An interesting article in Sunday's, June 3, 2012 edition of the Times Union made a connection with a name that is also listed in a new Troy Irish Genealogy Society, data base that is currently being worked on. (TIGS website address: www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ ) On Page 6 of the Unwind Section, there is an article "Charming Spot For Tea And More" about a new teahouse located in a farmhouse built by Revolutionary War veteran Ebenezer Hills, Jr. in 1785. The article goes on to say that it became the infamous trysting spot of Van Rensselaer scion Elsie Whipple and handyman Jesse Strang, whose affair led to the murder of Elsie's husband at Cherry Hill Farm. The hanging of Strang in 1827, Albany's last public execution, drew 30,000 spectators. The new TIGS project being worked on is the removals from the old State Street Burial Grounds, now the site of Washington Park in Albany. The "Cherry Hill" mention immediately caught my attention as on Saturday I was working on the removal names of those individuals that were reburied in St. Peter's Episcopal Church Cemetery and I remembered having just typed an entry that mentioned "Cherry Hill" That entry, that I typed on Saturday which makes the connection with the story in today's Times Union, was as follows: John Whipple, age 34, died May 7, 1827. Whipple was the son of a Revolutionary War Officer. He was murdered at Cherry Hill. Thought this email would be of interest to list members. Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY .

I don't believe so, Mimi. I plan to go and I will look for you!!!! Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mimi Nicotina" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Reminder: Strong Celtic Women I have made a special effort,to have a nurse watch my husband in order to be able to attend this....do I need to make a reservation?Mimi Nicotina

What do they do to restore the stone? Kathleen S.

I have made a special effort,to have a nurse watch my husband in order to be able to attend this....do I need to make a reservation?Mimi Nicotina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keefe, Jeanne" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 9:49 AM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Reminder: Strong Celtic Women The Albany Ancient Order of Hibernians will host a free lecture on Thursday, June 7th from 7 – 8:30 PM – Strong Celtic Women? Cash bar. Interesting lecture by Dr. James MacKillop, a scholar of Irish studies. All are welcome. Address is 375 Ontario Street, Albany. This lecture is part of the NYS Council for the Humanities and Historic St. Agnes Cemetery’s summer lecture series. Kelly Grimaldi Historian St. Agnes Cemetery 48 Cemetery Avenue Menands, NY 12204 (518) 463-0134 www.CapitalDistrictCemeteries.org<http://www.capitaldistrictcemeteries.org/> Find us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/AlbanyDiocesanCemeteries> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2425/5040 - Release Date: 06/02/12

The Albany Ancient Order of Hibernians will host a free lecture on Thursday, June 7th from 7 – 8:30 PM – Strong Celtic Women? Cash bar. Interesting lecture by Dr. James MacKillop, a scholar of Irish studies. All are welcome. Address is 375 Ontario Street, Albany. This lecture is part of the NYS Council for the Humanities and Historic St. Agnes Cemetery’s summer lecture series. Kelly Grimaldi Historian St. Agnes Cemetery 48 Cemetery Avenue Menands, NY 12204 (518) 463-0134 www.CapitalDistrictCemeteries.org<http://www.capitaldistrictcemeteries.org/> Find us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/AlbanyDiocesanCemeteries>

This is interesting..I have been reading pages and pages of barely-legible surrogate court records (thankfully her will was contested by one of her heirs, so there were depositions, etc) and it looks like Catherine's mom died when she was little and to some extent, she was raised by her brother, who was the executor of her will. The deciphering is really, really slow and painful but I am getting the notion that she came here somehow at an early age and then sent for her brother and paid his way. She had mortgages on 2 Troy houses and paid off her sister's mortgage in Michigan--and was a domestic! In 1870 the census has her as a domestic for the Warren family in Troy. They moved to Cooperstown (or maybe had another house there?) and she was there for a few years before becoming ill with cancer and moving in with her niece (last name seems to be Folmsbee) at 71 Thirteenth St. So she had $1700 in Troy Savings and mortgages, paid for her own funeral, burial and monument (not with the $1700), the hearse and 7 carriages, etc., specified that her estate would pay for headstones at $100 each for 3 or 4 relatives--and then there is the contested $600 of clothes and jewelry. An interesting and resourceful woman indeed!! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kathleen Secker Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 5:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Catherine Armstrong I just went through Pat Connors cemetery sight for Lansingburg's Old Catholic Cemetery for McGuire and I found under that name erected by P. McGuire in memory of his late wife Catharine McGuire alias (!)Armstrong native of Ireland Co. Farmannagh d.July 2 1832 age 28 and then found at Mt Ida your Catharine Armstrong of McGuire's Bridge Co. Fermannagh died Oct 22 1881 age 60 erected by herself. I'll bet they are related! And the Mt Ida lady was out to show the McGuires a thing or two. At any rate I had a good laugh. Thanks again Pat for the site. Kathleen S ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just went through Pat Connors cemetery sight for Lansingburg's Old Catholic Cemetery for McGuire and I found under that name erected by P. McGuire in memory of his late wife Catharine McGuire alias (!)Armstrong native of Ireland Co. Farmannagh d.July 2 1832 age 28 and then found at Mt Ida your Catharine Armstrong of McGuire's Bridge Co. Fermannagh died Oct 22 1881 age 60 erected by herself. I'll bet they are related! And the Mt Ida lady was out to show the McGuires a thing or two. At any rate I had a good laugh. Thanks again Pat for the site. Kathleen S

John: Prior to your Troy trip you should take a look at the article Tips on Genealogy Research In Troy, NY which is on the TIGS website under RESOURCES. Bill McGrath Clifton Park, N Y -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of French_Teacher Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 7:06 AM To: Troy Irish Genealogy Society Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] June meeting Hello, we will be in Troy June 3 to 8 doing some research. Is there a TIGS meeting scheduled for that week? Thank you. John ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, Sorry but our meetings are on the third Thursday in the month. Is there any information we can help you find while you are here. We might be able to point you in the right direction. Tim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of French_Teacher Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 7:06 AM To: Troy Irish Genealogy Society Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] June meeting Hello, we will be in Troy June 3 to 8 doing some research.  Is there a TIGS meeting scheduled for that week? Thank you. John ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you very much, Ed. Your time and effort are sincerely appreciated.

Well done! Thanks, Ed. ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2425/5034 - Release Date: 05/30/12

Lynn, and all listers, I checked at St. Joseph's rectory and found out that the school records were sent to Sacred Heart School for safekeeping/storage when St. Joseph's school closed. I also inquired about other records. They have not received any thing from the firm that was to publish the transcribed documents. According to Bill McGrath there has been some delay in the publishing process due to some deaths in the chain of command at the publishing company. The church secretary told me the current procedure for researching issues is to write out what exactly you are looking for and supply her with as much information as you can relative to topic, and any dates and specific names. She will do the research in the documents which are no longer available to the public. I have not yet tried Sacred Heart School but I will over the next couple of days attempt to find out what records they have and how accessible those records are. Ed Dyer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynn Grice Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 8:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] St Joseph's Academy Does anyone know offhand whether St. Joseph's in South Troy would have lists of the graduating classes from St. Joseph's Academy? I have a group photo dated 1931 and believe my uncle is in it but I'd like to confirm. ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Morning Ed: Nice to hear from you and hope to see you at a future meeting. The American-Canadian group photocopied all the marriage and baptism records for St. Joseph's in Troy several years ago. They also copied records from the closed churches of St. Lawrence's (German Parish) and Holy Trinity (Polish Parish) which are housed at St. Joseph's. Transcribing of the data is done in New Hampshire and then is subject to two different proof readings. However, according to Kay Brearton, one of the volunteers working on St. Joseph's records, "a major player in New Hampshire passed away not too long ago and they are in a transitional phase so at this point we don't know when St. Joseph's records will be completed and sent to the printers." It is TIGS intention to purchase a set of the books and donate them to the Troy Library once they are published. Regards, Bill > Stan, I'll be happy to inquire. I do recall that a few years ago when I > was > able to be more active in TIGS, a Canadian publisher arranged for the > copying/transcribing of some records which were to be published and made > available to TIGS. I don't know if that project was ever completed. Bill > McGrath may have some information on that or our own meeting minutes may > show something. I have been inactive for several years due to conflicting > schedules. > I still read all the posts and I am happy to help out when I can. > Ed > >

Thanks, Ed! We would love for you to drop by a TIGS meeting when you can! You are missed by the group! Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Dyer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] St Joseph's Academy > Stan, I'll be happy to inquire. I do recall that a few years ago when I > was > able to be more active in TIGS, a Canadian publisher arranged for the > copying/transcribing of some records which were to be published and made > available to TIGS. I don't know if that project was ever completed. Bill > McGrath may have some information on that or our own meeting minutes may > show something. I have been inactive for several years due to conflicting > schedules. > I still read all the posts and I am happy to help out when I can. > Ed >

Hello, we will be in Troy June 3 to 8 doing some research.  Is there a TIGS meeting scheduled for that week? Thank you. John

Stan, I'll be happy to inquire. I do recall that a few years ago when I was able to be more active in TIGS, a Canadian publisher arranged for the copying/transcribing of some records which were to be published and made available to TIGS. I don't know if that project was ever completed. Bill McGrath may have some information on that or our own meeting minutes may show something. I have been inactive for several years due to conflicting schedules. I still read all the posts and I am happy to help out when I can. Ed -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stan Broderick Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 1:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] St Joseph's Academy Ed, on your trip, could you be so kind as to ascertain what other series of records are presently available for research at St. Joseph's? Last I was told at the parish office (several years ago), the diocese had sealed the baptismal-marriage records due to deterioration. Hoping that has changed. Cemetery plot owner records and interment records are also an interest. Would be much obliged. - Stan Broderick Derby, NY -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ed Dyer" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 9:58 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] St Joseph's Academy > I don't know, but I would be happy to go to the rectory on Wednesday to > see where the school records were sent when the school closed. Ed ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5028 - Release Date: 05/28/12 ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ed, on your trip, could you be so kind as to ascertain what other series of records are presently available for research at St. Joseph's? Last I was told at the parish office (several years ago), the diocese had sealed the baptismal-marriage records due to deterioration. Hoping that has changed. Cemetery plot owner records and interment records are also an interest. Would be much obliged. - Stan Broderick Derby, NY -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ed Dyer" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 9:58 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] St Joseph's Academy > I don't know, but I would be happy to go to the rectory on Wednesday to > see where the school records were sent when the school closed. Ed ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5028 - Release Date: 05/28/12

That would be awesome, Ed. I have often wondered the same thing. Can you post your findings here? Thank you ,Pam > From: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 09:58:28 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] St Joseph's Academy > > I don't know, but I would be happy to go to the rectory on Wednesday to see where the school records were sent when the school closed. Ed > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 28, 2012, at 8:34 AM, "Lynn Grice" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Does anyone know offhand whether St. Joseph's in South Troy would have lists > > of the graduating classes from St. Joseph's Academy? I have a group photo > > dated 1931 and believe my uncle is in it but I'd like to confirm. > > > > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: > > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know, but I would be happy to go to the rectory on Wednesday to see where the school records were sent when the school closed. Ed Sent from my iPhone On May 28, 2012, at 8:34 AM, "Lynn Grice" <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anyone know offhand whether St. Joseph's in South Troy would have lists > of the graduating classes from St. Joseph's Academy? I have a group photo > dated 1931 and believe my uncle is in it but I'd like to confirm. > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know offhand whether St. Joseph's in South Troy would have lists of the graduating classes from St. Joseph's Academy? I have a group photo dated 1931 and believe my uncle is in it but I'd like to confirm.