It is easier for me to switch you from Digest than to tell you how to do it. Done... Brad Miter Admin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Reilly Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] NYC Vital Records  Hi is anyone by any chance going to down to the NYC Vital Records office? I have a few records that need looking up but a couple need to be searched more than what's on www.italiangen.org.  Also how do I switch from the Digest form to the regular mailing list? -Peter Reilly [email protected] ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary Lee, my Dunns had a Lawrence Behan who was the son of Ellen Dunn Behan.....I have wondered if this was the same man Does anyone know anything about the Behans who settled in Troy in 1902? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mary Lee Dunn Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Snippets from, The Irish World, newspaper Thanks for the snippets, Bill and Pat. RE: "Adjutant Philip J Ryan of the Hibernian Rifles called the assemblinge to order, and Dennis Maloney was made chairman." Does anyone know who Dennis Maloney was? Farther down, the item mentions a Lawrence Behan, who belonged to the AOH's glee club. I think he may have married one of my Dunns. Thanks, Mary Lee Dunn -----Original Message----- From: Bill & Cathy McGrath <[email protected]> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc <[email protected]>; nyrensse <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 1:17 pm Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Snippets from, The Irish World, newspaper Pat Connors recently posted some items from The Irish World newspaper. List members may be interested in the following comments on the October 24, 1903 article on the centennial of the martyrdom of Robert Emmet that Pat posted: 1. The obituary for my great grandfather, Timothy O'Connor, published in the Troy Times on Thursday Afternoon, August 8, 1912, page 5 states that "Mr. O'Connor was a member of the old Robert Emmet Association. 2. Robert Emmet (1778-1803) was an Irish orator and patriot hanged and beheaded by the English on September 20, 1803. His speech to the court on the eve of his execution included the following famous lines: "Let no man write my epitaph: for as no man who knows my motives dare now vindicate them, let not prejudice or ignorance asperse them. Let them and me repose in obscurity and peace, and my tomb remain uninscribed, until other times, and other men, can do justice to my character; when my country takes her place among the nations of the earth, then, and not till then, let my epitaph be written" 3. On August 18, 1876, the U. S. Whaling Ship, the Catalpa, sailed into New York Harbor with six famous Irish prisoners that were rescued from Australia. The Robert Emmet Association of Troy, New York, fired a salute. (From Page 569, The Great Shame - And The Triumph Of The Irish In The English-Speaking World, by Thomas Keneally. 4. On our November 2006 trip to Ireland we asked a Garda officer on Grafton Street in Dublin about a good local pub and he suggested the Brazen Head which is the oldest pub in Ireland. Got their license in 1661 but a pub has been on that spot where they are located since 1198. The Garda officer also mentioned that Robert Emmet scratched his name in one of the windows upstairs in the pub. This intrigued me as my great grandfather, Timothy O'Connor (1836-1912) was a member of the Robert Emmet Association of Troy, NY. There was no question about where we were having dinner! Had a great meal at the Brazen Head and did see Emmet's name on the windowpane. 5. A number of years ago while I was transcribing the Burden Iron Company payroll records at the Rensselaer County Historical Society in Troy, the staff there were discussing a Troy, New York document on the Robert Emmet Association that was for sale on the internet. They were successful in their bid to get the document for their collection. Regards, Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY Pat Connor's Posting from the Irish World Oct 24, 1903 TROY. The centenneal of the martyrdome of Robert Emmet was celebrated at Douchy Hall by all the divisions of the A. O. H. in this city. Adjutant Philip J Ryan of the Hibernian Rifles called the assemblinge to order, and Dennis Maloney was made chairman. State President M.J. Slattery, of Albany, gave an address upon the life and character of Robert Emmet. The glee club of Div. 6, A.O.H. consisting of James H Morrissey, John JO'Brien, Lawrence T Behan, Thomas F Murnane, James F Lyman, Kyran J Devery and William T Ranney, rendered vocal selections after which James J Barrettof Syracuse, spoke about the life and death of Robert Emmet. Vocal solos werealso given by James H Lyman, K J Devery, Thomas F Murnane and J H Morrissisey with D.D. Crough at the piano. The meeting was brought to a close by all rising and singing, 'God Save Ireland.' ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

 Hi is anyone by any chance going to down to the NYC Vital Records office? I have a few records that need looking up but a couple need to be searched more than what's on www.italiangen.org.  Also how do I switch from the Digest form to the regular mailing list? -Peter Reilly [email protected]

To view this new data base, go to the Troy Irish Genealogy website - www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ click on PROJECTS and then click on NAIL FACTORY CEMETERY. There are over 700 names in this new data base, most of them young children. In some cases the cause of death is shown. The Sixth Ward Cemetery in Troy, known also as the Nail Factory Cemetery and the Iron Works Cemetery, was opened in 1836. As reported by Arthur James Weise on page 178, in his book Troy's One Hundred Years - 1789-1889" published in 1891; "The Sixth Ward Cemetery, on the west side of Vandenburgh Avenue was conveyed by the Troy Iron and Nail Factory Company to the city on May 17, 1836 for a burial place for the use of the people in that part of the city. It comprises about an acre of land." Despite numerous inquiries, no records on when this cemetery closed and on where the remains were removed to, have been discovered. The only remaining symbol from the cemetery is a large concrete cross laying on the former cemetery grounds area which is now the property of Hudson Valley Community College. Previously, the grounds were the site of the Franciscan Monastery which acquired the property from the Burden family which owned the Troy Iron and Nail Factory Company. The following description of the Troy Iron and Nail Factory Company explains that the complex was comprised of the factory and related building, extensive housing for the workers and the cemetery where many of the factory employees and their children were buried. The purpose of the company, disclosed in the articles of incorporation, was the manufacture of bar-iron, steel, nail-rods, hoop-iron, sheet-copper, machinery, tools and implements. The works are described in Spafford's Gazetteer of the State of New York, published in 1824 "Among the manufacturing establishments of this town, the Troy Iron and Nail Factory claims distinguished notice. It stands on the Wynantskill, in the 6th ward, 2 1/2 miles s. of the city, and is owned by an incorporated company, principally in Albany. These works embrace a rolling and slitting mill, a very extensive nail factory, sundry shops for other mechanical business, and about 50 houses, making a busy sequestered manufacturing village.... The Nail Factory is a stone edifice of great extent" There are no complete records of interments in the Nail Factory Cemetery. The records in this data base are mostly compiled from a listing found at the Troy Library. This listing of burials was compiled by Frances D. Broderick and Warren F. Broderick, Lansingburgh, New York dated May 1977. The Broderick's compiled the records from the Old Troy Burial Books at Troy City Hall. Prior to 1850, the city owned burial grounds were usually all called "the Corporate Grounds" and for this reason it is impossible to identify the early Nail Factory burials. Starting in 1850, the burial books identified the cemetery by name, and those records mentioning the Nail Factory Cemetery were copied for the Broderick's document. Several additional burials at the Nail Factory Cemetery that were not on the Broderick's list were obtained from records on the Rootsweb Rensselaer County website. This website, run by Lin Van Buren from London, is working on a major transcription project involving the Troy Burial Records. To see some of the completed work on this project go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyrensse/cemetery.htm Many of the records of interments at the Nail Factory Cemetery indicate that the person "resided at the Nail Factory" In addition to the factory housing at the Nail Factory, this statement seems to have covered a whole area or section of Troy generally around the Factory itself. Of note also, is that the great bulk of these interment records are for small children. It may also be of interest to know that the 169th Regiment, New York Infantry organized in 1862 had a Company I principally recruited from Troy which was also known as the Nail Factory Company.) Regards, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY

Excuse me, Rosemary, for calling you Kathleen. I was trying to address some mail to someone named Kathleen at the same time. Mary Lee -----Original Message----- From: Rosemary Kopczynski <[email protected]> To: '[email protected]' <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 2:05 pm Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Snippets from, The Irish World, newspaper Mary Lee, my Dunns had a Lawrence Behan who was the son of Ellen Dunn Behan.....I have wondered if this was the same man Does anyone know anything about the Behans who settled in Troy in 1902? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mary Lee Dunn Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Snippets from, The Irish World, newspaper Thanks for the snippets, Bill and Pat. RE: "Adjutant Philip J Ryan of the Hibernian Rifles called the assemblinge to order, and Dennis Maloney was made chairman." Does anyone know who Dennis Maloney was? Farther down, the item mentions a Lawrence Behan, who belonged to the AOH's glee club. I think he may have married one of my Dunns. Thanks, Mary Lee Dunn -----Original Message----- From: Bill & Cathy McGrath <[email protected]> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc <[email protected]>; nyrensse <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 1:17 pm Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Snippets from, The Irish World, newspaper Pat Connors recently posted some items from The Irish World newspaper. List members may be interested in the following comments on the October 24, 1903 article on the centennial of the martyrdom of Robert Emmet that Pat posted: 1. The obituary for my great grandfather, Timothy O'Connor, published in the Troy Times on Thursday Afternoon, August 8, 1912, page 5 states that "Mr. O'Connor was a member of the old Robert Emmet Association. 2. Robert Emmet (1778-1803) was an Irish orator and patriot hanged and beheaded by the English on September 20, 1803. His speech to the court on the eve of his execution included the following famous lines: "Let no man write my epitaph: for as no man who knows my motives dare now vindicate them, let not prejudice or ignorance asperse them. Let them and me repose in obscurity and peace, and my tomb remain uninscribed, until other times, and other men, can do justice to my character; when my country takes her place among the nations of the earth, then, and not till then, let my epitaph be written" 3. On August 18, 1876, the U. S. Whaling Ship, the Catalpa, sailed into New York Harbor with six famous Irish prisoners that were rescued from Australia. The Robert Emmet Association of Troy, New York, fired a salute. (From Page 569, The Great Shame - And The Triumph Of The Irish In The English-Speaking World, by Thomas Keneally. 4. On our November 2006 trip to Ireland we asked a Garda officer on Grafton Street in Dublin about a good local pub and he suggested the Brazen Head which is the oldest pub in Ireland. Got their license in 1661 but a pub has been on that spot where they are located since 1198. The Garda officer also mentioned that Robert Emmet scratched his name in one of the windows upstairs in the pub. This intrigued me as my great grandfather, Timothy O'Connor (1836-1912) was a member of the Robert Emmet Association of Troy, NY. There was no question about where we were having dinner! Had a great meal at the Brazen Head and did see Emmet's name on the windowpane. 5. A number of years ago while I was transcribing the Burden Iron Company payroll records at the Rensselaer County Historical Society in Troy, the staff there were discussing a Troy, New York document on the Robert Emmet Association that was for sale on the internet. They were successful in their bid to get the document for their collection. Regards, Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY Pat Connor's Posting from the Irish World Oct 24, 1903 TROY. The centenneal of the martyrdome of Robert Emmet was celebrated at Douchy Hall by all the divisions of the A. O. H. in this city. Adjutant Philip J Ryan of the Hibernian Rifles called the assemblinge to order, and Dennis Maloney was made chairman. State President M.J. Slattery, of Albany, gave an address upon the life and character of Robert Emmet. The glee club of Div. 6, A.O.H. consisting of James H Morrissey, John JO'Brien, Lawrence T Behan, Thomas F Murnane, James F Lyman, Kyran J Devery and William T Ranney, rendered vocal selections after which James J Barrettof Syracuse, spoke about the life and death of Robert Emmet. Vocal solos werealso given by James H Lyman, K J Devery, Thomas F Murnane and J H Morrissisey with D.D. Crough at the piano. The meeting was brought to a close by all rising and singing, 'God Save Ireland.' ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. 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Kathleen, I think it is the same man but I don't recall how I came by that view. Mary Lee -----Original Message----- From: Rosemary Kopczynski <[email protected]> To: '[email protected]' <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 2:05 pm Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Snippets from, The Irish World, newspaper Mary Lee, my Dunns had a Lawrence Behan who was the son of Ellen Dunn Behan.....I have wondered if this was the same man Does anyone know anything about the Behans who settled in Troy in 1902? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mary Lee Dunn Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Snippets from, The Irish World, newspaper Thanks for the snippets, Bill and Pat. RE: "Adjutant Philip J Ryan of the Hibernian Rifles called the assemblinge to order, and Dennis Maloney was made chairman." Does anyone know who Dennis Maloney was? Farther down, the item mentions a Lawrence Behan, who belonged to the AOH's glee club. I think he may have married one of my Dunns. Thanks, Mary Lee Dunn -----Original Message----- From: Bill & Cathy McGrath <[email protected]> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc <[email protected]>; nyrensse <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 1:17 pm Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Snippets from, The Irish World, newspaper Pat Connors recently posted some items from The Irish World newspaper. List members may be interested in the following comments on the October 24, 1903 article on the centennial of the martyrdom of Robert Emmet that Pat posted: 1. The obituary for my great grandfather, Timothy O'Connor, published in the Troy Times on Thursday Afternoon, August 8, 1912, page 5 states that "Mr. O'Connor was a member of the old Robert Emmet Association. 2. Robert Emmet (1778-1803) was an Irish orator and patriot hanged and beheaded by the English on September 20, 1803. His speech to the court on the eve of his execution included the following famous lines: "Let no man write my epitaph: for as no man who knows my motives dare now vindicate them, let not prejudice or ignorance asperse them. Let them and me repose in obscurity and peace, and my tomb remain uninscribed, until other times, and other men, can do justice to my character; when my country takes her place among the nations of the earth, then, and not till then, let my epitaph be written" 3. On August 18, 1876, the U. S. Whaling Ship, the Catalpa, sailed into New York Harbor with six famous Irish prisoners that were rescued from Australia. The Robert Emmet Association of Troy, New York, fired a salute. (From Page 569, The Great Shame - And The Triumph Of The Irish In The English-Speaking World, by Thomas Keneally. 4. On our November 2006 trip to Ireland we asked a Garda officer on Grafton Street in Dublin about a good local pub and he suggested the Brazen Head which is the oldest pub in Ireland. Got their license in 1661 but a pub has been on that spot where they are located since 1198. The Garda officer also mentioned that Robert Emmet scratched his name in one of the windows upstairs in the pub. This intrigued me as my great grandfather, Timothy O'Connor (1836-1912) was a member of the Robert Emmet Association of Troy, NY. There was no question about where we were having dinner! Had a great meal at the Brazen Head and did see Emmet's name on the windowpane. 5. A number of years ago while I was transcribing the Burden Iron Company payroll records at the Rensselaer County Historical Society in Troy, the staff there were discussing a Troy, New York document on the Robert Emmet Association that was for sale on the internet. They were successful in their bid to get the document for their collection. Regards, Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY Pat Connor's Posting from the Irish World Oct 24, 1903 TROY. The centenneal of the martyrdome of Robert Emmet was celebrated at Douchy Hall by all the divisions of the A. O. H. in this city. Adjutant Philip J Ryan of the Hibernian Rifles called the assemblinge to order, and Dennis Maloney was made chairman. State President M.J. Slattery, of Albany, gave an address upon the life and character of Robert Emmet. The glee club of Div. 6, A.O.H. consisting of James H Morrissey, John JO'Brien, Lawrence T Behan, Thomas F Murnane, James F Lyman, Kyran J Devery and William T Ranney, rendered vocal selections after which James J Barrettof Syracuse, spoke about the life and death of Robert Emmet. Vocal solos werealso given by James H Lyman, K J Devery, Thomas F Murnane and J H Morrissisey with D.D. Crough at the piano. The meeting was brought to a close by all rising and singing, 'God Save Ireland.' ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. 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Thanks for the snippets, Bill and Pat. RE: "Adjutant Philip J Ryan of the Hibernian Rifles called the assemblinge to order, and Dennis Maloney was made chairman." Does anyone know who Dennis Maloney was? Farther down, the item mentions a Lawrence Behan, who belonged to the AOH's glee club. I think he may have married one of my Dunns. Thanks, Mary Lee Dunn -----Original Message----- From: Bill & Cathy McGrath <[email protected]> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc <[email protected]>; nyrensse <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 1:17 pm Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Snippets from, The Irish World, newspaper Pat Connors recently posted some items from The Irish World newspaper. List members may be interested in the following comments on the October 24, 1903 article on the centennial of the martyrdom of Robert Emmet that Pat posted: 1. The obituary for my great grandfather, Timothy O'Connor, published in the Troy Times on Thursday Afternoon, August 8, 1912, page 5 states that "Mr. O'Connor was a member of the old Robert Emmet Association. 2. Robert Emmet (1778-1803) was an Irish orator and patriot hanged and beheaded by the English on September 20, 1803. His speech to the court on the eve of his execution included the following famous lines: "Let no man write my epitaph: for as no man who knows my motives dare now vindicate them, let not prejudice or ignorance asperse them. Let them and me repose in obscurity and peace, and my tomb remain uninscribed, until other times, and other men, can do justice to my character; when my country takes her place among the nations of the earth, then, and not till then, let my epitaph be written" 3. On August 18, 1876, the U. S. Whaling Ship, the Catalpa, sailed into New York Harbor with six famous Irish prisoners that were rescued from Australia. The Robert Emmet Association of Troy, New York, fired a salute. (From Page 569, The Great Shame - And The Triumph Of The Irish In The English-Speaking World, by Thomas Keneally. 4. On our November 2006 trip to Ireland we asked a Garda officer on Grafton Street in Dublin about a good local pub and he suggested the Brazen Head which is the oldest pub in Ireland. Got their license in 1661 but a pub has been on that spot where they are located since 1198. The Garda officer also mentioned that Robert Emmet scratched his name in one of the windows upstairs in the pub. This intrigued me as my great grandfather, Timothy O'Connor (1836-1912) was a member of the Robert Emmet Association of Troy, NY. There was no question about where we were having dinner! Had a great meal at the Brazen Head and did see Emmet's name on the windowpane. 5. A number of years ago while I was transcribing the Burden Iron Company payroll records at the Rensselaer County Historical Society in Troy, the staff there were discussing a Troy, New York document on the Robert Emmet Association that was for sale on the internet. They were successful in their bid to get the document for their collection. Regards, Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY Pat Connor's Posting from the Irish World Oct 24, 1903 TROY. The centenneal of the martyrdome of Robert Emmet was celebrated at Douchy Hall by all the divisions of the A. O. H. in this city. Adjutant Philip J Ryan of the Hibernian Rifles called the assemblinge to order, and Dennis Maloney was made chairman. State President M.J. Slattery, of Albany, gave an address upon the life and character of Robert Emmet. The glee club of Div. 6, A.O.H. consisting of James H Morrissey, John JO'Brien, Lawrence T Behan, Thomas F Murnane, James F Lyman, Kyran J Devery and William T Ranney, rendered vocal selections after which James J Barrettof Syracuse, spoke about the life and death of Robert Emmet. Vocal solos werealso given by James H Lyman, K J Devery, Thomas F Murnane and J H Morrissisey with D.D. Crough at the piano. The meeting was brought to a close by all rising and singing, 'God Save Ireland.' ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

this made me think about the Lower East Side Tenement Museum. It is a wonderful and inspiring trip into the past--they have a Facebook page for those of you who use FB ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill & Cathy McGrath [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:18 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Snippets from, The Irish World, newspaper Pat Connors recently posted some items from The Irish World newspaper. List members may be interested in the following comments on the October 24, 1903 article on the centennial of the martyrdom of Robert Emmet that Pat posted: 1. The obituary for my great grandfather, Timothy O'Connor, published in the Troy Times on Thursday Afternoon, August 8, 1912, page 5 states that "Mr. O'Connor was a member of the old Robert Emmet Association. 2. Robert Emmet (1778-1803) was an Irish orator and patriot hanged and beheaded by the English on September 20, 1803. His speech to the court on the eve of his execution included the following famous lines: "Let no man write my epitaph: for as no man who knows my motives dare now vindicate them, let not prejudice or ignorance asperse them. Let them and me repose in obscurity and peace, and my tomb remain uninscribed, until other times, and other men, can do justice to my character; when my country takes her place among the nations of the earth, then, and not till then, let my epitaph be written" 3. On August 18, 1876, the U. S. Whaling Ship, the Catalpa, sailed into New York Harbor with six famous Irish prisoners that were rescued from Australia. The Robert Emmet Association of Troy, New York, fired a salute. (From Page 569, The Great Shame - And The Triumph Of The Irish In The English-Speaking World, by Thomas Keneally. 4. On our November 2006 trip to Ireland we asked a Garda officer on Grafton Street in Dublin about a good local pub and he suggested the Brazen Head which is the oldest pub in Ireland. Got their license in 1661 but a pub has been on that spot where they are located since 1198. The Garda officer also mentioned that Robert Emmet scratched his name in one of the windows upstairs in the pub. This intrigued me as my great grandfather, Timothy O'Connor (1836-1912) was a member of the Robert Emmet Association of Troy, NY. There was no question about where we were having dinner! Had a great meal at the Brazen Head and did see Emmet's name on the windowpane. 5. A number of years ago while I was transcribing the Burden Iron Company payroll records at the Rensselaer County Historical Society in Troy, the staff there were discussing a Troy, New York document on the Robert Emmet Association that was for sale on the internet. They were successful in their bid to get the document for their collection. Regards, Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY Pat Connor's Posting from the Irish World Oct 24, 1903 TROY. The centenneal of the martyrdome of Robert Emmet was celebrated at Douchy Hall by all the divisions of the A. O. H. in this city. Adjutant Philip J Ryan of the Hibernian Rifles called the assemblinge to order, and Dennis Maloney was made chairman. State President M.J. Slattery, of Albany, gave an address upon the life and character of Robert Emmet. The glee club of Div. 6, A.O.H. consisting of James H Morrissey, John JO'Brien, Lawrence T Behan, Thomas F Murnane, James F Lyman, Kyran J Devery and William T Ranney, rendered vocal selections after which James J Barrettof Syracuse, spoke about the life and death of Robert Emmet. Vocal solos werealso given by James H Lyman, K J Devery, Thomas F Murnane and J H Morrissisey with D.D. Crough at the piano. The meeting was brought to a close by all rising and singing, 'God Save Ireland.' ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat Connors recently posted some items from The Irish World newspaper. List members may be interested in the following comments on the October 24, 1903 article on the centennial of the martyrdom of Robert Emmet that Pat posted: 1. The obituary for my great grandfather, Timothy O'Connor, published in the Troy Times on Thursday Afternoon, August 8, 1912, page 5 states that "Mr. O'Connor was a member of the old Robert Emmet Association. 2. Robert Emmet (1778-1803) was an Irish orator and patriot hanged and beheaded by the English on September 20, 1803. His speech to the court on the eve of his execution included the following famous lines: "Let no man write my epitaph: for as no man who knows my motives dare now vindicate them, let not prejudice or ignorance asperse them. Let them and me repose in obscurity and peace, and my tomb remain uninscribed, until other times, and other men, can do justice to my character; when my country takes her place among the nations of the earth, then, and not till then, let my epitaph be written" 3. On August 18, 1876, the U. S. Whaling Ship, the Catalpa, sailed into New York Harbor with six famous Irish prisoners that were rescued from Australia. The Robert Emmet Association of Troy, New York, fired a salute. (From Page 569, The Great Shame - And The Triumph Of The Irish In The English-Speaking World, by Thomas Keneally. 4. On our November 2006 trip to Ireland we asked a Garda officer on Grafton Street in Dublin about a good local pub and he suggested the Brazen Head which is the oldest pub in Ireland. Got their license in 1661 but a pub has been on that spot where they are located since 1198. The Garda officer also mentioned that Robert Emmet scratched his name in one of the windows upstairs in the pub. This intrigued me as my great grandfather, Timothy O'Connor (1836-1912) was a member of the Robert Emmet Association of Troy, NY. There was no question about where we were having dinner! Had a great meal at the Brazen Head and did see Emmet's name on the windowpane. 5. A number of years ago while I was transcribing the Burden Iron Company payroll records at the Rensselaer County Historical Society in Troy, the staff there were discussing a Troy, New York document on the Robert Emmet Association that was for sale on the internet. They were successful in their bid to get the document for their collection. Regards, Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY Pat Connor's Posting from the Irish World Oct 24, 1903 TROY. The centenneal of the martyrdome of Robert Emmet was celebrated at Douchy Hall by all the divisions of the A. O. H. in this city. Adjutant Philip J Ryan of the Hibernian Rifles called the assemblinge to order, and Dennis Maloney was made chairman. State President M.J. Slattery, of Albany, gave an address upon the life and character of Robert Emmet. The glee club of Div. 6, A.O.H. consisting of James H Morrissey, John JO'Brien, Lawrence T Behan, Thomas F Murnane, James F Lyman, Kyran J Devery and William T Ranney, rendered vocal selections after which James J Barrettof Syracuse, spoke about the life and death of Robert Emmet. Vocal solos werealso given by James H Lyman, K J Devery, Thomas F Murnane and J H Morrissisey with D.D. Crough at the piano. The meeting was brought to a close by all rising and singing, 'God Save Ireland.'

Great, Kathleen! We look forward to seeing you at the meeting! Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Secker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 3:30 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] July 19 meeting >I will be in Troy on July 19 and would like to join you for the >dinner/meeting. I will be at the Hilton Garden Inn, > but have directions to Moscatello's. Kathleen Secker > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website > for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

in the Albany Daily Evening Times May 21, 1880. I found a death notice of Mary McCarty died on May 19th, widow of Daniel, daughter of Cornelius and Ellen McCarty this is all true, Mary was the daughter of Ellen's first husband Wm. Sullivan, he drowned before Mary was born the census show they called Mary, "Mary McCarthy" after her mother's marriage to Cornelius. This finally fits our Daniel and Mary Sullivan where can I inquire to get any documents regarding the above thank you very much On another note, I am all paid up and will be happy to send more next time, in fact, I think I sent more this last time, cuz of my big mouth! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Secker" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 3:30:51 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] July 19 meeting I will be in Troy on July 19 and would like to join you for the dinner/meeting. I will be at the Hilton Garden Inn, but have directions to Moscatello's. Kathleen Secker ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wonderful!! We really enjoy out of area TIGS members showing up for meetings.....Kris Ayotte -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen Secker <[email protected]> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Jul 9, 2012 3:43 pm Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] July 19 meeting I will be in Troy on July 19 and would like to join you for the dinner/meeting. I will be at the Hilton Garden Inn, but have directions to Moscatello's. Kathleen Secker ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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I will be in Troy on July 19 and would like to join you for the dinner/meeting. I will be at the Hilton Garden Inn, but have directions to Moscatello's. Kathleen Secker

I wouldn't mind paying extra for using Pal Pal to cover all of TIGS costs. You could have one charge by check and one charge by Pal Pal. O > We continue to look into Pay Pal, -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

You folks have been with us for the long run and your support is tremendous. Fortunately the dues have pretty much kept us from digging into our own pockets. Jeanne Keefe has found the sources to scan and copy and kept the website one of the best free genealogy websites on the net. Bill McGrath just keeps finding projects for the transcribers all over the US and beyond.... Thanks to members like Mary Lee who constantly contribute with information on the list, that is how we continue to be successful as a group. Kris Ayotte -----Original Message----- From: Marianne Arnold <[email protected]> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jul 8, 2012 10:51 am Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] dues Count me in. I think all the work the people in the Troy area do cannot possibly cover all their expenses and time. (I used to work for a non-profit, so know how easy it is to spend your own money). At least $20 a year, better yet $25. Marianne Arnold On Jul 8, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Mary Lee Dunn wrote: > Hi, Rosemary, > > You're welcome and thank you, too, for sharing info on our Dunn families. > > I echo your view of it and would gladly pay higher dues in support of TIGS and the great work it does which has helped me in surprising ways! The knowledge base is building and building and for those of us who don't live near Troy, TIGS' web site with its databases and list-serv make progress much more attainable and new connections much more likely > > Mary Lee Dunn > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks from all of us local folks and from all the wonderful TIGS list members who support and help with our projects. Thanks to Mary Lee for referring you to TIGS. We really appreciate all the input and again will look at the dues issue. Thanks Kris Ayotte -----Original Message----- From: Rosemary Kopczynski <[email protected]> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jul 7, 2012 8:25 pm Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] dues I agree with Jim about raising the dues. I live on Long Island but joined TIGS because of my interest in researching my family (thank you Mary Lee Dunn). I am so appreciative of all the work that is done by volunteers that people, like myself, benefit from. I would gladly pay $20-25 per year to help support this wonderful organization. Rosemary Kopczynski

Jim, we are not registered as a non profit. When the group was real young we discussed it and it seemed very complicated. Now that we have grown and have tremendous input and help from all the list members as well as local folks we really should look at the process again. I will ask for it to be on next months agenda and see where we go with it. I know there is so much more we could do with the non profit status. Your suggestion for a list with dues status is also helpful. We will have to check with Jeanne, our Webmaster, to see if it could be added to the website or perhaps Lizette, our Treasurer could post to the list several times a year. As to the dues, Tim already answered that question. We should look at the charter to see if there are restrictions. BUT if we obtained non profit status we could leave the dues affordable for all and accept donations from those that are inclined to give that extra bit of help. Thanks Kris Ayotte -- I would like to start with a question. Is TIGS registered as a non profit? Now for a suggestion. When a person joins they must be somehow entered into the computer. If we use a spread sheet then there is a number next to our name. If we published a list with dues status then we would know our status regarding dues. Another suggestion, if we are not a non profit could we become one. That way folks that would like to donate to the cause could. Last suggestion. Raise our dues. If that isn't a popular idea then raise our dues and give credits to those that do so much work. Jim Kelly --- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We continue to look into Pay Pal, but until then.....the following information is available on the following link.....www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. Cost of Dues: $10.00 a year / Make checks payable to TIGS Membership period: January 2011 to December 2011 Send Dues & Form to: Lizette Strait 1649 Spring Avenue Ext. Wynantskill, NY 12198 -----Original Message----- From: Pat Connors <[email protected]> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jul 7, 2012 5:51 pm Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] dues It would be nice if one could pay via Pay Pal. In my months away, I've been remiss. Besides handing in a check at the next > meeting, what's the best way to "pay our dues"? > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for all suggestions, I don't think we can change dues in the middle of the year but will bring this up for a vote next meeting for next year. Thanks again. Tim Stone President of TIGS -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marianne Arnold Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] dues Count me in. I think all the work the people in the Troy area do cannot possibly cover all their expenses and time. (I used to work for a non-profit, so know how easy it is to spend your own money). At least $20 a year, better yet $25. Marianne Arnold On Jul 8, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Mary Lee Dunn wrote: > Hi, Rosemary, > > You're welcome and thank you, too, for sharing info on our Dunn families. > > I echo your view of it and would gladly pay higher dues in support of TIGS and the great work it does which has helped me in surprising ways! The knowledge base is building and building and for those of us who don't live near Troy, TIGS' web site with its databases and list-serv make progress much more attainable and new connections much more likely > > Mary Lee Dunn > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rosemary Kopczynski <[email protected]> > To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, Jul 7, 2012 8:25 pm > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] dues > > > I agree with Jim about raising the dues. I live on Long Island but joined TIGS > because of my interest in researching my family (thank you Mary Lee Dunn). I am > so appreciative of all the work that is done by volunteers that people, like > myself, benefit from. I would gladly pay $20-25 per year to help support this > wonderful organization. > > Rosemary Kopczynski > ________________________________________ > From: [email protected] [[email protected]] > on behalf of James Kelly [[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 7:37 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] dues > > I would like to start with a question. Is TIGS registered as a non profit? > > Now for a suggestion. > > When a person joins they must be somehow entered into the computer. If we > use a spread sheet then there is a number next to our name. If we published > a list with dues status then we would know our status regarding dues. > > Another suggestion, if we are not a non profit could we become one. That > way folks that would like to donate to the cause could. > > Last suggestion. Raise our dues. If that isn't a popular idea then raise > our dues and give credits to those that do so much work. > > Jim Kelly > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Connors > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 2:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] dues > > It would be nice if one could pay via Pay Pal. > > > In my months away, I've been remiss. Besides handing in a check at the next >> meeting, what's the best way to "pay our dues"? >> > > > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for > details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for > details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for > details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message