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Well the fact is that "SOME" Military Discharge Papers are filed at some County Clerk's Offices, "IF" the veteran filed them as suggested at discharge. I have used them for finding information on modern genealogical research quests at several different county clerks offices in NYS. They are available for public access. The trick is to locate the proper county that they are filed in. It is usually found in the county that the veteran's family lived in at the time of his/her discharge. The form to ask for I believe is DD-214 and bear in mind that the paper might not have been filed for many, many years until the vet got around to it. There was no law that required it, but it was recommended to file it there. A copy of the discharge paper was also sent to the Adjutant General's Office in the veteran's home state. I have not attempted to request any from such an office but I suspect that there is a standard procedure to request a copy. Perhaps someone else may be able to shed some light on this subject. Dick Hillenbrand Syracuse, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Welch" <garywelch@alum.rit.edu> To: <NY-Military-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 6:44 PM Subject: RE: DISCHARGE PAPERS > The county clerks wouldn't have discharge papers. You didn't say when your > uncle was in the military. A large percentage of the WWI and WWII records > were destroyed in a fire at the records center but part of the information > can be reconstructed from other records. See the National Archives and > Records Administration site: > > http://www.nara.gov/research/ordering/milordr.html > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Mahoney [mailto:tovert@webtv.net] > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 10:27 AM > To: NY-Military-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: DISCHARGE PAPERS > > > Hi I am > trying to get my uncles discharge papers . I understand i may be > able to get them from the county clerks office . Can you tell > me what information i would need to get them . THANK > YOU > > ROBERT MAHONEY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ............................................................................ > ............................................................................ > ................................................. > > > > > > > > > > > > ............................................................................ > ............................................................................ > ................................................ > > > .................................................................. > > > > > ==== NY-Military Mailing List ==== > Look-ups, Military Histories, Regimental Histories and Rosters > Links, Images, and Information on New York State Military History > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyontari/military.htm >

The county clerks wouldn't have discharge papers. You didn't say when your uncle was in the military. A large percentage of the WWI and WWII records were destroyed in a fire at the records center but part of the information can be reconstructed from other records. See the National Archives and Records Administration site: http://www.nara.gov/research/ordering/milordr.html -----Original Message----- From: Robert Mahoney [mailto:tovert@webtv.net] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 10:27 AM To: NY-Military-L@rootsweb.com Subject: DISCHARGE PAPERS Hi I am trying to get my uncles discharge papers . I understand i may be able to get them from the county clerks office . Can you tell me what information i would need to get them . THANK YOU ROBERT MAHONEY ............................................................................ ............................................................................ ................................................. ............................................................................ ............................................................................ ................................................ ..................................................................

Check with your town clerk also. I live in a small town in Connecticut, where veterans are allowed certain tax waivers if they produce their discharge papers. These papers are all on file and accessible to anyone. Karen Flanders Eddy

Robert's dilemma is a common one and it will get worse as the World War II vets pass away. I urge all of you who have family members that served in the Army and/or Air Force during World War II and thereafter before 1950 to copy all the military records that you can find. Make both paper and computer copies. Scan them into the computer even if they are hard to read. Copy them in JPEG format like you would a photo, do not compress and save them in JPEG format. You will be able to read them with the zoom feature and print them out at their original size. Deposit a copy with the local historical society. Future genealogists will praise your efforts. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Mahoney <tovert@webtv.net> To: <NY-Military-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 9:26 AM Subject: DISCHARGE PAPERS > Hi I am > trying to get my uncles discharge papers . I understand i may be > able to get them from the county clerks office . Can you tell > me what information i would need to get them . THANK > YOU > > ROBERT MAHONEY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ............................................................................ ............................................................................ ................................................. > > > > > > > > > > > ............................................................................ ............................................................................ ................................................ > > > .................................................................. > > > > > ==== NY-Military Mailing List ==== > New York in the Civil War Queries > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USWARS/ACWRoots/NY > >

Hi I am trying to get my uncles discharge papers . I understand i may be able to get them from the county clerks office . Can you tell me what information i would need to get them . THANK YOU ROBERT MAHONEY ......................................................................................................................................................................................................... ........................................................................................................................................................................................................ ..................................................................

Hi all, I was wondering if anyone could help me. I have my gg-grandfathers Civil war discharge paper. It states that Hugh McGuire was a private of 1st Lieut. J ( N )? Sunderland, Company G, 12th Regiment of " Veteran Reserve Corps Volunteers. Enlisted Sept. 3, 1862, ( 21 years old ), discharged, Feb. 15,1865. I've looked around and can't find anything on the 12th Regiment of "Veteran Reserve Corps Volunteers, Company G". Maybe someone knows something about this regiment. Thanks in advance, Carly

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Kevin: Here is the web site for the GAR Michigan. There are a bunch of links on the page. <A HREF="http://www.centuryinter.net/suvcw.mi/garmi2.html"> The Department of Michigan, Grand Army of the Republic Posts</A> http://www.centuryinter.net/suvcw.mi/garmi2.html Good luck Fred Jones Bremerton, Wa. Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/illinois.html Volunteer for Genie Angels http://www.geocities.com/heartland/flats/6878/index.html

Hello All, Does anyone know where I might be able to locate membership information for the G.A.R. (Grand Army of the Republic) in Michigan? My great-great-grandfather Nathaniel PERKINS and his brother George Washington PERKINS, served in the 10th New York Heavy Artillery, made up of men from Jefferson County, New York. After the war, they settled in Saginaw and Genesee Counties, respectively, and continued their affiliations with the G.A.R's "A.L. CARVER" post somewhere in Michigan. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Kevin O'Brien Laguna Hills, California Researching: Dorchester Perkins Shannon Van Schaick Warner Ivall Lowe Gauley

Hi: I am trying to find proof that my gr-grandfather inlisted in the Civil War in New York. Does NY-Military reach back to the Civil War? I found his name on a roster that did not give date-place-particulars and I am trying to piece it all together. His name was not always spelled the same, but the information I have is the name I am using. His birth name was Cleophas THERRIEN and he was from the area of Montreal, Canada. Thanks for any help you can give me. Shirley Therrien SMTher6917@aol.com

Hello: I am researching my great grand father Henry A McKane I have very little information on his past. According to his military record Henry was born in Brooklyn, N.Y. 1843. Enlisted in the US Navy 8 Aug 1863 discharged 7 Aug 1864. He enlisted in Boston Mass, served on the USS Queen. I have information on Henry from 1867 to date. Frank McKane Charlestown NH email annie@fmis.net

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Hello All, I am asking for any help anyone can give me regarding the dead-end I have hit regarding my WARNER roots in Genesee County, Michigan. The family I am seeking is that of WASHINGTON WARNER and his wife Mary (unknown maiden name). In the 1860 census, three of their children are shown: GEORGE (1847), LYDIA 1850) and EMORY BRADFORD WARNER ( my great-grandfather) (1852). All three were born in Flushing Township (Genesee County, MI). By 1880, Emory Warner has married CAROLINE PERKINS, whose family hailed from Jefferson County, New York and settled in Hemlock (Saginaw County), MI. Washington WARNER's occupation is listed as a shoemaker, a trade carried on by his sons. The 1860 census records also show that Washington and Mary were born in New York, but the 1880 census shows them being born in Pennsylvania. A book titled "The History of Genesee County" (MI) written around 1890, shows Washington Warner listed under "Overseers of the Poor 1848. There are Warner references in Eaton and Shiawassee Counties, MI. Family lore from my 95 year old cousin says The Warner family in Pennsylvania might have been from the Philadelphia or Pittsburgh areas, with a reference to "Pennsylvania Dutch," which surprised me because I have been told my Warner's emigrated from either England or Ireland. Yes, I'm confused too! Thank you for taking the time to read all of this. Any information will be 100% more than I have right now. Can I sound any more pitifully desperate? Sincerely, Kevin O'Brien Laguna Hills, California Researching: Dorchester Perkins Shannon Van Schaick Warner Ivall Lowe Gauley

unscribe NY-Military-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > NY-Military-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 138 > > Today's Topics: > #1 no new info abot me but i just got [WORKSP@aol.com] > #2 Re: [njandde] no new info abot me [WORKSP@aol.com] > #3 no more emails [WORKSP@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from NY-Military-D, send a message to > > NY-Military-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: no new info abot me but i just got off the phone with robert f > thomson > Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:57:25 EST > From: WORKSP@aol.com > To: NY-Military-L@rootsweb.com > > thank you all for help on look up > i dont know a whole lot more on my birth parents but;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; > i just spent the last hour on the phone > with my adopted moms nephew my (thru adoption) cousin > anyone ever heard of a food chain that sold sandwiches out of machines in ny > called > something like horn and hartard???????? > > thehe really didnt know anythin about my family but knew we were adopted and > said that my adop mom told them that she suspected my middle sister donna > born 1959 was possibly the birth child of my adopted father and we did > suspect that ourselves at one time. > he also said that my adopt dad got all of us children and my a mom had > nothing to do with it he apparently arrange it all. and the other 2 of us may > have the same mother or father which would be ellen 10/57 and me as donna > 1959 would be his natural . so at least now i am looking for more than one > birth family involved for us 3 as all along we thought they were the same > parents so i guess im further along then i was. > > im concinced now that because he was very influential that it was a private > adoption handled thru atorney and money exchanged. > they were living on 4th avenue in new york where he was a super of the > building when at least 1 or 2 of us possibly all 3 of us girls were born. > although my earliest memories are about 4-6 in brooklyn ny > > jo-ann > > jo-ann > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [njandde] no new info abot me but i just got off the phone with > robert f ... > Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:11:27 EST > From: WORKSP@aol.com > To: NY-Military-L@rootsweb.com > > hi so now i think my focus has to be on my adopted dads life his past holds > the key to it all. > as thomsons were very helpful and told as much as they knew. > ps the other 2 brothers and father are deceased. > > thanks agian > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: no more emails > Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:04:39 EST > From: WORKSP@aol.com > To: NY-Military-L@rootsweb.com > > Ive reieved alot of emails, > > some not so nice about my many emails lately so I have decided to stop > posting to the lists on a regular basis. > I guess some people dont know how to hit delete key. > To the wonderful people who have said kind things and helped me and > encouraged > me > god bless and thank you for your kind and loving concern. > > I am assuming the not so nice were not adopted. > i am on as many list as possible cause the more info out there the better > so if u want to keep following my story email me and i will put u on my > address and only let you guys know my updates > again thanks for the support to those who have > Jo-Ann

The food chain was called Horn and Hardart, their restaurants were called "Automats". They were quite famous in New York City. I never lived there but I did eat in one once in the 1960s. The Automats were all closed some time ago but I think Horn and Hardart still exists. An AltaVista advanced search on "horn NEAR hardart" (without the quotes) yielded 298 matches. -----Original Message----- From: WORKSP@aol.com [mailto:WORKSP@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 9:57 PM To: NY-Military-L@rootsweb.com Subject: no new info abot me but i just got off the phone with robert fthomson thank you all for help on look up i dont know a whole lot more on my birth parents but;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; i just spent the last hour on the phone with my adopted moms nephew my (thru adoption) cousin anyone ever heard of a food chain that sold sandwiches out of machines in ny called something like horn and hartard???????? thehe really didnt know anythin about my family but knew we were adopted and said that my adop mom told them that she suspected my middle sister donna born 1959 was possibly the birth child of my adopted father and we did suspect that ourselves at one time. he also said that my adopt dad got all of us children and my a mom had nothing to do with it he apparently arrange it all. and the other 2 of us may have the same mother or father which would be ellen 10/57 and me as donna 1959 would be his natural . so at least now i am looking for more than one birth family involved for us 3 as all along we thought they were the same parents so i guess im further along then i was. im concinced now that because he was very influential that it was a private adoption handled thru atorney and money exchanged. they were living on 4th avenue in new york where he was a super of the building when at least 1 or 2 of us possibly all 3 of us girls were born. although my earliest memories are about 4-6 in brooklyn ny jo-ann jo-ann ______________________________

Laura, YOUR letter was offensive to me. I feel that both the wording and the tone were uncalled for. Maureen Cassidy >In a message dated 11/14/99 2:07:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, >NY-Military-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > ><< some not so nice about my many emails lately so I have decided to stop > posting to the lists on a regular basis. > I guess some people dont know how to hit delete key. >> > > I didn' t write you, but know that it isn't that people don't know how to >use the delete key, but if they're like me, they are bombarded daily with >spam, some extremely offensive. It take a lot of time to edit through the >crap......so why add to it? > >Laura Ashlock > > >==== NY-Military Mailing List ==== >Visit the >New York Military Page http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyontari/military.htm >New York State Military History and Information >

----- Original Message ----- From: <LaLOLLIE@aol.com> To: <NY-Military-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 7:33 PM Subject: Re: NY-Military-D Digest V99 #138 > In a message dated 11/14/99 2:07:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, > NY-Military-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > << some not so nice about my many emails lately so I have decided to stop > posting to the lists on a regular basis. > I guess some people dont know how to hit delete key. >> > > I didn' t write you, but know that it isn't that people don't know how to > use the delete key, but if they're like me, they are bombarded daily with > spam, some extremely offensive. It take a lot of time to edit through the > crap......so why add to it? > > Laura Ashlock > > This kind of crap I don't need, the lady she replied to doesn't need it, and neither does the list. If you people want to put up with people like this have at it. The name of the list should be changed though...to Military War Zone. I am outa here! UNSUBSCRIBE. A totally disgusted subscriber. Norm

In a message dated 11/14/99 2:07:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, NY-Military-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << some not so nice about my many emails lately so I have decided to stop posting to the lists on a regular basis. I guess some people dont know how to hit delete key. >> I didn' t write you, but know that it isn't that people don't know how to use the delete key, but if they're like me, they are bombarded daily with spam, some extremely offensive. It take a lot of time to edit through the crap......so why add to it? Laura Ashlock