City of Troy has responded that they do not have a death certificate for Miss Margaret Mahoney who died 4/18/1927 at 2617 Sixth St. in Troy. This info is confirmed through the City directory as well as her obituary. Any thoughts on how to obtain this certificate? Would the State Archives have one? She was a resident in Cohoes for decades until not too long before her death. Her funeral was at St. Peter's and burial in Calvary. Would it be possible that Cohoes would have a certificate, or that the church would have information? Thanks for any clues! Susan Toomy in Georgia
Susan, My father is a Duffy (James Francis) and he has tested on Family Tree DNA - Kit number 268412. I don't recognize the names that you've mentioned but there's a possibility that families were related back in Ireland. My Dad's family moved to Pittston upon arriving in the US and the second generation moved to Troy. We haven't been able to figure out why they headed to Troy and thought there might have been extended family there. Let me know if I can provide any additional information to help you compare your DNA to my father's. Jen Coffey ----- Original Message ----- From: ny-troy-irish-gensoc-request@rootsweb.com To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 3:00:26 AM Subject: NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Digest, Vol 9, Issue 140 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 15:58:27 -0400 From: Susan Mocsny Thomas <sthomas826@gmail.com> Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Duffy DNA? To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAL=tz5ZidV5NyQfKVjezu-uFnkKcDsyxn1MAdqsHUDQJn1_Asg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I am descended from a Thomas Duffy, b. 1830 in Ireland (place unknown and may possibly have been born in Troy). His wife was Rosanna Fitzpatrick, b. 1823, born in Belfast, Ireland. She emigrated from Ireland with her parents to Albany, NY. They married in Albany in 1847 and her obituary has her husband listed as Mr. Thos. Duffy of Troy, N.Y. They were in the Grand Rapids area of Wisconsin by the time their first child, James Duffy was born in 1850. They went on to have a total of five children: James, George Thomas (my great grandfather), Rosetta (who married Cornelius "Con" Kenevan), Stephen, and Edward. Thomas Duffy died in Fordham, Wisconsin in 1864 and was buried in St. John the Baptist Cemetery in Montello, Wisconsin. The following year, 1865, Rosanna moved to Oakland Township, near Austin, Minnesota to live with her son, George Thomas Duffy. She lived with him until her death in 1896. Of course I would love to have any information about either her Fitzpatricks of Albany or his Duffys of Troy! If you know either of these families, please contact me. I was also interested to see if anyone has Duffy or Fitzpatrick blood who has done DNA testing so I could compare results with mine. I have tested mine with Ancestry and uploaded the results to Family Tree DNA and have it on GEDmatch, as well. Susan Mocsny Thomas
On Jul 3, 2014, at 18:51:46 -050, Bob Miller wrote: > Thanks, Chris. I had learned of the well drowning just a few months ago in > the West Troy Advocate project. Now I know where he’s buried! Mt. Ida would only be where he was originally buried. He’s at Oakwood now: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=54132291 Oakwood might have records of when he and his family were reinterred there any by whom. Though more relevant to today than the above - my transcription of Francis Scott Key’s July 4, 1831 oration, with an image of its cover; I still need to check for any errors I might have made: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7Mt-S77wZKfZmxVVFV0dnZOZkU&usp=sharing There are memoranda in the file at the NYS Library & Archives in Albany, one dated April 18, 1942 by State Historian Arthur Pound to Dr. Vail noting a county historian sent him the pamphlet, adding “He expects me to send it back, but if it would be any sort of a real acquisition to you, I mean something rare and beautiful in your eyes, perhaps I can persuade him to give it to the State. But perhaps it is just commonplace.” On that Memorandum, there’s a note in pencil “NIL. would like to have it.” and in ink “Dear Arthur, We would very much like to have this, because of its author and because we have the largest collection of Fourth of July orations in captivity. It is certainly ‘rare + beautiful in our eyes!’” There’s a May 27, 1942 Memorandum for Mr. Gavit from Dr. Pound indicating the oration “is presented to the New York State Library by Mr Jesse Merritt, Farmingdale, N.Y.” There are some other libraries that appear to have copies of it: http://www.worldcat.org/title/oration-delivered-by-francis-s-key-esq-in-the-rotundo-of-the-capitol-of-the-u-states-on-the-4th-of-july-1831/oclc/9697713 It also appeared in the Washington National Intelligencer July 15, 1831: 2 cols 1-4. Someone’s written a little about the oration, without including a transcription of it, here: http://historyengine.richmond.edu/episodes/view/2063 The quotes in Key’s oration seem to be primarily from William Cowper’s 1785 “The Task”. Chris Philippo
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Christopher Philippo <toff@mac.com> wrote: > Some interment records have notes. Shelton Felton, d. Dec 1851, is noted > to have drowned in a well and had been a veteran of the War of 1812. He’s > buried in Mount Ida Cemetery, though I don’t think a headstone for him has > ever been noted there. Thanks, Chris. I had learned of the well drowning just a few months ago in the West Troy Advocate project. Now I know where he's buried! His name was actually Skelton Felton, the "Skelton" being an old family name passed down from Samuel Skelton, the first minister of Salem, Mass. He is my 3G grandfather. We've had fun with the name. I and my siblings all have bath towels allegedly from the Skelton Felton Hilton. He had a finger shot off at the Battle of Sackett's Harbor in the War of 1812.
https://http//www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyrensse/troybury.htm I went through some of the microfilm reels today, starting to transcribe some of the Rensselaer County Almshouse/County Farm/House of Industry Cemetery interments. There’s probably hundreds of people buried there, if not thousands. Ulster County’s Almshouse Cemetery is known to have had upwards of 1,500. Rensselaer County Farm Cemetery (Defunct) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=2538887 The “Mt. Ida” books have some interment records for cemeteries outside of Troy and some outside of New York. Among the former, there’s some for the old Cohoes City Cemetery and Calvary Cemetery in Cohoes. There might not be burial records for those two anywhere else. There’s some for cemeteries whose location is not entirely clear. Someone was buried in “Pudge Koons Ground”, evidently a family cemetery somewhere? Maybe Warren Broderick would know. A William Schermerhorn was buried at “Albia family grounds”, but I don’t know of any family cemeteries extant there today. Some interment records have notes. Shelton Felton, d. Dec 1851, is noted to have drowned in a well and had been a veteran of the War of 1812. He’s buried in Mount Ida Cemetery, though I don’t think a headstone for him has ever been noted there. John C. Guier, d. Dec 1851, accidentally shot himself while hunting near Mt. Ida Cemetery, where he is now buried. Chris Philippo
I am descended from a Thomas Duffy, b. 1830 in Ireland (place unknown and may possibly have been born in Troy). His wife was Rosanna Fitzpatrick, b. 1823, born in Belfast, Ireland. She emigrated from Ireland with her parents to Albany, NY. They married in Albany in 1847 and her obituary has her husband listed as Mr. Thos. Duffy of Troy, N.Y. They were in the Grand Rapids area of Wisconsin by the time their first child, James Duffy was born in 1850. They went on to have a total of five children: James, George Thomas (my great grandfather), Rosetta (who married Cornelius "Con" Kenevan), Stephen, and Edward. Thomas Duffy died in Fordham, Wisconsin in 1864 and was buried in St. John the Baptist Cemetery in Montello, Wisconsin. The following year, 1865, Rosanna moved to Oakland Township, near Austin, Minnesota to live with her son, George Thomas Duffy. She lived with him until her death in 1896. Of course I would love to have any information about either her Fitzpatricks of Albany or his Duffys of Troy! If you know either of these families, please contact me. I was also interested to see if anyone has Duffy or Fitzpatrick blood who has done DNA testing so I could compare results with mine. I have tested mine with Ancestry and uploaded the results to Family Tree DNA and have it on GEDmatch, as well. Susan Mocsny Thomas
List members may be interested in the latest transcription project of the Troy Irish Genealogy Society - www.troyirish.com This project will add approximately 7,000 records to the over 200,000 records currently listed under PROJECTS on the TIGS website. If anyone would like to help with transcribing these records they can contact me off list at: seamus@nycap.rr.com The latest transcription project is an Index of Marriage Notices Appearing In Lansingburgh Newspapers - 1787-1895. This index was compiled in 1938 from the following Lansingburgh Newspapers: American Spy Federal Herald Lansingburgh Advertiser Lansingburgh Chronicle Lansingburgh Courier Lansingburgh Democrat Lansingburgh Gazette Lansingburgh Daily Gazette Lansingburgh Times Northern Centinel Lansingburgh, by the way for those not in the Capital Region, was the first chartered village in Rensselaer County and was settled around 1763. In 1900 Lansingburgh became part of the City of Troy, NY. The index contains the names of the brides and grooms with their place of residence, the date of marriage, name and date of the newspaper where the notice was published along with the page and column number where the notice can be found. Again, if interested in working on this project, please let me know. Thanks, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY
Yep, you're back in business! Sent from my iPad On Jul 1, 2014, at 6:11 PM, mymoll8@aol.com wrote: > > Received your test > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dkvaughn <dkvaughn@nycap.rr.com> > To: NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC <NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, Jul 1, 2014 10:41 am > Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] TEST > > > TEST > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for > details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== > Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: > Troy Irish Genealogy Society > www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Received your test -----Original Message----- From: dkvaughn <dkvaughn@nycap.rr.com> To: NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC <NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jul 1, 2014 10:41 am Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] TEST TEST ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Lister, TIGS is pleased to announce complimentary look ups to ALL Listers in the recently purchased American Canadian Genealogy Society books. The books have been purchased with generous donations and dues from supporting TIGS members. Look ups will be limited to 3 requests per Lister per book. Please provide: surname, first name and approximate date of the event. It will be at the volunteer's discretion to provide additional look ups. Please email the volunteer directly (off list) and they will provide you with a transcription of any information found. After the complementary look up period, the books will be donated to the Troy Library Main Branch for all to use. TIGS is striving to purchase additional books and your help would be greatly appreciated. If you are not a supporting member, please consider becoming one. Dues are only $10 per year and can be sent to: TIGS C/O Lizette Strait 1647 Spring Ave. Ext. Wynantskill, NY 12198 Please make checks out to TIGS. Happy hunting and good luck! Lizette Strait Treasurer
Hello Lister, TIGS is pleased to announce complimentary look ups to ALL Listers in the recently purchased American Canadian Genealogy Society books. The books have been purchased with generous donations and dues from supporting TIGS members. Look ups will be limited to 3 requests per Lister per book. Please provide: surname, first name and approximate date of the event. It will be at the volunteer's discretion to provide additional look ups. Please email the volunteer directly (off list) and they will provide you with a transcription of any information found. After the complementary look up period, the books will be donated to the Troy Library Main Branch for all to use. TIGS is striving to purchase additional books and your help would be greatly appreciated. If you are not a supporting member, please consider becoming one. Dues are only $10 per year and can be sent to: TIGS C/O Lizette Strait 1647 Spring Ave. Ext. Wynantskill, NY 12198 Please make checks out to TIGS. Happy hunting and good luck! Lizette Strait Treasurer ACGS Transcription Books Look Ups Please limit look ups to 3/Lister/book Below is the contact information for requesting look ups from the recently books purchased by TIGS 1. Sainte Anne, Waterford, NY Marriages and Burials (1908-2002) Chris Connell christine.connell@gmail.com <mailto:christine.connell@gmail.com> 2. St. Joan of Arc, Menands, NY Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials (1927-2005) Chris Connell christine.connell@gmail.com <mailto:christine.connell@gmail.com> 3. St. Joseph, Cohoes, NY Burials (1868-2003) Donna Vaughn dkvaughn@nycap.rr.com <mailto:dkvaughn@nycap.rr.com>
-----Original Message----- From: mymoll8 <mymoll8@aol.com> To: ny-troy-irish-gensoc <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, May 18, 2014 7:34 pm Subject: Concerning Mary Powers Kathy, The Power's you were referring to was Mary Powers who lived at 430 First St. Her aunt also lived in the house and her name was Julia Fitzgerald. Pat
All these surnames are variations of McAtee, MacAtee, McEntee, MacEntee, McIntee, MacIntee, McGinty, McGinity, Maginnity, MacGenty While some were separate septs (clans), the names, over the years, have become mixed because they are pronounced much the same. Woops, my mistake. Bessie, George and Thomas G. McGinty should indeed be > McGinity. I will make the correction. Thanks for pointing it out, Chris. > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com
I had tried posting this before when the list was down: "U.S. army private John Ingram, who served in World War II and died in 1991, had his grave stone knocked over and then replaced, but his mother’s stone right beside it, was still toppled in the freshly cut grass." Levy, Dan. “Councilman: vandalism one of the filthiest things.” WNYT. July 18, 2014 http://wnyt.com/article/stories/s3478962.shtml John Ingram’s stone in the video appears to have bare dirt behind it which would indicate that the stone had been knocked down for enough time that there was no grass under it when it was flat. If it had been knocked over recently, there would have been grass under it. Rose M. Ingram (1876-1953): photo posted February 6, 2012 shows stone flat on the ground http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=84555374&PIpi=55320516 Godfrey Kloppe (1827-1902): seen in the WNYT video in a few spots; photo posted February 6, 2012 shows stone flat on the ground http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=84555449&PIpi=55320603 Others were shown to be up in 2012, though, e.g. Pierce Dunn (1861-1861): photo posted November 28, 2012 http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=101403836&PIpi=71679481 Some damage may have been vandalism (new or old), some might have been frost heaves, ground sinking, etc. At least it’s going to be addressed, which is a good thing. Chris
Woops, my mistake. Bessie, George and Thomas G. McGinty should indeed be McGinity. I will make the correction. Thanks for pointing it out, Chris. Debby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Philippo" <toff@mac.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:03 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Schaghticoke Irish with possible Troy tie John Maginity (1815-1858) Schaghticoke Hill Methodist Churchyard http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=129245435 The cemetery’s been largely forgotten, though its new neighbor and I are trying to clean it up. I found the above headstone today under a few inches of dirt. It doesn’t seem to have been recorded before, or at any rate isn’t in the Rensselaer County Cemetery Database. These were in the database, though: McGinty Bessie 24 Mar 1872 20 Dec 1873 Schaghticoke Elmwood McGinty George 3 Aug 1887 18 Sep 1887 Schaghticoke Elmwood McGinty Thomas G. 27 Feb 1849 5 May 1916 Jane Beecroft Schaghticoke Elmwood http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyrensse/cemm7.htm The spelling of the surname is wrong in the database. Thomas G. McGinity Elmwood Cemetery, Schaghticoke http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=79320400 The John Maginty I found is the father of Thomas G. McGinity: "Jane Elizabeth Beecroft was born at Schaghticoke, Rensselaer County, New York, on April 6th 1849. She was called 'Jennie'. In 1870 she worked as a weaver in a Schaghticoke woolen mill, but on May 23rd 1871, she married in the Schaghticoke Methodist Church Thomas George McGinity, born in New York State on February 27th 1849, son of John and Mary (Engle) McGinity, both natives of Ireland." Kendall, David Martin. Beecroft. West Chazy, NY: n.p., 1964. http://www.becraft.info/docs/THENAMEBEECROFT.rtf‎ There might be others there - possibly John Maginity’s mother-in-law Martha Eingle or Engle. She was born in Ireland abt 1757 and was still alive on the 1855 NYS Census: ninety-eight years old! Possibly also related: Mary A. McGinity Baker (1855-1932) St. Joseph’s Cemetery, Troy http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=127990239 Christopher K. Philippo Glenmont, NY ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I’d tried posting this before when the list was down: A lot of stones are in such rough shape at the LVBG that it can be hard to read anything on them. They also wicked up water from sprayers as if they were sponges. We got several rows near the back more or less done. Some might need to be re-checked. There’s still some rows in the back to be done, but there seems to be relatively few headstones in them. There’s several stones that are inscription-side down, but for the time being the Lansingburgh Historical Society wasn’t comfortable with those being moved. The LHS plans to be there again Saturday the 28th, starting earlier - 8:30 AM. TIGS has scheduled for work at St. Mary’s, though. I might try to do a little work at both. There’s also going to be people at New Mount Ida - busy day! One stone that we found I was particularly happy about, Stephen Mealy Jr. (1796 - 1843). One of my correspondents, a third cousin of mine, is a Mealy and Stephen Mealy Jr. is his 4th great grandfather. Another broken stone nearby might be Stephen Mealy, Sr. (1770-1846), his 5th great grandfather. Don Rittner's Lansingburgh book has a photo of James C. Mealy’s ice truck - same family. James C. Mealy (1858-1842) was a son of Stephen A. Mealy (1826-1911), who was a son of Stephen Mealy Jr. I also stopped by Schaghticoke, and found another buried headstone there. Though the little cemetery doesn’t date back as far as the LVBG, a number of the stones are of the same era but they’re in far better shape than the ones in the LVBG. That the cemetery they’re in had been so neglected worked in their favor, in a way. I suspect the LVBG headstones in the 1970s might have been subjected to some harsh cleaning - perhaps wire brushes, pressure washing, or some kind of cleaning product like bleach or acid. I found an article from the 1970s indicating someone in Baldwinsville, Onondaga County, New York, used “muriatic acid” (AKA hydrochloric acid) on headstones he’d found in his house’s foundation to clean them. Not such a good thing to use: “Hydrochloric acid may result in ferrous chloride (rust) staining and the deposition of soluble salts." http://web.archive.org/web/20100704200952/http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iamcpcrp/pcri/cleaning.htm "A long-standing method of cleaning marble headstones is dilute hydrochloric acid ('spirits of salts'). It is effective but, as it dissolves calcium carbonate, it is very likely to remove the surface from the stone, leaving a saccharoidal (sugary) finish and its use for this is, therefore, not recommended.” Hill, P.R. and J.C.E. David. Practical Stone Masonry. NY: Routledge, 2013. 207. Many of the LVBG stones are very sugared. They also suffer from pitting and layering. "Strong acids, including muriatic acid, hydrochloric acid, or others are too harsh and will dissolve the stone surface. Because they are corrosive, they can also be hazardous to workers.” "Best Practice Recommendations for Cleaning Government-Issued Headstones." National Center for Preservation Technology and Training. http://ncptt.nps.gov/wp-content/uploads/Best-Practices-Final.pdf Some people still use it - yikes! "Alright, all we did was pick a few that had obviously not been cleaned in awhile and started spraying on the hydrochloric acid (make sure to put your gloves on). We let the acid sit for a few minutes and eat away at the hard water spots. You can hear it fizzle and see white bubbles. Then we started to scrub with our brushes, it kind of gives off a yellow appearance. Reapply as necessary.” http://loulougirls.blogspot.com/2013/05/cleaning-headstones-happy-memorial-day.html The stones *might* look better in the short run, but in the long run they might be seriously, irreparably damaged. Also not so good: “Since the beginning of the actual work on the site [the Van Schaick Burial Plot in Cohoes], the toppled stones have been righted and cleaned by sandblasting.” Galu, Joseph. “Yorkers, Girl Scouts Clean Cemetery, War Memorial.” Times Record. October 28, 1966: 23 cols 3-4. “Harsh mechanical devices such as sand blasting, or power tools such as sanders or drills equipped with a wire brush remove the original material of the grave marker.” http://ncptt.nps.gov/wp-content/uploads/Best-Practices-Final.pdf Chris
The name McGinity in the cemetery database is spelled the way it is on the tombstone. Debby Masterson, CC Rensselaer Co., GenWeb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Philippo" <toff@mac.com> To: <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:03 PM Subject: [NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC] Schaghticoke Irish with possible Troy tie John Maginity (1815-1858) Schaghticoke Hill Methodist Churchyard http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=129245435 The cemetery’s been largely forgotten, though its new neighbor and I are trying to clean it up. I found the above headstone today under a few inches of dirt. It doesn’t seem to have been recorded before, or at any rate isn’t in the Rensselaer County Cemetery Database. These were in the database, though: McGinty Bessie 24 Mar 1872 20 Dec 1873 Schaghticoke Elmwood McGinty George 3 Aug 1887 18 Sep 1887 Schaghticoke Elmwood McGinty Thomas G. 27 Feb 1849 5 May 1916 Jane Beecroft Schaghticoke Elmwood http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyrensse/cemm7.htm The spelling of the surname is wrong in the database. Thomas G. McGinity Elmwood Cemetery, Schaghticoke http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=79320400 The John Maginty I found is the father of Thomas G. McGinity: "Jane Elizabeth Beecroft was born at Schaghticoke, Rensselaer County, New York, on April 6th 1849. She was called 'Jennie'. In 1870 she worked as a weaver in a Schaghticoke woolen mill, but on May 23rd 1871, she married in the Schaghticoke Methodist Church Thomas George McGinity, born in New York State on February 27th 1849, son of John and Mary (Engle) McGinity, both natives of Ireland." Kendall, David Martin. Beecroft. West Chazy, NY: n.p., 1964. http://www.becraft.info/docs/THENAMEBEECROFT.rtf‎ There might be others there - possibly John Maginity’s mother-in-law Martha Eingle or Engle. She was born in Ireland abt 1757 and was still alive on the 1855 NYS Census: ninety-eight years old! Possibly also related: Mary A. McGinity Baker (1855-1932) St. Joseph’s Cemetery, Troy http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=127990239 Christopher K. Philippo Glenmont, NY ===NY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List=== Time for Society Members to pay up their **2014 Dues**. See the Website for details: Troy Irish Genealogy Society www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ Click ON - "JOIN TIGS NOW!" to get form. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Just found this article this afternoon. Worser and worser. > Cohoes owns part of a cemetery, and no one knows exactly what to do with it. > Mayor James E. McDonald announced today that the city pays an annuity of $22 for a portion of the Crescent Cemetery, located northwest of the Crescent Bridge, and that, if possible, he would like to sell it. > The matter was brought to the attention of the mayor last week by Mrs. Paul Bethel, secretary-treasurer of the cemetery board of trustees, who requested this year’s payment. > The cemetery plots, totaling one and 59 hundredths acres, were sold to the city in 1890 for a basic price of $795, plus $20 a year in perpetuity for the upkeep of the fence surrounding the plots and the road leading to the section. > Mayor McDonald explained the city purchased the section to relocate the bodies of Civil War veterans of Cohoes previously buried in what is now West End Park on Columbia Street. When the city decided to replace the cemetery with a park, Mayor McDonald said relocation of the graves in the Crescent Cemetery was decided upon. > “But I can’t see why we should pay this money annually,” the mayor said, “when we really aren’t getting any use out of it.” > The mayor said that when the bodies and monuments were moved out of Cohoes, the deceased all were buried in one common grave, and the monuments dumped in the Mohawk River en route to the Crescent Cemetery. A total of 172 burial plots in the area owned by Cohoes lie unused, according to a map of the cemetery requested by the mayor from the Saratoga County Clerk’s Office. > Mrs. Bethel explained the original annuity of $20 was increased two dollars in 1907. The amount was paid ever year, she said, except during [the] period from 1952 to 1965. > Mrs. Bethel said the area owned by Cohoes is in very poor condition and has not been kept. “The graves are all sunken in, and the entire area is overgrown with trees,” she said. > The matter is expected to be brought before the Common Council at its next meeting. Tompkins, Bill. “Cohoes Ponder Future of Unused Cemetery.” Times Record. March 19, 1968: 13 cols 3-4. Map of Crescent Union Cemetery with Cohoes’ section in pink: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pis&PIcrid=2281947&PIpi=67549562&PIMode=cemetery If Cohoes buried 949 people from the City Cemetery in a mass grave in Crescent (plus later burials of poor and unidentified people), I’d think it would’ve taken more than just three plots even if they were mostly just bones without coffins. Also, the terms of the bill (L. 1896, ch. 808) http://books.google.com/books?id=-RWxAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA1063 as passed and amended by the NYS Legislature and signed by the Governor involved issuing bonds not just for reinterring bodies but “to reset the monuments and gravestones” - not to dump them into the Mohawk River. I hope they didn’t really dump them. I wonder what the Common Council and Mayor decided in 1968? Chris Philippo
A. The article "Tips on Genealogy Research in Troy, NY" has been updated to identify the Catholic Church records held at the Genealogy Room at the Troy Public Library. To see this article go to the TIGS website, www.troyirish.com and click on RESOURCES and then click on TIPS ON GENEALOGY RESEARCH IN TROY, NY. B. Over 100,000 records from the following six Troy Catholic Churches are available at the library: 1. Holy Trinity - Polish Church - Closed Marriages - 704 records Baptisms - 1,974 Burials - 949 2. St. Lawrence's - German Church - Closed Marriages - 1,370 records Baptisms - 4,552 records Burials - 920 records 3. St. Joseph's - Open Marriages - 5,420 records Baptisms - 23,337 records 4. St. Patrick's - Closed Marriages - 3,917 records Baptisms - 11,493 records Burials - 4,815 records 5. St. Jean Baptiste - French Church - Closed Marriages - 1,677 records Baptisms - 5,961 records Burials - 2,705 records 6. St. Mary's - Closed Marriages - 9,790 records Baptisms - 24,040 records Burials - 5,591 records C. These Church records were published by the American Canadian Genealogy Society and a number of the books were purchased by TIGS or individual TIGS members and donated to the Troy Public Library. D. Also of interest on the TIGS website you will find the history of three of these closed churches, St. Lawrence's, St. Mary's and St. Patrick's. Click on PROJECTS and then click on CHURCH MEMORIALS AND FAMILY NAMES. E. A TIGS member has copies of the books for St. Jean Baptiste and St. Patrick's churches and will do look-ups upon request. On the TIGS website go to RESOURCES and click on LOOK-UPS - TIGS "IRISH ACTS OF KINDNESS" LIST for instructions on requesting a look up. F. TIGS had also purchased books for the following Catholic churches which will be donated soon to the Troy Library: Sainte Anne, Waterford St. Joan of Arc, Menands St. Joseph's, Cohoes Regards, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY