After sleeping on this, I have to correct what I said yesterday. The naming of relationships is probably reliant on when the claim was made and/or the submitter/reviewer. I'm posting a separate note on that pension-- and probably a follow up when the next 99 pages get here. LydBeach@aol.com wrote: > I have Abram's pension file and no names but I did get a > description of him, blonde hair, blue eyes, 6 foot tall. I don't recall seeing a description in a pension file. Are you sure you don't have his service record? Or if you have a pension file, are you sure you have the whole thing? >He is my ggrandfather and I can't find his death date, altho his wife filed >for the pension in 1907. She didn't have to fill out all the particulars of his service, their marriage, & his death on the application? Not even his date of death? Even without it- a death certificate is something you'll want to get. If you have a marriage date, you might want to look at the local papers- They often mentioned parents. >I have been to the town clerks here where they lived and they don't have any >information on their volunteering or entering service. For finding out about their service, I have often seen recommended & mean to get it myself- Author; B.H. Groene, _Tracing Your Civil War Ancestor_ ISBN 0-345-36192-X > Andrew - enlisted April 22, 1861, 5th Regiment Co G, Whoa-- that just sunk in-- is that 5th Reg. NY Inf? [you should try to distinguish, because there was a 5th Cav & a 5th Art, too-- no relationship] The Zouaves? Check out http://www.zouave.org You couldn't ask for a better documented group. They have an Andrew Williams listed on their roster-- but no Abram-- What Regiment was Abram in? jim