It's about time. Maybe NYCap is cleaned up too. Have you had any unsubscribes recently? http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ only contains problem messages from 5/14/2014. I wonder if they had managed to correct it before the Denial of Service problem. Brad -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lizette Strait Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:27 PM To: Bradford H Miter; TIGS Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Test message I think it might be working. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2014, at 11:10 AM, "Lizette Strait" <lstrait94@earthlink.net> wrote: > :-) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bradford H Miter [mailto:bradmiter@earthlink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:07 AM > To: 'TIGS' > Cc: 'Lizette Strait' > Subject: Test message > > If you see this message it means that the TIGS list at Rootsweb is in > business again. > Brad Miter > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

* Cohoes City Cemetery (now West End Park) and Cohoes’ section of Crescent Union Cemetery (completed forested) * Calvary Cemetery, Cohoes (closed 1958) https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7Mt-S77wZKfNzQyYzlrX3NIclU&usp=sharing Sad cases. Finding anybody in those, except for a very few, might be impossible. > in 1968 the Union Cemetery Board of Trustees notified Mayor James [E.] McDonald that the City of Cohoes was behind in the payment of their annual upkeep annuity of twenty-two dollars for minimal maintenance. The City had been negligent since 1952. The Mayor’s response was: “I can’t see why we should pay this money annually when we aren’t getting any use of it.” > Today those hallowed grounds are a forgotten disgrace. Lipka, Walter. “The Old Cohoes Burying Ground.” Spindle City Historic Society Newsletter 9(4). Winter 2006. 1, 8. http://www.spindlecity.net/NewsLetters/2006-4-Winter.pdf > Tom Ballard, President of Union Cemetery in Crescent stated that the City of Cohoes owns about and acre and half adjacent to Union Cemetery, which is not being maintained. Asking at this time to have someone clean up the area. Cohoes Common Council Proceedings. July 24, 2007. http://www.cohoes.com/Cit-e-Access/towncouncil/index.cfm?tid=34&tpid=6356&mid=8879&view=M&Print=1 “The city of Cohoes is not in the business of running cemeteries” - Mayor John T. McDonald III [primarily addressing Van Schaick Cemetery, but it seems to apply to Cohoes section of Crescent Union Cemetery too] Roman, Dayelin. "Cohoes group takes over historic cemetery, seeks to solve its mystery; Cohoes cemetery's historic merit is unquestioned -- it's the ownership that's uncertain." Albany Times Union. November 15, 2011. http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Cohoes-group-takes-over-historic-cemetery-seeks-2271155.php > The work of grading and clearing the land at Old Calvary Cemetery in the southern section of Cohoes has been completed and the plot will probably be landscaped and beautified next spring, it was learned today. > All of the brush, weeds and small trees have been removed from the site, together with most of the old headstones, which were fallen or in a dilapidated condition. > The cemetery is the property of St. Bernard’s Church but it has not been used for burial purposes for many years. Several former priests of the parish and the ancestors of many present members of the congregation were interred there. The bodies of more than a dozen veterans of the Civil War and the Spanish-American War were previously moved from the Cohoes Cemetery to a special veterans plot in St. Mary’s Cemetery, Waterford. > Some of the larger stones and monuments which are in good condition, have been allowed to stand. Included are those marking the graves of Rev. Thomas Keveny, pastor of St. Bernard's Church from 1855 to 1882, and his nephew who succeeded him, Rev. Thomas S. Keveny, who died in 1925. > Plans for the improvement project were made last June when lot holders and other persons interested in the former burial site met with Rev. James P. Lawlor, supervisor of cemeteries in the Albany Catholic Diocese. > Calvary Cemetery is located off the southern terminus of Lincoln avenue. It lies south of Bridge street and west of Saratoga street, along the Delaware Hudson Railroad line. "Improvement of Cemetery Completed.” Times Record. November 14, 1957: 24 col 5. Chris Philippo

I think it might be working. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2014, at 11:10 AM, "Lizette Strait" <lstrait94@earthlink.net> wrote: > :-) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bradford H Miter [mailto:bradmiter@earthlink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:07 AM > To: 'TIGS' > Cc: 'Lizette Strait' > Subject: Test message > > If you see this message it means that the TIGS list at Rootsweb is in > business again. > Brad Miter > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That burial ground on the map looks like the site of the former Gallagher's Fish Fry! > On Jun 25, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Christopher Philippo <toff@mac.com> wrote: > > The no-longer-extant Burial Ground or Cemetery variously referred to as the Gibbonsville, Port Schuyler, West Troy, Watervliet Cemetery: > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Mt-S77wZKfZXl4ZkxXMDZlUW8/edit?usp=sharing >

The no-longer-extant Burial Ground or Cemetery variously referred to as the Gibbonsville, Port Schuyler, West Troy, Watervliet Cemetery: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Mt-S77wZKfZXl4ZkxXMDZlUW8/edit?usp=sharing “The union of the North and the South and the obliteration of the Mason and Dixon line never meant more to the people of the whole United States than the union of the north and south portions of the city means at the present time to the residents of Watervliet. […] Little did the people that lived and worked a century ago dream that this little burial-ground would in the twentieth century furnish the means for the entire transformation and upbuilding of the city of Watervliet.” Removing early settlers of Watervliet from Watervliet to a cemetery outside of Watervliet held to be more important to the people of Watervliet than the Civil War was to the United States… that’s some pretty extreme rhetoric! Some of the people in it could’ve been from Troy or had connections to Troy. John Burlison (1797-1869), whose neglected and broken headstone is in Mount Ida Cemetery on Pawling, had his first wife and at least two children buried in the Gibbonsville Cemetery. That family had very bad luck when it came to cemeteries - one of his later wives was buried in the since-abandoned Old Presbyterian Cemetery in the triangle between Route 67, Geary Rd, and Turnip Alley in Schaghticoke. The smaller Watervliet Arsenal Cemetery is also mentioned as well as one I haven’t identified yet where at Fenimore Trace Apartments is now on the north side of the Troy-Schenectady Road, northeast of St. Patrick’s Cemetery. Chris Philippo

:-) -----Original Message----- From: Bradford H Miter [mailto:bradmiter@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:07 AM To: 'TIGS' Cc: 'Lizette Strait' Subject: Test message If you see this message it means that the TIGS list at Rootsweb is in business again. Brad Miter

From: Keefe, Jeanne Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 2:39 PM To: 'NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Scanning Does anyone have time next week to do some scanning of the Marriage Notices in the Lansingburgh Newspapers? Monday 9-1, 3-5. Tuesday afternoon 1-5. Wednesday all day, Thursday all day. Friday afternoon 2-5 pm. If so just let me know. Thanks, Jeanne Jeanne M. Keefe Architecture Library Librarian Architecture Library, Greene Building Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 110 8th Street, Troy, NY 12180 Tel: 518-276-2727 Fax: 518-276-6753 E-mail: keefej@rpi.edu<mailto:keefej@rpi.edu>

“Arrangements have been made by the post [Post Bolton, G.A.R.] for the removal of the remains of Jules Barlette, a veteran, from the potter’s field, near St. John’s cemetery, and for the reinterment in the soldier’s plat at Oakwood.” “Lansingburgh.” Troy Daily Times. May 7, 1891: 3 col 4. Any idea where a potter’s field is/had been in Lansingburgh? Incidentally, last month I’d filed a Freedom of Information Law request with Rensselaer County for “Records pertaining to the Rensselaer County Farm Cemetery, which might include but not be limited to: cemetery map(s), list(s) of interments, cemetery markers, reinterments (if any), property ownership and management, photographs, aerial photos, what was done with the skull found in 1954, etc.” The county government has so far failed to even acknowledge the request even though the law requires that requests be acknowledged - that doesn’t look good on their part. In 1881 there were at least fifteen interments in the County Farm Cemetery (which seems to have been located in the vicinity of Smart’s Pond, east of St. Joseph’s Cemetery), two of them born in Ireland: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyrensse/troybur5.htm Interments continued on into the 20th century: "An occupant of the County Almshouse for thirty-four years, of whom nothing is known except what he gave when he was admitted February 14, 1884, died there yesterday and will be buried in the ALMSHOUSE CEMETERY. He gave his name at that time as Willie Sherman, said he was born in Troy, was twenty-four years old and a voter in the thirteenth ward. He gave his occupation as baker and said his father, Patrick, was a peddler" (capital emphasis added). “Thirty-four Years in Almshouse.” Troy Daily Times. November 4, 1918: 8 col 3. “A human skull was found yesterday by youngsters playing near Griswold Heights. “Investigation by police revealed that the skeleton had probably been unearthed from the old burial ground once located near the south side of Griswold Heights and east of the rear entrance to St. Joseph’s Cemetery. A resident of Griswold Heights notified police of the discovery and Patrolmen Thomas O’Brien and Paul Spenard of the radio patrol went to the scene. “The skull was later turned over to Coroner Anthony E. Matera.” “Children Find Skull At Griswold Heights.” Times Record [Troy, NY]. September 23, 1954: 7 col 2. One hopes the remains found were given a proper reburial rather than boxed away in the Rensselaer County Office of the Medical Examiner or discarded! Chris Philippo

On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 14:19:40 -0400, Christine Connell wrote: > Chris - I was told by Jane Gale (who had Warren ancestors) that she understood that the Third Street burial ground was at what is now the SW corner of Congress and 3rd. Was it there or adjacent to the Church (Barker Park)? On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 14:43:19 -0400, Christine Connell wrote: > Correction: NW corner (former Jack-in-the-box) It was at the southeast corner of State and 3rd, the Barker Park area, next to the church. http://www.pinterest.com/pin/433330795366303905/ http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P8oWd4v-a74/UbOPMhmDP6I/AAAAAAAAC2o/KtvWpFWCHkI/s1600/oakwoodplaquecloseup.jpg (anyone know where the illustration on the plaque is from?) Third Street Burial Grounds (20 pages) https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Mt-S77wZKfU0d5Zk8tMWpSTUk/edit?usp=sharing One is left with a number of questions. If the headstones had been laid flat and buried under several inches of sod in 1846 (which should have largely protected them from further damage), why weren’t they moved to Oakwood Cemetery in 1876? What happened to them? Additionally, if the city had decided that the land should cease to be a burying ground and that the remains should be reinterred to Oakwood, why is it that the city left bodies and headstones that were in the space between where the City Hall was constructed and the church? Are bodies and headstones still there? It’s hard to tell how big an area the space between City Hall and the church was from postcards http://www.lib.rpi.edu/Archives/gallery/postcards/troy/public/city_hall.html https://www.flickr.com/photos/nypl/3990821610/in/set-72157622419084487 How the brick and stone City Hall burned to the ground beyond repair after just sixty-two years http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyrensse/photo2.htm is also beyond me. Why Troy again lacks a proper City Hall, making it more like an unincorporated village or hamlet in that respect, when elsewhere in New York villages and towns can manage proper municipal offices, and far smaller cities like Sherill and Mechanicville can manage to have city halls. :-( The Fortress http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2013/06/walkabout-troys-fortress-of-shoddy-part-1/ http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2013/06/walkabout-troys-fortress-of-shoddy-part-2/ or one of the long-empty churches in Troy might make for a suitable City Hall if only the city weren’t so keen on renting or the idea of someday (maybe never) building something completely new. Or take the EMPAC building by eminent domain, since RPI could just build a new one with the spare change from their President’s sofa! :-D Chris Philippo

Correction: NW corner (former Jack-in-the-box) > On Jun 14, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Christine Connell <christine.connell@gmail.com> wrote: > > Chris - I was told by Jane Gale (who had Warren ancestors) that she understood that the Third Street burial ground was at what is now the SW corner of Congress and 3rd. Was it there or adjacent to the Church (Barker Park)? > >> >> I’m guessing they had been buried in the Third Street Cemetery. > >> The mention above of the Third Street Cemetery next to the First Baptist Church is probably a mistake. That he’d conveyed that land to the Village of Troy for use as a burying ground might be the source of that confusion. >> >> Chris Philippo >> ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List===

Chris - I was told by Jane Gale (who had Warren ancestors) that she understood that the Third Street burial ground was at what is now the SW corner of Congress and 3rd. Was it there or adjacent to the Church (Barker Park)? > > I’m guessing they had been buried in the Third Street Cemetery. > The mention above of the Third Street Cemetery next to the First Baptist Church is probably a mistake. That he’d conveyed that land to the Village of Troy for use as a burying ground might be the source of that confusion. > > Chris Philippo > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List===

Phebe Smith Miller (1756-1800) http://books.google.com/books?id=Ot0UAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA211 Mary Woodworth (1769-1802) http://books.google.com/books?id=Ot0UAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA204 Eliza Hunting Coe (1773-1805) http://books.google.com/books?id=Ot0UAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA212 Harriet Hillhouse (1775-1811) http://books.google.com/books?id=Ot0UAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA204 Alden, Timothy. A Collection of American Epitaphs and Inscriptions with Occasional Notes. Vol. 3. NY: S. Marks, 1814. I’m guessing they had been buried in the Third Street Cemetery. "The plat of ground on which the City Hall is built was conveyed, on May 10, 1796, by Jacob D. Van Der Heyden, to the trustees of the village, ‘to be used for a public burial ground.’ After Oakwood Cemetery was laid out, many of the remains in it were buried there. When the grave-yard was taken in 1875 for the site of the City Hall, the remains of 208 persons were exhumed and interred in Oakwood Cemetery. Beneath the sod of the unoccupied space between the City Hall and the Baptist Church is a number of graves covered with the marble slabs which once marked them. Among them is the grave of Platt Titus, who, at the time of his death, on Thursday, April 30, 1833, had been proprietor of the Troy House nearly 30 years.” Weise, Arthur James. The City of Troy and Its Vicinity. Troy, NY: Edward Green, 1886. 54. Alden’s volumes 3 and 4 have some inscriptions for Albany, Troy, and elsewhere in the area that offhand I don’t recall seeing recorded in other texts. One of Alden’s observations, or something he recorded as having been written, regarding Jacob D. Vanderheyden (1758-1809) is curious: “His remains were deposited in his family vault, which he had previously prepared, under the presbyterian church in Troy.” Other sources report Jacob D. Vanderheyden’s remains as having been elsewhere (and now at Oakwood). "On the hill, east of Eighth Street, on the dividing line of the Warren and Seminary properties, was the burial-ground of the Van der Heyden family, inclosed by a high stone-wall. The remains interred there were, in July, 1857, transferred to Oakwood Cemetery.” Weise, Arthur James. The City of Troy and Its Vicinity. Troy, NY: Edward Green, 1886. 54. "The family of Jacob D. were buried first in a private graveyard at the head of Grand Division St. In July, 1857, the remains were transferred to Oakwood Cemetery.” Schermerhorn, Richard. “The Vanderheyden Family.” New York Genealogical and Biographical Record 46(1). January 1915. 12. "After Jacob D. VAN DER HEYDEN removed to his mansion, at the head of Grand Division Street, he enclosed a small plat of ground on the eastern hill, a short distance north of the site of the Provincial Seminary, for a family graveyard. In it he and other members of his family were buried. In July 1857, the remains in it were transferred to graves in Oakwood Cemetery.” Weise, Arthur James. Troy’s One Hundred Years, 1789-1889. Troy, NY: William H. Young, 1891. 91. "Vanderheyden was buried in the Third Street Cemetery next to the First Baptist Church. His grandson, Lewis Morris, brought all the family remains to Oakwood after Oakwood Cemetery opened in 1850.”http://www.oakwoodcemetery.org/jacob_van.html There’s glass and marble memorials to Jacob D. Vanderheyden in the former First Presbyterian Church.http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/ChurchMemorials-Bush%20Memorial.htm The mention above of the Third Street Cemetery next to the First Baptist Church is probably a mistake. That he’d conveyed that land to the Village of Troy for use as a burying ground might be the source of that confusion. Chris Philippo

ANNOUNCING NEW DATA BASE BOOK 3 - STYLES FUNERAL HOME, TROY, NY Book 3 showing burials from the Styles Funeral Home in Troy, NY during the years 1939 to 1949 has just been added to the Troy Irish Genealogy Website. You can view these records by going to the TIGS website at: www.troyirish.com and click on PROJECTS and then click on STYLES FUNERAL HOME RECORDS, TROY, NY. For the most part these records are of South Troy residents who were born in the Troy area while a number of older individuals were born in Ireland or Poland. Genealogy researchers will find lots of useful information in these records. Many of the individuals records will show the following details: Age and sometimes date of birth. Last Place of Residence. Place of Birth. Occupation. Status - Married, Single, Widowed. Name of Father & Mother With Their Place of Birth. Name of Spouse. Date of Death. Place of Death. Place of Funeral - May Indicate Home Parish. Date & Place of Interment. Newspaper Notice - Name of Newspaper That Published Obituary. Notes - Identifies Many of the Floral Tributes, i.e. "Mother", Father", "Wife", etc. Special thanks goes to Thomas Styles, Jr. for allowing the Troy Irish Genealogy Society to copy information from the Styles Burial Books and to publish the information on the TIGS website. A history of the Styles Funeral Home along with some interesting photographs is also part of this data base. Book 3 entries end with recording the death of Thomas Styles, Sr. Apparently later funeral home records were kept in individual folders and not recorded in the burial books. Regards, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY

Barry, As many of my husband's and my family are buried there I would have loved to be with you but unfortunately I am flying out with 4/5th of my family that day for a family vacation. Please keep us in mind for future endeavors however. Thank you so much for all you do in the name of all our heritage. Mary Beth On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Barry Considine <bcon1112@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hello again listers, I previously announced a project to right overturned > gravestones in St. Mary's Cemetery,Troy. I have moved the project to > Saturday, 6/28/14 at 9:00 am. > The Lansingburgh Historical Society and TIGS are recording stones on 6/21, > and I did not want to coincide with their project. Hopefully some people > can join us to either tip (2 tippers per crew), clean stones, or record the > info on the stones. We will be doing some light digging to free some > stones, and taking care to replace them in the place we found them, > rightside up. > If you have work gloves, soft nylon brushes, or tools, please bring them. > Ice cold waters will be supplied. Food I'm not sure about, maybe we'll all > hit Finbar's for an Irish Lunch, if we don't smell too bad. > Thanks for your support! -Barry > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website > for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello again listers, I previously announced a project to right overturned gravestones in St. Mary's Cemetery,Troy. I have moved the project to Saturday, 6/28/14 at 9:00 am. The Lansingburgh Historical Society and TIGS are recording stones on 6/21, and I did not want to coincide with their project. Hopefully some people can join us to either tip (2 tippers per crew), clean stones, or record the info on the stones. We will be doing some light digging to free some stones, and taking care to replace them in the place we found them, rightside up. If you have work gloves, soft nylon brushes, or tools, please bring them. Ice cold waters will be supplied.  Food I'm not sure about, maybe we'll all hit Finbar's for an Irish Lunch, if we don't smell too bad. Thanks for your support!  -Barry

Today (June 8, 2014) is Genealogy Look-up Day at the Waterford Public Library http://www.waterfordlibrary.net/?p=2435 We have 12 interested people signed up for help. Walk-ins will be taken on a time-available basis. The library is located in a former historic D&H railroad depot at 117 3rd Street

such fascinating information!   Sally Finley Harloff   On Friday, June 6, 2014 3:38 PM, Christopher Philippo <toff@mac.com> wrote: † IHS In memory of Sarah Elizabeth BYRNE daughter of https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Mt-S77wZKfYWxheHotRHhCY3M/edit?usp=sharing As seen, a couple fragments matched.  Mid-19th century stone?  One fragment was near the front of the walk and the other at the back in a pile I hadn’t seen before alongside a rear porch so there’s maybe twenty-five or so total.  Does she or do Elizabeth and Ann Drohan show up in the St. John’s interment records? A number of stones proved to be relatively wide footstones.  Some are likely the lower half of headstones as they appear to have nothing on them.  I’m guessing few will have any substantial info. A weird story of a headstone found in Schenectady that had evidently been discarded when the family got a new monument in Oakwood Cemetery, Troy: http://gravelyny.blogspot.com/2014/06/dread-dead-bed-spread-bread-instead.html Chris ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**.  See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

† IHS In memory of Sarah Elizabeth BYRNE daughter of https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Mt-S77wZKfYWxheHotRHhCY3M/edit?usp=sharing As seen, a couple fragments matched. Mid-19th century stone? One fragment was near the front of the walk and the other at the back in a pile I hadn’t seen before alongside a rear porch so there’s maybe twenty-five or so total. Does she or do Elizabeth and Ann Drohan show up in the St. John’s interment records? A number of stones proved to be relatively wide footstones. Some are likely the lower half of headstones as they appear to have nothing on them. I’m guessing few will have any substantial info. A weird story of a headstone found in Schenectady that had evidently been discarded when the family got a new monument in Oakwood Cemetery, Troy: http://gravelyny.blogspot.com/2014/06/dread-dead-bed-spread-bread-instead.html Chris

Brad-  Please post to list- thank you! ATTN: Saturday 6/21/14 - 9:00 a.m. Help save the past at Troy's oldest Catholic cemetery. St. Mary's, Brunswick Rd. (Rte 2).  I am taking volunteers to right gravestones in the old sections, clean them off, and record the information on them to donate to TIGS. This is a very important project due to the loss of all records of St. Mary's prior to 1900. These stones may be invaluable to someone searching for their ancestors, and the only hope they have. So any help, whether physicallly prying up the stones, or just washing them down, or holding a pad and paper, would be helpful. If you can bring your own tools it's a great help. I find that a crowbar/prybar and a long handled icechopper and a shovel are good items to have. Work gloves are a good idea. We will only tip stones we feel are tippable without machinery. Also the ground will probably be dewy, and uneven. Recorders can bring a pencil and paper, and I hope to have some cleaning agents and spray tanks available for cleaners. We could always use water and soft bristle brushes if you have them.  I'll provide ice cold waters.  I think that with a dozen or more people, we could knock off the entire Old Sections of 1-7 and A,B,C in a few hours.  Some sections have few tipped stones. If interested, contact Barry Considine at bcon1112@yahoo.com, or for any questions. Thanks!

Thank you for following up on the stones. It is so important to preserve that history. -----Original Message----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-troy-irish-gensoc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Philippo Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:26 PM To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] "Old Marble Headstones (Downtown Albany)" County of Limerick. Requiescat in peace A'men. J.H. Sawyer utica. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Mt-S77wZKfNUo1dUQ3dmtJcWc/edit?usp=sharin g Historic Albany Foundation OK'd temporarily storing the headstones and the family that has them is OK with that too. I'll get them clean enough to read, transcribe them, and then go about determining if they belong somewhere or if the families had purchased new stones and these were discards. Whether the stones found elsewhere in the South End in 1999 were found to have been replaced or not, I don't know http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~clifflamere/Cem/CEM-AlbAll ey.htm Discards do happen and can cause confusion even when there's a definite attempt to indicate they're no longer headstones. Here's one at Oakwood where the names were chiseled away http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=102227281&PIpi=7255122 6 but the family in whose plot that stone was found didn't know what to make of it and thought it marked a grave. The boys whose grave it once marked are buried in a different section of the cemetery and have a new stone that matches the obelisk the family bought. A marble one in Schaghticoke might have been buried and replaced by the family's granite monument, or the older one might have been kept to mark the individual grave within the family lot. It's hard to tell what's the case: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=128388173 The older one has more charm - and more information. Chris ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message