Canada. You also have to consider the person who asked the questions - the forms that were used - the intent of the immigrant themselves. New England records, which followed British record keeping in many instances, seem to be very good record keeping. None are perfect and if you get to learn where they are from - yahoo! I have been very fortunate in knowing where almost all of my Irish immigrants are from: Wynne's from Sligo; Boles from Sligo, Conlon from Sligo; Hoey's from Armagh, Clayton's from Cork then London; McCabe's and Flanagan's from Westmeath; O'Melia from Dublin or Mayo; Connolly from Armagh. Only two lines have been elusive - Kennedy and Cunningham, both of who I believe are from Dublin. Rich

The National Archives has a record of all military in the Civil War. I found 2 records requesting pensions. They had to list the place of birth, usually town and county and country, all children of the marriage,living and deceased, with dates of birth and death .Complete transcript of their service. Addresses.Also the Naturalization records in certain states lists place of birth and dates. MA has the best records that I found. They go back pretty far.Also lists those who recommend them for citizenship.Date of immigration on census, with a 5 year waiting period, could give the clue to year of naturalization. If you can get to DC, you can actually get the file and copy it.I located the naturalization of several ancestors in Albany NY and it shows the county of origin.MA gave town.Some counties changed names. I found many Irish put Ireland on their tombstones, some added town and Co, but not many did. Depended on their circumstances. Kathleen S.

Somehow I forgot that NARA records for my gg uncle, Thomas Robert Anderson, (while at the US Naval Home in Philadelphia) actually recorded Moycashel, Co. Westmeath as his birth place, on 7 January 1843. We have yet to find any Irish records for him.

The Declaration of Intent often has the county of origin. Lynne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Griffiths Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 10:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] question about info on NYS vitalsstats certifiactes

I found out the county for my GG-Grandfather from his obituary. Jan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: March-29-12 18:29 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] question about info on NYS vitals stats certifiactes I have a bunch of death cert. for that period that just say Ireland, no town, unfortunately. My ones from NY do say a town. Gail In a message dated 3/29/2012 4:39:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Just a curiosity... wondering if anyone on the list has ever seen an instance in a ca 1890-1920 (or any year for that matter) NYS marriage or death certificate of a parent's origin in Ireland has ever been listed? I believe they give the town if in NY, for example my great grandfather's stated his father was born in Cambridge NY. But has anyone ever seen a specific place in Ireland listed for a parent? Thanks, Michael ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In my experience, it is not rare to find that an Irish immigrant's gravestone may list his or her home place in Ireland. I can't say that it's common, but it's not rare. When researching immigrants from Ballykilcline and Kilglass Parish to Rutland, VT, I found that many naturalization filings before 1855 listed parish or townland but filings after the mid-1850s usually named only Ireland. The most unusual place where I found such a record was in court papers following the death of my ggrandfather's cousin in Troy. The papers concerned the cousin's estate and identified his father and homeplace in County Kildare -- Edward Dunn of Mylerstown. Another unusual place where such information was recorded was in a local newspaper story in Connecticut that reported on the 50th wedding anniversary celebration of my immigrant great great grandparents. John Riley was from Roscommon and Catherine McNally was from Monaghan. But the 1903 story told us that she came from the townland of Latton, which is in Aughnamullen West parish. I recently found her father's gravestone in West Warwick, RI, and it says that he came from the parish of Ematris, which is a hop and a skip from Latton. He died in 1849. While reading a 2008 book of Rhode Island history yesterday, I believe I found the McNallys' route to Rhode Island. In "Irish Titan, Irish Toilers," author Scott Molloy reports that "Local manufacturers here recruited a group of skilled Irish bleachers from Ballybay, County Monaghan, for steady jobs in the state's cotton industry just as flax and linen employment flagged in Ulster and became industrialized outside of County Monaghan." Ballybay is very close to Latton and I suspect that Owen McNally was part of a chain migration from that part of Monaghan that must have developed in the wake of that recruitment. Molloy says these immigrants settled in West Warwick and founded St. Mary's Church there, whose church building is now the oldest Catholic church in the state. My Owen McNally is buried in St. Mary's graveyard. Mary Lee Dunn -----Original Message----- From: Donna K. Vaughn <[email protected]> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 30, 2012 6:30 am Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Records that state origin in Ireland I hit pay dirt in the cemetery (if you will pardon the pun). I found the Irish county AND the town on the marker! This was in Ossining, NY. Donna ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You know, I found a record showing "Parish of Legan, County Longford, Ireland" is on the gravestone for my gggrandfather James KEENAN in Mt. Ida Cemetery, Pawling Avenue,Troy. Ed Broecker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna K. Vaughn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Records that state origin in Ireland >I hit pay dirt in the cemetery (if you will pardon the pun). I found the > Irish county AND the town on the marker! This was in Ossining, NY. > > Donna > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website > for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I hit pay dirt in the cemetery (if you will pardon the pun). I found the Irish county AND the town on the marker! This was in Ossining, NY. Donna