What is the best way to request records for an Albany County coroner's inquest? I apparenty need info from this box: 1/1/1866 -12/31/1869 13 31 B 1 S Coroners Inquests 1866-1869 I have recently found a newspaper article from Aug 1869 regarding the death of my Great Grandmother's first husband, He was involved in a railroad accident vs horse and wagon. The article states: "The body of <Joseph> Shafer was taken to the Third Precinct Station House, where Coroner Mulligan summoned a jury, and will hold an inquiry this evening."

I have added today the naturalizations for Albany County NY for the years 1850, 1849 and 1848. As you might note, I had some naturalizations already online for 1850 but it wasn't for the full year since they were split between two films. I have now finished the first film and started the 2nd. I also added some that just said born in "Ireland" without designating a particular place in Ireland if the port they left in was given as a place in Ireland, like Cork, Galway, Limerick, Belfast, etc. These are good clues that your ancestor lived near one of these ports before emigrating. You can find them on the ALBANY COUNTY section of my website: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ If you have any questions, feel free to email me off or on the list. Oh, you may find some all in RED, that is because they are names associated with my family and it is to remind me to follow up on them in the censuses. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

The Watervliet Historical Society and the Cohoes Spindle City Historic Society are jointly hosting a presentation on Saturday September 22nd at 1:00 PM at the Watervliet Museum. OUR LOCATION: Corner of 1st Avenue and 15th Street in Watervliet Just behind the Watervliet Public Library The title of the program is: "YOU DON'T KNOW JACK" In the persona of Jack of the Mabee Farm (from nearby Rotterdam Junction), historic re-enactor Clifford Oliver Mealy explores the who, what, why and wherefores of slavery in America. Being careful not to judge people of the past by today?s standards, Clifford Mealy brings American slavery to life in an intelligent factual presentation surely to enlighten. As a photographer for New York State?s Bureau of Historic Sites, Clifford began serious study into early African American History. It was here also that Clifford Oliver Mealy was recruited into the ranks of historic re-enacting. There is no charge for this program. All are welcome. * *

A fire early Thursday morning http://bit.ly/P2r2jr has closed at this hour the Rte32 bridge between Cohoes and Waterford as well as the northern part of 787. If attending the meeting tonight at Forty One restaurant (41 112th street, Troy) you might want to avoid coming through Cohoes (or at least check online for road closures). Past factory fires at the same intersection kept the bridge closed for several days.

Mary, Thank you for catching my error. Please accept my apology for the wrong e-mail address. I hope everyone on the list reads this message so they can access the correct e-mail address. I made the mistake of "googling" for it instead of checking the museum's literature. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Racette" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Events at Irish American Heritage Museumin Albany Kay--the address you gave was for a museum in another city. The correct address for the Albany Irish Heritage Museum is http://www.irishamericanheritagemuseum.org/. I'm looking forward to visiting it! Mary Racette

Kay--the address you gave was for a museum in another city. The correct address for the Albany Irish Heritage Museum is http://www.irishamericanheritagemuseum.org/.   I'm looking forward to visiting it!   Mary Racette   ________________________________ From: Kay Brearton <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:15 AM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Events at Irish American Heritage Museum in Albany There are some interesting events coming up at the Irish American Museum in Albany. I suggest checking out their website - http://www.irishamericanmuseum.org/ As you may know they are now located on Broadway in Albany opposite the SUNY Central Building (old D&H Building). ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**.  See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just so others don't get confused, St. Joseph's (GI) was founded in 1897, but St. Patrick's (Wvlt) was formed in 1840 and served GI prior to the establishment of St. Joseph's. Both were consolidated into IHOM, and Mr. Hanley should be able to help. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jaime Aulet" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:33 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] St. Joseph's Church on Green Island > Thank you. I wasn't sure when I looked back through that discussion if I > was talking about the same St. Josephs. I will contact IHOM parish to see > if they have a record of the marriage.

There are some interesting events coming up at the Irish American Museum in Albany. I suggest checking out their website - www.irishamericanmuseum.org As you may know they are now located on Broadway in Albany opposite the SUNY Central Building (old D&H Building).

Well said Michael. Gerri Sherry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of M McAlonie Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:46 AM To: TIGS Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Old Parochial School Records these records are stored in a fashion you would expect of a museum archivist to handle them, in locked cabinets in a locked , clean office, white cotton gloves, etc. Mr Hanley has done a meticulous job maintaining, cataloging, and most especially indexing them to make our genealogy searches much much easier. The $20 fee is nominal and very reasonable. And compared to the $10-20 per record search that many feel is appropriate for a request, $20 for a family is way more than reasonable. I dont know about records at other Albany diocese parishes, but be assured that those now under the care of Mr Hanley at IHOM Parish are meticulously and respectfully maintained and cared for. Tom Hanley is a professional. And when anyone contacts these individuals in care of these RCDA records I Think we would all agree that we should be extremely polite and patient, as I am sure these folks are volunteers or are not paid much at all, so as to not ruin it for the rest of us when our requests are made. Everything costs money. Why dont people start talking about raising and donating money to help defray the costs of maintaining and indexing these records to help out those who have dedicated their time and efforts to preserving them like Tom Hanley has done. Michael > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:28:21 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Old Parochial School Records > > > > > > A couple of questions. it sounds like many records are possibly stored by Mr Hanley.does he keep these in his own home?? I don't understand why these are not being properly stored by the diocese and/or in a controlled or at least locked fireproof safe by a Church or Churches. No offense to Mr Hanley or any others but storing records in this way is usually how in so many years records are found in someones garage. > I'm wondering if perhaps TIGS could help organize a Albany catholic > Audit of these records. It seems like no one knows where and in what condition so many of these records are stored. it would also be a great service if we could get the diocese to standardize hoe these records can be accessed. I've encountered prices ranging from $25.oo donation per family to something similar per family. meanwhile the Diocesan archivist has told me several times that parishes should NOT be asking for fees or a donations. > > > My main concern in asking about St Peter's was that I was told in a phone call that there were boxes of records. Not just students records but boxes of things in the Church basement. Does anyone know who I might be able to contact to find out about these boxes. > > Thanks > -Peter Reilly ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you. I wasn't sure when I looked back through that discussion if I was talking about the same St. Josephs. I will contact IHOM parish to see if they have a record of the marriage. On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Stanton Broderick <[email protected]> wrote: > Immaculate Heart of Mary parish in Wvlt would have the records. Tradition > was for marriage to occur in the bride's church. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jaime Aulet" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:12 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] St. Joseph's Church on Green Island > > > Hello, > > > > It is possible that the Fitzpatrick - Murray marriage that I am trying to > > find records for may have occurred at St. Joseph's in Green Island, since > > on the 1860 US Census Maria Murray was living there with her mother. I > > know Michael Fitzpatrick and Maria Murray married in the early 1860s. > > However, this church too has closed. Does anyone know where those > records > > may have ended up? > > > > Thank you, > > > > Jaime Aulet > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website > > for details: > > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5273 - Release Date: 09/17/12 > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website > for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All, The latest 'Digest' sent out contained seven messages and ALL were nicely trimmed or had just the message being replied to. I appreciate your cooperation. Brad Miter TIGS list administrator

Great Mickey, see you then... [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Mickey Frisbee <[email protected]> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:45 am Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] TIGS Meeting I HAVE NOT PAID MY DUES, BUT PLAN TO ATTEND THE MEETING. MICKEY -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Stone Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] TIGS Meeting Next TIGS meeting is September 20 at Forty One Sports Bar & Grille 41 112th Street, Troy, NY Please let me know if you plan to attend. Thanks Tim ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5271 - Release Date: 09/16/12 ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Immaculate Heart of Mary parish in Wvlt would have the records. Tradition was for marriage to occur in the bride's church. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jaime Aulet" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:12 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] St. Joseph's Church on Green Island > Hello, > > It is possible that the Fitzpatrick - Murray marriage that I am trying to > find records for may have occurred at St. Joseph's in Green Island, since > on the 1860 US Census Maria Murray was living there with her mother. I > know Michael Fitzpatrick and Maria Murray married in the early 1860s. > However, this church too has closed. Does anyone know where those records > may have ended up? > > Thank you, > > Jaime Aulet > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website > for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5273 - Release Date: 09/17/12 >

Hello, It is possible that the Fitzpatrick - Murray marriage that I am trying to find records for may have occurred at St. Joseph's in Green Island, since on the 1860 US Census Maria Murray was living there with her mother. I know Michael Fitzpatrick and Maria Murray married in the early 1860s. However, this church too has closed. Does anyone know where those records may have ended up? Thank you, Jaime Aulet

> As always you are the Lady with the answers. So.... If in 1843 William and > Grace Walls immigrate to the U.S. with 9 kids born between 1827 and 1843, > can I assume that all of hem become citizens after being here for 5 years, > even those who turn 21 before the 5 year period. > They would still have to petition to become a citizen, it is not automatic, they would first file a Declaration of Intention before being sworn in as a citizen. However, while the same form is used, most don't give the place in Ireland where they were born but every once in a while, I find one that does so worth searching for even the minors. There should be two forms for them, the petition, and when they are sworn in. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

these records are stored in a fashion you would expect of a museum archivist to handle them, in locked cabinets in a locked , clean office, white cotton gloves, etc. Mr Hanley has done a meticulous job maintaining, cataloging, and most especially indexing them to make our genealogy searches much much easier. The $20 fee is nominal and very reasonable. And compared to the $10-20 per record search that many feel is appropriate for a request, $20 for a family is way more than reasonable. I dont know about records at other Albany diocese parishes, but be assured that those now under the care of Mr Hanley at IHOM Parish are meticulously and respectfully maintained and cared for. Tom Hanley is a professional. And when anyone contacts these individuals in care of these RCDA records I Think we would all agree that we should be extremely polite and patient, as I am sure these folks are volunteers or are not paid much at all, so as to not ruin it for the rest of us when our requests are made. Everything costs money. Why dont people start talking about raising and donating money to help defray the costs of maintaining and indexing these records to help out those who have dedicated their time and efforts to preserving them like Tom Hanley has done. Michael > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:28:21 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Old Parochial School Records > > > > > > A couple of questions. it sounds like many records are possibly stored by Mr Hanley.does he keep these in his own home?? I don't understand why these are not being properly stored by the diocese and/or in a controlled or at least locked fireproof safe by a Church or Churches. No offense to Mr Hanley or any others but storing records in this way is usually how in so many years records are found in someones garage. > I'm wondering if perhaps TIGS could help organize a Albany catholic Audit of these records. It seems like no one knows where and in what condition so many of these records are stored. it would also be a great service if we could get the diocese to standardize hoe these records can be accessed. I've encountered prices ranging from $25.oo donation per family to something similar per family. meanwhile the > Diocesan archivist has told me several times that parishes should NOT be asking for fees or a donations. > > > My main concern in asking about St Peter's was that I was told in a phone call that there were boxes of records. Not just students records but boxes of things in the Church basement. Does anyone know who I might be able to contact to find out about these boxes. > > Thanks > -Peter Reilly

I HAVE NOT PAID MY DUES, BUT PLAN TO ATTEND THE MEETING. MICKEY -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Stone Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] TIGS Meeting Next TIGS meeting is September 20 at Forty One Sports Bar & Grille 41 112th Street, Troy, NY Please let me know if you plan to attend. Thanks Tim ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5271 - Release Date: 09/16/12

Michael, I do not know your relationship to the IHOM, and that's not really important, but thank you for your insight. When I dealt with Tom two years age I also found the same things you mentioned. In fact the Diocesan record keepers could learn a thing or two from him. Jim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of M McAlonie Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:46 AM To: TIGS Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Old Parochial School Records these records are stored in a fashion you would expect of a museum archivist to handle them, in locked cabinets in a locked , clean office, white cotton gloves, etc. Mr Hanley has done a meticulous job maintaining, cataloging, and most especially indexing them to make our genealogy searches much much easier. The $20 fee is nominal and very reasonable. And compared to the $10-20 per record search that many feel is appropriate for a request, $20 for a family is way more than reasonable. I dont know about records at other Albany diocese parishes, but be assured that those now under the care of Mr Hanley at IHOM Parish are meticulously and respectfully maintained and cared for. Tom Hanley is a professional. And when anyone contacts these individuals in care of these RCDA records I Think we would all agree that we should be extremely polite and patient, as I am sure these folks are volunteers or are not paid much at all, so as to not ruin it for the rest of us when our requests are made. Everything costs money. Why dont people start talking about raising and donating money to help defray the costs of maintaining and indexing these records to help out those who have dedicated their time and efforts to preserving them like Tom Hanley has done. Michael > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:28:21 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Old Parochial School Records > > > > > > A couple of questions. it sounds like many records are possibly stored by Mr Hanley.does he keep these in his own home?? I don't understand why these are not being properly stored by the diocese and/or in a controlled or at least locked fireproof safe by a Church or Churches. No offense to Mr Hanley or any others but storing records in this way is usually how in so many years records are found in someones garage. > I'm wondering if perhaps TIGS could help organize a Albany catholic > Audit of these records. It seems like no one knows where and in what condition so many of these records are stored. it would also be a great service if we could get the diocese to standardize hoe these records can be accessed. I've encountered prices ranging from $25.oo donation per family to something similar per family. meanwhile the Diocesan archivist has told me several times that parishes should NOT be asking for fees or a donations. > > > My main concern in asking about St Peter's was that I was told in a phone call that there were boxes of records. Not just students records but boxes of things in the Church basement. Does anyone know who I might be able to contact to find out about these boxes. > > Thanks > -Peter Reilly ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Next TIGS meeting is September 20 at Forty One Sports Bar & Grille 41 112th Street, Troy, NY Please let me know if you plan to attend. Thanks Tim

Pat, As always you are the Lady with the answers. So.... If in 1843 William and Grace Walls immigrate to the U.S. with 9 kids born between 1827 and 1843, can I assume that all of hem become citizens after being here for 5 years, even those who turn 21 before the 5 year period. The rule says "Alien minors were naturalized upon reaching 21 years of age if they had lived in the US continuously for five years." Thanks, Jim Kelly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Connors Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Naturalization I have a Great, Great Grandfather who was naturalized in 1851. When he came > the the US he came with a wife and 9 children. Did his children have > to be naturalized individually or did his taking his oath include them? > Jim, rules changed over time, here is a site I did years ago. It covers the rules: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyrenss2/naturalization/#nat%20history As you probably have seen, I have been transcribing the Albany County natualization Declaration of Intentions of those that mention the county of birth in Ireland. I have two films covering years 1842 thru 1854. I will then be getting the next films till end of 1860s. Plus, they all have indexes before the records. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2012 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message