I hope to be there. Grace Keegan Bulger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Stone" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:31 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] TIGS meeting > Next TIGS meeting is Thursday, May 17th at 6:30pm. Meeting location is > Moscatello 99 North Greenbush Road Troy, New York. Please let me know if > you > are attending. > > > > Tim > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website > for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks, Terry. I found it also! I found a site by Stephen Morse that calculates the ED's for you. We are cheering on our Washington Nationals and Baltimore Orioles here in the DC area. Bev ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 16:37:22 -0400 From: "Terry Bora" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] 1940's census help To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Bev, they're on ED 42-138 image 14 of 22. I had some spare time while watching my Detroit Tigers make a big comeback against the White Sox. ( : Terry Bora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Littig" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:47 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] 1940's census help Could someone be kind enough to help me find a 1940's census for my relative? John and Margerte (Margaret) Patton listed in 1930 census for Troy in ED 42-106 but I cannot find them on 1940 census. Their address was 503 Seventh Avenue. I can find portions of Seventh Avenue but not theirs. Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks, Bev ======= To post a message to the NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Digest, Vol 7, Issue 89 ***************************************************

thanks K--I just sent in my membership--cannot attend this week's event but will attend as soon as I can. I am fascinated with this. What do you think of a stone that says "Erected by Herself"? It is the tallest and seems good quality stone-polished and not showing much in terms of aging ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of K Mazzrillo [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 6:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Catherine Armstrong Hello Alison, It is not unusual to see conflicting birth dates/ ages. Many immigrants did not know their exact date of birth. Stone carvers made errors and Church records were hand written, easy to make a mistake, and sometimes easy to misread. If you are local, why not consider attending a meeting ? It's always fun and informative. k ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alison Coleman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Catherine Armstrong > no, I had not seen that record but I knew the details except her father's > name. Her gravestone said she was 60 (maybe I read it wrong) and the > church records say 40. > Thank you! > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Alison, It is not unusual to see conflicting birth dates/ ages. Many immigrants did not know their exact date of birth. Stone carvers made errors and Church records were hand written, easy to make a mistake, and sometimes easy to misread. If you are local, why not consider attending a meeting ? It's always fun and informative. k ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alison Coleman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Catherine Armstrong > no, I had not seen that record but I knew the details except her father's > name. Her gravestone said she was 60 (maybe I read it wrong) and the > church records say 40. > Thank you! > >

Bev, they're on ED 42-138 image 14 of 22. I had some spare time while watching my Detroit Tigers make a big comeback against the White Sox. ( : Terry Bora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Littig" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:47 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] 1940's census help Could someone be kind enough to help me find a 1940's census for my relative? John and Margerte (Margaret) Patton listed in 1930 census for Troy in ED 42-106 but I cannot find them on 1940 census. Their address was 503 Seventh Avenue. I can find portions of Seventh Avenue but not theirs. Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks, Bev ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.26, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19640) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

On the 1940 census they would be in either ED 42-1, 42-2, based on the information you provided. Does that help? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bev Littig Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] 1940's census help Could someone be kind enough to help me find a 1940's census for my relative? John and Margerte (Margaret) Patton listed in 1930 census for Troy in ED 42-106 but I cannot find them on 1940 census. Their address was 503 Seventh Avenue. I can find portions of Seventh Avenue but not theirs. Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks, Bev ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could someone be kind enough to help me find a 1940's census for my relative? John and Margerte (Margaret) Patton listed in 1930 census for Troy in ED 42-106 but I cannot find them on 1940 census. Their address was 503 Seventh Avenue. I can find portions of Seventh Avenue but not theirs. Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks, Bev

Hi list, I was looking into my sister's Luke inlaws and found a useful old family history that listed her husbands immigrant ancestor. The family history book was "Hardy and Hardie, Past and Present, 1935", by unknown. It listed at the bottom of the page a source for the Daniel Luke (1801-1883, md Amelia Hardy 1830 Andover Mass.) family that they listed as "140. see Ash MacNeil Moore Traditions" NO author given, or date or place of publication as there were for many of the references. I didn't see any additional list of footnoted sources in the book. Supposedly Daniel Luke's mothers name was Lady Mary MacNeil, and his uncle who financed his travels was Sir John Ash, and the family was from Edinburgh Scotland where Daniel Luke went to university for the ministry. The university had no record of his graduation. Daniel Luke was however born in Antrim, Ireland. I tried to locate this cited source first using Google, then the LOC index, then the LDS catalog but saw nothing close to this including close spellings (Ashe, McNeil) but saw nothing. These were New England families from Massachusetts in the Andover area. I thought maybe the NEHGS ( I am not a member) might have it, but I didn't see it listed, only separate Ash and MacNeil family books listed in their index. Also, apparently the name Luke is affiliated with the Lamont Clan. I also emailed the local Edinburgh Genealogical society to ask. Any one have an idea how to locate this "Ash MacNeil Moore Traditions" source, which I assume is an old hand typed family vanity history from somewhere in New England? Thanks, Michael

no, I had not seen that record but I knew the details except her father's name. Her gravestone said she was 60 (maybe I read it wrong) and the church records say 40. Thank you! ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill & Cathy McGrath [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Catherine Armstrong Hello Alison: Have you seen the record of the death of Catherine on the Rensselaer County Rootsweb site. It shows William as her father's name and the cause of her death. Website address is: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyrensse/troybur5.htm Regards, Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alison Coleman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:27 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Catherine Armstrong > Hello TIGS--I am a new member and happy to find you. I am joining on > behalf of Catherine Armstrong, born in Maguires Bridge Northern Ireland > and died in Troy, Oct. 22, 1881; buried at Mt. Ida. > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chris, this is wonderful! I did not think to look at City directories after her death in 1881. Thank you! Will do the Census research too. ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Marvin [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Catherine Armstrong The 1883 Troy directory shows a John H. Armstrong, a moulder, at 71 Thirteenth Street. The 1878 Troy Directory shows this same man at 405 Fourth Street. The 1880 census shows a John Armstrong, iron moulder, at 403 Fourth Street and a Margaret Armstrong at 405 Fourth Street. There are a number of other family members listed with them. It sounds like this niece could be one of these Armstrongs. You may want to trace them through the censuses (including the state censuses on Pat Connors' website) and see if you find Catherine living with one of them. On May 15, 2012 12:29 PM, "Alison Coleman" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello TIGS--I am a new member and happy to find you. I am joining on > behalf of Catherine Armstrong, born in Maguires Bridge Northern Ireland and > died in Troy, Oct. 22, 1881; buried at Mt. Ida. > > I believe "bumping into" Catherine as I was strolling through the cemetery > will lead me to an interesting story. Her gravestone is the tallest in the > cemetery and has no family on it--just her with the words "Erected by > Herself". I want to find out how and why she came to erect her own > headstone! > > I found some Armstrongs in Maguires Bridge on Facebook and am trying to > connect with them. I have seen her obit and the cemetery death record. All > this is new to me but I am compelled to learn about her. > > >From the obit, I learned that she died at the home of an unnamed niece > who lived at 71 Thirteenth St. in Troy. > > Any ideas about how I can learn more? > > Thanks, Alison > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website > for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Alison: Have you seen the record of the death of Catherine on the Rensselaer County Rootsweb site. It shows William as her father's name and the cause of her death. Website address is: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyrensse/troybur5.htm Regards, Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alison Coleman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:27 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Catherine Armstrong > Hello TIGS--I am a new member and happy to find you. I am joining on > behalf of Catherine Armstrong, born in Maguires Bridge Northern Ireland > and died in Troy, Oct. 22, 1881; buried at Mt. Ida. > >

The 1883 Troy directory shows a John H. Armstrong, a moulder, at 71 Thirteenth Street. The 1878 Troy Directory shows this same man at 405 Fourth Street. The 1880 census shows a John Armstrong, iron moulder, at 403 Fourth Street and a Margaret Armstrong at 405 Fourth Street. There are a number of other family members listed with them. It sounds like this niece could be one of these Armstrongs. You may want to trace them through the censuses (including the state censuses on Pat Connors' website) and see if you find Catherine living with one of them. On May 15, 2012 12:29 PM, "Alison Coleman" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello TIGS--I am a new member and happy to find you. I am joining on > behalf of Catherine Armstrong, born in Maguires Bridge Northern Ireland and > died in Troy, Oct. 22, 1881; buried at Mt. Ida. > > I believe "bumping into" Catherine as I was strolling through the cemetery > will lead me to an interesting story. Her gravestone is the tallest in the > cemetery and has no family on it--just her with the words "Erected by > Herself". I want to find out how and why she came to erect her own > headstone! > > I found some Armstrongs in Maguires Bridge on Facebook and am trying to > connect with them. I have seen her obit and the cemetery death record. All > this is new to me but I am compelled to learn about her. > > >From the obit, I learned that she died at the home of an unnamed niece > who lived at 71 Thirteenth St. in Troy. > > Any ideas about how I can learn more? > > Thanks, Alison > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website > for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello TIGS--I am a new member and happy to find you. I am joining on behalf of Catherine Armstrong, born in Maguires Bridge Northern Ireland and died in Troy, Oct. 22, 1881; buried at Mt. Ida. I believe "bumping into" Catherine as I was strolling through the cemetery will lead me to an interesting story. Her gravestone is the tallest in the cemetery and has no family on it--just her with the words "Erected by Herself". I want to find out how and why she came to erect her own headstone! I found some Armstrongs in Maguires Bridge on Facebook and am trying to connect with them. I have seen her obit and the cemetery death record. All this is new to me but I am compelled to learn about her. >From the obit, I learned that she died at the home of an unnamed niece who lived at 71 Thirteenth St. in Troy. Any ideas about how I can learn more? Thanks, Alison

Hi All, I broke my cardinal rule and sent out subject post without checking all the URLs. One was in error and is corrected and reposted below: www.Godfrey.org - the Godfrey Memorial Library in Conn. Access to files requires membership. Brad Miter

Hi Brad, thanks for the great review. I intend to keep this in my "keeper" mailbox. Also I am a member of the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society. I first heard of TIGS while attending a week of research with them in NYC. They recommended TIGS to anyone with upstate ancestry, especially the Albany and Troy area, and had high praise for the organization and web site. Marianne Arnold On May 12, 2012, at 4:54 PM, Bradford H Miter wrote: > Hi All, > > > > Having nothing better to do yesterday, two friends and I drove down to the > convention center in Cincinnati to take advantage of the 'no admission > charge' for the vendor displays at the NGS convention. There were a good > fifty or more exhibitors - enough to get thoroughly worn out in the three > hours we were there. There were the expected displays by Ancestry.com, > RootsMagic, The Master Genealogist and Family Search. Some less well known > exhibitors were: > > www.PhotoTree.com - Photo Restorers > > www.WikiTree.com - A free place to park your tree with biographical notes, > pictures, etc. Tight security with allowed levels of participation in your > tree. Gedcom upload and download permitted. Only limitation I could think > of was you might have to work at it to update some folks by Gedcom. It > would involve a manual merge after upload. Group participation in updating > encouraged. > > www.Godrey.org - the Godfrey Memorial Library in Conn. Access to files > requires membership. > > www.Shipindex.org - might be good for the deskbound seafarer. 140K records > available free with 2.5 Mil for members. > > > > One item was fascinating to me. Memory Medallions. Small round plaques > with the standard 'square' barcodes that have started appearing. You first > buy (naturally) one of these unique barcode plaques and then enter a > biography and pictures on the company's website. Its record number will be > the same as that of the plaque. You place the small, round plaque on the > headstone and a visitor with a SmartPhone, with camera and web access, takes > a snap of the plaque. The phone's browser then is automatically directed to > the biography, etc. www.memorymedallion.com > > > > The 1940 Census was a biggie at the event. Archives.com, findmypast.com and > FamilySearch.org are combining their efforts to get it indexed while > Ancestry.com is doing it on their own. > > > > I believe it was at the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society that > one of the staff noticed my TIGS (Troy Irish Genealogical Society) T-shirt > and remarked on its fine Web Site. So kudos to the webmaster-mistress and > all the TIGS types who have contributed to the records posted thereto. > > > > Brad Miter > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, Having nothing better to do yesterday, two friends and I drove down to the convention center in Cincinnati to take advantage of the 'no admission charge' for the vendor displays at the NGS convention. There were a good fifty or more exhibitors - enough to get thoroughly worn out in the three hours we were there. There were the expected displays by Ancestry.com, RootsMagic, The Master Genealogist and Family Search. Some less well known exhibitors were: www.PhotoTree.com - Photo Restorers www.WikiTree.com - A free place to park your tree with biographical notes, pictures, etc. Tight security with allowed levels of participation in your tree. Gedcom upload and download permitted. Only limitation I could think of was you might have to work at it to update some folks by Gedcom. It would involve a manual merge after upload. Group participation in updating encouraged. www.Godrey.org - the Godfrey Memorial Library in Conn. Access to files requires membership. www.Shipindex.org - might be good for the deskbound seafarer. 140K records available free with 2.5 Mil for members. One item was fascinating to me. Memory Medallions. Small round plaques with the standard 'square' barcodes that have started appearing. You first buy (naturally) one of these unique barcode plaques and then enter a biography and pictures on the company's website. Its record number will be the same as that of the plaque. You place the small, round plaque on the headstone and a visitor with a SmartPhone, with camera and web access, takes a snap of the plaque. The phone's browser then is automatically directed to the biography, etc. www.memorymedallion.com The 1940 Census was a biggie at the event. Archives.com, findmypast.com and FamilySearch.org are combining their efforts to get it indexed while Ancestry.com is doing it on their own. I believe it was at the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society that one of the staff noticed my TIGS (Troy Irish Genealogical Society) T-shirt and remarked on its fine Web Site. So kudos to the webmaster-mistress and all the TIGS types who have contributed to the records posted thereto. Brad Miter

Next TIGS meeting is Thursday, May 17th at 6:30pm. Meeting location is Moscatello 99 North Greenbush Road Troy, New York. Please let me know if you are attending. Tim

http://www.geograph.org.uk/ Hey listers...check out this site that has cool pictures of Ireland and the UK.

Today, May 10, is the 150th anniversary of Troy's Great Fire of 1862. This mornings Times Union has an interesting story on the fire on page 1 of the Capital Region Section. If anyone is interested in a much more detailed account of this fire, go to the website of the Troy Irish Genealogy Society: www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click on LOCAL HISTORY and then click on THE GREAT FIRE OF 1862 Regards, Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY

Thank you, Joan. Maybe this is why I can never find him on any official site. Yours is probably the correct information. I appreciate your searching! Mary Mary Nigro [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Joan Howe <[email protected]> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 12:59 pm Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Fwd: List of those who served in WW1 Mary, Page 713 of A History of Troy and Rensselaer County, NY by Rutherford ayner lists in "Roll of Honored Dead": Ryan, John M., lieutenant, Co. H, 106th Inf., 27th Div.; killed in action n France, September 12, 1918. I can see that this information does not agree with your information you ent to me. I did check it three times while transcribing. I hope this helps in your research. Joan On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Mary Nigro <[email protected]> wrote: > Joan, I found the wrong address on the TIGS Irish Acts of Kindness lookups list---for both TROY'S 100 YEARS and TROY and RENSSELAER COUNTY. Mary Mary Nigro [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Joan Howe <[email protected]> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Apr 29, 2012 5:24 pm Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Fwd: List of those who served in WW1 Mary, My email address has always been [email protected] Please let me kmow here I am listed as [email protected], and I will have it corrected. I ill see if I can find any records on John M. Ryan. Please give me a couple f days for research. Regards, oan On Sunday, April 29, 2012, Mary Nigro <[email protected]> wrote: To All, The address listed for this lookup is no longer in service. I hope this eaches the correct person for the lookup, Mary McAuliffe Nigro Mary Nigro [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Mary Nigro <[email protected]> To: mrothhowe <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Apr 29, 2012 2:07 pm Subject: List of those who served in WW1 Dear Joan, I saw your name in the Irish lookups list for the book Troy and ensselaer County---A History, and it is said to include the above list. I m looking for John M. Ryan from Troy and the info I have on him is the ollowing: 2nd LT., Company H 166th Infantry 42nd Division Killed on September 13, 1918 I am trying to verify this information since he is listed as having been uried at St. Mary's in Troy, in lot H-69., which I haven't verified yet. m hoping that is listed in the St.Mary's records. Thanks, Joan, Mary McAuliffe Nigro Mary Nigro [email protected] ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website or details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enytigs/> Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' ithout the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ==NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== ime for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for etails: roy Irish Genealogy Society ww.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ <http://ww.rootsweb.com/%7Enytigs/> lick ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enytigs/> Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ==NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== ime for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for etails: roy Irish Genealogy Society ww.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ lick ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message