Dear Pat. I understand completely. The Grummon family has been around for centuries. Since most of them were illiterate farmers, it usually became left to the imagination of the census taker to spell it. for them. Even today, when we tell them our name it seems to come out sounding like alphabet soup, to them. I now go by the intent - not the spelling. Could you be related to Capt. Simeon Wainwright of Haverhill, MA, who was killed, and his home burned by Indians in 1708? Bill Grummons ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rodney A Wainwright" <rodopat@juno.com> To: <NY-OLD-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [NY-OLD-NEWS] Tioga Co., NY, January 30, 1886 #5 > Hi Bill, > I apologize for spelling your last name wrong in a previous posting. > Just got a few letters wrong. > Same thing happens to my last name of Wainwright. > I hope that I can remember Grummons instead of Grimmes. > Thanks for the Tioga Co. newspaper postings. My mother was > raised in "The Valley". > Pat Wainwright of Chemung Co > > > ==== NY-OLD-NEWS Mailing List ==== > New York Newspapers > http://www.NewspaperAbstracts.com/NY/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Rochester, Monroe, NY Rochester Republican Apr 12, 1849 DIED In this city, on the 1st inst., at the residence of the late Chas. ? BRISTOL, in the 47th year of his age, and in perfect peace, Perez N. BRADFORD. In making this statement we record the death of an upright man, a fast friend, and a sincere christian — a pure minded and warm hearted man, one who seldom made an enemy, and never lost a friend, and who emphatically lived the life and died the death of the righteous. - New York Evangelist please copy. * In Penfield, on the 2d inst, of pleurisy, Mr. Luther JASON, aged 58 years. - Massachusetts papers please copy. * In Milo, on the 25th ult., George L. BENNETT, aged 21 years. * In Jersey City, N. J., on the 25th ult., Mr. Henry M. MEADE, aged 55 years. Mr. MEADE was in the U. C. Army in the late war with Great Britain. He entered the Army as Lieutenant at about the age of 19, and was for several months stationed in Batavia. * In Stafford, on the 24th ult, Harvey SWEATLAND, Esq., aged 61 years. * In Hudson, on the 28th ult., James DUFF, Jr., Cashier of the Farmers' Bank of that city, aged (maybe 44) years. * In New York, on the 28th ult., William HART, formerly a merchant of Troy, aged 53 years. * In Litchfield, Conn., March 30th, Nathaniel Rochester CHILD, son of N. R. and E. P. CHILD, aged 10 months. * In York, Livingston Co., on the 4th inst., Cyril CHILD, brother of John CHILD, of this city, aged 66 years. * At Milwaukie, Wis., Susan L., wife of Levi HUBBELL, and daughter of the late Simeon De WITT, of Albany. * In Buffalo, on the 31st ult., Mrs. Emily Eliza, wife of A. J. TIFFANY, aged 38 years. * At his late residence in Pittsford, on Wednesday the 4th inst., John ACER, aged 70 years. Mr. ACER was one of the oldest and most respectable residents of this county, and resignedly closed a long and active life in the full faith and hope of the Gospel of Peace. * In Savannah, Georgia, on the 24th ult, Mary L. CLARK, aged 20 years, daughter of Wm. N. and Theresa CLARK, of Geneva. * In Greigsville, on the 5th inst., Mrs. S. C. DICKEY, wife of J. P. DICKEY, aged 42 years. * In Geneseo, on the 5th inst., Mr. Elias P. CLARK, aged 49 years. * In Greigsville, on the 4th inst., Cyrel CHILD, aged 66 years. * In Mt. Morris, on the 2d inst., Rev. Elihu MASON, after a long and painful illness of 21 years, aged 67 years. * In Mt. Morris, on the 31 ult, of consumption, Geo. GORHAM, son of James T., (one of the editors of the Union,) and Eveline NORTON, aged 6 years, 6 months, 19 days. * At Colebrook, Ashtabula Co., Ohio, on the (14?)th ult., Olive NORTH, of Alexander, Genesee Co., N. Y., and mother of Noah NORTH of Mt. Morris, aged 63 years. * In Chili, on Sunday, the 5th inst., William PIXLEY, Jr. son of Wm. PIXLEY, Esq., aged about 18 years. * In Parishville, St. Lawrence County, March(6 or 8th), Mr. Johnathan LONG, one of the early settlers of that county, aged 69 years. * In this city, on the 30th ult, of consumption, Marion Amelia, eldest daughter of C. C. BRONSON, aged 11 years and 4 months. * In Scottsville, on the 9th ult., Betsey Amelia, wife of James WELLS, aged 34 years. ** Find ALL of the News Abstracts for Monroe Co., NY at http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/NY/Monroe/index.html -- GjS

Rochester, Monroe, NY Rochester Republican Apr 12, 1849 INDICTED FOR MANSLAUGHTER - At the late term of the Orleans County Oyer and Terminer, Daniel and Michael HANLEY were found guilty of manslaughter in the first degree, on an indictment of murder, in taking the life of Daniel McGUIRE, in Medina, on the night of August 15th, 1847. -- Alexander O’MALLEY, involved in the same affray was discharged from custody, no testimony appearing on the trial of the HANLEYS, implicating him in the affair. ** DR. DICK — A Canada paper says that Dr. DICK, whose works are familiar to so many in this country, has expressed his intention of visiting the United States during the approaching summer. Dr. DICK has near relatives residing in Canada, one of whom is a Methodist clergymen. ** DOUBLE ATTEMPT AT MURDER — Mr. EASTERBROOK, of Albany, went to New York on Thursday, in pursuit of his wife, whom he found at the Howard House. He fired a pistol at her, but it did not take effect and she escaped from the room.-- EASTERBROOK then shot himself with another pistol. He has been arrested. The Albany Knickerbocker says: “We have a letter from him, dated New York, April 4th, in which he threatens to expose certain individuals who have had acquaintances with the woman.” ** MARRIED In Penn Yan, on the 28th ult, Mr. George ? ANDERSON, of Dresden, to Miss Math?da J. PEARCE, of Waterloo. In Penn Yan, on the ?? ult., James SAVAGE to Miss Fidelia SIMMON, both of that place. In Alabama, on the 29th ult, Dea. Wm. MACOMBER to Mrs. Marietta M. ROE, late the widow of Rev. G. M. ROE, all of that place. On Wednesday evening on the 4th inst., at St. Luke’s Church, by Rev. Mr. LEE, Mr. Lewis DICKEY to Miss Elizabeth WESTBURY, all of this city. In Palmyra, on the 5th inst., by Rev. J. W. FRENCH, Leonard Walter JEROME, of this city, to Miss Clarissa, youngest daughter of the late Ambrose HALL, of the former place. In this city, on the 3d inst, by Rev. C. HAMMOND, Mr. Rufus STACY to Miss Lydia L. SHAVER. In Wheatland, on Thursday, the 6th inst., by Rev. Mr. ASHMUN, of Riga, Mr. Volney LACY, of Riga, and Miss Elizabeth YOUD?N, of Wheatland. In Wheatland, on the 5th inst., at the Parsonage by the Rev. H. K. STIMSON, Mr. Wm. OSBORN and Miss Louisa LOVERIDGE, both of Riga. In New York, by L. P. GR?N?IS, Esq., Geo. Dewitt CLINTON, of N. York, to Miss Lavinia J. ELKINS, of Plainfield, N. J. At Trenton Dodge Co., Wisconsin, on the 7th ult., William BUTLER to Susan BAILEY; Edward BUTLER to Harriet BAILEY; and James BAILEY to Harriet BUTLER, all of that place. In Galen, on the 5th inst., Mr. J. T. VAN BUSKIRK to Miss P. S. SYRON, all of that place. On the 5th inst., Mr. Isaac BARTON to Miss Mary BOSS, both of Lyons. In Le Roy, on the 8th inst., by Rev. H. K. STIMSON, Mr. Wm. DAVIS and Miss Mary CROWFOOT, both of Le Roy. ** Find ALL of the News Abstracts for Monroe Co., NY at http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/NY/Monroe/index.html -- GjS

Nina- why don't you do as was suggested earlier: call your library (since you say you "cannot go there")and request microfilm from your desired portion of NYstate's 62 counties on interlibrary loan and then you can type up a reel of whatever would please you ? I'm glad you want more than "just Rochester"---because that is what you are getting! Glenda does hers from the Democrat and Chronicle, which comes out of Rochester, but if you read thru most of them, you will find articles from other areas throughout NYstate. I use various papers from out of Genesee county--which covers thirteen towns, since 1840--it covered more than that pre-1840. Many of my submissions also cover state-wide news of interest to most people. I do hope you re-consider your viewpoint on this, Nina, as it is a state-wide mailing list--without any other restrictions. There is nothing saying that submissions have to be balanced and weighed with equal submissions from every region. And in regard to this question you had:>>Linda. if others are submitting > articles, where are they?<< I suggest you just go look at the Archives of Newspapers we've placed online and see for yourself. I re-iterate my first comment to you--if you can't do something to help fix it, don't complain (and writing your emails to >>have piqued the interest of someone in the Hudson Valley or up near the border to "go to your library and submit articles", <<-- that is NOT helping--that is getting someone else to do what you want to see done! Why don't you start a mailing list for the county you want to see articles from? Why don't you write or call historical societies and have them copy articles for you to type up? A wise man once said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." Linda

AMEN!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <MuskratBay@aol.com> To: <NY-OLD-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [NY-Old-News] Re: Surname AHERN - let's let everyone contribute > Why do people have to be so petty?? If someone submits articles on one name, > it doesn't matter, it may help someone else eventually. Isn't that why we are > doing genealogy??? I'm sure there were other surnames connected with Mr. > AHERN's articles. > > Let's focus on the big important things in life & stop complaining about the > small stuff. Just delete what you don't wish to read or have time to read. > Let other people enjoy contributions others have taken the time to give. > > In our daily lives others that we come in contact are not a generous as those > who make contributions to any of the Genealogy related lists that are on the > Internet. Please don't complain and curtail someone's generosity. Let people > continue to give, eventually "you" will receive due to the goodness of > someone else! > > Glenda has helped me in many, many ways & she also has helped countless > others. And yes, this is a very expensive hobby, which one must be sure to > budget for (both time & money). > > However, it can be so rewarding! I have personally united two different > families (half brother to half brother & sister; and half brother to half > sister). Both of these families are extremely grateful that I had the > resources that would help me (Glenda was instrumental as well as others who > looked up information I requested.) I will always give them credit for > assisting me, I never claim all of the credit. > > I have been contacted by distant cousins that I never knew due to the > information I had posted (or others have posted for me) on the Internet. The > surnames I have posted wouldn't be important to most people, but it has been > important for a few. I'm glad no one censured my postings. let's not censure > Mr. AHERN! > > Glenda, you will do fine with your cataract surgery. My mother is going > through it right now also. Contact me privately if you want to ask my mother > any questions or discuss your progress with her. She'll be glad to talk to > you about it. (MuskratBay@aol.com) > > Happy 4th of July everyone, and please do not forget about everyone's freedom > of speech!!! Remember, it will help you out at sometime, somewhere, somehow! > > Anne Ruggeri > Brewerton, NY > > > > > > > > ==== NY-OLD-NEWS Mailing List ==== > New York Newspapers > http://www.NewspaperAbstracts.com/NY/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.371 / Virus Database: 206 - Release Date: 6/13/2002

Hi Bill, I apologize for spelling your last name wrong in a previous posting. Just got a few letters wrong. Same thing happens to my last name of Wainwright. I hope that I can remember Grummons instead of Grimmes. Thanks for the Tioga Co. newspaper postings. My mother was raised in "The Valley". Pat Wainwright of Chemung Co

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, Warren and Frances Anderson wrote: > clue. Actually there was a bit of a clue the other day regarding the child > of Chester Keyes. I've been looking for ANY information on him and today it Any relation to the Keyes whose mother-in-law was the last person to board the last lifeboat launched from the Titanic? See http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/MA/Middlesex/1912/APR.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Middlesex County Massachusetts Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/MA/Middlesex/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Nina, As someone who subscribes to many of the Rootsweb lists in NYS, I can tell you that the Rochester group is the most active when it comes to transcriptions. It has been for years. Plus they are one of the most helpful in the state of NY. That is the type of people that are connected with that list. It would be great to get others in the state to be as active as Glenda, Linda, and Dennis and the many others that I have seen helping others around the state. No, it is not always possible for people to have access to libraries, FHC, etc. Some people are confined to their homes, but have access to computers that opens the world up to them once again. Many of the articles I have read are amusing, and no, many names are not related to anyone in my family as of yet..... but might be one day as I get the time to do more searching. So, you get tired of repetition, well, that can't be helped. We didn't submit those names to the newspapers back in the 1800s or 1900s. Maybe OUR names as you mentioned, never made it in the paper. If Dennis is researching the AHERN's why would he want to write about the RUGGERI's if he doesn't have any in his family. (only as an example, since that is my last name.) Please remember we only have a certain amount of time each day that we can relax & do genealogy. We tend to only submit things of interest to ourselves or things that we have looked up for others that we want to help. Hopefully others will find the time to transcribe, but if not, please don't criticize anyone who does take the time. I know I appreciate all their time & effort!!! Anne Ruggeri Brewerton, NY

Many thanks to those who take the time to write up the newspaper articles. I scan nearly everyone that comes hoping there will be something. --AND-- today in the midst of the discussion on the this list today, I have found a clue. Actually there was a bit of a clue the other day regarding the child of Chester Keyes. I've been looking for ANY information on him and today it looks like I may have a little lead. So, THANK YOU, for passing these on today. Sincerely, Frances Anderson ----- Original Message ----- From: <GSubyak@aol.com> To: <NY-OLD-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 11:36 AM Subject: [NY-Old-News] >> Monroe Co., NY Apr 5, 1849 # 3 > Rochester, Monroe, NY > Rochester Republican > Apr 5, 1849 > > DIED > > In Mendon on the 29(?)th inst., after a lingering illness, Mr. Festus BUR?, > aged 66 years. Mr. B. was one of the early ?lon?ers of Western New York - > having resided in the town of Mendon, ver ?? years. He leaves a large circle > of relatives and friends to mourn his decease. The deceased was a brother to > widow E. HAMILTON, of this city, consort of Dr. S. HAMILTON, lately deceased. > * > In this city, on Tuesday afternoon the 27th inst., of consumption, Mrs. > Maryette, wife of Chester KEYES, aged 31 years. > * > At Palmyra, Mary Alida TUCKER, daughter of the Editor of the Sentinel, aged 2 > years and 8 months. > * > In Portage, Liv. Co., on the 15th inst., Mrs. Isabel LA??, wife of Robert > HOPE, aged 61 years. > * > In Constan?ine, Mich., on the 8th of February last George B. STEELE, son of > Rev. Julius STEELE, aged 23 years. > In the same place, on the 20th of February Rev. Julius STEELE, aged 61 years. > Mr. STEELE was formerly Pastor of the Presbyterian Church of Warsaw. > * > In Pavilion(?), on the 2?th inst., Mr. Henry REED aged 55 years. > * > In Warsaw, on the 23d inst., Nathan SCOVIL, aged 78 years. > * > In Warsaw, as the 25th inst., Mrs. Sophrona WHITNEY, aged 44 years. > * > In Canandaigua on the 26th inst., Widow Mary SPENCER, aged 67 years. > * > In this city, on Friday morning the 30th inst., of influenza, Me?itabl? Ruth, > wife of William R. GIFFORD, in the 26th year of her age. > * > At the Insane Asylum, Utica, on the 18th inst., Mrs. Anna SUT?IFF, wife of > Norma SUTI??, formerly of Almond, Allegany Co., aged 46 years. > * > In this city, on the 30th inst., Capt. Alexander WE?D, aged 79 years and 6 > months. A soldier of the Revolution. Formerly a resident of Scipto(?), Cayuga > County.-Auburn papers please copy. > * > In this city, on the 1st inst., of consumption, Sophia, wife of Job B??LUT, > aged 58 years. Buffalo and Belville, C. W. papers please copy. > * > In Clyde, on the 25th ult., Rev. Luke MORLEY father of the editor of the > Palmyra Courier, aged 65 years. > ** > > > Find ALL of the News Abstracts for Monroe Co., NY at > http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/NY/Monroe/index.html > > -- > GjS > > > ==== NY-OLD-NEWS Mailing List ==== > County and State Coordinators needed. For more information see: > http://www.NewspaperAbstracts.com/volunteer.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, to all who replied, pro and con (3 each, so far): I do appreciate all the work that is done, but we want more than just Rochester--the area names are now familiar by repetition, but they are not OUR names. Dennis, I am happy that there were so many newsworthy Aherns, but what about the millions of other New Yorkers? Linda. if others are submitting articles, where are they? The only "new face" I've seen is Bill Grummons! And to those who say "Go to your library": I would LOVE to be able to go to a library, but I can't. Yes, I have found cousins and old friends through the internet, but not from newspapers. My intent is not to "ruin" things for anyone, and I certainly did not expect to stir up a tempest in a teapot, I just hoped to find articles from other of the 62 NY counties. If I have piqued the interest of someone in the Hudson Valley or up near the border to "go to your library and submit articles", I will be happy. I await the results. Nina Searching: SWIM, GINNER/GINGER, BUTLER, PAVEK, DREW, CURRY in NY

RE: >>A very successful pound party was held Each gentleman paid one-fourth of a cent per pound for the lady accompanied to supper..<< Wow! who can deny that these old newsies aren't fun to read??!!! and who knows---maybe one of our readers will take an idea here and make use of it - ("Everything old is new again!") Can you imagine getting weighed before dining ???!!!!! : ( thanks for this gem, Bill, : )Linda

Rochester, Monroe, NY Rochester Republican Apr 5, 1849 DIED In Mendon on the 29(?)th inst., after a lingering illness, Mr. Festus BUR?, aged 66 years. Mr. B. was one of the early ?lon?ers of Western New York - having resided in the town of Mendon, ver ?? years. He leaves a large circle of relatives and friends to mourn his decease. The deceased was a brother to widow E. HAMILTON, of this city, consort of Dr. S. HAMILTON, lately deceased. * In this city, on Tuesday afternoon the 27th inst., of consumption, Mrs. Maryette, wife of Chester KEYES, aged 31 years. * At Palmyra, Mary Alida TUCKER, daughter of the Editor of the Sentinel, aged 2 years and 8 months. * In Portage, Liv. Co., on the 15th inst., Mrs. Isabel LA??, wife of Robert HOPE, aged 61 years. * In Constan?ine, Mich., on the 8th of February last George B. STEELE, son of Rev. Julius STEELE, aged 23 years. In the same place, on the 20th of February Rev. Julius STEELE, aged 61 years. Mr. STEELE was formerly Pastor of the Presbyterian Church of Warsaw. * In Pavilion(?), on the 2?th inst., Mr. Henry REED aged 55 years. * In Warsaw, on the 23d inst., Nathan SCOVIL, aged 78 years. * In Warsaw, as the 25th inst., Mrs. Sophrona WHITNEY, aged 44 years. * In Canandaigua on the 26th inst., Widow Mary SPENCER, aged 67 years. * In this city, on Friday morning the 30th inst., of influenza, Me?itabl? Ruth, wife of William R. GIFFORD, in the 26th year of her age. * At the Insane Asylum, Utica, on the 18th inst., Mrs. Anna SUT?IFF, wife of Norma SUTI??, formerly of Almond, Allegany Co., aged 46 years. * In this city, on the 30th inst., Capt. Alexander WE?D, aged 79 years and 6 months. A soldier of the Revolution. Formerly a resident of Scipto(?), Cayuga County.-Auburn papers please copy. * In this city, on the 1st inst., of consumption, Sophia, wife of Job B??LUT, aged 58 years. Buffalo and Belville, C. W. papers please copy. * In Clyde, on the 25th ult., Rev. Luke MORLEY father of the editor of the Palmyra Courier, aged 65 years. ** Find ALL of the News Abstracts for Monroe Co., NY at http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/NY/Monroe/index.html -- GjS

The Daily News Batavia, Genesee County, New York State August 9-1897 NO TRACES OF POISON. Professor LATTIMORE's Report in the Case of Mrs. William BAILEY. Coroner BARRINGER's inquest in the case of Mrs. William BAILEY, who died suddenly on June 25th at the home of her parents, Mr. and Mrs. Charles TRIETLEY, on South Liberty street, was proceeded with in the courtroom of the Schaefer building this afternoon at 2 o'clock. The inquest has been adjourned several times, awaiting the report of Professor LATTIMORE of Rochester, to whom portions of the body were submitted for analysis. All the jurors were present this afternoon except William D. SMITH. Coroner BARRINGER read a communication from Professor LATTIMORE, who stated in it that on June 25th the Coroner and District Attorney LeSEUR submitted to him for chemical analysis a stomach, a watery greenish colored fluid said to be vomited matter, and a section of a liver, with six small powders, to ascertain if they contained any poisonous substance. The Professor's conclusions are as follows: "I have to report to you that I am fully warranted in my conclusion that the materials which you submitted for my examination contain no foreign substance which would account for the congested condition of the mucous membrane of the stomach or for the death of the subject." The statement is sworn to. The powders were found to contain colonel, their average weight being seven-tenths of a grain. ***** Daily News Batavia, Genesee County, New York State August 10-1897 WHAT CAUSED DEATH? Demise of Mrs. William BAILEY is Still a Mystery. Following the reading of yesterday afternoon of Professor LATTIMORE's sworn statement to the eight jurors empanelled by Coroner BARRINGER to investigate the death of Mrs. William F. BAILEY three witnesses were sworn and at 4:30 o'clock an adjournment was taken until 8 p.m. The witnesses were Dr. H.A. MORSE and Dr. Ward B. WHITCOMB, who helped perform the autopsy on Mrs. BAILEY's remains, and Dr. MANCHESTER, who was the attending physician and who was also present at the post mortem. After their evidence had been received Coroner BARRINGER said: "Gentlemen, you have listened to the evidence of four witnesses and men of good standing in their profession. Three of these have sworn that they are unable to account for the death of Mrs. BAILEY except that it was the result in their opinion of some corrosive poison. The chemist himself does not account for the death, and I think that it is your duty and mine to proceed with the investigation. If this young woman has met with a violent death by the self administration of poison or at the hands of others it is our duty to sift the matter to the bottom. Professor LATTIMORE told me personally that the stomach looked as if it had come in contact with some corrosive agent. It remains for the jurors to say whether the circumstances warrant a continuance of the proceedings. There is one important matter that has failed to come out in the evidence and that is that when the autopsy was performed the blood, with the exception of the heart clot, was found to be in an extremely fluid state and of a bright pink color. Now, if a volatile oil was used such conditions would result. I think that all the circumstances tend to show that the death was an unnatural one, and, this being so, it deserves a thorough investigation." The jurors agree with the Coroner and advocated a speedy and uninterrupted investigation. Dr. MORSE, when he was on the stand, stated that he assisted in the autopsy on the remains of the dead woman on June 25th last, in which R. WHITCOMB, the Coroner, and Dr. MANCHESTER took part. The remains showed no exterior marks of disease. "We removed the heart, liver, lungs, intestines, stomach and other organs," Dr. Morse said, "and examined each carefully. We also discovered that the woman was pregnant and the child in a normal condition. There was a slight disease affecting the afterbirth, but not of a sufficiently severe nature to cause death." Dr. MORSE added that no trace of disease, sufficient to cause death, was found. "The conditions," he said, "were such as are found in cases of death from an irritant poison. I have seen a number of cases where the symptoms were almost the same. The only one I now recollect, however, is that of Joseph HEIDE of Batavia, whose stomach looked the same and gave evidence of arsenical poisoning. The only difference was that in HEIDE's stomach particles of a white substance were found. I have never seen a death like this before except from an irritant and I am forced to say that if this was not the cause I am at loss to assign any reason. I am surprised at the finding of the chemist." E.O. BONSTEEL, a juror, asked Dr. MORSE if it would probably have been discovered at the autopsy if oil of tansy had been taken. "Yes," he replied, "we would expect to smell it. Excessive vomiting, however, might cause it to pass off so as not to be discoverable. Dr. LATTIMORE told me that the condition of the stomach was such as he would expect to find in a case of death from an irritant poison." Dr. MORSE did not think that the woman's death could be accounted for by her previous history. He deemed it a very strange and inexplicable case. The witness said that a woman living in the neighborhood had told him that Mrs. BAILEY had said on one occasion that she did not care whether she lived or died. This showed a tendency towards depression. The Coroner also said that he had heard of the girl being depressed and morose. There were some argument as to how long the chemist, who at the time was connected with the BENHAM case, had delayed his labors, as it was thought that delay, even if the jars containing the organs that were examined were sealed, might render the analysis of no material benefit. Dr. MANCHESTER testified that the dead woman was a sufferer from St. Vitus's dance. He testified briefly to the occasions when he had called on her and stated that he had at no time considered her symptoms serious. He was present at the autopsy, but neither from what he had learned there nor observed when attending her had he been able to form any opinion as to the cause of her death. Dr. WHITCOMB's evidence was largely of a corroboratory nature. He testified to finding the different organs in good condition, excepting the stomach. There was, he said, no evidence of heart disease. The condition of the stomach resembled arsenical poisoning, with the exception that no flakes were in evidence. He could, aside from the corrosiveness, see nothing which would cause death. "I am frank to say," concluded the witness, "that if Mrs. BAILEY's death was not caused by some corrosive poison I don't know what the cause of death was." William F. BAILEY, the woman's husband, was on the stand at the evening session. He stated that he had been married eleven months. His wife, during her last sickness, complained frequently of severe headache, to which she was subject. She was naturally cheerful and spoke with pleasure of the advent of the child. An adjournment was taken until 8 o'clock this evening. + + Daily News Batavia, Genesee County, New York State August 10-1897 UNKNOWN TO THE JURY. The Cause of Mrs. BAILEY's Death Not Determined. After many adjournments, the employing of an expert chemist and the listening to medical evidence tending to show that Mrs. William F. BAILEY's death was an unnatural and peculiar one, Coroner BARRINGER's jury last night at 11:15 o'clock rendered the following verdict which leaves her strange death as much a mystery as ever, and the BAILEY case will probably pass down in history as one which has never been satisfactorily explained: "We the undersigned called as Coroner's jury to investigate the death of Mrs. Libbie BAILEY on June 25, 1897, find upon the testimony of witnesses that she came to her death from some cause or causes unknown to the jury." It was 8:45 o'clock before the proceedings were gotten under way in the courtroom of the Shafer building last evening. There were only two witnesses sworn, Mr. and Mrs. Charles TRIETLY, the parents of the dead woman. The father testified in regard to his daughter's illness. He said that she had never to is knowledge made any complaint regarding her domestic life and seemed happy and contended as far as he could see. Mrs. TRIETLY stated that her daughter was last up and about the house on the Wednesday night preceding the morning of her death, which occurred on Friday. On this occasion the daughter wanted something to relieve a pain in her abdomen. The witness gave her some brandy. On Wednesday morning, the witness said, her daughter's eyes were all puffed out. The brandy which Mrs. BAILEY took during the night was thrown up. On Thursday Mrs. BAILEY vomited some fruit which she had eaten. On the afternoon of that day she was very ill, with a violent pain in the head. She constantly exclaimed: "Oh my head will split, my head will burst!" Salt water, given to her to settle her stomach, was vomited. Mrs. TRIETLY testified to her daughter's happy family relations and to her death on Friday morning. The evidence closed at 10 o'clock. The Coroner remained in the jury room while the jurors deliberated. The oil in the lamp gave out and they repaired to GILLETTE & PRENTICE's store, where the deliberations were concluded. Drs. MORSE and WHITCOMB, who performed the autopsy on Mrs. BAILEY, both say that the statement credited to Coroner BARRINGER in The News last evening to the effect that pink blood was found during the autopsy was incorrect. The physicians say that the blood was dark. + + submitted by Linda C. Schmidt

What a magnificent genealogical find of people over 75 in the year 1882! Thanks, Linda.

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Linda, Glenda and all the others who spend their valuable time developing these wonderful news reports. Thank you so much. We are all very grateful for your efforts. Although I seldom find information on ancestors I am researching, I try to read every report that you send. As time goes on I am sure other parts of the state will find reporters as dedicated you as you folks. Mike

Rochester, Monroe, NY Rochester Republican Apr 5, 1849 More Deaths from Cholera on the Mississippi River - Health in New Orleans, & c Louisville, March 25, 1849 A number of steamers have arrived at this port from New Orleans, with the Cholera on board, which is said to be again quite prevalent in that city. Some fourteen deaths had occurred on board the steamer Bride and many more were still sick. The George Washington lost fifteen of her passengers previous to her arrival at Memphis. On board the Creole three deaths had occurred. The weather at New Orleans is very hot and sultry, and much sickness prevailed among the emigrants arriving at that port.--{Telegraph to N. Y. papers.] **** Powder Mill Explosion — The powder mill at Allen’s Creek, in the town of Brighton, about five miles from the city, was blown up at about half past nine o’clock yesterday morning. A man named ROSS, who was in the mill at the time of the explosion, was blown across the creek, and horribly mangled. We hear that he has since died. We have not learned the cause of the explosion. The mill was owned by Mansfield PARSONS. The glass in windows of houses in the neighborhood were all broken out. We have not learned the amount of Mr. PARSON’S loss. **** Brevet to Maj. H. W. MERRILL — The President of the United States, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, has conferred upon our friend Capt. MERRILL, of Batavia, of the regular army, the rank of Major by Brevet, to rank from the eighth day of September, 1847, for gallant and meritorious conduct in the battle of Molino del Rey. Capt. MERRILL is a gallant officer, and is well worthy of the compliment conferred upon him. — He served with distinction as an officer in the Florida and Mexican wars, and in his intercourse with the world, his deportment is that of a gentleman. **** Peter COLLE, of Utica, went on a hunting excursion on Saturday last, and returning in the night, fell from the edge of the guard lock in West Utica, on the ice, severely injured. From appearances; he must have crawled some distance on his hands and knees on the ice. He was found dead in the morning. The night was very dark, as all will remember who had occasion to notice it. — The deceased was a man of temperate habits. He left a wife and one child. **** The Ten Hour Bill, as it passed the House on Friday, prescribes ten hours as a day’s labor, except in agricultural and domestic employments. The provisions are stringent against the employment of persons under 12 years of age, more than eight hours a day. Those under 6, are not to be employed at all in factories, &c. **** A Just Verdict — A verdict of $18,000 has been given at Montreal against the proprietors of the North Upper Canada stages, for injuries sustained by Mr. RUSSELL in consequence of the intoxication of a driver. Mr. R. was precipitated into the water, which resulted in the loss of his feet and hands. **** MARRIED On the morning of the 2?th, by the Rev. J. ? SHAW, Isaac S. WARRING to Miss Mary E., daughter of Emily MILLER, of Irondequoit. On Tuesday Evening, the ?0th inst., Nathaniel S. GRAVES and Miss Frances M. EDDY, both of Lockport. On the 15th inst., at Bridgewater, Oneida Co., by the Rev. Mr. BRACE(?), of Utica, Mr. Gould H. PARKHURST to Mrs. Hanna M. BROCKWAY, of the former place. In Batavia, on the 2?th inst, Mr. Joseph CLARKE to Miss Sarah Adelaide, daughter of Levi BROCK?BANK, Esq., of Phelps. In Lyons, on the 21st inst., Joseph H. GALUSHA of Lyons, to Miss Catharine S., daughter of the late Walter R. MORRIS, Esq., of Albany. In Lyons, on the 21st inst., J. Gardiner VAN WICKLE, to Ann, daughter of Nelson GIFFORD, Esq., all of Lyons. In New Orleans, on the 7th inst., Mr. David L. VAN OSBORN(?), of that city, to Miss Mary C. THAYER, formerly of Lockport. In C?m?na, on the 21st inst., James W. ONDERDONK, of Greece, Monroe county, to Miss Fanny daughter of John GOU(L?) D. Jr. Esq., of the former place. In Le Roy, on the 22d inst., Andrew J. SPRAGUE, of Churchville, to Miss Elsie HE?ES. In this city, on Thursday evening the 29th, inst., by Rev. John ? RO???, Mr. William RICE to Miss Elizabeth MIX daughter of Mr. Wm. MIX, of this city. On the 15th inst., W. ??TENBROKE to Miss ?heb A. daughter of the Rev. W. O?B??D both of (Arcadia?) In Brockport, on the 21st inst. Myron H. BRONSON to Miss Hester A. MEAD, both of Brockport. In Geneseo, on the 28th inst., by Rev. L. RICHMOND, Joseph T. BACON to Miss Mary SMITH, both of Geneseo. ** Find ALL of the News Abstracts for Monroe Co., NY at http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/NY/Monroe/index.html -- GjS

Why do people have to be so petty?? If someone submits articles on one name, it doesn't matter, it may help someone else eventually. Isn't that why we are doing genealogy??? I'm sure there were other surnames connected with Mr. AHERN's articles. Let's focus on the big important things in life & stop complaining about the small stuff. Just delete what you don't wish to read or have time to read. Let other people enjoy contributions others have taken the time to give. In our daily lives others that we come in contact are not a generous as those who make contributions to any of the Genealogy related lists that are on the Internet. Please don't complain and curtail someone's generosity. Let people continue to give, eventually "you" will receive due to the goodness of someone else! Glenda has helped me in many, many ways & she also has helped countless others. And yes, this is a very expensive hobby, which one must be sure to budget for (both time & money). However, it can be so rewarding! I have personally united two different families (half brother to half brother & sister; and half brother to half sister). Both of these families are extremely grateful that I had the resources that would help me (Glenda was instrumental as well as others who looked up information I requested.) I will always give them credit for assisting me, I never claim all of the credit. I have been contacted by distant cousins that I never knew due to the information I had posted (or others have posted for me) on the Internet. The surnames I have posted wouldn't be important to most people, but it has been important for a few. I'm glad no one censured my postings. let's not censure Mr. AHERN! Glenda, you will do fine with your cataract surgery. My mother is going through it right now also. Contact me privately if you want to ask my mother any questions or discuss your progress with her. She'll be glad to talk to you about it. (MuskratBay@aol.com) Happy 4th of July everyone, and please do not forget about everyone's freedom of speech!!! Remember, it will help you out at sometime, somewhere, somehow! Anne Ruggeri Brewerton, NY

The Daily News Batavia, Genesee County, New York State August 11-1897 DEATH OF JUDGE LORISH. Warsaw.--The Hon. Andrew J. LORISH, County Judge of Wyoming county, died at his home in this village this morning at 4 o'clock. His death was the result of a stroke of paralysis with which he was stricken while on an Erie train between Warsaw and Attica on the morning of March 6, 1896. His left side was affected and it was feared that the shock would prove immediately fatal, but he recovered sufficiently to be able to attend to his duties as County Judge and Surrogate. He leaves a widow and one daughter. Andrew Jackson LORISH was born in South Dansville, Steuben county, November 8, 1832, being the seventh of a family of twelve children. When he was fourteen years old his family removed to Linden, where Mr. LORISH remained until reaching his majority, attending the district school during the winter and in the summer working on the farm. The last two winters of his school life were spent at Bethany Academy, to which he walked from his home, a distance of three miles, each day. He then taught in district schools for a few years and in 1856 entered the office of the Hon. Solomon HUBBARD of Dansville and began the study of law. After remaining a year in Dansville he went to Attica and continued his studies with the late Justice Thomas CORTLETT and after being admitted to the bar formed a partnership with the latter. He enlisted in the 130th regiment in 1862, and remained in the service until June, 1865, when he was honorably discharged and returned to Attica and resumed the practice of law. Mr. LORISH was elected a Justice of the Peace in 1860, and in 1871 was appointed postmaster at Attica, holding the office continuously for 16 years. He was elected County Judge and Surrogate of Wyoming county in 1889 and re-elected in 1895. He was always an unswerving Republican and stood high in the councils of his party and as a citizen. + + SUING FOR $20,000 DAMAGES. William W. HAWLEY, a brakeman on the New York Central railroad, who at that time lived on Evans street in Batavia, was killed in Rochester on March 15, 1896, by falling under the cars near the Ames street crossing. He was head brakeman on a freight train, the entire crew of which lived in Batavia. He had been in the cab of the engine to warm himself, it being a cold night, and, after leaving it, was never seen alive again. HAWLEY left a widow and three children, who soon after his death removed to Rochester, where they formerly lived. Mrs. HAWLEY has now instituted a suit for damages against the company, claiming the sum of $20,000 on the ground that the death of her husband was due to the negligence of the company. A defective drawhead is alleged as the cause. The company's answer denies responsibility for the accident. HAWLEY was the son of Phineas V. HAWLEY, a coal dealer in Rochester. He was 28 years old. + + submitted by Linda C. Schmidt