thank you all for help on look up i dont know a whole lot more on my birth parents but;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; i just spent the last hour on the phone with my adopted moms nephew my (thru adoption) cousin anyone ever heard of a food chain that sold sandwiches out of machines in ny called something like horn and hartard???????? thehe really didnt know anythin about my family but knew we were adopted and said that my adop mom told them that she suspected my middle sister donna born 1959 was possibly the birth child of my adopted father and we did suspect that ourselves at one time. he also said that my adopt dad got all of us children and my a mom had nothing to do with it he apparently arrange it all. and the other 2 of us may have the same mother or father which would be ellen 10/57 and me as donna 1959 would be his natural . so at least now i am looking for more than one birth family involved for us 3 as all along we thought they were the same parents so i guess im further along then i was. im concinced now that because he was very influential that it was a private adoption handled thru atorney and money exchanged. they were living on 4th avenue in new york where he was a super of the building when at least 1 or 2 of us possibly all 3 of us girls were born. although my earliest memories are about 4-6 in brooklyn ny jo-ann jo-ann