On 3/6/04 (2:34:02 PM MST), in a posting to the Nassau County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com, Magnus Olsson (greverod@home.se) asked, "Can anyone help me find relatives of Knut Freds children. They are third cousins to me, but 50-60 years older. Carl J.(Johan) Fred, born in 1922 acording to a note I found on Internet somewhere. In 1963 he lived in Hicksville, NY and I think he still do. He should be the oldest in the family but I'm not sure. Raymond Fred. Maybe born in 1932, unsure! Lived in Wantagh, NY in 1963. Jenny Augusta, born Fred. Unmarried in 1963, live in Roosevelt, NY by that time. Also, if possible, recors of their mother. Their father, Knut Fred, immigrated from Lyse in Sweden in the beginning of the 20th century." First, for Carl J.(Johan) Fred: for questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Hicksville Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Hicksville Public Library 169 Jerusalem Avenue Hicksville, NY 11801 Tel: 516/931-1417 Fax: 516/931-1417 eMail: hilmail@alis.nls.lib.ny.us http://www.nassaulibrary.org/hicksv/ The pertinent geography: Hicksville -- once the potato capital of LI -- is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the center-west part of the Town of Oyster Bay (along the Oyster Bay/North Hempstead/Hempstead town line), in the east-central part of Nassau County. There are 18 hamlets and 18 villages (municipal corporations) all or partly within the Town of Oyster Bay. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise, the Hamlet of Hicksville in the Town of Oyster Bay is bordered on the north by the Hamlets of Jericho and Syosset; on the east by the Hamlets of Plainview and Bethpage; on the south by the Hamlet of Levittown in the Town of Hempstead (the Oyster Bay/Hempstead town lone); and, on the west by the Hamlet of Salisbury in the Town of Hempstead and the Hamlet of New Cassel in the Town of North Hempstead (Oyster Bay/Hempstead/North Hempstead town line). And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Hamlet of Hicksville has a different border than does the "Hicksville, NY 11801" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Hicksville mailing address and not be in Hicksville and a place can be in Hicksville and have other than a Hicksville mailing address). .........................................acres ......Hamlet of Hicksville.......4,359 ......Hicksville, NY 11801.....4,233 Currently, there are places with a "Bethpage, NY 11714", "Jericho, NY 11753" and "Westbury, NY 11590" mailing address that are actually in the Hamlet of Hicksville. In the late 1940s, prior to the construction of Levittown (and the ensuing secession of the Hamlet of Levittown, mostly in the Town of Hempstead, but also partly in the Town of Oyster Bay) and the creation of the "Levittown, NY 11756" ZIP Code, that area was included in the "Hicksville, NY" postal zone. Second, for Raymond Fred: for questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Wantagh Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Wantagh Public Library 3285 Park Avenue Wantagh, NY 11793 Tel: 516/221-1200 Fax: 516/826-9357 eMail: wantaghpl@yahoo.com http://www.nassaulibrary.org/wantagh/ The pertinent geography: Wantagh is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the southeast section of the Town of Hempstead, in the southeastern part of Nassau County. There are 22 villages (municipal corporations) and 36 hamlets all or partly within the Town of Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise, the Hamlet of Wantagh in the Town of Hempstead is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of North Wantagh; on the east by the Hamlet of Seaford; on the south by the Atlantic Ocean; and, on the west by the Hamlets of Bellmore and North Bellmore. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Hamlet of Wantagh has a different border than does the "Wantagh, NY 11793" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Wantagh mailing address and not be in Wantagh). ......................................acres ......Hamlet of Wantagh......2,534 ......Wantagh, NY 11793....3,782* * Area does not include off-shore islands. About 1 out of every 3 places with a "Wantagh, NY" mailing address are not in the Hamlet of Wantagh. (These places that have a "Wantagh, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Wantagh are in the Hamlets of Seaford, Bellmore, North Bellmore, North Wantagh and Levittown.) Third, for Jenny Augusta: for questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Roosevelt Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Roosevelt Public Library 27 West Fulton Avenue Roosevelt, NY 11575 Tel: 516/378-0222 Fax: 516/378-1011 eMail: rpl@rooseveltpubliclibrary.org http://www.nassaulibrary.org/roosevelt/ The pertinent geography: Roosevelt is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the central section of the Town of Hempstead. In the south-central part of Nassau County. There are 22 villages (municipal corporations) and 36 hamlets all or partly within the Town of Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise, the Hamlet of Roosevelt in the Town of Hempstead is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Uniondale; on the east by the Hamlets of North Merrick and Merrick; on the south by the Village of Freeport; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Baldwin. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Hamlet of Roosevelt has a different border than does the "Roosevelt, NY 11575" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Roosevelt mailing address and not be in Roosevelt and a place can be in Roosevelt and have other than a Roosevelt mailing address). .........................................acres .....Hamlet of Roosevelt.......1,121 .....Roosevelt, NY 11575.....1,061 About 1 in 20 places that are actually in the Hamlet of Roosevelt have other than a "Roosevelt, NY" mailing address. Most of these places that are in the Hamlet of Roosevelt but do not have a "Roosevelt, NY" mailing address may have a "Freeport, NY 11520" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Hicksville in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County on pages 5 & 11 (map) and 12 (population estimate), the Hamlet of Wantagh in the Town of Hempstead, Nassau County on pages 5 & 8 (map) and 9 (population estimate) and the Hamlet of Roosevelt in the Town of Hempstead, Nassau County on pages 5 & 8 (map) and 9 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Happy Purim (begins Sunday, March 7 at sunset), Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.